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  • File : 1309386215.jpg-(38 KB, 468x551, meteorREX2603_468x551.jpg)
    38 KB Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:23 No.3306968  
    Which would be more disastrous for mankind.

    A meteor in the ocean or on hitting land?
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:28 No.3306991
    Water, since meteors are mostly ice, it'd freeze a bunch of water around it and change the climate/kill many animals.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:29 No.3306995
    >>3306991
    > it'd freeze a bunch of water around it and change the climate/kill many animals.

    >wtf am I reading
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:30 No.3306998
    >>3306991

    uhh what?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:30 No.3307002
    >>3306991

    I lol'd hard at this. 10/10
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:30 No.3307003
    >>3306995
    Meteors are extremely cold; Since they come from outer space, they're almost at 0 Kelvin. That + Water = Ice. Changes the currents, kills animals, etc.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:31 No.3307005
    >>3306991
    AHAHAHAHAHA, I'VE NEVER READ SOMETHING SO STUPID IN ALL MY LIFE

    CONGRATS, YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:31 No.3307009
    >>3306991
    >kill many animals
    >freeze water around it
    yep, half of my cerebrum just died
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:32 No.3307018
    >>3307005
    Who do you think you're talking to, bitch?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:32 No.3307020
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    >>3307003
    >almost 0K
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:33 No.3307024
    >>3307003

    Can't tell if trolling harder or actually believing this stupid bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:33 No.3307025
    >>3306991
    It's so pure.

    This is going in my copy-pasta file.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:33 No.3307027
    Water.
    Tripfag's telling bullshit, though.

    The real problem would be the quakes AND tsunamis plus the amount of water getting vaporized into the atmosphere and if you feel like it you could also add triggering underwater vulcanism.

    The main reason is actually that it would be somewhat of an isolated event if it hit a continent and not the ocean.
    >> Blackman 06/29/11(Wed)18:34 No.3307030
    >>3306991
    He makes a valid point.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:34 No.3307031
    >>3307020
    There's no friction in space you idiot, which doesn't allow the meteor to heat up, you fucking idiot. There are only three things in space: Light, gravity and dark energy.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:35 No.3307040
    >>3307030
    Understands what I'm saying and has a name. I WONDER

    The rest of you can go fuck yourselves.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:36 No.3307045
    everyone who takes Teacup's post seriously deserver 0/10 in sense oh humor

    OP it really depends on actuall size of the thing.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:36 No.3307047
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    >>3307031

    Please tell me moar, I am laughing so hard right now.

    captcha: entrolo now
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:36 No.3307050
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    >>3307031

    We are in space, are we not?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:36 No.3307052
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    >>3307031
    >all molecular motion stops
    >molecular motion
    >motion
    >photons
    >light
    >energy traveling in a vacuum
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:36 No.3307054
    >>3307027
    Another question.

    Are we prepared to an intercept a meteor should the need arise?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:37 No.3307055
    >>3307031

    No ones denying the fact the meteor will be cold man... it's just you think that its temperature will be the most important factor?
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:37 No.3307057
    >>3307047
    >>3307050
    >>3307052
    Alright, you just got me to open Paint and draw a picture explaining it.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:37 No.3307058
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    >>3307031
    >> H+ 06/29/11(Wed)18:38 No.3307062
    >>3307031

    Alright, You are obviously trolling, but I'ma level with you.

    The reason you see things coming into the earths atmosphere as streaks of light, is because as they hit the atmosphere moving at several KM/s, they heat up a fuckton from the friction of reentry.

    This is also what caused those Space Shuttles that blew up to blow up. They lost the pads that allowed them to dissipate this enormous heat gain.

    Anything this hits from orbit hits like an explosive fireball, or burns up in the atmosphere.

    Also, there is lots of shit in space. Mostly hydrogen and stray gasses, but in minute quantities.

    Also, micrometeorites.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:38 No.3307064
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    Somebody has to make a troll physics comic about this.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:39 No.3307069
    >METEOR
    there you go OP
    first of all look up what kind of shit are you asking
    >> H+ 06/29/11(Wed)18:39 No.3307070
    >>3307054

    There are people working on it.

    Neil, take it away.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-ReuLZ2quc
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:40 No.3307075
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    >this thread and it's contents
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:42 No.3307084
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    >this thread
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:44 No.3307095
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    >>3307057
    1/2
    Not reading any posts until I've uploaded it.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:45 No.3307101
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    >>3307095
    2/2
    Fucking summerfags.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:47 No.3307107
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    >>3307095

    >strong force
    >holding stars together
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:48 No.3307114
    >>3307062
    >The reason you see things coming into the earths atmosphere as streaks of light, is because as they hit the atmosphere moving at several KM/s, they heat up a fuckton from the friction of reentry.

    I'm not saying that isn't the case, but do you know how cold 0K is? Heating one up a bit is like heating an ice cube with the power of imagination.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:48 No.3307117
    >>3307095

    >strong force
    >holding stars together

    Nah mang, that's what's keeping it from collapsing in on itself
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:48 No.3307118
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    >>3307101

    >meteor
    >in space
    >> H+ 06/29/11(Wed)18:49 No.3307124
    >>3307114

    Do you know that nothing in nature is 0K? Especially anything within a few AU of a Star which gives off radiation which heats shit up?

    Do you think that sunlight only heats up Earth because we're big?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:49 No.3307125
    Thank you for this hilarious thread.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:49 No.3307126
    >>3307117
    *Facepalm* And what did I just say?

    >>3307118
    Meteorite, meteor, meorzone, they're all the same.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:51 No.3307131
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    >>3307101
    >>3307095
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:51 No.3307132
    >>3307124
    HOLY FUCK AM I TALKING TO ASSBURGERS

    >>3307003
    >they're almost at 0 Kelvin
    >almost at 0 Kelvin
    >almost (...) 0 Kelvin
    >almost
    >ALMOST
    >ALMOSTALMOSTALMOST
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)18:51 No.3307133
    >>3307095
    >>3307101
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdEZTdOlGss&feature=relmfu
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:52 No.3307141
    >>3307132
    Teacup you are the new queen/king of /sci/, show cock/tits
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:52 No.3307143
    >>3306968
    Meteor can't hit the land
    Meteor is a fucking tracer of piece of rock heating up by entering the atmosphere.

    this rock while outside of atmosphere (in space) is called Meteoroid.
    If it manages to not burn and fall apart during the atmosheric entrance it hit's the fucking ground and then you call it Meteorite.
    Meteorit you call a rock that is a LOT smaller than Asteroid or Planetoid.
    Meteorit can't do shit to Earth. We recieve two-three railcars worth of rocks every fucking day.
    You want to ask about Asteroids or Planetoids.
    If such thing hits the earth it will fuck it up in many ways. Expect shit like blast caused by A-bomb and i talk about BIG FUCKING A-BOMB. It hits the ocean: you get Tsunami high as Mt. Everest and shiload of boiled water changing climate how's that? it hits the Ground you get one continent less and global climate changes as well.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:53 No.3307144
    >>3307101
    Did you SERIOUSLY just pull a QED?

