that picture in not accurate. modern college education (particularly the humanities) teaches critical thinking skills and higher-order logic that the uneducated typically lack.

>>6997433 (OP)
I was studying theoretical physics at MIT, now I am living with my parents while looking at $80,000 of debt.

>>6997479
>80K
>dropped out
Shit, man. How many years of tuition is that anyway? I've seen American colleges where that's about 2 years tuition. How much is MIT charging these days for decent degrees?

College failed out here.

Attempted and studied and got tutored and it didn't stick. Dunno why I didn't think any better, I was shit in high school as well.

For all my troubles I have about 10,000 in student loan debts. To add insult to injury the govt just released a new program were interest wont accrue if you're unemployed, and I just got unemployed this year.

So i went three years unemployed getting interest and now that I could apply for it they don't make you pay it anymore. But that's life.

I swear if my stats could be plotted out using the fallout SPECIAL method my luck would be a 2. And I give myself 2 points just because I have a mom that doesn't kick me out for being such a dumb ass and a failure.

>>6997433 (OP)
>mfw I'm not planning to dropout and have actual prospects for a job
My field STARTS at around 50 and only goes up from there. You can make decent money without a degree but it's going to be dead end at some point unless you have an in with the company willing to take a risk with you.

Dropped out because I couldn't afford it and had to take out student loans.

Doing a welding apprenticeship now. Much happier.

>>6997479
You're retarded. Go back and graduate. Get a job and still work from home. You'll pay off the loans in a few years and be rich as fuck.

My brother dropped out of college and I continued. we're employed at the same company but I make 70k where he makes ~25k. Doesn't make me smarter, but it made me slightly richer. Dropping out of college is just dumb though, why would you waste time and effort and accrue debt for no payoff. Either go or don't go there is value in both but ffs don't half ass it.

>that picture is what retards actually believe (or tell themselves when they drop out)
Unless you're talking about shit majors like humanities or lib arts, that's total horse shit.

>>6997505
It's $40k a year, which isn't bad compared to Ivies which are $50k.

MIT also pays full need, so there's really no reason why he'd have to take on any debt unless his parents were making $300k a year and didn't even think to set aside any of that for his education.

Uni dropout reporting in. Now finishing up a technical degree. I don't regret it at all, I fucking hated uni.

>>6997433 (OP)
dropped out two years in a row, thank fuck I'm UK, so my debt is only sterling 7k right now, very lucky not to be american. Still, bad times

I was doing pretty fantastic in school, actually. I wasn't putting my all into it bcuz lol undiagnosed depresshun but I was definitely in the top 20%. Not that that's impressive. I'm just stating.

Then something terrible happened, I fell into a pit and dropped out, moved thousands of miles, worked, got shit on, almost had my throat sliced open, woke up and decided I wanted to go back home and finish what I'd started.

A year after returning, I go back in Fall with scholarships.

>>6997542
>My field STARTS at around 50

is that supposed to be impressive

>>6997581
This. If you planned to teach or be an artist or some shit then I guess college was a waste of time and you could make more money doing something else.
If you were in any kind of STEM (the only majors worth going to college for) then you won't even get an interview without a degree. School is expensive but the potential salary is definitely worth a little debt.

Apprenticing culinary tradesman considering re-enrolling into community college for a third time to gain a basic bachelor's degree understanding of old world cooking techniques expected of any wannabe cook here.

There are two types of careers, I think. One way is to bypass the old school way of gaining experience by going through a streamlined degree course and coming out with a piece of paper saying you've learned X amount of information equivalent to someone who's worked the same amount of years in said field, the other way is to find a field your passionate about and getting completely immersed within it.

For example. I am a cook. After about 5 years of kitchen jobs, usually in fast food chains, being the only jobs I kept, and cooking being the only "social contribution" I saw myself hating the least as I got older, I sat down and began to dwell on the "next step".

For many corporate chain kitchens, the "next step" is usually management, as they are always looking for new management to open up new chain kitchens, however, in traditional culinary tradesmanship, the "next step" would be to seek an apprenticeship under a chef.

Well, while I was training to become a Kitchen Manager at the dead end corporate kitchen job I was working last year, I tried my hand at apprenticing underneath my roommate at the time who was a tattoo artist.

I suck at drawing and as such it didn't really work out, but afterwards I applied the same concept of "free labor in exchange for information and experience" to my day job, which was cooking.

Now, the problem with modern day STEM fields is that there is simply not enough Engineering firms out there for one to simply walk up to and be like "need some help around here" and them put you to work, because most of their labor is contracted(a) and (b), most of their actual work is in the office.

This is something to keep in mind when planning a career especially in this modern world.

>>6997591
Are you paying out of state tuition? What the hell dude.

>>6997479
What is the point of going to an expensive school? My college is 7k a year, I'm not going to have debt when I graduate and a degree from a Public College is better than two years at MIT an 80k debt.

>>6997606
Compared to dropout perspectives and considering the median American income is 30k, yes. And that is the median. It could be anywhere from 45 to 70k starting.

>>6997617
I'm not him, but I've considered MIT.

MIT's a private school, so the tuition is the same whether you live in Massachusetts or not. Most private STEM universities are around $40k, even if they're awful.

>>6997598
How? I'm Belgian and if I were to drop out right now I would have zero debts. Seriously, how do you create debts studying? Is it more expensive in the UK than in continental Europe?

My student loans are going down, only paying for tuition, while my apt is expensive as fuck (one-year-lease). Everything that I've built so far would go down the toilet if I can't afford to stay here. I have a job, but the hours aren't totally guaranteed. I'm trying to pick up a second job even at a fast food restaurant but no hits.

>College dropout
>Not highschool dropout

Step up your game normalfag

>>6997649
Tuition for public British universities is pretty much the same as public American universities.

>>6997609
>If you planned to teach or be an artist or some shit then I guess college was a waste of time
Surely you need a college degree to teach? Am I just reading this incorrectly?

>>6997649
Schools cost money in most cases. Each semester you have a bill that consists of tuition (Some amount of money per credit hour) as well as fees for stupid shit like the gym and other campus projects. If you live on campus you might take loans to pay for that etc. This adds up over 4+ years.

>>6997679
Yeah you do. But you aren't going to make much money doing it. And nobody will be impressed by the fact that the middle school math teacher studied at Yale. Just go to a cheap shit school to get your degree.

