I be on dat sobriety nigg

Rarely do drugs these days (I'm only 20, in case that made me sound like I was old as shit.)

I drink and smoke weed on occasion and do MDMA rarely (like maybe annually.) Shot heroin semi-regularly up until about a month ago but quit because I wasn't really interested anymore. Shot morphine before I graduated to H.

I smoke the finest trees
I do it professionally

All I see is strange clouds strange clouds etc

Coke, Dxm, benzos, any rc I can get my hands on normally.

Caffeine, alcohol, and weed.
All in moderation.

>>7127124 (OP)

just did 8mg of hydromorphone for the first time

not sure what to expect

I snorted it btw

>>7127124 (OP)
>you do
Nicotine and alcohol
>you did
Shrooms/acid/meth/coke/mdma/heroin/any pill I could get my hands on/weed/DMT/salvia/DXM/RCs/Ketamine

Did 4MEC last night. Waste of a line.

>>7127124 (OP)
You do DMT and shrooms, yet you also do
mdma, cocaine, adderal and hydrocone?
I think you're lying about the dmt and shrooms.

>>7127204
Why? I like stimulants and opiates and psychedelics.

>>7127204
>you can only like certain types of drugs
Wat?

In a perfect world, the holy trinity of caffeine, weed, and shrooms.

In the real world, shrooms have been replaced with too much alcohol because it's the only way to socialize with my coworkers and get ahead.

I smoke pot almost every day.
I drink almost every weekend.

That's pretty much it.

>>7127234
No, i'm just taken back that someone who liked psychadelics also would like stimulants...

Usually this isn't the case... either that, or he's not dosing high enough on DMT.

Toke 60mg. At once. Of DMT. I dare you.

>>7127258
I know plenty of people who like both.

recently did molly combined with an extremely strong edible and had the most horrifying trip of my life....I felt so uncomfortable and lost, everything was a black void and I couldn't get comfortable. I've been having flashbacks and I'm trying to snap back into reality but its been tough. it was so fuckin scary man..I can't believe u can feel things like that, its unreal and I wouldnt wish anybody to be in the state of mind I was.

it was stupid and I'm never touching drugs again...hopefully I can go back into my normal state of mind...I realize I don't need drugs in my life and I love being sober. I don't think drugs are bad and its a lot of fun to do with friends, just be careful

>>7127258
I liked stimulants.
I also liked psychs.
I also liked downers.

>60mg
Been there, done that.

currently staying sober until the 14th (last exam), no drugs, not even alcohol.

got a camping trip planned out for the 15th, got 400ug of acid, probably going to order DMT off silkroad and, of course, lots of weed.

I've tried amphetamine, heroin and mdma but I'm more of a psychedelic fan, I absolutely love LSD, mushrooms are nice but not that good. I'd like to try mescaline some day.

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>>7127258

silence, faggot.

Some people just like drugs and getting high. Only 20 but I do whatever I can get my hands on. Am prescribed vyvanse, abuse the shit out of it to keep me up when I drink at parties. Do cocaine, MDMA, snort adderall, any other stimulant I can get my hands on, but I also smoke weed daily and take LSD and shrooms periodically when I have enough money. Done DMT a couple times, take whatever pharms are around too.

>>7127298
just gonna leave the thread. people lke you are why its illegal.

Used to smoke weed and tobacco. Quit both and just drank. I'm wanting to start weed again though but have no idea who to ask. The people I know who smoke to get a dealer contact out of will want to smoke with me, and I hate smoking with other people. So that's been a dilemma.

Smoke weed, smoke tobacco, take 25x's, 2c's, DMT, Shrooms, MDMA, AMT. Keep it trippy.

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>>7127274
>>7127274
>>7127274


>molly
>horrifying trip
>trip
>flashbacks
>trying to convince everyone how strong the edible was

you must be new here. Do you even drug?

>>7127328
>people who do drugs responsibly are whey they're illegal
Eh?

>>7127322
>I'd like to try mescaline some day.
Very fun.

>>7127326
>Some people just like drugs and getting high
Indeed.
I like feeling "different"
Doesn't matter much what that "different" is.

>>7127384
I've done shrooms, acid, coke, e/molly all multiple times at strong doses too. it was either the mix of the edible/molly or my state of mind but it wasn't a good day let me assure you. even as I write this my mind still feels so displaced from reality, I'm sure most ppl and probably you would have gone completely insane from the pure discomfort and screaming void my mind was in, so please be thoughtful

I use DXM once a month. I think I am going to stop, though, because I don't want to be someone who uses drugs, and the post-trip dysphoria is increasing in intensity. Every time it sets in I really believe I'm going to die and the world is ending.

One good thing is that my most recent trip seems to have done away with my anxiety. I don't know how this is possible. I've had severe anxiety plus social anxiety since my early childhood. Now it's gone. I'm still a depressed loser but my anxiety is just gone. Needless to say I'm happy about this, but confused.

>>7127124 (OP)
I love andrew bird

>>7127516
Me too. Do you think he does drugs?

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Ordered 10 tabs of LSD from SR, never done acid before.
Also ordered 1g MXE from BMR.

2C-B from SR was fucking fun, kept redosing after 4 hours. Me and my friend laughed for 11 hours straight, our faces fucking hurt.

>>7127671
I'll probably start using SR once I leave uni. I've always been scared of that shit. Seems shady as fuck. Have people been busted for this?

>>7127798

Just one seller that I know of. And it was his mistake, police raided his place and found a note with his login info on it.

I smoke weed.

I'm high now listening to David Bowie.

Good shit yo.

>>7127671
All the 2Cs are a blast.

>never done acid before
If you've done 2C-I/2C-E, it's like that (as far as "trippy visuals" and a decent body high) but acid is much more spiritual/introspective for most people. So not so much on the giggles. (2C-E seems to be more similar, for me at least)

Now that I've been through too many bad shroom/acid trips, I stick to the other stuff that isn't as "deep". You get the fun without so much chance of the bad. All depends on what you want from it. Acid shouldn't be used as a "party" drug.

>>7127913

Every mushroom trip has been a bad one for me, but I should blame the settings, not the drug.