    Are you a MORON, by chance?

    Temperature is a PROPERTY OF MATTER

    NO MATTER == NO TEMPERATURE

    YOU CANNOT FUCKING MEASURE THE TEMPERATURE OF FUCKING SPACE

    YOU CAN, HOWEVER MEASURE THE TEMPERATURE OF OBJECTS/MATTER MOVING THROUGHOUT IT

    ENERGY RELEASED FROM STARS AND OTHER PLANETARY MASS CAUSES MOLECULAR VIBRATION

    THUS, OBJECTS WITHIN A VACUUM POSSESS SOME DEGREE OF 'TEMPERATURE' DEPENDING ON THE ENERGY THEY GAIN FROM OTHER OBJECTS RELEASING IT

    >>3307052
    You, are also a FUCKING IDIOT.

    PHOTONS DO NOT HAVE REST MASS, THEREFORE THEY DO NOT POSSESS ANY SENSE OF 'TEMPERATURE'.

    God damn this imageboard.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:53 No.3307145
    >>3307126

    >>Meteorite, meteor, meorzone, they're all the same.

    No. No they are not. Please leave the internet. Leave the internet immediately. Do not pass Go. No not collect £200
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:54 No.3307149
    >>3307124
    Do you think that sunlight only heats up Earth because we're big?

    Yes, this is actually true
    >> H+ 06/29/11(Wed)18:55 No.3307155
    >>3307132

    ...

    The temperature in space is close to "absolute zero" because any object there will radiate heat until it cools to that point. This is true.

    This only applies to objects not exposed to direct sunlight. In Earth orbit, the temperature of objects in sunlight can rise to 120°C/ 250°F. And anything approaching earth for a long period of time is going to heat up from sunlight.

    It is heating up and dropping off small particles that causes cometary tails which follow comets on their orbits around the sun.
    >> H+ 06/29/11(Wed)18:56 No.3307158
    >>3307149

    In terms of total heat yes, I meant in terms of basic thermodynamics. A metal plate in orbit in direct sunlight still heats up.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)18:57 No.3307165
    >>3307144


    no.

    temperature does not depend on matter (mass).


    T = dE/dS (change in energy with respect to change in entropy)

    it is usually written as 1/T = dS(E)/dE

    that is the definition of temperature.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:57 No.3307166
    >>3307133
    Watching.

    >>3307144
    >NO MATTER == NO TEMPERATURE

    WHICH IS WHAT I'M FUCKING SAYING, SPACE HAS NO MATTER, SO THE LITTLE BIT OF TEMPERATURE METEORS HAVE GO AWAY INTO SPACE AND THEY GET VERY COLD, CLOSE TO 0K

    >>3307145
    WELL, I'M SORRY FOR NOT KNOWING WHAT TERMINATION TO USE FOR THE SAME ROCK IN DIFFERENT PLACES
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)18:57 No.3307170
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    The 4-equidistant Time points can be considered as Time Square imprinted upon the circle of Earth. In a single rotation of the Earth sphere, each Time corner point rotates through the other 3-corner Time points, thus creating 16 corners, 96 hours and 4-simultaneous 24 hour Days within a single rotation of Earth – equated to a Higher Order of Life Time Cube.
    Meteors are at 0 kelvins therefore they freeze up the earth
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:00 No.3307181
    >>3307155
    Temperature doesn't magically float from the sun 83572572572905820689059028698106818 Km until it reaches a fucking meteor.

    >>3307170
    Obviously not me.
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:00 No.3307182
    >>3307155
    >The temperature in space is close to "absolute zero" because any object there will radiate heat until it cools to that point. This is true.
    Radiate heat into what? Space isn't your kitchen, if you heat up a teapot and the put it in a perfect vacuum, it will stay hot forever, as there isn't anywhere for it's heat to go. Thing radiate heat on earth because they transfer heat to the air around them, this does not exist in a vacuum, and thus, a hot object will stay hot.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:00 No.3307184
    >>3307166

    >>WELL, I'M SORRY FOR NOT KNOWING WHAT TERMINATION TO USE FOR THE SAME ROCK IN DIFFERENT PLACES
    >>WHAT TERMINATION TO USE FOR THE SAME ROCK IN DIFFERENT PLACES
    >>WHAT TERMINATION TO USE FOR THE SAME ROCK
    >>WHAT TERMINATION TO USE
    >>WHAT TERMINATION
    >>TERMINATION

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:01 No.3307188
    >>3307165
    >T = dE/dS (change in energy with respect to change in entropy)
    So, you're telling me that a vacuum, with not a SINGLE FUCKING FERMION possesses some form of 'temperature'? I must be on LSD.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:01 No.3307190
    >>3307181

    Actually temperature fleets with 299,792,458 m/s trough space
    >> H+ 06/29/11(Wed)19:02 No.3307194
    >>3307181

    Yes, it does. Only it's not called temperature, it's called "radiation". I would also accept "solar wind".

    Seriously. Why is sunlight warm? What do you think it does to something which isn't diffusing it in an atmosphere?
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:02 No.3307195
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    >>3307166
    >WELL, I'M SORRY FOR NOT KNOWING WHAT TERMINATION TO USE FOR THE SAME ROCK IN DIFFERENT PLACES
    >TERMINATION
    Do you mean, terminology?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:03 No.3307198
    Holy shit Teacup I thought you were just making fun from OP but now you're just too obvious
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:03 No.3307199
    >>3307182
    >hot forever
    What? Heat has to escape, it doesn't just stay in the teapot like it's surrounded by an invisible wall.

    >>3307184
    Notice how only the last few letters change?

    >>3307190
    Temperature is light now?
    whatthefuckamireading.jpg
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:03 No.3307200
    >>3307143

    >Meteorit you call a rock that is a LOT smaller than Asteroid or Planetoid.

    Technically this is incorrect. An asteroid is what becomes a meteorite.

    Meteorites don't have designated sizes.

