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George Zimmerman walks free. A jury decided that he is not guilty.

It's about fucking time.

>wannabe gangsta thug killed
>people think that the killer should be convicted
>toplel.png

Most people who sided with Trayvon over this whole thing used the appeal to pity fallacy and just spit out how nobody can kill a poor innocent negro child trying to live the American Dream.

Fuck, it's good to know that he got away free. Fuck Trayvon.

He seemed like a dick anyways.
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>Guy's an asshole, so he deserves to be killed
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>NotEvenBismuthHasThisManyEdges.png

Fuck, i agree with what you're saying, but being so dark-as-your-soul edgy about it is just pathetic.
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>>7747487

This. I agree with the verdict given the nature of the crime but dull your fucking edges.
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Reminder: If you thought Zimmerman was guilty during the first few weeks of this event-- you are complete and utter human trash. Kill yourself.
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1) A nigger got killed which is always good
2) A spic walks free which is never good
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How is Zimmerman not guilty again? I haven't been following it at all
Here's what I know
>Kid walks through gated neighborhood
>Paranoid dude call police on him
>Pursues the kid against Police orders
>Kills the kid
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/pol/ is hilarious. Entire front page is racist Zimmerman threads.
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Not that many people thought that he was going to be convicted of anything. This isn't surprising at all.

>>7747487
>>7747499
>>7747481

This. i'd expect to find such edgy faggotry being posted on /b/ by 15 year old avenged sevenfold listeners, but this shit of "lel, trayvon is a niggur lol im so kool and outspoken guize!!!' should be beneath /r9k/.
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I can only imagine what /pol/ looks like right now.
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>>7747536
defense proved that Zimmerman was having the shit beat out of him, then said some bullshit about how he probably thought he was going to die even though he wasn't.
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>>7747590
So it seems more like Martin was acting in self-defense, not Zimmerman.
But Stand-Your-Ground law I guess. Dunno, seems morally askew to me
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The entire thing was a three ring circus. The only reason GZ was arrested was because of what the media did to him and spineless law enforcement.
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>>7747617
Self-defense isn't beating up a cop with a gun, it's just stupidity.
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>>7747536
Just left out the part where Martin assaulted Zimmerman.
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/pol/, /r9k/ - ya did good
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>>7747645
I didn't keep up the case, I didn't know it was actually proven until like, now
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I know the word "edgy" gets thrown around here a lot.
If you want an example of an actually edgy post, OP is a prime example.
If the OP is a troll, he's very, very subtle.
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>>7747660
Guy had two black eyes, a broken nose and gashes on the back of his head. No shit he was assaulted.
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http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/justicefortrayvon

Enjoy the tears
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>>7747660
Nah hr got the fucking piss beaten out of him before he killed trayvon
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>>7747674
Dude I didn't keep up with the case, chill out dude

Regardless, I think generally killing anyone in any circumstance is a pretty bad deal
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>all the edges in the thread

Crackers are crazy mofos
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>>7747643
>zimmerman
>cop
lolwut
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>>7747679
I think I'm gonna jack off to this. The butthurt and idiocy is delicious
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>>7747701
But I'm black, Ricky boy.
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>>7747590
>>7747645
>>7747674

Was it actually established who started the fight, though? I thought they had pretty solid evidence that Zimmerman was losing the fight (i.e. the reports of Martin being on top, Zimmerman's injuries) but that doesn't mean he was assaulted by Trayvon as opposed to initiating the fight himself.

Personally I thought it was all about whether Zimmerman held responsibility for creating a situation in which someone got killed, even if that killing was ultimately sef-defense. It sounded like it was unclear and unprovable as to whether or not Zimmerman continued pursuing Trayvon after the caller told him not to, although it was pretty obvious he had a chip on his shoulder.

If Zimmerman was responsible for being dumbass and creating that dangerous situation, then it would depend on what conviction was appropriate. Maybe some form of manslaughter, but I don't know because I'm not a law expert. Not murder though.
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>>7747506
It doesn't matter if he's guilty or not, he still killed the guy.
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https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=%23RIPTrayvonMartin

>All those angry chimps
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>>7747730
Its actually legally irrelevant who started it, but it wouldn't make a lot of sense for Zimmerman, who called the cops, to throw the firdt punch
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>>7747730
Even if Zimmerman followed him (debatable), there's nothing wrong with that. Martin would have absolutely no problem outrunning the guy, so effectively both of them could potentially have got out of it if Zimmerman approached. In any case it doesn't matter who 'started' it, if he was having the shit beaten out of him Zimmerman had a right to shoot. It's also telling that aside from the gunshot Martin had hardly any injuries compared to Zimmerman.
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As a non-American who experienced a few stories of this guys murder/self defence issues, I'd like to bring up this whole "stand your ground" law.

