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    63 KB Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:13:22 No.9560561  
    So /r9k/,
    I have to write an exam about him
    Since I live in Germany, I have no idea either about him or the US-American state system.

    Let's start with the reason why everyone hates that man?
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:14:42 No.9560571
    He used our Constitution to wipe his ass.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:15:44 No.9560578
    They hate him because he retaliated when America was attacked. Thank god Barack Hussein Obama wouldn't do that, he's on the muslims' side.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:16:49 No.9560585
    >>9560578
    >guaranteed 200 replies

    Stop being a dick to the poor kraut.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:16:52 No.9560586
    >>9560561
    Were have you been these past 9 years?
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:17:14 No.9560589
    No Child Left Behind.

    Look it up.

    www.en.wikipedia.germany/no_child_left_behind
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:18:07 No.9560594
    He was President when we got ourselves into Vietnam 2: Electric Boogaloo.

    /thread
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:18:11 No.9560597
    Nation building
    Not well-spoken for a president
    etc.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:18:18 No.9560598
    We'd basically have to write an essay to give you the information. Go look on Google or something
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:18:49 No.9560601
    Just seemed like a stupid guy to me, said a lot of silly things.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:20:41 No.9560616
    >>9560578
    lol

    He was mobilizing troops to the middle east before the attack. That's why he never caught Bin Laden, and instead he went after Saddam. He was all like "Imma finnish mah daddy's job". Now we are in a war that is longer than Vietnam, and with a higher mortality rate.

    The bastard was as much of a terrorist as the fucksticks that piloted those planes.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:21:09 No.9560620
    >>9560601
    I think you are just misunderestimating him.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:21:14 No.9560622
    People dislike the Bush/Cheney administration because of their disregard for Constitutional laws and general good sense in issues such as personal privacy, national security, environmental protection, and occupation of foreign nations/responding to supposed nuclear threats.

    Also, public opinion turned strongly against Bush due to the failings of the Iraq War, in which very little apparent progress was made compared to the huge amount of financial, industrial, and human resources put into it.
    >> Douchebag !!zuWFk16Euy5 06/17/10(Thu)12:22:35 No.9560638
    Where are Hussein's hidden ABC-weapons?
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:22:43 No.9560642
    >>9560616
    >and with a higher mortality rate.

    Higher than Vietnam? Bullshit. You must be some kind of acid tripping hippie.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:22:46 No.9560644
    he doesn't care about black people
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:23:14 No.9560647
    >>9560638
    Hidden.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:26:16 No.9560672
    >>9560594
    Gulf War 2 : Shit this will drag on and on and on and...why are we still here again?
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:28:53 No.9560697
    OP HERE

    >>9560622
    So what bad thing had he actually done, or has he done, depending if the affects are still there (like the war)

    What exactly makes him one of the most hated people on the world?

    I read about the population complaining about their privacy, but well, I say it's something you have to deal with if you want safety. You can't have full safety AND full privacy, more of the one means less of the other. And I assume USA is not the only country with that problem

    And the Iraq war? Starting with the 11th September 2009. Is it because he started war? But I read he started war to create a social democracy in Iraq, to end the dictatorship, and if they won't listen to words some people have to listen to the violence.

    I must admit, I'm not a very smart man if it comes to politics, so this is a very difficult topic for me, and I appreciate every bit of help that comes from you
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:35:56 No.9560748
    >>9560697
    >I read about the population complaining about their privacy, but well, I say it's something you have to deal with if you want safety. You can't have full safety AND full privacy, more of the one means less of the other. And I assume USA is not the only country with that problem

    I'll let Benjamin Franklin explain this issue to you.

    >"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:38:24 No.9560770
    >>9560585
    Damn. Since when have people started to read the email field? Gonna troll harder and without clues in a few hours.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:39:35 No.9560779
    >>9560770
    Not all of us are completely fucking retarded.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:41:02 No.9560791
    >>9560748
    I understand the quote in its full meaning but you can't change the fact that it's not possible to provide safety to a whole county without somehow disturbing their privacy.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:42:54 No.9560804
    Everyone hates him. He was a massive spender (don't believe anyone who calls him a rightist) and he stamped all over our civil liberties. Basically he was Stalin.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:43:19 No.9560809
    >>9560748
    That quote is a common defense but misunderstood. He meant the government taking your guns and free speech, not security measures that spy on you for the purpose of keeping you safe.