>>7127934
actually, a lot of people, when comparing shrooms and acid say that they feel there's a bigger chance of having a bad trip with shrooms, having done both I agree, with lsd I felt much more in control of my trip. enjoyed it more aswell.

I smoke weed frequently, and I'm soon going to take shrooms. I've had what the guy told me was acid, though I think they were actually NBOMES. I also smoke cigarettes, but I'm taking the e-cig escape route. I'm keen to try DMT, maybe coke a few times and heroin once with a very strictly controlled come-down and recovery environment. Mescaline, genuine acid, peyote and ketamine are also on my list. With a relapse rate of 80-93%, I'm not about to touch meth, though I would try their toned down prescribed cousins like adderal.

>>7128008

That's probably true, shrooms felt very.. "unstable" or unpredictable.

>>7127934
Ouch. Either way, that's not fun.

>>7128024
>wants to do heroin
>won't touch meth
I advise you against your choice. Not that you wish to refrain from meth, but if you are willing to do hard drugs but are worried about how addictive they are and don't think you can control yourself, you probably should not reach too far.

>>7127826
Some people have been caught, but that's usually when they buy from risky sellers who may be bad packagers, or if the buyer was a loudmouth and someone burned them.

>>7128053
I know it's a little weird. My cokehead friend says that for her, heroin was kinda like one long come-down, a little bit of a down buzz, so I imagine I could probably manage to safely snort just a line without getting hooked. Then again, I suppose it'd be smarter and cheaper to just do CWE of codeine.

>>7127671
How much did you paid for 10 tabs? Also
Link to sk?

Used to smoke weed a lot, not very much anymore. Too much anxiety.
Usually have a beer followed by a glass of red wine every night.
Smoke a cigar every 1-3 days.

It seems rather tame now that I've written it but it's nice. Sometimes I want to start drinking at like 1pm though. I'm a little worried about that.

>>7128113

Around 65 euros. Use google, it's the first result.

>>7127671
Take 6 tabs min for your first trip

>>7128113
Not him, but I think there's someone in Canada that sells 10 for 0.3 bitcoins. But I checked that before the spike from like, 60 to 125 or whatever it is now.

What's the most fun I can have cheaply from over-the-counter drugs?

I heard taking 700+mg of dipenhydramine (sleep aids) is fun.

On a related note, what ingredients should I be looking for in diet pills to be used as a stimulant?

>>7127124 (OP)
cannabis (helps back pain from spinal fusion) and caffeine (fucking love caffeine sshhiit)

I have prescriptions for Xanax and Klonopin. When I got them they kind of changed my life because for the first time I wasn't deathly afraid of other people, and the Xanax works fast enough that I could take it when I start to spiral into depressive panic 2-3 times a week. I take them for Asperger's, SAD, GAD, OCD, and some signs of bipolar disorder.

Now I'm getting a little scared because when I don't take them (prescribed as needed) I feel like crawling out of my skin, even though my Drs say I'm not taking enough for withdrawals (up to 1mg a day of either).

>>7128135
>0.3 btc
dam'n, I remember buying 5 250ug tabs for thirtysomething bitcoins back in the day when sr was new and unknown. if only I had kept those bitcoins...

>>7128024
i've only done meth once & i wish i never did it because it is so perfect. that wanting feeling will always be in the back of my mind, but i'll never do it again as long as i live because it would be so easy to get addicted to. i wouldn't recommend trying it, but not everyone who tries it gets addicted instantly

>>7127468
Shit dude. How much are you taking?

>>7128162
DXM cough syrups
>>7128129
>6 tabs min for your first trip
that's way too much for a first-timer or so I've heard

>>7128238
>DXM cough syrups
How much for optimal high?

>>7128255
DXM is shit btw

currently trying to get off of phenazepam

max dose was 12mg's a day at one point

now I feel like dying when my plasma levels drop down to 3mg's

I only have like a weeks worth left and i dont even have a line on benzos any more

WHAT THE FUCK DO

>>7128267
Once you're on benzos consistently, especially at high doses, it is nearly impossible and very dangerous to stop. Tapering down by a few percent of your dose per month is the only safe way to do it. At that dose it could take a couple years to do it the easiest way.

TFW no dmt in my area.

I take MDMA when I go to the big festivals up here in Edmonton. Just makes me so happy and makes me more open, even helped me pick up some grillz

>>7128416
Charcoal or propane grillz?

>>7128444
propane of course

>>7128267

Y'know, I jumped cold turkey off about 0.5mg clonazepam which I was prescribed to take daily. (I was supposed to take it twice a day, but I often binged or gave away my whole month's prescription, so I really didn't take very much of it at all.) I had gone down to just 0.5mg every other day, then I was taken off completely. The anxiety was so, so, so bad for like a month. I could barely talk and I had a constant tremor to the point others would ask me why I was shaking. Then it dropped off to reasonable levels, though I still couldn't really leave my house. After about 3-4 months of literal constant stomach-churning anxiety, it finally let up. And by God, that glorious day will never be forgotten.

Before benzos I was naturally a very anxious person, so I imagine my withdrawals weren't very severe. The worst symptoms I had were a slight tremor for the first couple weeks, some freaky panic attacks and vomiting/IBS type issues. They still were there however and it isn't an exaggeration when you read that they last for months. If I had a bad reaction at the low doses I was using, your life will suck for the next 6 months if you aren't careful.

You know you need to taper, that much is obvious. You should honestly talk to a doctor. They won't turn you in to the cops or anything though they may peg you as a drug seeker. If nothing else you will get some kind of non-abusable anti-seizure med.

Good luck, benzo withdrawal is no joke. I'm glad I got off as easy as I did.

>>7128632
No joke, quitting .5mg of xanax or klonopin even after a few days is awful. I can't decide which is worse, being addicted to a drug or being too scared to do anything involving other people.

Benzos work so well that it is scary, life just isn't the same afterward.

>>7128690

Being addicted to benzos was worse by orders of magnitude. I couldn't get pleasure out of anything and I was numb and oblivious to everything. I also made so many stupid decisions that I will regret for many years to come. At least during withdrawals I could begin to think critically again and started to feel a range of emotions.

