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  • File : 1303731002.jpg-(18 KB, 400x319, chernobyl3[1].jpg)
    18 KB Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:30 No.2947559  
    It's Chernobyl day guise!

    Let's discuss the reactor's future
    >How long will the sarcophagus last?
    >How deep in shit will we be when it collapses?
    >nuke-scale explosion in the event of water getting to the reactor

    OH THE EXCITEMENT!

    >30.000 people used to live here...
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:32 No.2947568
    Wait, that was TODAY?
    >> Josef !!nUf2NflSAyw 04/25/11(Mon)07:33 No.2947569
    Not yet. Timezones etc.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:33 No.2947571
    >>2947568


    No.

    It's tomorrow.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:39 No.2947602
    >>2947559
    1. A good 5-10 years if we're lucky
    2. about waist deep, a lot less for America, africa, ect.
    3. What is this?


    >Now it's a ghost town
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:39 No.2947603
    >>2947559
    >How long will the sarcophagus last?
    as long as they decide to maintain it

    >How deep in shit will we be when it collapses?
    not much, unless there is some graphite still there that gets exposed and starts burning, or literaly tons of highly radioactive material gets into the ground water

    >nuke-scale explosion in the event of water getting to the reactor
    source? the only way an explosion could occur when water gets into the reactor is if there is still fuel that wants to further oxidize (like what happened at Fukushima, when the UO2 gets exposed to H2O and oxidizes into UO3, releasing H2 gas in the process), and even if this was to happen it would be far from nuke size
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:45 No.2947629
    >nuclear plant
    >explosion

    This is what the general public honestly believes
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:49 No.2947647
    >>2947629
    >Wind, solar
    >reliable, isn't an eyesore

    >hydro, tidal
    >doesn't destroy ecosystems

    >coal, gas
    >people don't die mining coal or looking for oil/gas (more people die mining coal every week then nuclear power has killed in the last 100 years)
    >its safer living next to a coal plant then a nuclear one

    this is what the general population thinks
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:50 No.2947650
    >>2947629
    An explosion is possible, and a large one at that.
    In fact, before the sarcophagus, they sent miners down below the reactor, because there was an underground river there. If the fuel made it to the river, an explosion would ensure, and even though it may not look like a nuke, it would cover Europe, Asia, Africa, the Americas, Australia and all the oceans in highly radioactive.....dust? Yes, I think dust is the word...
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:50 No.2947654
    50,000 people not 30
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:54 No.2947667
    >>2947650
    I never heard of any river...
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:56 No.2947677
    >>2947650
    >>2947650
    >Australia
    an explosion in the Ukriane even if nuclear would hardly effect its neighbors let alone a continent on the other side of the world this is full retard.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)07:59 No.2947683
    >>2947677
    Are you a fucking retard? The radiation from the initial incident went all around the world. There's still places in western europe where the livestock have to get tested, and still get found with levels that make them unfit for human consumption
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:00 No.2947687
    >>2947667
    Same, never heard that there was an underground river

    But I have read about the radioactive lava that formed under the reactor, and the so called "Chernobylite" formations
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:01 No.2947692
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    >>2947650
    >he thinks there are currents that mix air from the northern and southern emispheres
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:02 No.2947693
    >>2947677
    >dust is sent kilometers up into the air
    >so light that it takes years for it all to come down
    >implying dust can't be blown all the way around the world
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:04 No.2947700
    >>2947692
    So, your implying that there is absolutely no contact between the air masses in the northern and southern hemisphere at all?

    Jesus Fucking Humphrey Christ /sci/ today is the stupidest I have ever seen
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:04 No.2947701
    >>2947693
    You get 1000x more dangerous radioactive dust from your local coal plant.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:07 No.2947706
    >>2947700
    The way air currents blow prevents almost all mixing between the two. You really are a moron, aren't you?
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:09 No.2947715
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    >>2947706
    asdfghjkl
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:10 No.2947718
    >>2947706
    please be a troll
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:11 No.2947720
    >>2947715
    So it's not really the south/north not mixing, it's the atlantic/pacific not mixing
    >> Lord Fap !h3WDZNERS6 04/25/11(Mon)08:11 No.2947722
    >>2947701
    no. Coal plants do not cause my backyard mushrooms to radiate like a uranium beacon.
    I would still be very careful today with eating wild mushrooms in Europe.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:12 No.2947724
    >>2947722

    I wish they'd glow, but sadly, they're just regular mushrooms.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:14 No.2947725
    >>2947722
    have you considered that is because you are a retard with no grasp of reality
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:14 No.2947726
    >>2947722
    And unless you're a Russian, neither did Chernobyl.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:15 No.2947730
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    >>2947715
    >global-air-currents.gif
    >picture of water currents
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:15 No.2947731
    http://www.wimp.com/encasechernobyl/

    animation of the new arch
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:16 No.2947733
    >>2947720
    What? It clearly shows the entire circulatory system is linked
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:17 No.2947738
    >>2947730
    >Looks at bottom right arrow "East Wind Drift"
    >failtroll.jpg
    >> Lord Fap !h3WDZNERS6 04/25/11(Mon)08:17 No.2947741
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC202067/

    The fuck is wrong with you idiots? This is fact.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:21 No.2947753
    >>2947738
    >>2947733
    Protip: the C. means current. Meaning water current. Meaning NOT AIR.