    Americans voted Obama in hoping he would repeal it, and he didn't. They just assumed he would be different than bush.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:43:55 No.9560814
    He sacrificed his reputation and presidency to do what was right. He was simply one of the players in the chess game to determine which power will control the majority of the oil. I highly doubt Europe would want to once again be held by the tail by Russian oil.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:47:23 No.9560833
    >>9560791
    >you can't change the fact that it's not possible to provide safety to a whole county without somehow disturbing their privacy.

    So the solution would be to not provide safety.

    >>9560814
    This would only hold weight if we were actually doing something to secure the oil. However we aren't, and frankly that pisses me off.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:47:27 No.9560834
    >>9560748

    ITT: Tinfoil hat wearing Alex jones nutjobs. We happen to live in the most free nation on Earth. Go to Europe where guns are outlawed and take 75% of your income.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:49:30 No.9560858
    >>9560833

    We have a large military presence in oil regions that no other nation would dare challenge.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:50:34 No.9560870
    >>9560834
    Its amazing how simply quoting Ben motherfuckin' Franklin suddenly makes me a conspiracy hypothesist.

    Its almost as if you are full of shit.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:51:18 No.9560878
    george bush seems like a bro, not a good leader but a cool guy. do you think he fucked interns?
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:53:17 No.9560890
    >>9560858
    >regions that no other nation would dare challenge
    China or Russia would dare to challenge Iraq or any other shithole. The war in Iraq would be okay if the US was actively leeching off every drop of oil, but they're just standing around and doing nothing. Lern2exploit.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:53:27 No.9560894
    We enjoy the same, if not more liberties than ever before in American history. I just can't understand the conspiracy theorists who have been spewing the same rhetoric about having your door kicked in and your rights revoked since forever.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:53:54 No.9560897
    >>9560858
    But we aren't doing anything with it. In fact we are supposed to be lessening out presence. Now if we were forcing the Iraqis to sell it to us at $50/bbl and load it onto our tankers then we would be getting something out of it.

    The whole war has been a giant boondoggle even if you think it was to try and control oil.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:54:02 No.9560900
    >>9560834
    Not economically, I'm afraid:
    http://heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:56:14 No.9560913
    The American government has always had a policy of conducting operations covertly. This is not a matter of invading a country and forcing oil to be sold (enter fixed amount here) per barrel at gunpoint. This was all about ensuring we mean business and not allowing the Chinese or Russians to get there first.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:57:45 No.9560924
    >>9560834

    Guns aren't outlawed in Europe you fuckwit, you just need a license to own one. Income tax is nowhere near 75% where did you get that figure from?
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)12:58:22 No.9560933
    >>9560890

    This would indeed get America labeled as a international imperialist. What you describe here is being done covertly with under the table meetings and so forth.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:00:27 No.9560951
    >>9560924
    Guns ARE outlawed in Belgium and the UK, actually. Completely. The taxes are 50% and they tax you for everything. EVERYTHING is taxed, food, petroleum, cars, breathing air and that kind of stuff.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:00:49 No.9560956
    >>9560834
    http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/articles/guns-crime-swiss.html
    Read the article, then realize many Americans apparently can't handle the responsibility of owning a gun.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:01:45 No.9560969
    Most don't like him because he didn't care about shit. He became President to become President. He let his friends do whatever they wanted because he just didn't care.
    Most people categorize Georgie as an ESTJ:
    He wasn't interested in much, and did what he thought he needed to do, not should have done.
    >> South !.4rae6q.C. 06/17/10(Thu)13:01:50 No.9560971
    >>9560890
    I think what that anon you were responding to meant was that no other nation would dare challenge the military presence there, not referring to the country itself.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:01:55 No.9560972
    >>9560924

    An American can legally own assault weapons that could be used to enforce the 2nd amendment as the fore fathers intended. You won't be putting down an oppressive government with your daddy's .22
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:03:59 No.9560996
    Just look at events like Ruby Ridge or at Waco Texas. Sure, these guys were nut jobs but it just shows that a properly armed group of Americans could put up a show of force.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:06:19 No.9561023
    >>9560956

    It is just the result of not living in a nanny state where the government holds even holds your penis when you have to urinate.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:07:12 No.9561037
    >>9560951
    >guns outlawed in the UK

    That isn't actually true. They have shotguns and single shot rifles and some aborted pistols.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:08:22 No.9561056
    >>9561023
    So you're saying... you need to live in a nanny state where ...etc etc. to prevent folks from becoming criminals?

    I sure hope they have clean hands.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:08:55 No.9561061
    >>9560972
    >assault weapons
    >enforcing the 2nd amendment as the fore fathers intended

    This is what Americans actually believe.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:10:05 No.9561079
    >Let's start with the reason why everyone hates that man?