My understanding is that in the USA, in particular states, you are not only legally immune from prosecution, but actively encouraged to murder or apprehend criminals if the situation arises. Can somebody shed some light on how this actually works?

And does the average American believe in this law, or is it a hangover from the Wild West?
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Why would Zimmerman need security?

He has already shown he can defend himself.
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>>7747771
Against one unarmed kid, and even then he almost lost that.
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>>7747771
How many self defense trials does someone get before the jury comes back with the wrong verdict?
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>>7747752

>but it wouldn't make a lot of sense for Zimmerman, who called the cops, to throw the firdt punch

Well, he made the comment about "assholes always getting away" on the phone, no? That implies a certain bias and lack of judgment on his part. Seems like it's be reasonable that might might have continued pursuing and thrown the first punch on seeing Trayvon, getting into an argument, trying to stop him, or whatever.

But yeah, I didn't know if that changed anything legally. It should, IMO, but from what it sounded like, it wasn't provable one way or the other, and what with the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing, you can't really do much to Zimmerman if it seems likely he shot in self-defense.
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>>7747767
It's good law, I wish it existed in my state.
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>>7747762
>absolutely no problem outrunning the guy

dem niggers and their legs
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>>7747767
In stand your ground, you have the right to protect your property. Now you can't go playing rambo and gunning down every criminal, but you can shoot instead of running away if you get attacked
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>>7747469 (OP)
I'm so happy for the white world of America.

Zimmerman just set a very, VERY heavy precedent. That the label 'hate crime' cannot and will not prevent a jury from making a logical judgement and upholding justice over emotions.

If the niggers riot? I can think of many white cops who will suddenly have very few reservations about beating the everloving fuck out of some monkeys.

I never thought I'd say this as a Nord, but God bless America.
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>>7747791
So let me get this straight.

I can place myself in unsafe situations, for example, going into a black infested area, provoke niggers into attacking me, then slay them with no judicial system backlash?

Is this legit?
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I guess you could say
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>>7747790
Why would he get into a fight if he wanted to stop him though? He'd just pull out his gun and tell him to stop.
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>>7747811
If they're the aggressors, sure.
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>>7747767
>Can somebody shed some light on how this actually works?
From my understanding, the Stand-Your-Ground Law states that if a person feels threatened, they are legally allow to assault the 'attacker' in self defense. This includes lethal force.

I think most people think it's pretty ridiculous, and the majority of states have the Duty To Retreat, which states that you should pretty much run away from any situation that is threatning, like if your house is being broken into. Now self-defense is allowed, but Stand-Your-Ground is a much looser definition- and allows for cases like Zimmerman's

>hangover from the Wild West
It's pretty much exactly that. The Frontiersman mindset is still pretty prevalent in conservative states. I think the whole thing's fucked up
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>>7747811
Yes. They have no legal right to attack you. You are legally allowed to go wherever you want and say what you want. Do you really think it should be illegal for some people to go to areas with high minority populations?
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>>7747836
Duty to retreat is the most retarded thing ever, if somebody breaks into my house I'm shooting their ass. Why the hell do you support criminals?
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i wonder how this case would have played out if the person that got killed was a young white female.
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We all know black people are harmless and they just buy whatever swag is sold on BET to look cool. Zimmerman is a fucking racist. He's so intimidated by a teenager that he shoots the kid?
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"Why'd he kill an innocent boy like that? He deserves to die! Trayvon was innocent and pure."
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To all of you assholes laughing about George Zimmerman being found not guilty: FUCK YOU!

This guy clearly murdered an innocent young African American child. Stop fucking worshiping this guy. Stop fucking saying he's the good guy. Do you not see what this inhumane fuck has done? He KILLED people because of someone else's race. If you didn't know already that's WRONG and RACIST. He deserves to rot in jail. Irrationally chasing after the young man and gunning him down obviously was not a solution. Self defense? Bullshit. He was only using that "he attacked me first" thing as an excuse to go out and kill black people. Also, you guys obviously don't realize that the whole "nigger" thing is an overall stereotype. Most black people do good and make sure their families are taken care of. I can't believe this guy even served in any sort of US authority at all. Claiming that Zimmerman was not guilty was a HORRIBLE move. So you little 13 year old assholes that are cheering him on need to face the cold hard facts. This guy was just another psychopath who was looking for an excuse to arrest/kill black people. I hope he roasts in the divine fire for eternity and Trayvon Martin will laugh down at his eternal, charred soul.