>>6997678
However, you should know that 'student loan debt' in Britain is TOTALLY different to debt in America. You don't have to pay it back, for one thing, giving certain situations.

I think it's now if you don't earn over 20K you don't pay it back at all. (20K dollarpounds is actually approaching the average wage in Britain). Also it is written off after 25 years (maybe 30 now) and any payment is taken out of your pay every month or whatever.

>>6997639
What job pays that much with out a college education?

I know trucking you make a decent ammount

>>6997612
To expand upon what I'm doing now...

I am working in kitchens alongside graduates of culinary programs from Art Institute as well as the community colleges, granted they usually ask less questions than I do.

When it all boils down, you get out of life what you put into it, some people choose to study instead of work, then when they graduate and have to work instead of study, and put what they've studied into practice, they find themselves having trouble adjusting to the new work schedule, workload, as well as the bills for their education while still trying to have enough time to effectively develop their career and move up in their field.

In many cases, the promising future in whatever career field we're told will make us X amount of zeros in yearly income at the beginning of orientation isn't the future many graduates live, as they are way too busy doing the same thing I'm doing now, gaining experience that cannot be taught, but must be learned through experience alone, while trying to adjust their lifestyle to accommodate how they make their living, whereas I've chosen a career field that doesn't necessarily require college education, just diligence, an open mind, a humble inquisitive heart, and a drive to work a crazy schedule.

In the end, when STEM cubicle cattle are buying sports cars and big flat screen t.v. on the verge of a mid life crisis, I'm going to be making just as much as they are, completely if not mostly, debt free, having earned my knowledge the old fashioned way, instead of paying for a short cut through educational scholarship, which is all fine and dandy in theory, but if you think the university institution thats in place today is anything like ancient scholarship of the 10-18th centuries and not just another job focused on profits, I have some bad news for you....

>>6997698
Says the person who doesn't understand why people would want to become teachers.

If your passion is imparting knowledge upon others, that knowledge should be of some quality.

>>6997706
Trucking
Sanitation workers (IIRC)
Owning a business
manager.
A lot of other things require taking up a trade.

I dropped out to focus on my music. I got an album coming out June 18th.

Dropped out in 2010, was pretty okay with it until recently. I would like to go back, but I have no idea what to major in. I'm terrible with STEM fields.

>>6997734
I understand why you want to be a teacher. Helping the kids is great and all. But at the end of the day it's not going to pay the bills and ivy league loans at the same time.

You're the kind of person that goes to a 20k/semester school for liberal arts then complains about having 80k in debt and no job. Think these things through. I'm not saying get your degree from McDonalds. But you need to be realistic about the type of money you'll be making and what type of life you want to be living in 10 years. Do you want to still be in debt for muh quality?

>>6997764
Do a two-year degree in the medical field (pharm tech for example). They pretty much give you a job because you have to do clinicals and stuff.

>>6997678
Oh, wow. I didn't know that.

>>6997680
Well yeah, obviously it costs money, but the government takes of the edge and -although some people might have a hard time financially putting their kids through college- I have never heard of someone taking out a loan just to pay for the education. My mom had a fairly rough year when my sister was in her last year in unief and I was in my first, so she had to pay twice as much that year, but even then she didn't have to take out a loan. Taking out a loan, -in my mind- is something you do to buy a house or something. How the hell are you going to ever afford something like a house if you can't even begin making money after you graduate, seeing that you have to spend many years paying of these loans. It's something I honestly can't get my head around.

>>6997753
I'll be sure to pirate it.
Thanks for the heads up.

>>6997764
Then don't go to college. Or at least don't major in liberal arts.

>>6997782
He said he's bad at math.

>>6997778
>But at the end of the day it's not going to pay the bills
It pays the bills for a lot of people in America...

>>6997778
>But at the end of the day it's not going to pay the bills

No one would teach if it didn't pay bills, get real. If "paying bills" means expensive vacations, 100 inch TV's and cadillac SUVs then yeah, teaching isn't the way to go.

>>6997801
Don't misquote me nigger. I said it won't pay the bills and loads. A lot of people were smart and didn't break the bank to get a degree for a career that is notorious for not paying well. If you're going to take on a mountain of debt to work a poor man's job, at least be proud in your decision instead of bitching about it like that choice is someone else's fault.

>>6997795
Dude, have you seen the kind of people that do pharm tech? My cousin was not good at math nor very smart altogether but she has her pharm tech and has a job at a hospital.

I've been accepted into a decent art college for animation, but I'm having doubts about it now. Everyone says it's useless to go to school for art.

It's the only thing I'm marginally good at..

The STEM fields are experiencing less growth than the national job average. The government is too stingy to pay for any major science projects.

Probably better off doing liberal arts if all you're concerned about is getting a job; at least then you can get something doing clerical work.

>>6997784
Uni is like $13,000/yr here. That's about as much as you would make working full-time at a minimum wage job.

>>6997809
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>>6997822
Stop misquoting me you piece of shit.
> But at the end of the day it's not going to pay the bills and ivy league loans at the same time.
>and ivy league loans at the same time.
>and ivy league loans
>at the same time
If you're 100k in debt after you graduate and making 30k a year combined with the cost of living, you're gonna have a bad time.

>wants to be a teacher
>can't into fucking math or reading comprehension.

>>6997833
It is pointless to go for art. Study something easy like business and practice your art in your free time. If you're good enough you can make a living off of your art. If not, fall back on the degree. Best case scenario you use the two in combination.

>>6997852
Typo'd that, it's $26,000/yr here including room & board etc. which is about double a minimum wage job.

>>6997833
You work your ass off when not in class. Any free time, you spend it on learning programs. Torrent The Animator's Survival Kit by Richard Williams. Learn on your fucking own because no one will fucking help you or tell you to learn on your own at school.

I guarantee it, four years of class work plus extra animating on your own time, you'll get a job. That's what matters. Please, work your ass off. You're buying time. Four years of it. If you want to be an animator, do it.

>>6997844
I'm gonna need to see some citation on that cap'n.

>>6997865
This guy also has a point. Marketing is a good one to add onto an art major. If you're dead set on animation, then do what I said in the other reply. Internships in the summer, Pixar, etc.

