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    572 KB Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)16:55:21 No.9346360  
    Do you think we will see futuristic cities like this one in our lives?
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)16:56:05 No.9346370
    I say no man.
    >> Douchebag !!zuWFk16Euy5 06/05/10(Sat)16:58:04 No.9346401
    No.
    Because my life ends soon.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)16:58:10 No.9346403
    No.
    A project that large would span generations.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)16:58:23 No.9346408
    Nope. Maybe in 2200 though. So unless we find a way to transcend humanity's finite existence there is no way you will see cities like that.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:01:34 No.9346460
    You will never have a robotic arm ;_;
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:03:05 No.9346477
    Would need to asteroid mine before we could acquire such masses of materials but yes its possible. The poor will live below the high rise level, and blocked from the sun.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:03:49 No.9346481
    >ITT bitches don't know bout exponential growth.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:08:31 No.9346539
    >>9346481
    Irrelevant, as building it would take at least one generation. ~80 years.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:10:00 No.9346562
    Well you see son, there is this thing called religion. It causes more problems than not.
    Flying cars will never exist in your lifetime boy, as you grow, the people of earth will find more ways to kill each other because of their opposing beliefs and you will forever live in a warzone of people misinterpreting a book of something that might well not exist.

    Goodnight, see you in the morning son.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:10:27 No.9346569
    I don't even think a structure like that would be financially viable or practical.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:11:57 No.9346590
    no, because cities like that are built by exploiting natural resources, the resources we need to, you know, live

    if we keep up the direction we're going, it's the caves for us
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:13:15 No.9346609
    >>9346562
    you're not my dad...are you?

    ...dad?
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:13:16 No.9346610
    So how do you all see the world when we're 40? In about 20 years.
    >> DeepandEdgy !pSkjEcB9sQ 06/05/10(Sat)17:14:08 No.9346626
    No. Because it wouldn't be futuristic if you were around when it was built. It would be 'modern'.
    >> Trip Hop !HP05gKEXZ. 06/05/10(Sat)17:14:18 No.9346629
    >>9346610
    More oil wars. power outages. High technology which uses less power.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:15:13 No.9346646
    >>9346360
    >>9346360
    >>9346360

    A city ontop of a city? No we don't wee that, mostly because we're not overpopulated yet, I'm sure we'll see this in the next 100 years.

    It's a great design though
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:16:34 No.9346660
    >>9346360

    Good luck finding someone to pay for those huge superstructures, even assuming they're a good idea. The corporations would never try anything that grand.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:17:12 No.9346667
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    >>9346460
    >Implying
    http://www.physorg.com/news175354299.html
    Watch the video.

    I dunno if cities will be that cool OP, but there are some already pretty awesome cities that are making massive improvements. Pic related.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:17:42 No.9346677
    Relevant

    http://blog.zeemp.com/40-awesome-futuristic-city-illustrations/
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:17:59 No.9346680
    newsflash OP: your future is in the mail.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:25:51 No.9346810
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    I'm not one for fantasy at all, but I have always dreamed of living in Coruscant. Hong Kong and Taibei are pretty damn futuristic too.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:31:59 No.9346909
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    I think this one is the best from the blog linky, I would love to live there.. the steam coming up from the streets and the coldness of machinery
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:48:05 No.9347141
    Bumping for more discussion with futurebots.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:54:32 No.9347250
    the future is not an extrapolation of the present. the future is things that do not even exist today. if we have cities today, that doesn't mean the future is bigger and grander cities tomorrow.

    most probably, the future is virtual reality. that is where people will spend their time and artistic focus.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)17:56:36 No.9347296
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    >>9346360
    Better question for OP: What are you doing to help us get there?
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:02:22 No.9347393
    >>9347296
    I'm a structural engineer.