    There are only two arrows that designate wind drift at the bottom.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:21 No.2947756
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    >>2947738
    >http://oceancurrents.rsmas.miami.edu/southern/antarctic-coastal.html
    >The Antarctic Coastal Current, also known as the East Wind Drift Current, is the southernmost current in the world. This current is the counter-current of the largest ocean current in the world, Antarctic Circumpolar Current.
    >counter-current of the largest ocean current in the world
    >ocean current
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:26 No.2947763
    >>2947756
    >miami.edu
    >implying university people can be trusted

    0/10
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:29 No.2947769
    >>2947738
    >>2947730
    >>2947715
    haha pure comedy gold.
    Kids, this is what happens when your google-fu sucks donkey balls.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:33 No.2947774
    I thought it was tomorrow unless you're in New Zealand.

    I share my birthday with Chernobyl.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:34 No.2947778
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    >>2947769
    I don't see a lot of intermixing happening. It looks more like the pressure patterns keep to themselves.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:37 No.2947781
    >>2947741
    >Halflife of Cs-137 is ~30 years
    >Paper was published 18 years ago
    >Values exceeded safe threshold by a modest amount

    I'd say the "threat" has considerably abated.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:42 No.2947799
    >>2947722
    >Coal plants do not cause my backyard mushrooms to radiate like a uranium beacon.

    Neither do nuke plants. Probably because your glowing mushrooms are silly hyperbole.

    The radioactivity from fly ash however is not hyperbole, and is a very real problem. Also the toxicity, but the radioactivity stands testament to the danger of willful ignorance.
    >> Lord Fap !h3WDZNERS6 04/25/11(Mon)08:42 No.2947800
    >>2947781

    1) half-life means it radiates with half power after 30 years. 18 years is not 30 years

    2) mushrooms accumulate caesium. If anything, I'd be even more cautios today, cause they had 18 more years to accumulate.
    >> Lord Fap !h3WDZNERS6 04/25/11(Mon)08:44 No.2947803
    >>2947799
    It is not silly hyperbole, it's common knowledge. Also read the study I posted.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:45 No.2947804
    >>2947803
    >common knowledge
    >not silly hyperbole

    Reported for being retarded.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:45 No.2947805
    >>2947800
    >implying that radioactive decay of an aggregate substance is step-wise
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:46 No.2947806
    >>2947800
    Mushrooms don't keep growing, they die every year.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:47 No.2947813
    >>2947806
    Oh this is rich!
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:48 No.2947815
    >>2947806
    That's not quite true. Many mushrooms have a mycelium that lives in the soil for a long time. Still, it's an unproven assertion of his that they would continue to bio-accumulate Cs-137, especially when they're steadily losing that caesium to decay.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:50 No.2947821
    >>2947800
    >Also read the study I posted

    I don't see anything about glowing green (if anything the glow should be blue or purple), nor how that makes the vastly more globally prevalent coal ash any less dangerous.

    >they had 18 more years to accumulate

    More accurately, they had a few months between cultivation and death by eating. Also their dormant forms when not growing don't uptakee Cs.
    >> Lord Fap !h3WDZNERS6 04/25/11(Mon)08:51 No.2947824
    >>2947806
    that is not correct.
    The true body of mushrooms (mycelium) can live for several hundred years. Only the reproductive organ, that we commonly eat, will live a short period. Even this can - depending on species - live for several years.

    Granted, most edible mushrooms will appear only a short period.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:51 No.2947828
    >>2947815
    Furthermore, there are other processes that could work against it. Caesium salts are highly water-soluble, so it's likely that the caesium is steadily washed out of the soil and diluted in the water-table.
    >> Lord Fap !h3WDZNERS6 04/25/11(Mon)08:52 No.2947832
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    >>2947821
    I never said anything about glowing green in the first place? Cause that's laughable?
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)08:56 No.2947846
    >>2947832

    That's the thing about posting with a tripcode. We remember the laughable things you've said in other threads before fleeing them after having your arguments destroyed. A little paint of google search for new links won't make them work in subsequent threads. That sort of intellectual dishonesty is generally frowned upon.
    >> Lord Fap !h3WDZNERS6 04/25/11(Mon)09:00 No.2947861
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    >>2947846
    Shame's on you for not recognizing a joke.
    >> Anonymous 04/25/11(Mon)10:28 No.2948161
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    >>2947861

    shame on you for being a moron

    >rembecl increased
    So very, very close, Captcha



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