    Technically, a minor planetoid would be a meteorite too, if it hit. Unless it was comparable in size to a real planet, then the result would be planetary collision and it's impossible to say "which hit the other".
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:04 No.3307201
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    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:04 No.3307202
    >>3307182
    Lol, nice try, fag
    >> M 06/29/11(Wed)19:04 No.3307205
    >>3307182
    Troll or stupid?

    In a spaceship, there is no way for heat to escape unless you build a massive radiator inside.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:04 No.3307206
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    summer /sci/ is best /sci/
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:05 No.3307207
    >>3307199

    I mean "temperature", you are the one not giving a fuck about using the correct nomenclature for stuff. Heats radiates off stuff as photons, thus lightspeed dude.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:05 No.3307209
    >>3307201

    nice dubs
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:05 No.3307212
    >>3307205
    >>3307202

    Never heard of a vacuum flask?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:06 No.3307214
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    >>3307205
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:06 No.3307215
    >>3307166
    >WHICH IS WHAT I'M FUCKING SAYING, SPACE HAS NO MATTER, SO THE LITTLE BIT OF TEMPERATURE METEORS HAVE GO AWAY INTO SPACE AND THEY GET VERY COLD, CLOSE TO 0K
    >SO THE LITTLE BIT OF TEMPERATURE METEORS HAVE GO AWAY INTO SPACE
    Where does it go away to? Recall that "heat" is simply a measure of how fast molecules are crashing together, what would cause them to slow down?

    On earth, things radiate heat because the molecules of the air around them are moving slower than a hot object, thus, when they make contact with a hot object, some of the heat is absorbed by them. This is why the air around a teapot is warm, and you don't have to touch the teapot to warm your hands.

    Space doesn't have air, however, or water, or any other matter for that matter (pun intended) save for the occasional floating molecule. Answer me, why would the molecules slow down?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:06 No.3307218
    >>3307199
    Stick with engineering, Teacup.
    Science/trolling is not a way for you.
    >> Eniggerma !cOHMuSHhkc 06/29/11(Wed)19:06 No.3307219
    This thread was over before it even began.
    >> H+ 06/29/11(Wed)19:07 No.3307222
    >>3307219

    Aww, but it's fun feeding trolls.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:07 No.3307223
    >>3307198
    Too obvious? I'm the first to admit to have trolled a bit in the past (chess thread a few days ago, for example), but holy fuck, this thread is painful to read.

    >>3307207
    Temperature is photons now. Cool story bro.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:07 No.3307224
    >>3307212

    they have mirror coated insides to prevent radiation skipping. They won't stay hot forever
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    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:09 No.3307232
    >>3307199
    >What? Heat has to escape, it doesn't just stay in the teapot like it's surrounded by an invisible wall.
    Where does it escape to? An invisible wall would cause the heat to dissipate, actually, since the vibrating molecules would go into the invisible wall, causing it to heat up.

    "Heat" isn't some magic ray, it's a measure of molecular vibration, and molecular vibration doesn't escape if there's nowhere for it to go.
    An object in motion tends to stay in motion, after all.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:09 No.3307233
    >>3307215
    They just brush off, I'm no thermodynamist.

    >>3307218
    I'm not a homosexual.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:09 No.3307235
    >>3307224

    No, but it's the theory of it. Just get a big enough vacuum and it will stay hot forever.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:09 No.3307236
    >>3307215
    it radiates EM waves which carry away energy because charged particles constantly change their velocity
    >> H+ 06/29/11(Wed)19:09 No.3307237
    I'm just going to leave this here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_radiation#Intensity_in_the_Solar_System
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:10 No.3307245
    This thread has made me LOL so much.
    >> H+ 06/29/11(Wed)19:10 No.3307246
    >>3307236
    >>3307232
    >>3307233

    Also this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiant_heat
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:10 No.3307248
    >>3307233
    Sure, Mr. Egbert.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:10 No.3307249
    >>3307233
    you're no genius either.

    Actually you're stupid
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:11 No.3307252
    >>3307232
    >An object in motion tends to stay in motion, after all.
    unless Teacup tells him to do otherwise

    after all, his Meteors are flying in fucking space instead of forming on the atmosphere like normal human would expect
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:11 No.3307254
    >>3307232
    I never liked that law of motion. After all, the energy that someone uses to push something ends after some time. Everything tends to stop.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:11 No.3307258
    Archive, because Summer /sci/?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:12 No.3307263
    >>3307249
    She screwed up on the other thread and gave away that it's EK's sockpuppet.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:12 No.3307265
    >>3307254
    Newton was a drunk too.

    >>3307252
    Meteors come from outer space, you idiot...
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:13 No.3307268
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    >>3307219
    Cool simulation of impact video to get the thread going in the right direction again?

    I'm sure many of you already know it, is the video accurate?
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:13 No.3307269
    >>3307233
    >I'm no thermodynamist.
    That much is hilariously obvious.

    >>3307254
    >disagreeing with newtonian laws of motion.
    8.5/10, good sir, it took me until this to realize you are a troll, or at least started trolling after having yourself thoroughly disproven.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:14 No.3307275
    >>3307265
    METEOR IS NOT A FLYING ROCK/ICE/SHIT YOU FUCKING RETARD
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:14 No.3307276
    >>3307254
    Derp, I never liked newton's first law either, gave me the creeps. Are there ghosts moving it?
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:14 No.3307277
    >>3307248
    What?

    >>3307249
    You don't even know my IQ, bitch.

    >>3307263
    I AM NOT EK.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:15 No.3307278
    >>3307268
    If you can't see the video, it's because I never posted it!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMW9BOELTFc
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:15 No.3307282
    >>3307277
    Why so upset, EK?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:16 No.3307284
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    >>3307277
    HERRPRRPRPRPRPPP
    IMMA JUSTA GONNA TROOLLL YALLLL
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:16 No.3307285
    >>3307269
    I don't know what a person who studies thermodynamics is called, and I couldn't find it on wikipedia either. Also, I never said that I disagreed with the laws of motion, just that everything tends to stop, which is true.

    >>3307275
    METEORS ARE GIANT BALLS OF ICE AND ICEY ROCK FROM OUTER SPACE, YOU IDIOT.