>>6997856
Teachers start at 40k in my state, and the cost of living here is dirt cheap so I'm satisfied with that. Besides, I don't need "toys" or other decadent things to "show off" success. I'll keep living as modestly as I've always been. Plus, teachers get like 18k off of their student loans if they do it for 5 years (unfortunately teachers are notorious for leaving after the first five years)

>>6997856
>>6997822
But are you even correct in this claim? I'm genuinely asking if Americans literally cannot afford to be in the job they trained for even though many people still do it. Are they all in massive debt that they cannot pay at the end of the month? Even after getting paid at their job?

Also you need to relax a little.

No one goes into teaching because they want money. They do it because it's the one thing that doesn't require them to leave their comfort zone.

They follow the same routine they followed growing up. You wake up, go to school, leave in the afternoon, and you get weekends and holidays.

Summer vacation is like the main keypoint for anyone that says "I think I'll be a teacher!" Especially if you teach at a public school. Then you get all those sweet ass govt benefits including one of the better medical coverage plans you can get, at least at that wage.

>>6997830
Just because the job is piss easy doesn't mean the degree is m8.

>>6997902
You should probably only pay about 10% of your annual salary to student loans. And that's if you aen't living paycheck to paycheck. Making 40k before taxes and we'll call it $4000 in payments every year (disregarding the fact that interest is probably compiling monthly). At that rate of payment in some imaginary fantasy land where interest doesn't matter, it would take you 25 years to finish paying off the loads. Do you really want to be paying for your education well into your career when you still won't be making that much? Honestly I wouldn't recommend getting more in loans than you expect to make in a single year's salary. And even that is a little too much in a lot of cases.

>>6997904
pretty much. We were brainwashed into believing that an education was the only way to succeed. They told us we'd be stuck flipping burgers and running from bill collectors if we didn't get an education.

Little did we know that an education today isn't enough to get a job at mcdonalds and the bill collectors chasing us are the student loan companies who wont let you declare bankruptcy and get to garnish you shit pay.

>>6997919
But teachers don't get summer off. They do a shit ton of stuff during it.

>>6997919
>Summer vacation is like the main keypoint

For me it was the fact that there's nothing else someone studying English could do for money...and the fact that main place for females in the professional world is doing altruistic jobs. I'm fine with it.

>>6997904
I'm not saying that at all. Education is a product. And like all products they come in different qualities. If you're only making Mcdonald's money with your career choice, you have no business getting a 5 course meal education.

And no, fuck you. I won't be misquoted.

I didn't drop out, but sort of dodged a bullet by not going. I was this close to doing a film degree. I wish i was interested in doing a good degree, but instead i just live with my parents and work a shitty job.

I have no idea what I am doing with my life, but people at university like to assert that i'm wasting it. Especially this one guy who is doing philosophy.

>>6997969
they get at least 4 weeks. I know my mom was a public school music teacher.

Most jobs in America only give you 4-7 days a year. And minimum wage and low skill jobs don't even give vacation in most cases.

>>6997969
not unless they mark exam papers its mostly vacation

>>6997969
No. They get summer off. They come back a little early but they definitely get a larger part of the summer off. Even if it were only 2 months, that's loads more than people that work year round get off in vacation time.

>>6997973
Why would you get a degree with such a piss poor job market?

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>>6997881
The pure sciences are even worse off.

Here in Canada college generally just costs a couple grand per semester.

Why doesn't the US government subsidize education?

>>6998017
We are too busy making cuts in education.

>>6997960
>implying I have an ivy league degree

My loans at the end of all this will add up to about 50k, maybe less since I'm getting less money in loans. I think someone with an ivy league degree would get a more high brow position in education, realistically. Either in administration or at a private school, or university education.

took a semester of college, laughed hard at how much of a joke/highway robbery it was. Dropped out and went to a local hobby shop for hours at a clip pretending to be going to school... never returned. Networked with people all over da innanets and off...

Fast forward to modern era, I am the technical lead at MTV making over 6 figures, all without a degree.

watch as my peers graduate with their degrees and are still unable to find jobs still to this day.

almost 8 years after HS graduation; there are only 2 successful people from that graduating class, counted as one of them next to the CIA agent who was also the valedictorian of our class.

>>6997993
The philosophy guy is headed the same place as you. Honestly a lot of them are. There are only a few fields worth going to school for. The others are kind of a waste of money unless you can find a cheap school.

>>6997997
>Most jobs in America only give you 4-7 days a year.
What's it like being a slave? Seriously that's fucking terrible. I know you know that already, but god DAMN that is bad.

>>6997870
>>6997887
Thank you.
I hope I make it.

>>6998012
That's positive growth. Do you know how to read charts?

>>6998011
Everyone in my life told me to go to college. I didn't get red-pilled until my junior year really. No reason to quit with loans in my name right then and there.

>>6998034
>50K in loans
>for teaching public school

Why do you guys do it?

>>6998017
They do. And there are schools that are that cheap here too. But then you have mongoloids like OP that think college means you need to go to a big name school with a cool football team that's 20k a semester. Shit is stupid.

>>6998017
according to the white house we spend 20% of our taxes on social security. 20% on defense. The baby boomers get 21% of our taxes, with medicaid.

Education only gets 2% of our taxes.

But a lot of the people complaining about student loan debts don't know that in 25 years they're forgiven regardless of if you only pay 10% or 90% now.

>>6998034
that's 12 and a half years (ignoring the interest and the fact that your 40k salary is before taxes) that you'll be in debt. WHY?

>>6998068
It's no worse than paying a cell phone bill.

>>6998040
He said he's gonna do an accountancy bridge. Most people i've talked to who went say they don't give a fuck and are going for the experience.

>>6997833

If you have top tier talent and drive the arts are worth it if you go to a good school.

>>6998059
The population is increasing; there's not going to be any jobs which are going to LOSE positions unless it's like chimney sweeping or something. The point is engineering is growing at a rate between two-thirds and half of that of the national average, and there's already an increasing flux of engineering majors. You want the growth to be at or above the national average if you're looking for a stable job outlook.

>>6998108
>cell phone bill
You stupid goyim just don't learn, do ya? hahahha

>>6998056
You will. If you want it bad, you will. That's the hardest part. Motivation. And you also need a healthy dose of fear to keep you going. You already know what you want to do before going to college, so that's a huge plus.

