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    27 KB Scia 07/23/10(Fri)20:39 No.1470402  
    I believe that war and violence is the cancer of humanity. Becoming bigger and more powerful over time, and unless we find a cure it will be the end of us.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)20:41 No.1470419
    cancer is the cancer of humanity

    but humans are horrible to each other, I welcome our end regardless of how it comes
    >> Scia 07/23/10(Fri)20:44 No.1470433
    >>1470419
    Should we curse our children because of our mistakes?

    Humanity has great potential we should strive to make the future better. Not wish or be okay with the end of humanity because of the foolish mistakes of a immature species.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)20:45 No.1470437
    ...but the countries that have been involved in wars are the prosperous ones.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)20:46 No.1470455
    Fact 1: War is human nature

    Fact 2: Humans will always seek to gather resources and improve upon current technology

    Based on the above facts it can be concluded that we will continue to get better at killing each other. Hopefully we will find a way off this planet before we destroy it with our fighting.
    >> almostphysicist 07/23/10(Fri)20:49 No.1470465
    I believe that OP is a fag.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)20:51 No.1470476
    this is interesting because there hasn't been a bilateral war between two major economic powers in over sixty years.

    there is an interesting game theoretical argument that essentially says that more weapons (and greater surveillance) might actually increase security. this was the case during the cold war (obviously MADD, everyone knows about this, but another interesting note was that the US and USSR actually signed treaties to mutually increase detection and monitoring of weapons systems, further disincentivising attacks).

    i think, if humanity is wiped out, war will probably not be the cause of it.
    >> Scia 07/23/10(Fri)20:52 No.1470482
    >>1470455
    Once we are spacefaring there will be nigh unlimited resources available to us

    so wars will be less common once we have unlimited resources

    now to become spacefaring
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)20:53 No.1470490
    >>1470482

    moar resources = more war

    :(
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)20:54 No.1470493
    >I believe that "survival of the fittest" is the cancer of life.
    >Implying we didn't evolve because of competition and violence.
    >Implying all our technology was born out of quiet stagnation rather than violence and the threats of our environment and neigbors
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    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)20:55 No.1470501
    war is in our nature

    youre an idealistic hippy faggot

    blah blah more canned responses to pseudo-troll
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)20:56 No.1470505
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    >>1470402
    Thank you Agent Smith
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)20:57 No.1470511
    >>1470493
    Actually that was true. Einstine did not create the theory of reletivity to invade poland. He did it because his country was stable enough for him to do some thinking.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)20:57 No.1470512
    Why do we still keep nuclear weapons? We are saying there are arguments that are worth wiping out the entire world for.

    Its not just us that has them anymore, and no good will come out of using them for any purpose.
    >> Scia 07/23/10(Fri)20:57 No.1470513
    >>1470490
    :(
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)20:58 No.1470514
    >>1470482
    There is a finite number of resources no matter where you go. Once we colonize the solar system people will fight over planets and smaller orbiting bodies. Once out of the solar system people will fight over the resources within other stellar systems.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:02 No.1470528
    >>1470476
    U mad.

    Only dictators think that having control or survaliance over everything improves it. The security is not for all of us. It is for them and ONLY them.

    Police states are inefficiant, and destroy the free energy of a society to develop in its own way because theres a chance it wont help the dictators. Thus police states are alwayse outcompeted by free-er quicker developing societies.
    >> Scia 07/23/10(Fri)21:03 No.1470534
    >>1470501
    I hate hippies
    also how is war helpful
    its morons like you who say
    "Its human nature fuck it we can't do anything"
    intelligent humans can control their instincts and as humanity advances the intelligence of the average man will go up
    due to genetic engineering, nano tech, ect....
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:05 No.1470541
    >Becoming bigger and more powerful over time
    Untrue, wars are scaling down drastically, at least when the US is involved.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:08 No.1470551
    >>1470455 Fact 1: War is human nature

    Nope, fuck you and your warmongering buddies
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:10 No.1470561
    >>1470511
    You can't compare one man's achievements to human history. China advanced because of outside threats. As soon as they perceived no more threats they closed themselves off to the outside world and stagnated. Same with Japan. Europe became the inarguable ruler of the world because there weren't many geological borders between nations, creating a lot of war and competition. This created a culture of aggressive expansion which turned outward after the Peace of Westphalia, leading to colonialism.