    Your turn now.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:03:43 No.9347409
    >>9347393
    Lawyerfag. Interested in working internationally and helping to accelerate this globalization shit. Type 1 civilization or bust.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:06:01 No.9347450
    >>9347296
    I would greatly like the source of this image or at the very least, that you post more.
    >> Trip Hop !HP05gKEXZ. 06/05/10(Sat)18:08:41 No.9347494
    >>9347409
    inb4 someone spouts michio kakus other stuff.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:10:39 No.9347525
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    >>9347450
    Just out of my robot waifu folder. Most of it is 2D and nearly all of it muted. Sorry.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:10:46 No.9347529
    No. Humanity will collapse before we get that far.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:11:29 No.9347551
    Why would you want to? It looks dark, gloomy and crowded. Rural living ftw.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:13:24 No.9347592
    >>9347450

    Deus Ex 3
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:13:30 No.9347593
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    >>9347494
    I don't actually believe the Type 1 civilization global governance stuff. But I do believe increased international integration and more standardized rule of law in the developing world will help to speed things along.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:16:17 No.9347640
    >>9347593
    that won't happen for hundreds of years. as long as people have different beliefs and values then there won't be a single standardized rule of law. the internet and big media have done well to begin the homogenization process, though.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:18:53 No.9347678
    the collapse of all civilsation will occur within the next 100 years. it was fun while it lasted.

    also, why would and how would you build this city? how could that superstructure possibly be supported? how could you justify the inordinate amount of money needed to construct it? how would it make financial sense to contruct this - what advantage could it possibly offer to have everything elevated? what's wrong with the ground?
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:20:09 No.9347696
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    >>9347640
    Agreed. No need for a single, uniform standard though. Just homogeneous enough with respect to business and trade law should be sufficient. And this can certainly happen in the next 100 years. Just a little progress towards rule of law in China would go a hell of a long way.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:24:05 No.9347769
    I hope not. I like sunlight
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:24:59 No.9347787
    Maybe not like that.

    By 2050 though shit is going to look pretty damn different, that much is a given.

    >>9346562
    >Implying more wars are started over solely religion more then economics.
    No.
    Compared to secular conflicts, religion doesn't do shit.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:28:25 No.9347843
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    So, other robots please chime in. In what ways are helping to push us all forward?
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:29:55 No.9347873
    Only in three-thousand thirty. Deltron zero.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:31:55 No.9347899
    >yeah we'll see cities like what's below the high rise levels, but nothing like blade runner.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:33:09 No.9347919
    >>9346360

    i don't think architecture will invest in something like that
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:34:24 No.9347934
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    Hey guys, check this out.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kowloon_Walled_City

    There used to be this tiny city in Hong Kong which was completely lawless because it was technically Chinese-owned but the surrounding area had been leased to Britain.

    It was basically just a shit ton of buildings built on top of one another. 33000 people living in one one-hundredth of a square mile. And it was full of drugs, gambling, prostitution, and gang hideouts.

    Basically, it was a real-life lower Coruscant.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:35:09 No.9347947
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    Thread needs more robot waifus and more cool architecture.
    >> Trip Hop !HP05gKEXZ. 06/05/10(Sat)18:35:29 No.9347952
    >>9347843
    I open doors for people.
    I give up my seat for the elderly on the bus.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:36:16 No.9347966
    >>9346360
    I would love to see that built one day. But futuristic cities such as this will never happen, we need more resources and the Earth has finite resources.

    Side question: What is that structure on top of the buildings in the OP picture?
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:36:19 No.9347968
    >>9347873
    Hero, not no small feat.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:39:28 No.9348002
    >>9347678

    Oh shut up you sissy nihilist. Just because you can't make it in society doesn't mean everyone else can't.

    OP, the problem with all of those future city scapes, and the reason we will never see them on Earth, is because if you look closely, you'll see that there are almost NEVER any old buildings in them. That's the big difference between these future city concepts and real cities; the former has no history, so they all look homogeneous and organized.
    Maybe on another planet we'd see them, where the city can be completely planned from the get-go. But other than that, no, we won't see htem.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:40:46 No.9348028
    >>9348002
    What about in the developing world?
    >> Future !GUYX/6jp3w 06/05/10(Sat)18:41:54 No.9348044
    The 'city of the future' looks a lot like the malls, airports and other large indoor structures that you're already familiar with. Except mixed-zone, with apartments in some areas, restaurants in others and so on.

    In the same way that you look back on rosy predictions of the flying car and wonder why nobody realized what a poor idea it was, we look back on your predictions of massive future cities and arcologies and wonder how you thought you were going to pay for it, who was going to build it, and where the magical new materials for it would come from.

    It takes about five years to build a new hab via autolabor. And we're talkin' one that houses maybe 8,000. Smaller ones go up quicker but the trend is towards larger, partially-buried habs for the insulation and energy savings, Older habs house as few as 4-5k, and the biggest house around 15-20k. They're built mostly with materials you already know about, and with methods you're familiar with, albeit automated.