I just can't stress it enough. You're the best motivator for yourself. Work like a madman. You gotta want it, you gotta believe in it, you're going to be an animator. Study everything. Animation, film, study how stories are told visually. Your classmates will fuck up while you graduate with a job in hand. That sounds good, right? Every day, fucking animate. Every summer, do an internship. (Nice if you can start your freshman year, but summer after sophomore year is fine) If there aren't alums from your school to network, contact fuckers anyway. Cold e-mail. Just make sure you get something for each summer.

>>6998108
No it definitely is. If tomorrow you decide you don't want to pay that phone bill, you'll be in debt for the next 7 years.
If you decide you don't want to pay your student loans, they never go away. EVER. Not even after bankruptcy.

>>6998102

>>6998065
Anyways, what I like about this profession is that it can spread out to so many other things. I practice sign, so maybe I can be a sign language teacher when I'm older or be a full-time interpreter/agent for my nephew when he's in high school/college. Plus, I have a part-time job right now that's sort of related to teaching (with autistic kids) so that's another field I can get into.

>mfw dropped out of university for some startup
>mfw we are failing badly
>mfw we're raising money on a 3m valuation anyway

>>6998130
Those fields are already in high demand with not enough people to fill them (because of difficulty to entry: see getting a STEM degree). So now they have positive growth. That is to say the 20 unfilled positions is becoming 30.
This isn't the same as burger flipping jobs. STEM degrees get paid well for a reason. The shit we study is hard and most people find it boring. Ask the average American what their favorite subject is and not many will say Math. I'm not worried about jobs. Everyone I talk to says they have dozens of positions open and are desperate to fill them. So once I graduate in the Fall, I'm set.

>>6997581
No it isn't, but keep trying to justify what you probably consider a Herculean effort to do something you most likely don't give a fuck about for a ton of money that your parents are probably paying so you can feel slightly a bit better about yourself.

My cousin went to Oxford to do hard sciences and he can't land a job despite getting a PhD, partly because he is a retarded idiot and partly because going to university means nothing anymore. He's also in debt. lol.

All of you just NEED a massive dick to suck/sit on and give you orders and that's why you can tolerate paying money you DON'T HAVE to do this bullshit regardless of how happy or unhappy it makes you, giving yourselves the promise that your "future salary" will be "worth it" (it won't).

Our generation is pretty fucked as it is, but if you got yourself in debt earning a worthless piece of paper instead of cultivating a unique skill or just working from the get-go, LOL @ you. In the rare instance people actually find mathematics or science interesting and want to pursue it as a career, well good luck and I hope you have fun teaching for the rest of your life.

>>6998193
That's where you're stupid though. Going to college isn't about living out your dreams or making your parents happy. It's about making money.. If anyone tells you otherwise, they probably 'study' art. You make an investment in education with the expectation of making that money back tenfold.

>>6998193
>in debt
>Oxford
You mean he's in UK-style debt or American-style debt? Because he should have only gone to do a PhD if they paid for it. I guess he did because of the retarded idiot part.

>>6998173
You forget your quote there?

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Life is great.
I plan to be a security guard because I don't really give a shit about having a ton of money and I don't want a ton of responsibility. There are other reasons I could mention, but I won't. Bam, who gives a fuck.
Don't worry about it, guys. Life goes on, and you can do anything you want to. Who actually cares? Why does it matter? There's nothing in the life of a university graduate for me. There are other ways to exist in the world. Don't listen to your parents or whoever, listen to yourself. You'll probably be okay. Nothing is worth worrying about too much.
I hope I was at least somewhat to the point. I would hate to get all preachy in my post.
Anyway, I reiterate: Life is great.

>>6998227
>get that money back
>implying paying for it AT ALL
The only people going to university (which should be only 10% of the population at best) should be totally funded to do it. We don't need plebs wasting money on stupid shit. If you're smart enough you will still get scholarships anyway.

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What's wrong with paying back student loans. It makes your credit rating good no? You can take out more loans then ya know.

It's every good christians duty to pay back their student loans so your good...our good book tells us to yes. Oy vey our banks use that very money to strengthen our economy!

So take out laarrrge loans and pay them back. And if times our tough I'm sure they understand and will let you pay back small tiny little payments so that the interest grows even longer. If anything it's a bad idea to pay them off before a decade ya know!

>>6998252
Regardless of if you borrow the money or raise it as you go, the cost is still the same (minus interest)

>>6997433 (OP)
Dropout here. I have a net worth of over five million, because you don't need a degree to invest in stocks and commodities.

>>6998270
>cost
>borrowing
>raising it yourself
You're not getting it. Before the masses started going to university here in Britain the people who did go generally got it fully paid for because they were an investment for the country's future. A lot of countries still see their university students as investments and fully fund them.

>>6998252
We need the art majors without any scholarships to pay for the physics labs and the science majors with scholarships.

Many institutes of technology have art schools precisely for this reason. It's also why state universities have such good physics programs. If they were entirely science majors, they would have to give much less scholarships. MIT and the like can pull it off because they have such large endowments.

>>6998248

I wish I went that route. I went to school for CS but have no ambition. I am going to go to school for 4 years and all I want is a 1 bedroom apartment for myself. I wont need the money

>>6998318
This is a good idea because that allows for funding without taxes.

>>6998148
>You already know what you want to do before going to college, so that's a huge plus.

Well, I've been to college. That's why I'm in this thread. Originally I went into a general college for Illustration, but became disillusioned and dropped out.

But I really want to animate. I want to draw a lot and bring stories to life. Creating stuff makes me feel good and I want to keep doing that - and I want to be great at it, too. I'm willing to pour myself into school wholly and completely if that's what it takes. I even signed up for as many credits as I could next semester to ensure I wouldn't be able to sit around on the internet and mope.

I want to be motivated. I want to break out of this rut. I know I can do it, I just have to make it real.

>>6998315
So only the aristocrats can be educated? Fuck off.

>>6997433 (OP)
i wanna drop out, but i lack the balls to do so...
The college is very far from home, the course (computer science) is not what i expected and....well...i just hate being here.

>>6997639
You do know that 30k per year is poverty and 50k per year is barely passing medium income. I'm 22 years old make 50k a year and can barely afford my life.

>College drop out
>I wish I went to college for all that crazy slutty pussies my friend that are in college talks about.

>>6998148
>You already know what you want to do before going to college, so that's a huge plus.
The whole idea of not knowing what you actually want to do WHILE already attending college sounds so fucking retarded to me. What a total waste of time and money on your part.