    The Haber process was created during and for war. Jet engines, war. The space race was a glorified ICBM research program.

    Even now in a relative era of peace (no wars between major powers) there is only development only because there is economic competition. War has been replaced in this globalism world by the capitalism, which has a violence all its own.

    The same goes for biology and evolution, especially for punctuated equilibrium. Evolution stagnates where there are no mare pressures, when live has attuned itself to the environment. Only when the pressure is on due to an environmental change or the introduction of a new predator is life forced to evolve. It is a dichotomy of stagnation/equilibrium versus progress/violence.

    tl;dr - Necessity is the mother of invention.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:13 No.1470571
    >>1470528

    no, dipshit, you completely missed the point. i'm not talking about a police state (the US was certainly not this during the cold war). the idea stems from mutually assured destruction. the more that a rival country knows about your weapons arsenal, the more satellite systems they have, etc., the less likely YOU are to attack because it is all the more likely they will detect an attack and retaliate. this is what happened during the cold war, and this is why everyone is still alive.

    scientists are obsessed, i mean OBSESSED with humanity destroying itself. sagan every two minutes was warning us about killing ourselves with bombs ad such. and yet not only is the world getting more peaceful (there is FAR less war now than there was in previous centuries), but standards of living, life expectancy, and public health and safety have been rising for hundreds of years.

    calm down you fucks, everything is going to be alright.
    >> Saging because this is not topic related. Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:14 No.1470576
    >>1470534
    Coming from a deist who insults everyone else because one other poster calls him an idiot. You don't even put the time of creating full sentences for your posts.

    inb4 "I'm too good for grammar, idiot"
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:15 No.1470590
    >>1470561
    Excuse my bad grammar.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:28 No.1470657
    >>1470534
    Let me read a letter I recently received. 'Dear Dr. Breen. Why has the Combine seen fit to suppress our reproductive cycle? Sincerely, A Concerned Citizen.'

    Thank you for writing, Concerned. Of course your question touches on one of the basic biological impulses, with all its associated hopes and fears for the future of the species.

    I also detect some unspoken questions. Do our benefactors really know what's best for us? What gives them the right to make this kind of decision for mankind? Will they ever deactivate the suppression field and let us breed again?

    Allow me to address the anxieties underlying your concerns, rather than try to answer every possible question you might have left unvoiced.

    First, let us consider the fact that for the first time ever, as a species, immortality is in our reach.

    This simple fact has far-reaching implications. It requires radical rethinking and revision of our genetic imperatives.

    It also requires planning and forethought that run in direct opposition to our neural pre-sets.

    I find it helpful at times like these to remind myself that our true enemy is Instinct.

    Instinct was our mother when we were an infant species.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:29 No.1470661
    >>1470657
    Instinct coddled us and kept us safe in those hardscrabble years when we hardened our sticks and cooked our first meals above a meagre fire and started at the shadows that leapt upon the cavern's walls.

    But inseparable from Instinct is its dark twin, Superstition.

    Instinct is inextricably bound to unreasoning impulses, and today we clearly see its true nature. Instinct has just become aware of its irrelevance, and like a cornered beast, it will not go down without a bloody fight.

    Instinct would inflict a fatal injury on our species.

    Instinct creates its own oppressors, and bids us rise up against them.

    Instinct tells us that the unknown is a threat, rather than an opportunity.

    Instinct slyly and covertly compels us away from change and progress.

    Instinct, therefore, must be expunged.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:29 No.1470664
    >>1470661
    It must be fought tooth and nail, beginning with the basest of human urges: The urge to reproduce.