    >>3307276
    Read what I wrote in reply to Hopeless.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:17 No.3307287
    >>3307277
    MAH QUEEN!!!
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:17 No.3307289
    >>3307285
    >outer space
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:18 No.3307292
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    he has a point, so far no one presented arguments why would't oceans freeze
    its like real science
    -here is valid point
    -lol u so stupid
    -what a fagg
    -hahaha
    ->summer scientists
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:18 No.3307293
    I AM NOT EK. IN THE THREAD THAT I WAS ACCUSED OF BEING HER, WE POSTED WITH A DIFFERENCE OF 1 POST NUMBER, IN THE SAME MINUTE. I CAN NOT BE HER. ASK HER. ASK HARRIET.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:18 No.3307294
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    >>3307292
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:20 No.3307301
    >>3307232
    SURE IS FUCKING CLASSICAL PERSPECTIVE IN HERE
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:20 No.3307307
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    >>3307294
    no u
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:21 No.3307308
    >>3307292
    I'm no physicsfag, so I don't know shit, but... heat from the impact?
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:21 No.3307310
    >>3307289
    Yes, outer space. Google it.

    >>3307292
    I never said the oceans would freeze. Only a part of it.
    >> Blackman 06/29/11(Wed)19:22 No.3307315
    Toasting in an epic bread.
    Someone archive this
    >> Eniggerma !cOHMuSHhkc 06/29/11(Wed)19:22 No.3307316
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    I'm just sayin
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:23 No.3307320
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    >>3307285
    "I never said that I disagreed with the laws of motion, just that everything tends to stop, which is true."

    Protip: If you want to put forth two opposing views in one post, put them in different sentences.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:23 No.3307322
    >>3307316
    I agree 100%. The thing is, I backed up my claims.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:24 No.3307326
    >>3307322
    no.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:25 No.3307334
    10/10. Well done Teacup.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:25 No.3307335
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    >>3307292
    >Valid point
    ok
    -let's say the ICE ball of the size of NYC enters the atmosphere
    -even if it's fucking ICE ball it will start to heat up because of motherfucking friction
    -when it lands be it water or ground it will give away all it's fucking KINETIC ENERGY
    -that means LOTS OF HEAT

    that said it's can't fucking freeze water, it can't freeze anything. IT WILL RIP AND TEAR WITH FIRE AND FLAMES LIKE A MOTHERFUCKING SPAWN OF INFERNO
    >> Eniggerma !cOHMuSHhkc 06/29/11(Wed)19:25 No.3307336
    >>3307322
    Not really, you spouted your opinion without citing any kind of a source. If you'd like to give me a source for your claims go ahead, otherwise stop posting.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:26 No.3307342
    This is my first time on /sci/
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:26 No.3307346
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    Reading through this thread gave a a lobotomy
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:27 No.3307349
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    >>3307310
    Freeze the ocean,
    You sir, are an excellent troll.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:28 No.3307353
    >>3307320
    Thinks tend to stop. You can't kick a ball and except for it to go on forever and ever.

    >>3307326
    >>3307336
    Go to your freezers.
    Get a cube of ice.
    Pour a bit of water on it.
    Watch as the water becomes ice.
    !?!?!?!?!?
    MAGIC

    >>3307335
    Ball of ice AND rock, at almost 0K. The heat you'd need to get it to stop being cold would be so much that you probably can't even start to begin imagining it.
    >> Eniggerma !cOHMuSHhkc 06/29/11(Wed)19:29 No.3307359
    >>3307353
    I'm not asking for an example, i'm asking you to cite a source, so cite a fucking source.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:29 No.3307360
    >>3307349
    PART OF IT. Just read the experiment >>3307353
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:30 No.3307362
    >>3307353
    Ok, so just to clarify...
    You do understand that things tend to stop because of friction, and that in a frictionless system, things tend to not stop ever?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:30 No.3307365
    >>3307353
    and the kinetic energy part being totally overlooked

    moron
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:32 No.3307371
    >>3307335
    you fucking retard there can't be fire from water, it will just evaporate
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:32 No.3307374
    >>3307199

    yes temperature is the average kinetic energy derp.
    So if light carries energy and shit. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IS GONNA HAPPEN YOU RETARD
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:32 No.3307376
    >>3307359
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_transfer

    >>3307362
    >fritionless system
    Like SPACE? In which things STOP?

    >>3307365
    No it is not. There just isn't enough heat coming from the kinetic energy in the meteor to counter how cold it is.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:33 No.3307379
    >>3307353
    >Things tend to stop
    >tend to stop
    >atmospheric air
    >elastic energy transfer
    no
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:34 No.3307385
    >>3307374
    What?

    >>3307379
    sorce or i dont beliv u lol
    >> Eniggerma !cOHMuSHhkc 06/29/11(Wed)19:34 No.3307388
    >>3307376
    Shitty source, lends no credence to you claim that an asteroid would freeze oceans. You're gonna have to do better.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:35 No.3307389
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    >>3307360
    I totally agree with you.
    I think you should write a grant to the US government to convince them to attach rockets to a meteor and ram it into earth to stop global warming.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:35 No.3307390
    >>3307353
    >Go to your freezers.
    >Get a cube of ice.
    >Pour a bit of water on it.
    >Watch as the water becomes ice.
    >!?!?!?!?!?
    >MAGIC

    How the fuck does that prove anything? The kinetic energy from the water was transferred to the freezer's air. Your point?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:35 No.3307391
    >>3307385
    teacup confirmed for 9 year old
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:36 No.3307393
    Why has not a single person in this thread not broken out the equations?

    It's like you want to be trolled.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:36 No.3307395
    >>3307371
    >>3307371
    >drop something big like New York from space
    >there won't be fire

    no sunny there will be fucking thermonuclear rection
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:36 No.3307396
    >>3307385
    >sorce or i dont beliv u lol
    YOU NEED A SOURCE FOR THAT?

    HOLY FUCKING SHIT I THINK I LEARNED THAT IN FUCKING MIDDLE SCHOOL CHEMISTRY WHEN THEORETICAL PHYSICS WASN'T EVEN A THOUGHT AND TESLA WAS STILL ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:37 No.3307400
    >>3307114
    from wikipedia (inb4 wikepedia isn't a valid source)

    "The Space Shuttle thermal protection system (TPS) is the barrier that protects the Space Shuttle Orbiter during the searing 1,650 °C (3,000 °F) heat of atmospheric reentry. A secondary goal is to protect from the heat and cold of space while on orbit.[1]"

    1650 C, that's about 1900K. To put that in perspective the earth's average temperature is around 300k. a space object entering the atmosphere, even if it starts out at near 0K is still going to heat up a hellofalot.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:37 No.3307401
    >>3307353
    1ST LAW OF MOTION FUCKING KILL YOURSELF
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:37 No.3307404
    >>3307393
    i like seeing teacup trying to prove his 9 year old theory
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:37 No.3307408
    ITT: Teacup getting buttraped
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:37 No.3307409
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    >>3307395
    >>drop something big like New York from space
    >>there won't be fire
    >no sunny there will be fucking thermonuclear rection

    What the fuck am I reading...?
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:38 No.3307410
    >>3307285
    >just that everything tends to stop, which is true.
    It's really not, you silly troll.
    >>3307292
    >so far no one presented arguments why would't oceans freeze
    Read the thread, and go to that video I posted.
    Any object moving at cometary speeds is in no danger of making anything around it colder. >>3307353
    >You can't kick a ball and except for it to go on forever and ever.
    Quick, without googling it, recite the first law, in it's entirety.
    Then, google it, and read the bit at the end of it that you obviously missed.