>>6998354
What were you expecting them to teach you to be a l337 haxor? It's computer science. You study math, a little physics, your gen ed shit a few programming classes and then computer theory. If you want more programming then pick up projects on your own.
If you don't like problem solving then switch majors.

>>6998347
>only the aristocrats
Never said that. Only the best of the commoners could though.

>>6998359
>make 50K in America
>can barely afford my life.
What's it like being so bad with money?

I dropped out because when my depression was bad I just stopped going to class and was failing anyway, and now I have $9k in debt and nothing to show for it

I'm still living with my parents, and working a part-time retail job that pays just above minimum wage

Could be worse, I'm gonna make it, I don't know how yet, but I will, just have to go with whatever happens

>>6998364
To be honest i didnt know what i was expecting.
My hole life people have told me that if i want to be someone, i need to go to college and thats what i did, i never had any dream carrer to follow, so i just picked the one who looked more interesting

>>6997471
you had me until "humanities"

>>6998359

I think that 50k number is the medium household income, not per capita income

>>6998386
This is basically me, apart from I have no debt and never went to university.

>tfw i will never work anywhere that isn't retail

>>6998359
No. Poverty is about 14k with 2 kids. Welcome to the real world. Median income is 50k in the US. You are 22 and living beyond your means.

Let's say you make 35k after your taxes and shit come out. That's about 3k a month.
800 for rent, 100 for food, 200 for a car 3-4 for utilities and what not. You've got over 1000 dollars each month left to do other shit. If you're trying to live in the heart of Manhattan or something stupid like that then we know where your money goes. Try living somewhere with a lower cost of living.

>>6998395
You were just as ignorant as the moronic immigrants in the early 1900s who thought America had roads made out of gold.

>>6998359
>30K
>poverty
Not even fucking close.

Values of the poverty thresholds for the years since 1980 for families of different sizes are available on the Census Bureau's website. The most recent values of the poverty thresholds are provided in the table below. For example, a four-person family with two children with annual cash income of $22,811 is considered poor. For one and two person family units, the poverty thresholds differ by age; an individual under age 65 with income of $11,702 qualifies as poor, whereas an individual age 65 or older is poor at $10,788 annual income.

>One person: $11,484
http://www.irp.wisc.edu/faqs/faq1.htm#thresholds

>>6998098
>college loans
>ever forgiven

I'm going to need to see some sources.

>>6997433 (OP)
how's the mcdonals job going buddy?

>>6998354
>>6998395
fuck, that's basically my life i think i'm going to fail out this year i barely went to lectures and haven't done any of the projects, passing with just my exams would be a miracle. i only cam to university because that's what my parents and school expected me to do, i didn't have anything i particularly wanted to do so i choose CS basically at random as there should be a good career and i thought it might be interesting, but now i can hardly get out of bed in the morning, i think i'll join the army once i fail

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Failed med student here. Didn't do well enough, so now I'm doing a degree that's more about the administration side of health care, health care from a non-clinical perspective. I hate it so fucking much. I barely pass half my papers and just fail the other. I can't work up the motivation to study. I had a 2,500 word assignment due yesterday which I just didn't even hand in. I got up to date on the second season of Oreimo instead. I want to quit, but I don't know what I'd do if I'm quitting and I hope this degree can get me on to something in mental health. Being depressed probably doesn't help with my motivation.

>>6998405
well, it was the pressure, you know, i was finishing high school, everyone kept asking me about college and stuff, i just didnt know what else to do. I was raised with the mindset that if you dont go to college, you will be a nobody poorfag

>>6998382
You have no idea. Escorts are so damn expensive, so are the drugs. I can barely afford myself 3 escorts for a weekend, drugs and a house for only us. I met this guy who says he does 100k a year and he doesn't have time to spend it. He works 6 days a week and 12 to 14 hours a day.

Best thing would be to make 150k a year and work 32 hours a week. Even 40 hours a week is too much. It doesn't give us enough time to appreciate the day.

>>6998448
I'm glad people like you exist to tell the horror stories of CS. It means no new faggots will want to jump into the major unless they're really serious about it. This is the reason I will always have a job.

>minimum wagers make around 15,000 a year
>4 year degree costs around 30,000 if you go to smaller colleges
>that doesn't count your "ehhh i changed my mind year" when you switch majors most students go through
>people with 4 year degrees are struggling just to get minimum wage jobs

Man the baby boomers running the banks had the right idea. This way an entire generation is pretty much enslaved to the lenders for the rest of their life.

It's pretty simple to. Over sale the value of a degree so everyone gets one, then over saturate the market so that they can't pay the loans off in timely manners and they rake in a ton of interest.

hell CitiBank made a killing just selling the debt accounts not too long ago. It's too bad they set up a bubble that most people agree is going to pop fairly soon as more and more students are defaulting.

it'll be interesting seeing most major metropolitan areas end up like Detroit while only the elite few STEMs rule over them. Bright times ahead friends. We'll be on top soon enough.

>>6998193
What kind of idiot pays to get their PhD? Hell for that matter what idiot pays for any graduate school?

>>6998465
Like I said, living beyond your means. And like a nigger apparently. You know if you saved that 1000 plus a month instead of buying hookers, women would naturally flock to you. And probably at a discount.

>>6998402
You don't understand I was born and raised in this city. It's like asking a real New Yorker to move to New Jersey because it's cheaper. I would prefer to die than to move to the suburbs.

>>6998498
And die you just might. Seriously though if you don't make that kind of money why are you trying to live there? At least get a roommate.

>>6998498
>>6998465
Is this a troll, Anon? Are you trolling us?

>SOCIAL SKILLS NETWORKING CONNECTION HURRRR
>every job ever
I understand the importance of these skills but it seems like they require a certain high level of it from everyone which is asinine. you don't expect the janitor the secretary and the engineer to all have the same skill set. I don't understand why they don't just throw me in the back and give me something tedious and unpleasant to do, that way all of the middle aged women can gossip about their dogs and I can have something to do to stay busy all day. You'd think they'd love someone who'd work like that.
I should have gone to tech school. my best friend in middle school was always a little slow, so he went to tech high school, now i think he makes about ten times as much as me although i make like 6k a year

>>6998486
I already have discounts. If I buy 3 escorts he gives me some free drugs. I don't need companionship I just need sex. And I'm not aiming at living past the age of 50, nor 40.