I didn't even think I had a problem, nor was I expecting to get withdrawals - I thought I'd tapered enough. That's how dumb benzos make you. I didn't know what was happening when I suddenly got this terrible anxious feeling and nausea/vomiting. It took me a couple days to realize it must have been the benzos.

Granted I was also smoking a lot of weed at the time.

Anyway, to the phenazepam guy -- good luck and be careful. Again, I'd strongly suggest talking to a doctor. A lot of doctors are clueless but if nothing else they could save you from a seizure.

>>7128205
>i've only done meth once & i wish i never did it because it is so perfect
>because it is so perfect
Glad someone here gets it.

>>7128129
Worst advice ever. This obviously comes from a non user.

>>7128255
Depnds on what you have.
New users should avoid the higher plateaus.

>>7128690
>.5 bezo
>addiction
I feel your pain, but you got off lucky

>>7128255
Just drink a whole bottle.
Make sure you've got weed to smoke with it though. It works wonders for the nausea

My mates and I have all done a fair bit of drugs.
Just recently we did some 25i nbome, and my friend had a bad trip.
He got stuck in a weird thought loop, then started freaking out about everything, shit was pretty fucking crazy. Probably the worst trip i've ever had.

I've taken 4-aco DMT, Salvia, Mescaline, MDMA, MXE, Ibogaine, and DMT. My brain has been so fucked

>>7128162
if you take that much dph you are going to endure hell.
spiders and shadow people everywhere

>>7128255
depends on what you want
1st plat is stimulant like
2nd becomes dissociation
3rd is the separation of body and mind
4th is reality no longer exists
5th is reality never existed to begin with

i recommend staying below 2nd for your first time. hallucinations generally start at 350-500
depending on body weight

>>7129476
There's only 4 plateaus in DXM.
I think you're confusing plateau sigma for the fifth plateau, but it can't really be considered that since it can't be reached by taking more than a 4th plat dose. It's reached by maintaining a 3-4 plat dose for 12-16 hours.

>>7129510
erowid has said the fifth is real, just very unpleasant and usually requires a visit to the hospital

I nod out about 5-6 times a week, mostly on methadone, hydromorphone or oxymorphone. Occasionally i'll buy tar instead since it's cheaper.
I've tried dozens of research chemicals and have found a special love with the arylcyclohexylamines, especially N-ethyl-ketamine, 3-meo-pcp, mxe as well as the more recognized ones of pcp, ketamine and tiletamine.

>>7129557
No it doesn't.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_experience.shtml

The only thing I ever found mentioning a 5th plat on DXM on erowid is this trip report which was made by somebody who admits they have no experience with DXM; as well as taking a pill that contains other ingredients that are very dangerous to take.
Not exactly a reliable source.

>>7129518
I know what you're talking about, since I have researched DXM extensively. That site said the "fifth plateau" was actually just a DXM overdose. Here's a better sum of plateaus.

1st - Trippy feeling, like low levels of mushrooms
2nd - Body mostly numb with increased trippyness and slurred words
3rd - Hallucinations every time you close your eyes, body completely numb, very pleasant warm feeling
4th - Open eye hallucinations, near complete loss of motor function, tripping pretty hard at this point, you don't have a body at all that you are aware of


DXM is awesome and I want to buy some now

>>7129588
http://dxm.darkridge.com/text/beginners.html
i guess you couldnt really consider it a plateau because it is essentially just an overdose.

>tfw I've got maybe two tightish cones worth left and it's like 50% leaf

Man this sucks, I always try to get really fucked up high and this is not gonna cut it.

>>7129059

Well I weigh 110lb. (female) and I'd been prescribed 1mg klonopin a day for about 6 months (0.5mg/day for around 5 months). So it was kind of a lot for me. Low doses are still addictive. You won't seize or die from the withdrawals, but you still have really fucking bad anxiety. Have you ever even had benzo withdrawals? It ain't pretty.

Getting some 2C-B and DOM pretty soon, which should be fun. Anyone have any experiences to share regarding DOM, it's not a drug I hear so much about.

>>7129235

The NBOMe's are shit in my opinion. My trip started out with horrible, furious, food-poisoning-esque vomiting. Then I curled up on my bed in a ball, bad feelings all around. I had to have a couple shots of rum to calm me down. Eventually it flattened into mood swings -- I'd feel good and all psychedelic-euphoric for 10 minutes, then swing into dysphoria. It was the first time I cried my eyes out while on a psychedelic. It was really intense with lots of visuals, more intense than a ~150ug acid trip at least, but my trip had surprisingly no depth, no deep thoughts or revelations.

Of course my idiot best friend had cursed me out at the beginning of my trip and called me an idiot for taking an RC. So that probably had something to do with my experience. Either way, just from the horrific body load, terrible anxiety, would not take again/10. I'm a fan of the psychedelic experience in general but the NBOMes are not fun.

I don't do any drugs because I'm not a twat
> dregs r cool yo!

>>7127124 (OP)
I'm only replying for my love of Andrew Bird.
I'm straight-edge. .__.

>>7133536

No experience with DOM but 2c-b is so fun. So euphoric and amazing, the ideal drug in my opinion. Aside from the slight persisting visuals I've had ever since I took it. But y'know, whatever.

I d-don't do drugs.

I can easily get some magic truffles. Never used any drugs in my life.


What do you think, anon, should I try? Which ones should I try the first time?

benzos and oxy when I can afford it
i also smoke heroin on the weekend but I would never IV
too scared of doing meth but my friends do

cannabis, tobacco, alcohol. looking to score psychedelics (LSD, salvia, shrooms) and possibly MDMA, but no luck so far. no intention of doing anything harder than this.

I can't get any real bud. I just moved to a uni and can't find anything. I've been dry for months.

Right now I'm just trying synthetic legal blends I can find. I don't want to smoke much of it though.

>morphine
>heroin
>cocaine
>lsd
>molly
>ketamine

No need for weed.