    We should thank our benefactors for giving us respite from this overpowering force.

    They have thrown a switch and exorcised our demons in a single stroke.

    They have given us the strength we never could have summoned to overcome this compulsion.

    They have given us purpose. They have turned our eyes toward the stars.

    Let me assure you that the suppressing field will be shut off on the day that we have mastered ourselves...the day we can prove we no longer need it.

    And that day of transformation, I have it on good authority, is close at hand.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:32 No.1470676
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    >>1470661
    >>1470664
    I don't think so.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:37 No.1470695
    >>1470676
    I'd like to take a moment to address you directly, Dr. Freeman.

    Yes. I'm talking to you.

    The so-called One Free Man. I have a question for you. How could you have thrown it all away? It staggers the mind.

    A man of science, with the ability to sway reactionary and fearful minds toward the truth

    choosing instead to embark on a path of ignorance and decay. Make no mistake, Dr. Freeman. This is not a scientific revolution you have sparked...this is death and finality.

    You have plunged humanity into freefall.

    Even if you offered your surrender now, I cannot guarantee that our benefactors would accept it.

    At the moment, I fear they have begun to look upon even me with suspicion. So much for serving as humanity's representative.

    Help me win back their trust, Dr. Freeman. Surrender while you still can.

    Help ensure that humanity's trust in you is not misguided

    Do what is right, Dr. Freeman.

    Serve mankind.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:41 No.1470722
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    >>1470695
    Everyone sees Breen as the bad guy, a selfish prick who is only looking out for himself. However everything he says in-game portrays him as a defender of humanity's continued survival.

    Pic unrelated. I just think it is cute. No homo.
    >> Scia 07/23/10(Fri)21:45 No.1470740
    >>1470576
    I just suck at grammar and spelling
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:47 No.1470751
    >>1470722
    I agree. While I think he is severely misguided (perhaps even mentally unhinged) he is doing what he thinks is best for the race as a whole -- putting the majority before the minority, putting the survival of the human race before the happiness of it's members.

    In sort, he is being completely rational.

    Personally, though, I think he was mentally unhinged by the invasion and his subsequent instatement as administrator of Earth. It's got to be a tough thing to go through; so, to help himself cope with it, he convinces himself that it's "for the greater good", for the good of humanity. And in a way, he's right.

    inb4 Half-Life coma theory
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:48 No.1470755
    >>1470740
    Anyone who made it out of high school can create a sentence and paragraph. It's not like we are asking you to create a five paragraph essay. At the very least just capitalize the first letter of every statement you make and throw in a period at the end.

    Sage because unrelated. (see, isn't that easy?)
    >> Scia 07/23/10(Fri)21:53 No.1470790
    >>1470755
    Why does it matter so much?
    You understand what im saying
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)21:59 No.1470842
    >>1470790
    well its alot hardr to no wat ur sayin if u tlk liek dis, whereas it is alot easier to understand someone who types coherently and spells words correctly, and also used punctuation correctly. Not to mention, it isn't exactly difficult to use punctuation and correct grammar unless you're an uneducated faggot.
    >> Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q 07/23/10(Fri)22:01 No.1470867
    Expansionism is the ideology of the cancer cell, but it is also the ideology of the orchid.

    Now stop the herpity derpity humanity is cancer bullshit.
    >> Scia 07/23/10(Fri)22:22 No.1470989
    >>1470842
    Just of easy to understand really
    for me anyway
    >> Scia 07/23/10(Fri)22:22 No.1470992
    >>1470867
    Humanity is not the cancer its war
    >> Colonel Coffee Mug !phJ7yIcs.Q 07/23/10(Fri)22:24 No.1470997
    >>1470992

    I wasn't really paying attention when I wrote that mind you.

    W/e.
    >> Anonymous 07/23/10(Fri)22:25 No.1471003
    >>1470867
    Expansionism is the ideology of ideologies



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