    Long story short, yes, the ball would go on forever, if there weren't any wind resistance or gravity acting on it.
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:39 No.3307416
    >>3307353
    >Ball of ice AND rock, at almost 0K. The heat you'd need to get it to stop being cold would be so much that you probably can't even start to begin imagining it.
    You've been disproven by basically everyone in this entire thread. Give it up mate.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:39 No.3307417
    >>3307388
    It's not my fault that you don't like my source, go find one that suits you.

    >>3307389
    Not what I said.

    >>3307390
    Don't put the water in the freezer, put it on some ice, outside the freeze. When it comes in contact, it'll freeze, because it'll transfer some heat to the ice but not enough to melt it.

    >>3307395
    From ice.

    >>3307393
    I don't see your equations anywhere.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:39 No.3307418
    teacup just say,
    lol i troll u.
    and try and save any bit of dignity that you have.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:39 No.3307419
    >>3307409
    Energy
    now go back to watch Jersey Shore or some other productivel stuff
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:40 No.3307427
    Can we make teacup the new EK?
    I don't think EK would argue with Newton...
    >> Eniggerma !cOHMuSHhkc 06/29/11(Wed)19:40 No.3307428
    >>3307417
    That isn't how science works buddy, it's not a matter liking or disliking, it's about facts. Now back up your claims.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:40 No.3307429
    Hey i just remembered somthing.
    Isnt it COMETS that are made of ice.
    And that meteors are made of rocks and shit?
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:41 No.3307433
    >>3307427
    They're already the same person.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:41 No.3307435
    Why is /sci/ classical?
    Please, I'd love to know.
    Newton's first law, in modern science, applies to only objects in a vacuum with no influential fundamental force, which, is IMPOSSIBLE. Resistance will always exist.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:42 No.3307437
    >>3307429
    Oh forgot about the metals too.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:44 No.3307446
    >>3307410
    its not moving, its already hit ocean and stopped, impact evaporated some external ice and now temperature rapidly dropping due to fuckhuge ammounts of very cold inner ice
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:44 No.3307447
    Let's just put this to bed once and for all:
    >Which would be more disastrous for mankind.
    >A meteor in the ocean or on hitting land?

    >Meteor: A small body of matter from outer space that enters the earth's atmosphere, becoming incandescent as a result of friction and appearing as a streak of light

    >incandescent: Emitting light as a result of being heated.

    By definition, meteors aren't cold.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:44 No.3307448
    >>3307396
    notgettingit.jpg

    >>3307400
    >1900K
    Not even going to read the rest, go back to your bridge, troll.

    >>3307401
    I KNOW THE 1ST LAW OF MOTION, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT ONLY EXISTS IN THEORY.

    >>3307404
    >>3307408
    Shut up

    >>3307410
    I don't know the laws of motion by heart, what am I, encyclopedia britannica?

    >>3307416
    No I haven't.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:44 No.3307449
    >>3307429
    no meteors are made of magic
    meteoroids can be made of whateverfuck is flying in space by now
    meteorites too
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:45 No.3307452
    >>3307448
    >I don't know the laws of motion by heart
    I do, and I reckon dozens of other /sci/ducks do also. There's only 3 of them
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:46 No.3307453
    >>3307418
    I AM NOT TROLLING ANYONE.

    >>3307427
    >>3307433
    I AM NOT EK, LISTEN YOU IDIOTS, GO READ WHAT I SAID, WE POSTED IN THE SAME THREAD ALMOST AT THE SAME TIME, I TROLLED HER IN CHESS A BIT, WE HAVE OPPOSING VIEWS SOMETIMES, I CAN NOT IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM BE HER. NOT NOW, NOT NEVER, NOT IN A MILLION YEARS, DID YOU HEAR ME?! DID YOU?!!?!?!?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:46 No.3307454
    >>3307447
    >have no real arguments
    >you used wrong word hurr
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:46 No.3307456
    >>3307419
    >thermonuclear reaction
    thank you for making me want to kill myself even more
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:46 No.3307460
    >>3307446
    >impact evaporated some external ice

    oh shit i think I can start believe in God now
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:47 No.3307461
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    >>3307435
    this
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:47 No.3307463
    >>3307456
    fucking do it please PLEASE!!!!!
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:47 No.3307464
    >>3307429
    >>3307437
    Cold metals + ice + cold rocks.

    >>3307428
    I already did.

    >>3307452
    Doesn't mean I know them, bad memory.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:47 No.3307466
    >>3307418
    >implying he doesn't have all of the dignity in this thread
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:48 No.3307469
    >>3307463
    No, please educate me 'sunny'.
    IF YOU DROPPED 'BIG NEW YORK' FROM SPACE, WHAT WOULD CAUSE A THERMONUCLEAR REACTION?
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:48 No.3307471
    >>3307454
    OP's question pertained to meteors. I only posted the definition of meteor, as well as the definition of incandescent.

    I point you towards: >>3306991
    which is the post by this idiot tripfag that started it all, wherein aforementioned tripfag claimed that a meteor hitting the oceans would freeze the water, which I have just disproven as by definition, meteors are hot, not cold. That is a perfectly valid argument, fuck off.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:49 No.3307473
    >>3307453
    sup EK
    >> Eniggerma !cOHMuSHhkc 06/29/11(Wed)19:50 No.3307474
    >>3307464
    you did not, you posted a link to a Wikipedia article that had nothing to do with what you claimed. Now if you'd like a pull something out of a peer reviewed scientific journal about how meteors would freeze oceans please do, otherwise stop posting.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:50 No.3307475
    >>3307469
    Atoms going against attoms.

    >>3307471
    Meteors are cold. They're in space. Almost 0K.
    I cut all the hard words so you could understand.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:50 No.3307478
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    >>3306991
    >mfw
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:51 No.3307479
    >>3307471
    >fuck up and show your stupidity
    >its all tripfags fault!
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:52 No.3307480
    >>3307474
    How did you manage to actually write that sentence and not kill yourself shortly afterwards?
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:52 No.3307482
    >>3307464
    >Doesn't mean I know them, bad memory.
    Also, an idiot.