>>7133507
>Have you ever even had benzo withdrawals? It ain't pretty.
Yup. They're not fun.

>>7133617
>thinks doing drugs makes you a twat
>isn't a twat
Lawl.

Weed and alcohol.

I'm gonna try truffles in a while, maybe XTC, and probably DMT, which i plan to manufacture and sell for lods of emone.

>>7134177
>XTC
The fuck is wrong with you?

>>7134195
My girlfriend likes a certain girl who is bi as well, she does it sometimes, it's said to make people horny, we kind of have plans to go do it together.

Go figure out why i would consider it.

>>7134229
No, I meant your abbreviation.

>>7134252
That's not an uncommon name for it.

>>7134257
For people who have never done it

>>7128209
To curb tolerance I generally increase my dosage by 60mg every month. Last trip was 300mg (I weigh 115 lbs).

>>7134257
>That's not an uncommon name for it.
Actually, it is!

>>7134266
>>7134288
Maybe in amerifattopia, not in the netherlands.

Cannabis and adderall.

I've been up for almost 3 days straight.

>>7134301
lel, I'm British.

7blox

>>7134301
>that's what you think

Obviously, you've never done if you're going to try to have sex on it

>>7134332
Nice evading the issue there, faggot.

People here call it XTC all the time. Nuts, peanuts, singers, tags, pillies, trash, x, XTC are some off the top of my head. Barely ever does anyone here use 'ecstasy'. Don't think that just because i haven't done it doesn't mean i don't know anything about it. My closest friends do it all the time, as well as a myriad of other things.

On the other thing you said, don't really think it will be an issue. I've discussed it with others before. I've never had dysfunctionalities with any drugs i've done, no matter the amount.

>>7134332

Wrong, molly sex rules. It's best after the peak due to boner reasons but if you don't take an insane dose the vasoconstriction won't be too bad.

The problem with molly is that most of the people who take it are idiots and don't understand that taking more than 200mg is a mistake. Even 200mg is pushing it. For example a 150mg dose I've taken was slightly less intense than a 300mg dose but had a much easier comedown as well as less side-effects while rolling. The slight increase in intensity didn't make up for the other issues and it mostly just increased the euphoria rather than the lovey-dovey feelings.

>>7134328
Ah, that's why everything you've said so far is retarded.

>>7134368
>Barely ever does anyone here use 'ecstasy'.
>implying that's the slang I was talking about

>Nuts, peanuts, singers, tags, pillies, trash

Now you're just making things up

I is straight edge.

>>7134368
>I've never had dysfunctionalities with any drugs i've done, no matter the amount.

What does that have to do with anything? It's not like all drugs work the same

>>7134399
Those are direct translations, herp de fucking derp.
Then what were you talking about?

>>7134412
My affinity to lose a boner while on drugs does that have to do with it. I know different drugs of course, but there's somewhat of a 'base value'.

>>7134422
lol, whatever you say dutchbro.

>>7134449
Britbro, what are talking about?

>>7134458
whatever you say

7blox

>>7134422
>My affinity to lose a boner while on drugs does that have to do with it. I know different drugs of course, but there's somewhat of a 'base value'.

No, it doesn't. There is no "base value" because there's no point in comparing of the effects of one drug to completely different drugs

>>7134478
People told me i wouldnt be able to get a boner after a lot of alcohol. They were wrong. People told me i wouldnt be able to get a boner after a lot of weed. They were wrong as well. People told me the same about the combination. Again wrong.

It doesn't say anything definitive of course, but i dont specifically have more reason than others to fear bonerloss, implications of less than them.

>>7134167
We defend our respective side, maybe if I did drugs I'd see it in a different light, but I don't.

It's just that my dad was an abusive alcoholic and once some drunk guy started on me, so because of alcohol, all drugs are bad.

>>7134511
>People told me i wouldnt be able to get a boner after a lot of weed.

Whoever told you that is retarded. Do you just hang out with people who don't know anything about drugs?

Either way, comparing weed and alcohol to MDMA is stupid since they aren't even remotely the same.

Also, it's not that you can't get a boner with MDMA, it's that it's very difficult to reach climax

I smoke weed. Lost the magic with MDMA so I haven't done it in about a year. Too busy for pyschedlics. Occasional opiates. Don't like stimulant. I do want to pick up some shrooms sometime though

>>7134546
A lot of weed inhibits sometimes people from getting 'seriously' turned on. It just doesn't interest them, gets no reception in the brain.

As i said no, close friends of mine do a good bit of drugs and know a lot about it too.

>>7134511
You've done weed and alcohol and you talk about MDMA like you know what you're doing?

If you think "getting a boner" is why we're saying you're an idiot, you should really start to learn more about the drugs you plan on doing.
Kids these days.

>>7134516
>alcoholic and violence
>implying these aren't the fault of the character, not the drug

>>7134579
>It just doesn't interest them, gets no reception in the brain

That makes no sense whatsoever. Your friend is making things up

>>7134603
No, ease the fuck off, i've read >>7134546.

Retard.

>>7134611
You're not going to truely understand this and where i'm coming from, but you have shitty weed and do not know what it is to really be high.

>>7134623
>You're not going to truely understand this and where i'm coming from

You're not going to truly understand this and where i'm coming from because you're too stupid and you think what your friend says is actual science. It's bullshit. There's no such thing as "getting no reception in the brain" because you're too high.

>>7134664
I meant the idea, it's an analogy you fuckwit.

>>7134674
Are you retarded? That's not how analogies work. It's just bullshit, that's it.

>>7134623
>No, ease the fuck off, i've read
Calm down kiddo, two people are allowed to say the same thing.
And now that you've read our posts you think you're an expert I bet.

>>7134674
>say something retarded
>no you retard it was an analogy
>hurrrhurdurrrrrrrp

>>7134716
>was high
>girlfriend around
>making out a little
>want to fuck
>brain just doesn't get in the mood
>i know i want to fuck, the right hormones and whatnot just aren't released
Not that guy but i hear him, happened to me 1st hand. its not that difficult to understand

>>7134716
>Calm down kiddo, two people are allowed to say the same thing.
And if someone repeats something stated earlier with some hostility, i am allowed to tell them to calm their nips and that i already knew that.