    It's simple. Find out why the minority love him and you'll have your answer.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:10:37 No.9561087
    >>9561056

    When you live in a nanny state essentially everything is provided for you free of cost. This greatly reduces the need to engage in criminal behavior to obtain things.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:11:18 No.9561098
    >>9561061
    Not the anon you were replying to but:

    Second amendment
    >A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
    I suppose you could debate on whether assault rifles fit in "a well regulated militia". Now I'm not pro-firearms in any way, personally, but I doubt that really matters here. The second amendment, apparently, isn't half as clear as it looks at first sight. (e.g. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/data/constitution/amendment02/ )
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:12:43 No.9561114
    >>9560972
    Assault weapon is a meaningless term liberals made up. I believe the term you meant was assault rifle, and no, without going through tons of federal red tape you cannnot own an assault rifle. No, that 600 dollar semi auto knock off AR-15 you saw is not an assault rifle. An assault rifle has select fire, meaning you can pick semi-auto or either burst fire, full auto, or both. Burst fire and/or full auto put it afoul of gun control laws from the 30's.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:13:52 No.9561128
    The "well regulated militia" means armed private citizens not the federal military.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:14:31 No.9561137
    >>9561061
    >i havent read any of the letters or articles written by the founding fathers
    newfag
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:15:54 No.9561156
    >>9561087
    I think I agree with you there, but I'll play devil's advocate here.
    While many European countries are regarded ultra-nanny state by many Americans, I do wonder if it's all as black and white as this discussion often makes it seem:
    If you have a state, operating from a liberal perspective but providing incentives for the weak(er) people in society to develop their own potential, would that immediately be a nanny state? I think it's quite possible to address people's will to accomplish and grant them the freedom to do so, while still making sure the weakest don't get completely left behind. So yes, taxation and legislation to control certain aspects of society but provide opportunities as opposed to force people to take them.
    I wonder if there's a middle ground somewhere.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:16:27 No.9561167
    >>9561114
    >Burst fire and/or full auto put it afoul of gun control laws from the 30's.

    No, the NFA of 1934 is just a $200 tax. The law you are thinking of is the FOPA of 1986 which required the registration of all machine guns and then closed the registry.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:17:29 No.9561183
    The majority of the crime committed in European countries are by immigrants who are generally not covered by the nanny state programs.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:19:03 No.9561203
    >>9561167
    You are correct and I realized my error as I clicked submit.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)13:39:24 No.9561465
    >>9560951

    Excuse me, but I live in the United Kingdom, and everything you said is complete fabrication. You're either a bad troll, or you need to go back to /k/.
    >> Inaxio !Z3oKkAJ/3U 06/17/10(Thu)13:40:27 No.9561474
    >>9560561
    he was a real dissapointment, i think. bush sr. was great, but his son... not so much
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)19:30:34 No.9565521
    Also , George W. Bush twisted existing laws and statues in such a way that he created a concept called the Unitary Executive theory. No wonder he's was also called "The Decider".
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)19:35:33 No.9565584
    Iraq
    No Child Left Behind
    Iraq
    Faith based initiative
    Iraq
    Abstinence only sex ed
    Iraq
    Mexico City Policy
    Iraq
    Opposition to the Kyoto protocol
    Did I mention that he lied about Iraq in order to illegally invade and throw away thousands of lives for nothing?
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)19:36:24 No.9565602
    >>9560834

    I don't think anyone actually listens to Alex Jones unless they're looking for tips on trolling.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)19:37:00 No.9565609
    He continued bank deregulation policies which lead to that whole "near catastrophic collapse" thing.
    He gave tax breaks to outsourcing corporations which took jobs out of the country.
    He invaded Iraq for almost no reason.
    His tax breaks did nothing but put the country in massive debt.
    His entire cabinet was made up of corporate cronies.
    Guantonomo
    Patriot Act
    No child left behind

    And on top of all this he was just an awful, awful speaker.
    "Too many OB/GYN's aren't able to..practice their love with women all across this country!"
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)19:38:22 No.9565631
    People were mad at Bush because Barack wasn't president yet. Now he is and its plain to see how America's presidency is a big pot of piss.
    >> Anonymous 06/17/10(Thu)19:43:53 No.9565705
    >>9560697
    ya you are basically completely ignorant and have no clue what is going on. but thats ok, you are in good company, many are just like you unfourtunately.
    keep in mind bush is simply a puppet, just like a king. he really does nothing but read speeches not written by him and signs papers that others tell him to. Oh and he was part of skull and bones society of yale.
    everything people are attributing to him in this thread were not actually his idea.
    i would suggest you write about where he came from, along with his family, who he is related to and how he got to be president and how he is a depressed aloholic now.



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