    Now please respond to my post wherein I disproved everything you are saying by opening a dictionary.

    Also, if you could cite a single example wherein any object survived reentry cold, that'd be nice.

    Also, please read this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atmospheric_entry

    You also have yet to respond to the youtube video I linked.
    >> Eniggerma !cOHMuSHhkc 06/29/11(Wed)19:52 No.3307483
    >>3307480
    There's more then one you know.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:53 No.3307484
    >>3307474
    I point you to
    >>3307480

    Also,
    >>3307473
    fuck you.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:53 No.3307485
    >>3307475
    put in the hard words faggot
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:54 No.3307488
    Equations? fine
    assume a decent, 1000 kg meteor
    ΔPE = PE_i - PE_f = 0 - (-Gmm/r) = GMm/r = 5.9742e24 * 1000 * 6.67e-11/ 6.378e6 = 6.24e10 Joules
    Aka, a shit ton of energy.

    If that energy were, say, in thermal form (for carbon):
    T = E/(k*(mols of C)) = GMm(molar mass of carbon)/(rmk) = GM(molar mass of carbon)/(rk) =

    5.9742e24 * 6.67e-11* (.012)/ (6.378e6* 6.155) = 1.21e5 K
    Yeah, thats pretty hot.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:54 No.3307490
    >>3307483
    More than one what?
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:55 No.3307491
    >>3307482
    What post?
    Space shuttles.
    Not going to read all that, could you sum it up?
    What video?

    >>3307478
    Interesting coincidence?
    >> Eniggerma !cOHMuSHhkc 06/29/11(Wed)19:55 No.3307492
    >>3307484
    That's a pretty shitty attempt to deflect everything I've said.
    >> Eniggerma !cOHMuSHhkc 06/29/11(Wed)19:55 No.3307495
    >>3307490
    Sentence you dumb cunt.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:55 No.3307496
    >>3307488
    Still, it loses all that heat.
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    >>3307488
    but that's wrong you fucking retard
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:56 No.3307499
    >>3307475
    You're repeating a sentence, but you're not responding to the point I made. A Meteor is by definition heated up to the point of incandescence, just like any object entering earth's atmosphere is. Please explain to me how anything could possibly enter earth's atmosphere and not be heated up, then you can go explain it to NASA, so they can take those heat shields off all their shit, because obviously you know better than they do.
    >> ButtMinster FullLatrine Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:56 No.3307500
    KØRKBØRD
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:58 No.3307506
    But teacup, what about solar winds?
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)19:58 No.3307508
    >>3307478
    Wait, this is from today... You fucking assholes.

    >>3307499
    The outer part is very hot, it loses all the heat to the water and proceeds to undo it by being very cold inside. And NASA could take all those shields off, as long as they fill their spaceships with liquid Nitrogen.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)19:59 No.3307509
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    hey guys
    i'm new here
    is this how science works?
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)19:59 No.3307514
    >>3307491
    >Space shuttles.
    Go to the link, oh wait
    >Not going to read all that, could you sum it up?
    Ok, tl;dr: Space Shuttles get hilariously hot, and are hilariously dumb.

    >what video?
    The one you said you were watching, about the enormous amounts of energy gained by any object entering earth's atmosphere. Especially a comet.

    Here, i'll link it again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdEZTdOlGss&feature=relmfu

    >>3307496
    >Still, it loses all that heat.
    By Magic?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:00 No.3307515
    >>3307496
    Troll, You just got raped in the ass by the cold hard dick of equations. It only transforms that KE to Thermal energy in the atmosphere/on impact. All that energy goes into the earth's system in the form of heat.

    Also, I, and everyone else on this board, refuse to believe that you are as ignorant as you appear, since no one can be that dumb.

    Nice trolling
    >> ButtMinster FullLatrine 06/29/11(Wed)20:00 No.3307516
    Ŧūb-Ŵÿrm
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:00 No.3307520
    >>3307469
    your mom

    you hit the anvil with sledgehammer from 2m pulled by force of adult man. hammer hits the metal and both heat up.
    you drop fucking continent on another continent from fucking space with force of continent flying at several tens of thousands miles per hour. What will happen? IT WILL FREEZE THE GAIA!!!!!
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:01 No.3307524
    Posting in epic thread. Teacup, you are hilarious. If you don't care that we're laughing AT you, then keep it up!
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)20:01 No.3307525
    >>3307508
    Tell me how big you think this magical cold meteor is.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:03 No.3307532
    >>3307525
    If it's the size of the moon, were gonna get stuck in an ice age
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)20:04 No.3307538
    >>3307514
    Space shuttles are irrelevant, and I can't watch a whole video. Sum it up, please?
    >by Magic?
    No, by science.

    >>3307515
    But the meteor is very cold, almost as cold as absolute nothing. No matter how much energy, you aren't going to heat it up.

    >>3307520
    Not what I said.

    >>3307524
    No one is laughing.

    >>3307525
    My hypothetical meteor is as big as a football field.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:05 No.3307541
    EVERYONE PARTICIPATING IN THIS THREAD PLEASE READ THIS AND ALL OF ITS CONTENTS THOROUGHLY:
    http://hyperion.cc.uregina.ca/~astro/Ice_Mets.pdf
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:05 No.3307542
    The meteor wouldn't be near 0k or even near the freezing point of water due to the radiant heat energy from the sun as well as the solar winds. In space, it's not the cold that kills you, but the change in pressure causing your insides to collapse.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)20:07 No.3307549
    >>3307542
    And the cold helps.
    >> Eniggerma !cOHMuSHhkc 06/29/11(Wed)20:07 No.3307550
    >>3307538
    This you teacup?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV6inv-BQDE
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:07 No.3307551
    >>3307538
    Why don't you hitch up the time cube to the asteroid and charge through space fighting Jupiter?
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)20:08 No.3307556
    >>3307538
    >Space shuttles are irrelevant, and I can't watch a whole video. Sum it up, please?
    Kent Hovind makes the exact same argument you make, and in the course of 5 minutes it proven wrong in every way it is possible to be proven wrong.

    BTW space shuttles are totally relevant, and you're the one that brought them up as examples of something that entered the atmosphere cold.

    Take 5 minutes and learn something.