And like i said, i've discussed the situation earllier with a few dozen other people, but we came to the conclusion that it wouldn't be a problem for me because lasting long would actually be a very good thing. The post about why molly sucks for sex reminded me of it. Sorry, i have dissociative memory disorder, i remembered the facts and whatnot, just not why the facts were the way they were. It's kind of hard to explain.

>tried out MPA to help me focus and study
>been awake for 36 hours so far and taken 190mg in that time
>not sleepy
>kind of want to take some more so I can carry on working

fuck that though, I don't want to push it and stay up another night

weed smoker, mdma-er and drinker here, WHERE DA FUQ CAN I GET SOME DMT

inb4 silk road, unless you have a trustworther seller im staying well away from that shit

>>7128466
Taste the meat, not the heat.

>>7134793
also just to note: this is the first stimulant I've ever tried and apparently this stuff is shite but I'm enjoying the fuck out of it, so now I really really want to get my hands on some adderall or something

Any other rowboats go to raves? (amerifat sports stadium raves need not apply)

>>7134861
I've been wanting to go to a rave, but I don't really know how to find them.

Are they fun?

>>7133696
Me and my friends got Psilocybe Atlantis for our first times. Took 6g and tripped HARD.
I recently ordered a shipment of the same strand from a dutch website and have them in my fridge right now, enough for at least 10g each. Me and my friends are just waiting for a convenient time for us to try them again.

>>7134791
>talking to random people
>not reading actual scientific articles

It's no wonder you believe so much bullshit and make up more bullshit like "dissociative memory disorder"

>>7134949
There's really not that much actual scientific articles about almost worldwidely prohibited substances.

>>7134861
>murrican
>never been to a sports stadium rave
I quit going though. Might start again now that I'm off probie.

>>7134884
>Are they fun?
If you like drugs and people and music.
Depending on where you are, the culture can be a bit silly though.

>>7134963
You're just not even trying

You can just go Google Scholar, type in "MDMA" and find thousands of scholarly articles on the drug
scholar.google.com/

>>7135049
>too much work
>learning is hard
>why would I use google when I can just ask my friend that knows everything about drugs
>ur retarted
>etc etc
Wait for ittttttt.............

>>7135049
When it comes to drugs, i value empirical research of people i trust more than scientists.
>weasel words
>can't make bold statements so ambiguous as fuck
>conflicting views everywhere

>>7135075
>friend
>thinking i'm a retard that would only consult one person

>>7135087
>When it comes to drugs, i value empirical research of people

It's not empirical research, it's anecdotal stories. Just because a friend told you, doesn't mean he's right. Go ahead, believe bullshit for the rest of your life.

You're greentexts suggest that you haven't picked up a single scientific book in your entire life.

>>7135126
>Just because a friend told you, doesn't mean he's right.
I'm not friends with lying douchebags, though.

>>7135126
Also i'm currently studying applied physics at the university of applied sciences in delft.

>>7135134
>I'm not friends with lying douchebags, though.

I'm not saying your friends are liar, I'm saying their retarded and believe their own stupid bullshit. But what's the point in telling you that? Obviously, you're as stupid as your friends if you believe the shit they tell you.

>>7135175
So basically, they don't even know what they're feeling themselves? Who are you to say that? You have no grounds at all to say that what they say is a lie, except for your scientific articles that are contradicted by other scientific articles.

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>>7127258
are you one of those holier than thou "psychonauts" i've been involved in the psychedelic scene from my country pretty long, i always was a strictly psychedelic, booze and weed kinda guy but i can enjoy some stimulants time to time at a party, they do wear you out tho it's just about not taking too much

>>7135087
Wow.

Yeah, your friends are brilliant people.

>>7135134
No, you're friends with retards.
It's okay, you're one too.

>>7135218
>except for your scientific articles that are contradicted by other scientific articles.

What contradictions? You haven't even read any of them.

>So basically, they don't even know what they're feeling themselves?

I'm not talking about the subjective effects, I'm talking about the bullshit explanations for those effects and the baseless conclusions you made drugs because of how other drugs affected you.

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I love heroin. I just got out of jail on Friday, got high on Saturday. I booted a half gram and was reminded as to why opiates are God's gift to man. Haven't caught another habit yet, but I plan to. Just no funds now. Depending on my girls to help me out but, funnily enough, junky bitches aren't the most reliable especially after your down for 3 months. It's the best... THE BEST. Heroin is the best.

>>7135303
Give me a common result from doing MDMA and i could give you a scientific article contradicting your statement almost guaranteed.

>the baseless conclusions you made
My ability to have sex has never deteriorated under any influence, therefore all i said was that there is reason to believe that MDMA won't either. Not all people have it harder to climax due to it, and due to my past with drugs and sex, there is little reason to believe i am part of those people.

>>7134603
>implying these aren't the fault of the character
Only one drunk guy out of 3 I've met has been nice, therefore only 33% of drunk people are nice.

heh heh top lal

>>7135375
>any influence
Earlier all you mentioned was weed and booze.
Please tell me that's all you've done.

>>7135397
Why the hell are you making XTC out to be something of a whole different level? It isn't. It's the poor man's opiate/amfet, which by themselves barely do bad things to sexual ability.

And yes.

>>7129476
I hit 4-5th plat in january this year on semiaccident, I measured the dose to be 1700mg as I did 1500mg earlier that week and wasnt that bad, since I didnt include my body weight (55kg) I hit 4-5plat and had to go to hospital for intense dehydration and irregular heartbeat, was in ICU for about a day. Needless to say, that was one trip that I was completely disconnected from everything and will most likely be my last trip. DXM is still an amazing drug but for all newcomers, be careful, know your body, and work your way up slowly, dont go dropping 800mg until youve had experience with 300-500mg.

>>7135432
>and yes
So you don't know what you're talking about
>whole different level
Because it is. It's not "ZOMG SO FUCKING CRAZY" but it's extremely different from anything you've experienced, and you're making assumptions based off things your friends say and the results of drugs nothing like it.