R.I.P. Trayvon Martin. This is NOT over. Zimmerman will face justice one day. Fucking guarantee.
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>>7747839
>>7747836
>>7747832

The only thing that makes sense to me is the Duty to Retreat rule that that guy mentioned. As I said, I'm non-American, and most of the American issues (i.e. blacks, creationists, Sarah Palin), are completely isolated to the USA, creating a weird bubble where everybody finds it impossible to think like an American.

But to me, I can't understand where the justice is in having a free shot at killing somebody.

"HURR DURR LAND OF THE FREE"
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>>7747869
see>>7747674
though I'm pretty sure you're trolling.
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>>7747876
0/10, you tried champ.
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who cares if hes innocent

theres no way in hell hes going to be able to live a normal life after this. the man was probably a deadbeat anyway
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>>7747839
This one is what gets me. You're putting yourself in a situation where you're going to have to kill somebody.

In a real country, the jury would tell you to fuck up and convict you for manslaughter.
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>>7747839

>Do you really think it should be illegal for some people to go to areas with high minority populations?

That's not really what he's saying. He's saying there's something a little fucked about the possibility of being able to essentially legally murder people by provoking them into attacking you or putting yourself into a situation where you can say you feared for your life.

The Zimmerman case is not a clear cut example since there's all this uncertainty about what actually happened, but I seem to remember reading about a more obviously problematic case where some dude was cheating on another man's wife, heard the husband was coming to his house, stood in his garage with the garage door open, and essentially waited for the husband to walk into his garage with a menacing attitude before shooting him dead and getting away with it.
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>>7747858
Good luck Batman
Duty To Retreat is supposed to stop the defendant from reacting in irrational or extreme ways.
It also allows lethal self-defense if it's necessary. Stand-Your-Ground encourages the unnecessary
Like you know American History X's opening? Duty To Retreat is supposed to stop stuff like that.
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>>7747876

Lel you upset. Why would you come to 4chan and be surprised at these comments?
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>>7747883
Sounds like you sympathize with criminals and like the idea of having everyone be defenseless against them. I hate a whole lot of shit about America but the ability to defend my self is not one of those things.
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>>7747916
I'm not him, but I'm also not American. I think these sorts of rules create more conflict.
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>>7747876
>African American
It's Black
Stop saying African American
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>>7747916
>I hate a whole lot of shit about America but the ability to defend my self is not one of those things.

That's because you're an American. Nobody else has issues with this concept. Being able to defend yourself (literally a globally accepted human right) is not the same as having a legal loophole for being able to kill a guy.
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>>7747836
Close but no cigar. You are legally allowed to meet force with equal force. If you feel you are in danger of death, serious bodily harm, or rape then sure you may use deadly force. But it would not be appropriate to shoot someone who is spitting on you and calling you a cracker. That being said, Zimmerman was probably right to shoot. He very well may have died if he had not. Ironically enough, by his own weapon.
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>>7747876
>I hope he roasts in the divine fire for eternity and Trayvon Martin will laugh down at his eternal, charred soul.
Hell isn't real so that won't happen. The only guys celebrating trayvons death are edgy middle schoolers anyway. They were both in the wrong.
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>>7747944
Statistics show you're more likely to be killed by your own weapon than somebody elses.

"HURR DURR GUNS SAVE LIVES"

LOL NO. No they don't.
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>>7747916
Who doesn't sympathize with criminals? Like honestly
Can you not New Criminology? Learn Rational Choice Theory dude
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Of course the verdict was not guilty, the prosecution had fuckall when it came to solid evidence and instead tried to tug at the jury's heartstrings with cheap theatrics.
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>>7747916
Hey guys, we should review our judicial system, I'm sure there's some injustices that-

HE LOVES CRIME. EVERYBODY, GET THIS GUY. HE LOVES CRIME AND CRIMINALS.
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He didn't have to get out of his car, he didn't have to follow Trayvon (911 told him not to), yet he does, and he gets into some shit, kills a kid, and people are celebrating him like he's a hero? He's just a fucking pussy, scared of some kid he followed when he didn't need to. He just shot and killed a kid. How the fuck is he a hero? Because the kid came at him? The kid could never have come at him if he were in his car. The kid tried to take his gun? Oh. It would be cool if the kid were here to testify, but he can't. This dude killed him when it wasn't necessary.