    >But the meteor is very cold, almost as cold as absolute nothing. No matter how much energy, you aren't going to heat it up.
    >My hypothetical meteor is as big as a football field.
    From your first post:
    >it'd freeze a bunch of water around it and change the climate/kill many animals.

    >No one is laughing.
    I am, and every new post is a new reason to laugh.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:08 No.3307560
    >>3307538
    >My hypothetical meteor is as big as a football field.
    See:
    >When the initial velocity is 15 km/s, however, even a 1,000,000-kg (diameter ≈ 15-m) ice-meteoroid will only produce an ice meteorite of a few grams mass on the ground.
    >> Hopeless Necromantic 06/29/11(Wed)20:09 No.3307568
    One more thing:
    >>3307538
    >No matter how much energy, you aren't going to heat it up.
    Stupidest thing you've said yet. Go look up the definition of "Calorie" and get back to me.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)20:13 No.3307578
    >>3307551
    >>3307550
    >>3307556
    >>3307560
    >>3307568
    I see. Well, if everyone's mocking me, I might as well leave.
    By the way, you might want to try the ice cube + water thing and watch as you make science.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:14 No.3307587
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    >>3307578
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:19 No.3307596
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    it took 208 post to kill the beast
    let's have toast to celebrate our bitter victory
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:20 No.3307598
    >>3307578

    Teacup, I just did this, and it was amazing! The water froze. Maybe you have a point here.

    Interesting point though, the amount of water I put on the ice was much smaller than the cube itself. This is the opposite of a meteor in the ocean. The meteor would be much colder, though. Can you do the calculations of how much colder it would be and how much bigger it would be to see how much water it would freeze?

    Also the ocean is made of salt water, which has a lower freezing point.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:22 No.3307605
    >>3307596
    this
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:24 No.3307616
    >>3307598

    this
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)20:25 No.3307618
    I know I said I'd be gone, but back just for this:
    >>3307598
    Doesn't matter, put the ice cube in a glass full of water (room temperature) and let it be. The water will get colder. If it's already a bit cold, it'll probably freeze a bit.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:26 No.3307621
    Well seeing how I'm invincible it wouldn't affect me much. If you're nice to me I might just save you all aswell.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:26 No.3307623
    >>3307618

    The differences were non-trivial. I'd really like to see your math on this issue. The ocean is not already near freezing.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:27 No.3307625
    >>3307618
    definition of idiot
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)20:28 No.3307626
    >>3307623
    Can your freezer get to practically 0K? I thought not.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:30 No.3307633
    So I'm guessing Teacup got his science knowledge from Patriot Bible University?
    That would explain why he thinks comets and meteors work like freeze rays.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:30 No.3307634
    >>3307618
    the main problem is
    you are not putting the meteoroid there
    you are throving it at it at fucking Mach 45! that's the smallest known speed for meteoroids.
    can you even imagine that speed?
    The friction would send your "almost 0K" to hell
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:30 No.3307635
    I like how Teacup claims the same thing over and over, even after having been disproven several times. Also, the only source Teacup has provided so far that actually "confirms" his/her claims is the picture drawn by him/herself.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:30 No.3307636
    >>3307626

    Of course not. You're right, that is also non-trivial. You can't just assume that the differences will cancel out, and the oceans will still freeze, though. That's why I'm asking for some calculations on your part.

    Is that too much to ask?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:32 No.3307643
    >>3307618
    The meteor isn't nearly 0k, not even close.
    Go stand out in the sunlight, feel that warmth? Yea, i bet you do. An "Asteroid" feels that same warmth from the sun when the photons strike it. Since there's no matter for the asteroid to give the heat energy to, the asteroid heats up. Also when the asteroid becomes a meteor by entering the atmosphere, the pressure wave in the atmosphere causes the front-end of the meter to heat up.

    ITT: elementary physics.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:32 No.3307644
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    >>3307618
    !!!!!!!!
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)20:32 No.3307645
    >>3307634
    Well then, I have bad news for you. The Earth goes around the Sun extremely fast. How are we not on fire?

    >>3307636
    I'm not going to do math just to prove something that you can do with a freezer.
    >> ႼЋïŁႣƧტƿḩЄƦṥ !Scone2booQ 06/29/11(Wed)20:33 No.3307647
    >>3307626
    Can a meteor? Comets that get as close to the sun as the earth is start boiling off. No space object near the earth is going to be particularly cold.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:33 No.3307649
    >>3307634
    >friction
    >in a vacuum
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:34 No.3307651
    >>3307645
    >earth
    >friction
    >with vacuum

    I'm out
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:34 No.3307653
    >>3307645

    It is not the same as the freezer. This, I have proven. I am asking for your math to prove your assertion that the meteor would freeze the ocean.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:35 No.3307655
    >>3307651
    >>3307649
    hivemind
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:35 No.3307658
    >>3307649
    Atmosphere
    that shit that floats around you and severa miles above too
    it's made of shit and it causes friction

    good night
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:36 No.3307662
    >>3307655
    not really
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)20:36 No.3307663
    >>3307653
    I'm not a thermodynamist. Just put water on a ice cube.

    >>3307647
    Meteors come from far away, not from the Sun.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:36 No.3307665
    >>3307645

    May I refer you to
    >>3307488
    Where all your claims are refuted?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:37 No.3307670
    >>3307645

    7/10

    You're doing well, but then again you did pick one of the easiest boards to troll (/adv/ is the easiest).
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)20:37 No.3307672
    >>3307665
    Which I refuted with >>3307496
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:38 No.3307679
    >>3307663
    >from far away
    are you... a fucking schizophrenic?
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)20:39 No.3307682
    >>3307670
    If I say that I'm trolling, will people stop saying that I am? Seeing as how when I say that I am not everyone goes up and says that I am.

    >>3307679
    I actually am, but that's besides the point.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:40 No.3307686
    >>3307672
    It only gets that heat when it passes through the atmosphere and hits the earth.

    Where does that heat go if not earth's system?
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)20:41 No.3307689
    >>3307686
    To the air, not to the water. Air disperses it.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:41 No.3307693
    >>3307663

    I did that. This only proves that a small amount of water places on a cube will freeze. It doesn't prove that the ocean, which is made of salt water, would freeze when a relatively much smaller and much colder falls in it. I mean smaller relative to the ocean, btw.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:42 No.3307695
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    >>3307682
    >I actually am, but that's besides the point.
    >I actually am
    >I actually am

    >but that's beside the point
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:43 No.3307700
    >>3307689
    how come the air gets all the heat, and the meteor gets none?

    Also, the meteor is still going pretty damn fast when it smacks the earth.
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)20:44 No.3307706
    >>3307693
    Try salt water then.