>XTC
>amfet
You've got to be fucking kidding me.

>>7135432
And it's nothing like opiates or "amfet"

>>7135375
You just said there's contradictions and you can't even pick one example? How can you know there's contradictions if you haven't even read them yourself?

Just for kicks, every scholarly article with MDMA+memory says that MDMA impairs memory. Find a contradiction for that.

>My ability to have sex has never deteriorated under any influence, therefore all i said was that there is reason to believe that MDMA won't either.

That's still a pointless conclusion to make. They're chemically different and affect the brain and body differently; there's no reason to that the lack of effects in one drug will mean a lack of effect in another. I've said it a hundred times, but you still don't understand.

>>7135456
Ecstasy or XTC is a pill usually containing MDMA, laced with heroine, cocaine, speed and/or meth and/or other substances.

We're not talking pure MDMA here. Some pills don't even contain MDMA. Also MDMA itself is a fucking amphetamine.

>>7135467
But it is under the amphetamine class...

(if that's what he meant by "amfet")

>>7135502
It's not laced with heroin or cocaine unless the person is retarded because that'd be a waste of money. It's usually cut with meth

>>7135498
>almost guaranteed
I said almost for a reason, there are some things that are not contradicted, obviously.

MDMA is not specifically said to impair sexual ability, not in the same magnitude excessive alcohol does at least. Sure, it's not conclusive, but it certainly isn't baseless.

>>7135520
Yes. In my language we write it with an f so it carried over when abreviating it

>>7135502
I am aware of the drug, thanks.
I've done it, and did my research.

It's the fact that you continue to use retarded names for things that I was addressing. Makes one think that you're too young to view this site.

>>7135533
Some pills contain some cocaine or heroine.

I like dxm

shit feels nice, but you cannot cum on it. at all.

Drink beer on weekends. Tried hash brownies. Took way too many my first time. Unpleasant experience. I can't smoke the stuff without getting reminded. Pot just makes me feel unbalanced and paranoid.

>>7135539
What are you even talking about? XTC is a valid name for the drug. Amfet was a typing error due to the word being near identical in my language and the one difference carrying over.

>>7135555
I've been doing that nonstop lately, it's fucking me up though. I can't sleep and when I do the dreams are way too vivid. I wake up and feel like I'm in a daze and messing up basic things. It's a good cure for depression though because I'm just so out of it I don't care anymore about anything.

Also codeine syrup, just ask for it over the counter

>>7135538
>I said almost for a reason, there are some things that are not contradicted, obviously.

Jesus fuck, it's "almost guaranteed", but you can't even pick out one contradiction. Usually, "almost guaranteed" doesn't mean "almost never".

>>7135550
>heroine
I'd love for a heroine to be in my ecstasy.
Sorry.

>>7135562
>valid name
It's ecstasy. And amphetamines. When attempting to have a conversation where you're trying to prove you're not retarded, actually using words is a good idea.

>>7135639
His smart friends aren't around to help.

>>7135550
MDMA pills rarely, if ever, contain cocaine or heroin (heroin being even more unlikely). It wouldn't be cost effective

>>7134884
Check on facebook, then call the partyline at about 11 for the location. if you are in London then art of psychedelia is always a good night.

>>7135533
>>7135682
I've had some with heroin. It depends on area, but I agree that's it's rare, and pretty pointless.

It's not fun unless it's meth. Or ketamine.

>>7135785
How could you possible know it's heroin and not some other opiate, unless you tested it?

>>7135670
QQ more, nigger. XTC is a valid, commonly used name, more common than 'ecstasy' here. Why do you give such a shit that i abbreviated a word and made a mistake with the spelling?

>>7135682
Not never, though.

>>7135639
A lot of scientific sources agree that the effects of MDMA are still not fully mapped, understood, done with being researched, etc., therefore any effects observed now might be part of a different effect, therefore making it incorrect to say that said effect happens due to the MDMA.

>>7135831
>A lot of scientific sources agree that the effects of MDMA are still not fully mapped, understood, done with being researched, etc., therefore any effects observed now might be part of a different effect, therefore making it incorrect to say that said effect happens due to the MDMA.

The chemical mechanism isn't fully understood, but subjective experiences can still be linked to MDMA. There is no contradiction in that.

You still haven't even provided any contradicting articles.

>>7127124 (OP)
L-Luke???

>>7135891
>The chemical mechanism isn't fully understood, but subjective experiences can still be linked to MDMA. There is no contradiction in that.
THERE WE FUCKING GO.

You can't discredit my subjective experiences, be they second hand, for no reason then.

The chemical mechanism not being fully understood in itself is already contradicting articles that say it does anything they say it does.

>>7135819
>unless you tested it?
That was hard.

Plus I knew my dealers well, for all types of drugs I did. I rarely bought at a rave, and that was in the early days.

But I had to get him to track some down for me. Not something you'd commonly buy.

>>7135831
>QQ
>nigger
>amfet
>xtc

I don't give a shit, it just makes you look retarded, and you need all the help you can get because you're comparing ecstasy to weed and alcohol.

>>7135935
Protip: i give very little fucks what a rude, jackass tripfag thinks.

You were the ones that went
>having sex on 'XTC'
being ambiguous assholes. Me not precisely understanding you isn't fully my fault.

>>7135923
What articles? There isn't any contradiction. It's more along the lines of "people who take X, generally experience Y"

You still haven't provided a single article.

>>7135961
>generally
Oh, but your sources were valid, scientific articles, were they not? If your sources aren't 100% sure of their findings, they aren't any more credible to me than my trusted friends.

>>7135961
>You still haven't provided a single article.
And i'm not really going to. Unless you can provide an article that knows for sure about one of the effects, i can't disprove it. I'm not going to do your side of the argument here. Seeing what you just said, that's not likely to happen.

>>7136006
>I'm not going to do your side of the argument here.

You're the one that claims scholarly articles contradict each other; you have to provide the evidence. You can't even show a single contradicting article and yet you somehow "know" that they do contradict each other.

>If your sources aren't 100% sure of their findings

Do you not understand how science works? They report what they find and draw conclusions from the evidence of their experiment, they don't make up stuff.