    Most look, from the air, like either one or a series of geometric ziggurats; four, six, eight sided with walls that lean in towards the flat roof. All are painted white (for high albedo) anywhere they're not coated with solar collectors.

    Some of the open-air northern cities do look roughly like your illustrations, toned down a bit. But most of you won't live there. You'll live in the habs.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:43:07 No.9348058
    I can already see the 4chan threads
    "YOU MUST POST ITT IF YOU LIVE IN THE SUPERIOR UPPER DECK OF NEW YORK"

    "To all you faggots who think the Upper Deck Metropolis is superior - you guys are retards, lol enjoy falling off the rails"

    ">>29239042804982039
    UNTRUE, the upper decks have incredibly safety records and no person has fucking fallen since motherfucking 2079, and hey you faggot, I'd rather take the chance of falling off the Upper Decks than live with the niggers and risk getting hit by a car"

    ">>423490283490283490820
    Lol wtf when was the last time you saw a fucking car you degenerate fuck?, this is the mindless dribble I'd expect from a person living in the Upper Decks, not to mention about 79% of niggers have already been forced into Black National Service in the army or the cotton fields"

    "LOL EUROPEAN HERE,
    you guys are fucking morons, underground cities is where it's fucking at - much less expensive and way safer, but of course you fuckers are way behind, that's what you get for electing a Mexican for president"

    ETC ETC ETC.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:44:10 No.9348078
    >>9348058
    I fucking IoI'd.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:44:44 No.9348084
    >>9348044
    For those of us that do live in the north, what's preferable, the open air cities or the habs?

    I already know where I'm living is going to be uninhabitable, since I'm on the coast.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:45:40 No.9348099
    induring Futureguy hijack.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:46:52 No.9348118
    Urban planner here.

    The answer is no fucking way will we ever see giant pointless centralised structures like that, because workplaces are becoming less spatially tied and more decentralised. Office buildings like that perform tertiary industrial functions that do not require the physical attendance of the employees as tasks are purely information based and therefore transferable off-site.

    What we will see, as others have said, is a massive growth in teleconferencing leading to virtual reality and physical operations being adopted by robotics and AI.
    >> Future !GUYX/6jp3w 06/05/10(Sat)18:47:10 No.9348122
    >>9348084

    Open air cities. Absolutely gorgeous. Anyone can visit, rent a manual auto, cruise around and take in the sights. But they are pretty wary if you stay more than a week or two. You might get city officials knocking on your door, asking when you plan to either legally emigrate or leave.

    If you have four or more shares to your name, emigration's an option. If you don't, it's not.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:47:58 No.9348132
    >>9348058

    >google upper deck New York
    >realize I am retarded
    >> Smilecat !TJ9qoWuqvA 06/05/10(Sat)18:48:41 No.9348140
    >>9347934
    For some insane reason I've always wanted to walk around in that place.
    The inside of it looked like something out of Blade runner.
    >> Future !GUYX/6jp3w 06/05/10(Sat)18:50:48 No.9348174
    >>9348140

    Imagine Kowloon, only built from modern materials using a sound, predefined floorplan and kept sanitary/crime-free. That's basically a hab.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:54:27 No.9348240
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    >>9348058
    Laughed alot, bro.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:57:56 No.9348307
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    Posting some cities
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)18:59:58 No.9348340
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    rbot say beep
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:01:23 No.9348369
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    rbot: 01100010 01101111 01101111 01110000
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:02:55 No.9348393
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    futuristic city pictures
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:04:12 No.9348413
    Go to Brasilia. Well, it was futuristic in the '60s. It's ugly and people only live there because they're forced to, since they work for the government.
    >> >hateniggers !SJwtkhkkK2 06/05/10(Sat)19:06:11 No.9348446
    >>9348393

    Too green, needs moar dark metal/iron buildings.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:06:51 No.9348458
    >>9348413

    It has that sort of Venture Bros architecture that's based on 60s futurism.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:12:41 No.9348586
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    >You will never Iive in the Walled City of Kowloon
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:26:31 No.9348812
    >>9348174

    So habs are more like enormous buildings than cities?