    >>3307695
    And what does my disorder have anything to do with the motherfucking thread?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:47 No.3307712
    >>3307695
    oh god, i fucking lol'd
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:49 No.3307722
    Fucking kinetic energy, how does that work?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdEZTdOlGss
    Watch this video, it's only five minutes long and it'll sure end this discussion faster than continuing to make an ass of yourself in this thread will.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:49 No.3307723
    >>3307706
    and what does the fucking ice cube in fucking glass of water have to do with the motherfucking thread?

    You are throwing frozen football field at earth at 15km per second
    and no its'not close to 0K it wasn't long before it entered earth's orbit.

    And air friction will heat it up just like it heats up space shuttle but you refused Shuttles because lol they aren't made of ice at almost 0K
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:51 No.3307731
    >Teacup
    >Schizophrenic
    >Pulling bullshit science out of his ass
    >No one can convince him of his idiocy
    >This thread is still going

    I think it's time we abandon this thread, /sci/entists.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:52 No.3307734
    The massive release of kinetic energy from an object traveling at that speed wouldn't freeze anything, it'd vaporize it.
    /thread
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:53 No.3307737
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    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:54 No.3307738
    >>3307731

    Nah, I'm having fun.

    >>3307706

    The salt water didn't freeze. Of course, the freezer isn't as cold as the meteor...

    Maths, please?
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:55 No.3307744
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    >244 posts and 39 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

    10/10, well done Teacup. You've trolled all of /sci/ beyond belief.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:56 No.3307746
    I think this thread, alone, proves that (even if Teacup != EK), EK is schizophrenic.

    good night, /sci/.
    >> ႼЋïŁႣƧტƿḩЄƦṥ !Scone2booQ 06/29/11(Wed)20:57 No.3307755
    >>3307663
    >Meteors come from far away, not from the Sun.
    Meteors, by definition, are near the earth, which is near the sun. They cannot get anywhere near the earth without getting hot due to solar radiation. This is why comets have tails when the get into the inner solar system.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:58 No.3307757
    >>3307755

    No, they have tails because of the friction in space. This is why the tail always trails behind the comet.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)20:59 No.3307762
    >>3307731
    >convince
    >prove wrong

    he was proven wrong 100 times
    but you can't convice brickwall that frozen truck at 90mph won't freeze it but run through it
    >> Teacup !obkpuSWh5M 06/29/11(Wed)21:01 No.3307770
    I'm honestly tired of arguing about this, being called a troll, being made fun of, etc. I'm out for today, see you all later.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:02 No.3307774
    >>3307770
    Before you go, watch this video and actually learn something about how energy works
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdEZTdOlGss
    At least get something useful out of this shitstorm by learning something.
    >> obkpuSWh5M Teacup 06/29/11(Wed)21:03 No.3307775
    But the part of the ocean where it lands will freeze
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:03 No.3307777
    Okay, Teacup. Lets have a little physics lesson, shall we?
    If you are a troll you're a very persistent one.

    Now, temperature is a property of matter, and measures how much the particles that make up this matter vibrate. Temperature can be conveyed by contact (convection, conduction) or by producing photons via the oscillation of electrons (radiant heat).

    A vacuum is devoid of mass, so it can't have a temperature. It's the ideal insulator, that's why people use vacuum flasks to keep drinks at a constant temperature.

    Now, if you have an object in space, far from the sun, it can't convect heat but it can radiate it. The planet's ability to radiate heat decreases as it gets colder, so eventually it hits an equilibrium with the incoming radiation from the sun.

    When comets fly by the sun, they start to melt and produce a large tail, turning their shape into a 'shooting star'.

    Anything approaching the Earth will have to travel within the same distance to the sun as Earth is; this exposes it to a hell of a lot of radiation. Since there's no night except on rotating planets, this object is gonna be blasted with every kind of radiation 24/7. It's not going to be 0k. It's not going to be fusion temperature either, but it will probably be hotter than most Earth conditions. The smaller the object, the faster it will change temperature.

    Finally, the amount of friction it has to take when it hits the atmosphere will turn it into a fireball. Meteors are heavy creatures, and orbital speeds are very high, so you've got a hell of a lot of momentum to dissipate as it comes down. This all gets turned into heat, which either goes to the air or remains in the rock.

    When it hits the ground though - it will still have a large amount of momentum, and it will have to dissipate *all at once*. That's a big dp/dt. On contact, depending on size, it could produce temperatures hot enough to melt rock.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:06 No.3307788
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    >>3307775
    >freeze
    you really should watch that video
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:09 No.3307799
    I sure hope Teacup was trolling. I really don't want to believe someone can be that, stupid, ignorant, sure they are right, AND unwilling to learn.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:10 No.3307801
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    Why is this the best shit on /sci/?
    >> THE GAME !g9SiImWDEs 06/29/11(Wed)21:10 No.3307802
    >>3307799
    > schizophrenia
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:13 No.3307811
    >>3307801
    because it show's what's happening all araund the world

    people are being so ignorant the you can't be scientinst to show them they are wrong.
    you need a fucking WHIP and beat the stupidity out of them
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:13 No.3307815
    >>3307788
    I think that was a poor impersonator, as Teacup said he was going offline.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:14 No.3307817
    >>3307811
    Ok after reading what kind of mistakes I made I think it's time to hit the bed.
    Sorry guys I hope I got the point across
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:15 No.3307825
    This thread reminds me of the end of Demolition Man.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:21 No.3307849
    here's a plus
    this thread jumped to 250 posts in TWO HOURS!
    this is a praiseworthy shit on /sci/
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:33 No.3307915
    I love the way that everyone jumped on teacup at the beginning, despite the fact he was clearly trolling.
    /sci/, your desire to look smart and belittle others completely overrides your common sense.
    You are so pathetic. Never change.
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:35 No.3307926
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    >>3307915
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)21:38 No.3307935
    >>3307915
    sup Teacup
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)22:11 No.3308084
    its just basic heat transfer
    the heat that the object gains during entering will travel to the center of the "0 K" meteorturd....
    once in earth's atmosphere it will be impossible to get lower than freezing...

    derp
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)22:27 No.3308133
    bump
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)22:29 No.3308138
    >>3308133
    There's nothing left to discuss. The impact of a meteor would incinerate/vaporize whatever it hit, not freeze it.
    /thread
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)23:09 No.3308332
    >>3308138

    We could answer the original question...
    >> Anonymous 06/29/11(Wed)23:18 No.3308389
    looks like a pizza roll to me



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