>>7135960
Protip:
I give very little fucks what a retarded kid who doesn't bother to learn about drugs thinks.

>>7136069
>they don't make up stuff.
But his friends do.
Therefore they should be trusted.

>>7136111
>doesn't bother to learn about drugs
Who the hell says that? In previous threads i learned about the difficulty of climaxing on MDMA, but like i said i have dissociative memory disorder.

How do you know that my friends make stuff up?

>>7136154
There's no such thing as "dissociative memory disorder"

>>7136069
You were the one that claimed that science contradicts my friends' anecdotes. If it's still about the 'mdma = cant have boner' thing then yes, i concede that this is wrong, again, dissociative memory.

>>7136187
not him, but he's probably talking about this:

http://www.minddisorders.com/Del-Fi/Dissociative-amnesia.html

>>7136154
>How do you know that my friends make stuff up?
>>It just doesn't interest them, gets no reception in the brain

>hurr anology hurr

>>7136189
>You were the one that claimed that science contradicts my friends' anecdotes.

I never said that, at least about their own experiences on a drug. They were wrong about the other bullshit like your brain "losing reception".

And I said you were wrong a contradicting articles.

>>7136238
That is nothing like what he's describing at all. He's saying he remembers some facts and not others or something (which is pretty much normal human memory)

>>7136238
Yes, thank you. I simply translated it from my language.

>>7136262
>hurr i'm a dick hurr
I simply don't know what you call it when you use a phrase that represents and simplifies what you are trying actually convey, shoot me.

>>7136295
this anon >>7134741
already elaborated on that. This is pretty much precisely what i meant

>>7136320
I feel dissociated from the facts, like i remember a fact not fully, my brain takes whatever it thinks of as the rest of the fact and i believe it as a truth. I'm not sure what the source has to say about it, but i've been diagnosed professionally.

>>7136387
>has diagnosed memory problems
>wants to do "xtc"
Lemme guess, friends told you it was a good idea?

>>7136409
Read the thread.

>hurrblox

>>7136427
>been here for the whole thread
>told to read it

I give up.
Go do drugs kid.

>>7136451
reason:
>>7134229

Yes, apparently you didn't read it well enough.

>>7136468
>implying I missed that part
Your reason has nothing to do with my post about drugs and memory.

Got an accurate description of my memory:
>When facts are called upon, some aspects of them are gained directly from the subconscious part of the brain, not undergoing conscious thought and verification of their truths, and will be regarded as the truth until corrected.

Part of schizotypal personality disorder.

Smoke weed everyday and take prescription seroquel to help me sleep. I drink occasionally as well.

>>7136387
>I feel dissociated from the facts, like i remember a fact not fully, my brain takes whatever it thinks of as the rest of the fact and i believe it as a truth.

Sounds like you're stuck in endless loop of bullshit lol

The "professional diagnosis" sounds like crap too. Entire thing sounds made up

>>7136409
>Lemme guess, friends told you it was a good idea?
I tried to disprove your underlying reasoning, whereas now you seem to simply be a sarcastic fuck. If you're not going to be serious, just don't reply.

And no, my friends had no comment about it. It's my choice if i were to do it and they trust i'm responsible enough.
>hurr i guess they ARE retards
huehue.

>>7136549
Too bad then.

Coffee and weed. Never at the same time.

Oh, and whiskey often helps dull the pain.

>>7136578
>Oh, and whiskey often helps dull the pain.

Life is pain eh

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ITT: raging loser faggots who need to be right in the only topic that they have at least a little knowledge of: drugs
thread destroyed, fuck you

>mfw reading your little fight

>>7136387
>this anon >>7134741
>already elaborated on that. This is pretty much precisely what i meant

That has nothing to do with what I was trying to say. But either way, the "hormone" thing is bullshit too since it doesn't affect your hormones

>>7136610
Welcome to 4chan: Where everyone has to be right about whatever they're talking about and feel superior to everyone else

Pssst, we're both doing it right now

>>7136589
Pretty painful most of the time. Drudgery most days and then wonder every so often to keep everything bearable.

Coffee wakes you up, the weed allows you to let go and 'think' and then the alcohol knocks you out and brings you to an almost primal state.

>>7136612
It was said that climaxing is prolonged, how is that achieved then?
Neurotransmitters then, for use of a better term.

>>7136634
>weed allows you to let go and 'think'

If you smoke weed to ponder intellectually you're doing it wrong.

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>>7136551
>disprove your underlying reasoning
What, that doing drugs when you have memory problems is a bad idea? Because that was the point of that post.

>hurr i guess they ARE retards
Glad you've come to accept this.

>>7136624
That fucking spoiler.

>>7136647
Hence why I wrote 'think'. All of my closest friends believe it's the best time to debate and talk philosophically, when all it does it turn you into a smart, dumb nigger.

Listed in order from what I take most frequently to what I take less frequently.
>Weed
>Nicotine
>Caffiene
>LSD
>Shrooms
>Coke

>>7136683
No, the underlying reasoning that when you were asking about my friends promoting it, you were asking if that were the reason why i was doing that in the first place, which was wrong.

Also MLP reaction pic? Really?

Lots of weed and alcohol. I also did acid once.

I'd like to do another psychedelic, I think.

>>7136643
>Neurotransmitters then, for use of a better term.

How about you stop using words you don't know the meaning of and just admit you don't know what causes prolonged climax, other than that most people who take MDMA experience it

>>7136755
Of course i don't, noone surely does.

>most people
Aaaaaand we've come full circle.

>>7136781
What circle? What's wrong with saying "most people" in context of a subjective experience? Do you even know what you're arguing for? Must be your "dissociative memory disorder"

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>>7136713
>you were asking if that were the reason why i was doing that in the first place
No, I wasn't.
I was guessing they said it was a good idea, not that they were the reason you were doing it.

>telling me what I was saying.
Holy fuck.

>Also MLP reaction pic? Really?
Problem?