>>6998458
This, I went to college because everyone ever told me that I had to do it and it was basically expected of me and I didn't want to disappoint my parents

I'm sure they're more disappointed now that I dropped out, but hindsight is 20/20

Either I'll go to trade school and pick up some useful skill, go back to college when I'm like 25 or 30 and be one of those guys, or maybe something I cannot possibly foresee now, like becoming a manager at my retail job or something, will happen, but I'm sure no matter what I'm going to be fine in the long run

I'll probably never be wealthy, but as long as I'm not impoverished or homeless that's fine

>>6998534
Who said anything about companionship? Normal women will fuck you and leave just like a hooker if you find the right ones.

>>6998444
Obamas new Income-Base Repayment plan.

Basically you pay depending on how much you earn. After 25 years regardless it's all forgiven. You need to qualify and you'll need to send annual reports and make consistent payments but if you're making shit pay and it's obvious that you'll never pay your loans back on your current income after 25 years it's forgiven.

http://studentaid.ed.gov/repay-loans/understand/plans/income-based

>>6998341
Ah. A second try? Two years doing science, two years graphic design, two years NEET here. Same boat as you are. Need to up my skill and get a job. You can do it, man. That wasted time, let it motivate you. Knowing you should've done this in the first place, keep that fire going. It's fucking scary because now you know you're completely responsible for any fuck-up in the future. But that's good because now you know just how much motivation and work it takes to overcome that fear. You can do it.

>>6998504
I wish sometimes I was born in a regular house in the suburbs with a dog and my best friend all living in the same street.

>>6998563
Well shit. Now to wait and see how they fuck it up I guess. Can't be letting americans have a break.

>>6998563
that's the system we have in the uk, it works pretty well

>>6998456
You do the best you can. I'm a failed dentalfag. Would you have been happy if you had gone on with medical school? Do you think you'd enjoy being a doctor? Knowing at least that's not what you want to do is good. Gotta stay up. Don't think of what you do now as an end. It's a start to somewhere you want to go. Something more tolerable. Keep at it.

>>6998563
Oh boy now I'll be debt-free when I'm retired!

>>6998550
Why would I want to fuck a normal women when I could get numerous 10/10 at the push of a button on their knees? I'm just saying that 50k is not enough for some of our lifestyle. So even if you make 100k maybe you won't be happy with it. You don't know what life may throw at you and money is the only way to fix our current world problem.

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do not give up on a girlfriend.

for 24 years I tried, no hope what so ever and then....
boom baby, score....

you will find your way, no matter what

gr T.

>>6998541
i think this is just another sweet side effect of being sheltered as fuck. thanks mom.
>>6998498
0/10 was not rused
>>6998666
is that a dude

>>6998666
So how many people are you gonna kill when she dumps you?

>>6998632
It's just for fuck ups and those of us that drop out to get on autism bux.

Most people, even if they drop out and just go into retail, will make enough money to pay it off before they turn 60. Especially if they find a place and stay there and climb their way up to middle management if not outright management.

>>6998639
You're the worst kind of nigger. I hope you lose your job.

I'm very lucky...

Non the less a robot for sure, no girl for 24 years...

I am all outa luck here and very happy.

learnt every thing from kissing till sex from her.

gr T.

>>6998800
Why are you getting mad at me? It's not good to have hate. Wan't to talk about it? It'll probably make you feel good.

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>>6998626
>Would you have been happy if you had gone on with medical school? Do you think you'd enjoy being a doctor?
I wanted to be a psychiatrist.
>Don't think of what you do now as an end. It's a start to somewhere you want to go. Something more tolerable. Keep at it.
I don't want to do anything really.

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>>6998833
>drop out
>only options I have are retail and fast food
>want to sell drugs
>never even done let alone bought drugs though and have no idea how to do it
>oh well

we have been togheter for 3 years now.
Happy as fuck as long as you do what she says :)

Beyond that sex as a boss, because she is happy...

works like a charme, every time

>>6998932
>>6998833
Woops. Didn't mean to quote you guy.

>>6998833
I don't want to do anything either. But you gotta do something. That's us, a whole generation, whether we like it or not. It sucks, but. Yeah, it sucks. Can't NEET forever though.

>>6998572
>It's fucking scary because now you know you're completely responsible for any fuck-up in the future.

Couldn't be more true.
Thank you, again. I sincerely appreciate it.

Come on,

I am a drop-out from the Netherlands..
No worries here,

Work hard and with confindence so the boss appreciates you.

Find a girl and keep her, because she loves you no matter what happens.

economics sucks here in the EU but the girl stays

T.

>>6998986
You know that saying? We're all gonna make it brahs? As much as it makes me cringe, it's fucking true. You're going to be great. Never falter.

>>6998932
not just directed at you, but why do robots think they could ever do this? it's not about the 'accounting', it's about the social nuances and connections.

>>6999017
i like the attitude, but this is a place of misery. there's nothing good for you here.

>>6999074
You're going to make me cry and then I'll get all rusty.

I hope you never lose your footing on the trail.

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>>6998952
I don't even want to be a NEET honestly. I find the NEET lifestyle depressing. I don't know what I want. I find everything repugnant. I can't think of a career I'd want to do though. I literally have no idea. The only thing I'd want to do is be a psychiatrist but I'm too dumb for that.

Do you think so... 3 years already.
It was hard work all the way.

A lot of bitching and nagging but a came too a comprimise everytime.

Better off than without.

27 now but happier with herr than without.

sorry for the bad languages but i'm from the netherlands

>>6999169
It's just nice to know that among all the fuck-ups in our generation, there are still people who try and dream of doing something with their lives. They know it's bleak, but they don't give up. That's what matters. This is great. I'm glad you're on track. Gives me hope. Because I know there are more dudes not just on /r9k/ but out there, doing the same thing.

This is getting to a circle jerk level, so I should stop, haha. Once we all make it, then we can tackle tfw no gf. Hahaha.

>>6999173
Ah, I forgot you weren't. Hey, man, you're doing something at least, which is great. Although I'm guilty of it myself, I think it's too dangerous to seek fulfillment in a job. The kind that changes your life and makes you who you are. It's nice to find one, but it's rare. The best we can do, especially the ones on /r9k/ who are introspective, is to find a job that's tolerable. It sounds bad, but it gives you independence and time to pursue that passion on the side.