I'm a white male
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So /r9k/, the jury was all-female. Does your opinion of women improve?
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>>7747987
There's no proof Zimmerman followed him, a big part of the defense's case. Zimmerman claims he was approached.
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>>7747987
Fuck George Zimmerman. Fuck him, fuck his family, fuck America, fuck his beliefs, fuck his clothes, fuck his smug smile, fuck his car, fuck his dog, fuck his gun, fuck his defense lawyers, fuck everything.
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i cant blive this im so happy, seems like justice is truly blind.
are there any videos showing immys face when he heard the veredict?
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>>7748007
Man's following kid in his car, gets out of his car, OMG THE KID IS HERE, FREAKED OUT OVER ME FOLLOWING HIM?

Jury: lol nps, free kill imo.
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>>7747962
>Statistics show you're more likely to be killed by your own weapon than somebody elses.

That's only because anti-gun faggot use suicide stats to fuck with the numbers.
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>>7748032
Anon reveals the truth about suicide
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>>7748007
I don't understand, if the 911 call said "don't follow him" and you can hear him say "I'm gonna follow him" on the 911 call, how do you use that as a part of your case?
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>>7747987
>he didn't have to follow Trayvon (911 told him not to), yet he does

Except he doesn't and he stops following him as soon as 911 told him to stop.
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>>7748022
He wasn't following him in his car, the fuck are you talking about?
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>>7747536

Because following someone after a 911 operator recommends you don't isn't a fucking crime. Is tackling someone and bashing their head in an appropriate response to them walking in the same direction as you? And his "profiling" of little Traythug was pretty accurate. Kid was a criminal in training.
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>>7748046
Read the case. 911 asked if he was following him, Z says yeah, they tell him to stop, he says okay. That's all we know.
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>>7747905
>>7747904
But what you guys fail to realize is that there is freedom of speech. You can say whatever you want. There is no situation where words are bad enough to legally allow you to punch someone in the face
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I'm in tears.
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>>7748074
Have you ever been to a bar?

HURR DURR FREEDOM

Fucking Americans.
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>>7748105
>quilty
>mfw
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>>7748060
>Kid was a criminal in training
So that somehow makes him less of a human being?
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>>7748105
The man is right. If Zimmerman was black, he would be some kind of carpet.
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>>7748123
Quilts = carpets now.

Well done America.
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>>7748120

Are you sure you're reading the right post, genius? Cause I can't seem to find where I ever implied that.
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Trayvon was attacking Zimmerman.
He deserved to get shot.
Don't assault someone if you don't want them to retaliate.
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>>7748135
>not using your quilts as on bare vaginas

cum on step it up
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>be black
>don't even care
>tfw people think him being found quilty and sent to jail would chanqe anthinq
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>>7748156
>as

Remove as.
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>>7748142
You're >implying it pretty hard
>And his "profiling" of little Traythug was pretty accurate. Kid was a criminal in training.
This seems pretty irrelevant to the case as a whole,
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>>7748135
Damn right, faggot. Also, bikes are now cars and you can't do shit about it.
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>>7748167
Taking out the trash. Zimzam is a true American hero
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>>7748074

It seems disingenuous to try to frame this as a free speech issue. The problem isn't speech, it's knowingly creating or entering into a situation where you can then kill someone with no legal consequences.

I dunno, I feel like you're deliberately sidestepping the issue. I don't really know how else to phrase it. I guess either you think it's troubling, or you don't.

Either way, it's not like this really applies to the Zimmerman case, as there wasn't enough evidence to even establish whether Zimmerman was being enough of a dumbass to create a situation that led to Trayvon's death, or whether he had any intent to hurt anyone in the first place.
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>>7747961
no one is fucking celebrating trayvons death, they are celebrating that an innocent man against all odds walked free personally im happy that if someon attacks me i can defend myself with a weapon instead of having to choose between possible death and life in prison
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>>7748162
>not using your quilts on bare vagin

I don't understand
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>>7748151
>follow someone intending to harm them
>try to scream self defense when you shoot him dead


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