>>7136827
You are saying most people, while i indicated that i have reason to believe i am not 'most people' in this context, unless you are talking 90+% or whatever.
>but MDMA is different
not THAT different, friends from my stories(subjective experiences) indicate that the 'most' part of most people isn't that significant.

>>7136865
No, you weren't saying that. The underlying reasoning of you asking whether my friends said that, was that it may have been the reason why i did it in the first place. Like i said before, if you're not going to be direct but instead an ambiguous, insulting idiot, then by all means, fuck right off.

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>>7136896
>No, you weren't saying that
Are you arguing just to argue now?
That is exactly what I said.
Just because you took it differently doesn't mean that's not what I said.

>The underlying reasoning of you asking whether my friends said that
No. The reason I said "Lemme guess, friends told you it was a good idea?" is because the idea is retarded and so are your friends.
Get it?

>idiot
>pot
>kettle
>black

>>7136896
>You are saying most people, while i indicated that i have reason to believe i am not 'most people' in this context, unless you are talking 90+% or whatever.


But your reason is based on experience with other drugs; drugs which aren't even in the same class. It's like trying cocaine, meth or caffeine and saying because you didn't get tired with those drugs, you won't feel tired with marijuana.

>not THAT different

Its chemical structure, mechanism, physical effect on the body, etc., is vastly different compared to alcohol and marijuana. They aren't similar at all.

>>7136937
>you weren't saying that
was me conceding that i didn't think that you were saying that.

It's called underlying reasoning for a reason. You ask question. I think reason you ask question is x. I disprove x instead of direct question. Apparently x isnt reason of your question. I wrong.
How fucking hard is this?

>>7136956
That's subjective though. MDMA really isn't seen in such a heavy light that you apparently see it, its really the next step up from marijuana on the ladder of getting-high-ness, so to speak, here.

>>7136980
By the way the reason i wasn't directly answering your question is because you're a sarcastic dick, and unless the reason of your asking the question was what i thought it was, it was an insincere question and as i said, i wouldn't argue with you if you were to continue being a sarcastic asshole, therefore i gave you the benefit of the doubt.

>>7136980
>I disprove x instead of direct question
And you don't think that is retarded?

>Hey, where's the bathroom?
>'gee I wonder why this person is asking me a direct question I better say something about how much he must have had to drink........'
>uh dude, I just need to piss
>WELL DURHUR YOU RETARD THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU SAID

This is fun. /r9k/ makes me feel better sometimes.

>>7136980
>That's subjective though

Its chemical structure and all that stuff is not subjective; it's physical.

>MDMA really isn't seen in such a heavy light that you apparently see it

You're really not understanding what I'm talking about. I'm not saying it's "harder" or "heavier" than marijuana, I'm just saying it's a completely different drug. Comparing the two is completely meaningless in the context of sexual dysfunction (which isn't fully subjective) and other physical (non-subjective) effects.

>>7137036
Yes, and of course the physical results aren't subjective as well, but they do vary per person, quite a bit, that's what i meant the subjectivity of it.

>>7137031
see
>>7137005

Mostly just smoke pot

Occasional Psycs too, LSD, Shrooms

Also I saw someone do coke for the first time at a party the other night

How the fuck do you people handle that shit going through your nose I mean holy shit

>>7137068
The question was a joke you autistic fuck.

The point of the post that doing drugs when you already have memory issues is fucking retarded. just like your friendsand you

>sarcastic dick
And you're a retarded child.
Welcome to 4chan.

>>7137036
And alright, i'm guessing i'd have to experience it firsthand to make any definite conclusions about it, instead of just 2nd hand information.

Still, sexual dysfunction is sexual dysfunction, and while the sources of them may vary, it is not entirely wrong to assume that resistance to one source implies resistance to the other source as well.

>>7137081
>How the fuck do you people handle that shit going through your nose I mean holy shit
It's not bad. Meth sucks.
But really, if it's fine powder, it just... goes. The drip is more annoying than the slight burn.

>>7137087
>The question was a joke
Which is why i didn't answer it directly, you mongoloid.

>hurr ur a newfag
Haha, oh wow.

>>7137068
>Yes, and of course the physical results aren't subjective as well, but they do vary per person, quite a bit, that's what i meant the subjectivity of it.

That's not what subjective means. And drugs don't affect people differently as much as you think; the chemical reactions that occur is the same among everyone. For the most part, people share similar experiences with a drug.

Either way, that's sort of besides the point. I'm saying you can't say one drug will or won't affect you in one way just because of your experience with a completely unrelated drug.

>tfw only 4 posts about salvia
that shit gets you especially trippy

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18 years old, addicted to nicotine and caffeine. Smoked weed erry day while in college but now that I'm back home I haven't smoked in probably 2 weeks, which is the longest I've gone in easily a year. Used to abuse my prescription Ativan but once I read up on benzo addiction I got scared and now I just sell it for weed money. Also fuck with shrooms, DXM, a lot of Adderall, 25i once (it sucks), 4-ACO (amazing), codeine a couple times (not a fan), Vicodin once... Probably forgetting some.

I really wanna drop acid and do DMT, I'm bummed I haven't already.

>>7137091
>Still, sexual dysfunction is sexual dysfunction

Not really. There are different types and different causes. The reason alcohol would cause dysfunction is not the same reason MDMA would

>>7137101
I honestly love Adderall drip whenever I snort it, 15mins after doing a line and you just inhale hard and... yee-haw.

>>7137132
I know, and until i have tried it for myself, i stand by the fact that there is a possibility that there is a relation. Like it was said before, research about the drug is still ongoing, so excluding the possibility that resistance to sexual dysfunction to marijuana and alcohol implies a resistance to sexual dysfunction due to MDMA is wrong.

>>7137155
Unless that is scientifically proven, i am not relinquishing that possibility.

>>7137108
>Which is why i didn't answer it directly, you mongoloid.
I never asked you to. The ENTIRE point of the post, as I've been saying, is doing drugs when you have memory issues is retarded.Like your friendsAnd you

>not being new
>expecting people to not be a dick to retards

>>7137140
>salvia
It just stopped working for me.
I don't get it. I feel a little odd, like it's about to hit, then it never does.