Are there other professions in psychiatry that you can go into? Something related to the field? It's fucking hard, I know. But just something, it's gotta be something, a start.

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>>6999368
> It sounds bad, but it gives you independence and time to pursue that passion on the side.
The problem is when you're working 40+ hours a week you don't have time for much else.
>Are there other professions in psychiatry that you can go into?
I might go into counselling. I just want to help people like the kind of people who post on /r9k/

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>>6998932
>Dropped out of highschool
>Started selling weed
>Making less than working at mcdonalds
>Step up the game nigga
>Get out there and make some connects
>Find a guy who knows a guy and got MDMA at a great price
>The profit margin is insane, making about 300 dollars every day or so sometimes more
>Got high every day, knew everyone, easy money never had to work hard
>My connects phone turns off one day
>I still call the number sometimes, never turned back on
>Went to his place, he's gone
>No job, no way to pay for the apartment I was living in, no way to pay for shit
>Move back in with parents

It's a fun game, selling drugs, but completely unreliable in more ways than you'd imagine, getting arrested and all.

Glad to see so many who feel my pain

>got out of high school
>parents forced me into college
>clueless on life, took a bunch of shitty liberal arts classes
>failed
>parents both passed away suddenly
>dropped out of college
>10 grand in loans
>6 years later pretty sure all my credits are gone now
>finally have the urge to continue my education but got no money and bad credit
>25 years old and working the same old dead end job

I wish I could find a 2 year school and get something good out of it.. enough to buy a house. All I can seem to find something of interest would be an electrician school

>>6999512
>I might go into counselling. I just want to help people like the kind of people who post on /r9k/

then you want clinical psychology, not psychiatry. fuck it, knowing some robots even forensic psych might be worth looking in to. i was a few days from applying for a psych masters as a stepping stone to the phd/d.clin.psy but i've since figured that you'll never get rich working for somebody else and going that route will take years (and years, and years) to pay off due to it being a ridiculously crowded field. i do love the subject and being a therapist and helping people is something i'd love to have to fall back on.
the plan now though is to save up for a few years and start a freelance photography business. gotta be my own boss.

>>6999927
>oh and i'm 2 weeks off finishing uni with a marketing degree. don't ask...

>get?

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>>6999927
>then you want clinical psychology, not psychiatry.
No, I wanted psychiatry. I have an interest in medicine and physiology as well, particularly in regards to mental health. Therapy is something to fall back on. I was under the impression that clinical psych was more of a research thing.

>>6999312
>This is getting to a circle jerk level
Sometimes I think /r9k/ could do a lot better with just a little bit of love.

But not too much love.

n-no homo

>>7000065
ah, ok, in my mind psychiatrist=pill pusher. quicker to jump to 'here take these drugs, i forgot what they're called, let me see what it says on my pen' than trying therapy which may be more effective and certainly less damaging.

>>7000065
Your medicine is poison and for every 1 person that you help you saddle 10 with something that either is ineffective, causes an addiction, causes health issues both mental and physical, and you sell it to them at a not too low price either.

Pick something else if you actually would like to help people, like going outside and looking for someone who needs someone to talk to and doing it. Or helping actual people with their problems rather than just talking to them about it. This is all coming from someone who has been to a therapist only a few times and had a mild experience. I've just always attracted people with problems and I've very good at helping people and people with problems tell me of their experiences with this sort of thing and it's 90% negative. I do all of this with no degree, by the way.

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>>7000174
>Your medicine is poison and for every 1 person that you help you saddle 10 with something that either is ineffective, causes an addiction, causes health issues both mental and physical
This shows a massive ignorance towards psychiatry as a profession.
>and you sell it to them at a not too low price either.
I live in a country with socialist healthcare.

Dropped out of college after one and a half semesters.

One of the best decisions I've ever made. Saved myself from massive debt, and am now in a decent paying apprenticeship.

>>7000205
An apprenticeship in what? Please don't say something hands on...

>>7000242

Electrician.

Pretty hands on, but not nearly as physically demanding as other skilled trades

>>7000196
Why don't you tell me how I'm wrong.

Actually you're right. I won't listen. You can show me all your books and statistics I don't care man I know how ignorant that sounds. But I've seen your victims. The fact that you know how many people are hurt by your medicine, even if it helps a few, should make you want to help people in other ways.

What you're going to do is terrible and there's no way I'll be able to convince you of it, so this post is an appeal to your emotions. If you really are a good person you'll heed my warning.

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>>7000295
>But I've seen your victims. The fact that you know how many people are hurt by your medicine, even if it helps a few, should make you want to help people in other ways.
I'm guessing your American. Your entire healthcare system is ass backwards, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's the same for psychiatry as well.
>If you really are a good person you'll heed my warning.
It's not my desire that's keeping me out of psychiatry, it's me being stupid.

>>7000295
Also, I'm a drug addict I know quite a bit about pharmacology and I know a lot of the people that are prescribed this stuff because I always needed to in order to be able to bum meds.

My mom was a nurse too, and she studied psychiatry but didn't go through with it out for this very reason. Don't say I'm not aware of your profession, I have more experience than you do.

>>7000332
Lets hope you stay stupid then. Stupid head.

>30k tuition private school + room
>only 13k paid by scholarship
>tfw debt
>incoming junior
>failed a class and scholarship about to drop
>have to pay to retake it
>55 credits in, 5 credits behind because I dropped a class second semester

Should I just drop out now?

University is all about what you put into it. I'm a STEM graduate (EE), and I think I can really speak on this whole idea that "just graduating" is good enough nowadays. This is completely wrong and I think more people need to be aware that simply graduating from an EE program doesn't mean if you: A. didn't network/ do coop ; B. didn't have a stellar GPA with some work experience.

If you don't fit into one of those two categories, the job offers are not going to come crawling in. I have friends of all types: kids who didn't work, average grades; great grades no work; bad grades no work; etc. All of those people had trouble finding jobs, even though their degree is heralded as "instant job after grad".

Basically, STEM degree is definitely not worth the fucking money if you're just scraping by or not thinking about some way you can be an asset to a company post grad.

EE grad

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>>7000372
>Stupid head.
pls no bullying
>>7000337
>I know quite a bit about pharmacology
Psychiatry isn't pharmacology. Drugs most certainly play a role, particularly in cases where mental illness cripples regular daily activities, not on the level of say depression, but on the level when you need to be locked up in a ward as a danger to yourself and others drugs become mandatory, but in other cases drugs are often used as a supplementary therapy to assist with other therapies. Furthermore, in cases where mental illness is solely a defect in the brain, then it needs to be cured with drugs or even surgery, just as in any other case where an organ is defect.

>>7000472
>just graduating
Tell me about it. These people who cruise by on 50% (the absolute minimum pass mark here) and then expect to get a job are insane.

>>7000536

>tfw dont care about school
>tfw dont 2.7 gpa
>tfw you get a CS internship so you will have experience so nobody will care about your gpa

>>7000572
>internship
What about a real job?

>>7000572
I'm >>7000472

Every entry level position I've applied for has requested my GPA. I'm not saying that you can't get into a job with a shit GPA, but your chances are significantly lowered.

>>7000596
>>7000638

Are they gonna care after I have actual experience? Plus I am gonna lie

>>7000501
That's what every therapist who gave all of everyone I knew drugs thought. Exactly that.

I don't want to argue with you, I spent a lot of time writing a big post about how this is all just wrong stuff. But don't do it man. I don't want to argue. Don't get mixed up in this stuff.

>>7000658
You dont get it though. GPA is a screening tool. When you apply to a position - which will most likely be done through an online portal - you will be asked to enter your GPA. I guarantee you that if your GPA doesn't meet a certain point, your application won't even make it to HR.

You're gonna need some HR emails son

>>7000698
therapist pharmacologist psychologist psychiatrist what the fuck ever. I don't recommend you getting mixed up in this shitty system.

>>7000699
This is true. GPA is just one of those things like pre-interview questionnaires that filter out candidates for HR because they are lazy as fuck.

>>7000699

What is to stop me from lying?

>>7000744
The fact that they'll check... and then you will be fired and blacklisted.

>>7000744
Well, you can play that game if you wish. Just hope transcripts aren't requested at a later stage.

>>6997433 (OP)
Yep. Got sick one semester, ended up in the hospital for a few weeks and failed all my classes. The college instituted a new system where when you retake the class, it doesn't overwrite the old one it just bumps your GPA up a bit so I got fucked out of college. Now I work for a bank and all of my friends who are graduated can't find a job. I guess I won.

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>>7000698
Perhaps you should just educate yourself instead of believing your "drugs r bad" nonsense.

>>7000862
The only drug that I've ever had cure me or anyone I knews depression was LSD or Psilocybin, so little side effects too. SSRIs and MAOIs are absolute shit. I don't think drugs are bad, but your drugs are bad. Everyone I know who took antipsychotics always said how they regretted letting their people talk them into it and they regret the health damage and the way it changed their mind. Everyone I knew who took shit SSRIs and stuff never said, "Well my depression went away forever once I took this drug and now I'm better!". Plus, why would you want a drug like that, one that hurts your body and you have to take it everyday to make you happy because a doctor told you so.

Also, I'm aware of how stupid that makes me sound in your mind. Le hippie stupid guy on the internet. But I probably helped more people by selling them MDMA, a shitty drug, than anyone could with that shit. But that's not saying much.

You can make any argument too, but I have the experience of actually helping people and you just can't take that away from me. I almost consider myself a rogue physiatrist or whatever, names like that are stupid I just want to help people. That's what I suggested from the start, you don't need a degree to get out and help people.

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>>7001081
>SSRIs and MAOIs are absolute shit.
Drugs are catered for specific circumstances. It's not their fault if they are over-prescribed. For example selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors are effective when depression is caused by the faulty reuptake of serotinin causing less available serotonin to the proper synapses. If you don't have that condition then SSRIs will do shit all for your depression. The problem isn't the drug or the industry but rather the diagnosis. I assure you, the case groups where SSRIs have been shown to work is far larger and more controlled than your case groups.

>>7001209
>>7000862
How many of those fucking drinking images do you have? Holy hell.

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>>7001267
Enough. About 200 or so individual files. I'm from /a/

>tfw neet took a year to travel
>Been around the world
>can't into jobs
>Still have dreams of making it big

All I want s to give my mother an easy lifestyle

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>>7001209
They work as long as they continue taking SSRIs. Gosh. You're no fun.

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>>7001336
So something is invalidated as medication if it is a permanent treatment? People with diabetes type 1 need to take frequent insulin shots throughout their entire lives, but that doesn't invalidate insulin as medicine. We're constantly making advancements in pharmacology but you can't rush it.

>>7001209
The problem with SSRIs is that only one part of the brain needs serotonin induction in most cases of depression. SSRIs flood the majority of one's neural system, causing imbalances in areas not in need of it.

Just an addendum to what this guy said.

Natural secretion far surpasses synthetic, i.e. following one's bioloigcal and evolutionary routes. The farther we stray from nature, the less able we are to survive. The earth is ~3/4 water, so should people be. Our ancestors spent all day in the sun, which actually regulates the quite a few of our neurotransmitters. Being active also causes secretion. The earth is always in sunlight, the earth is constantly moving; so should we almost be. A fan of holistic cures, obvsly

>>7001436
roots* whoops

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Aw yea nigga, on probation from CSUF here and I'm actually faring pretty well.

Actually, better than pretty well.
>living with parents still but not terrible
>working at Target part time
>tons of free time
>started trying psychedelics
>lost my virginity
>lost weight
>got into meditation
>becoming less socially awkward
>de-stressing because no school

I never realized how stressed I REALLY was until I dropped out of school. Such a relief.

Shit, this thread is done for.

>>6997552
How'd you get into that?

>>6997561
Because the job market for Theoretical Physicists is so desperate right now.
Studying shit like this will only just get you a research/teaching job, everywhere else will go "wow physics" and then say you are overqualified.

>>7000472

well what's better having a degree in a STEM major with a bad gpa or not having a degree at all?

I'm pretty sure it's just better to have the degree.

>>7002596
This is fucking MIT

Not some localstate school but MIT

>tfw much happier after dropping out of uni and getting a mediocre job without significant career progression (but decent savings)

I have maybe 7k debt but the money to pay it off, so I don't worry about it. Problem is that I have no ambition and no legit career appeals to me. I can't imagine enjoying any work, so I'm a bit too comfortable with an average job.

Actually I've been wondering, is that a dealbreaker in a girlfriend? I don't care about my boyfriend's job or finances if he can take care of himself, but I'm worried that he might care about my complete and utter lack of ambition.