    Also, Kowloon was demolished in the 90s unfortunately. It would have been so awesome just to go explore there before it went down.
    >> FAGGATRON_3000 !U0FKfqmRjs 06/05/10(Sat)19:27:34 No.9348828
    No, fire evacuations, etc...
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:29:00 No.9348846
    >>9348174
    Kowloon was, generally, a nice place to live. There was a strong sense of community, there was drugs and whatnot, but it was all behind closed doors, and people weren't the victims of violent crime, like you'd expect. It was quite the libertarian utopia, for the most part.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:31:13 No.9348886
    >>9348846

    >libertarian utopia

    Ankle deep grime and all.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:32:02 No.9348901
    >>9348886
    You must've missed the
    >for the most part
    part.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:32:59 No.9348914
    For the record it was the Kowloon walled city. Not Kowloon. They mean different things, Kowloon is the peninsula part of Hong Kong.
    >> Future !GUYX/6jp3w 06/05/10(Sat)19:33:06 No.9348915
    >>9348812

    Essentially. Like I've said, the best points of comparison are airports and malls. The shared space is of very high quality; faux marble, fountains, elaborate hanging gardens. Compare that to the shared space in the typical early 21st century city; concrete sidewalks, asphalt, perhaps the occasional small park. Moving indoors made it possible for the areas that everyone has to use to be of far higher quality and comfort, though of course much smaller at the same time.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:47:42 No.9349182
    >>9348915

    How do the habs have airports? Are they outside, or are there little windows that the planes fly into?

    Also why build an airport if only ~8000 people live in one? :/
    >> Future !GUYX/6jp3w 06/05/10(Sat)19:49:55 No.9349225
    >>9349182

    No, you've misunderstood. They don't have airports. I'm comparing their structure to that of airports, in that they are large, indoor, multi-zoned buildings with everything from restaurants to electronics shops to hotels and so on.

    Some do have pads for rotos to land on but that's beside the point.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)19:52:35 No.9349278
    >>9349182
    read the post again
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:02:46 No.9349466
    Nah i wish
    but i can see it now
    the people who live on the bottom half of the city would be crime ridden niggers and all the middle class would be on top
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:04:17 No.9349497
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    This picture always make me think. What if we stuck a group of people away from society, how would they act?
    >> ƁƐƐƑ? MONGOLOID ST8 OF U M8 !lttbKwpttA 06/05/10(Sat)20:05:51 No.9349523
    Yes. Case in point, look at fucking Dubai
    >> Future !GUYX/6jp3w 06/05/10(Sat)20:11:10 No.9349624
    >>9349497

    Probably more or less like Chridoms. Outsiders. Remnants. Whatever you'd call them.

    The majority of the US population actually lives in squalid, primitive conditions outside the habs.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:19:28 No.9349772
    >>9349523
    Dubai'll be a ruin in a couple of decades.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:20:56 No.9349805
    >>9346360
    Something specifically resembling that image? No. The design is extremely inefficient.

    It's really hard--nearly impossible--to depict a future city accurately. (You may not be talking about this at all, but I think it's amusing as mental masturbation.) First and foremost, it's impossible to see any appreciable measure past the curve of art, culture, or technology. Architecture is deeply rooted ("foundation" joke here) in the common ground of all three. Technology shapes the mechanical structure by way of developed means of construction and the materials available. And, to a lesser extent, technology affects the utilitarian capacities a building may or must have (e.g., the Sears tower has an air dock because personal blimps were anticipated for the wealthy). The influence of art and culture is obvious, blah blah.

    tl;dr watch ghost in the shell.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:22:15 No.9349831
    >>9349772
    I'm expecting this too. It seems like it's exploding far far beyond its realistic sustainability very very quickly.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:24:19 No.9349875
    FUTUREGUY MAKE A THREAD AND POST PHOTOGRAPHS.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:27:22 No.9349947
    Fusion Controlled reactions connected to the grid, Is the only way to get to see futuristic cities, space colonies etc.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:30:33 No.9349999
    >>9349947
    >>9349947
    >>9349947

    THIS FINALLY THIS.. if you expect that cities like the images shown in this thread will be sustained by oil or even worse.. current renewable energy sources. you are dreaming.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:32:15 No.9350017
    >>9349947

    NIF is going to attempt sustainable fusion reactions this summer. I am sooooo fucking excited.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:35:36 No.9350079
    >>9349805
    >personal blimps

    WHY DON'T WE HAVE THESE
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:52:35 No.9350402
    FUCK YEAR FUTURE GUY THREAD MY WEEK IS MADE!

    Are there any habs on the moon? Is the first moon station/hab named the Neil Armstrong Habitat/Station?

    What types of social/political differences do people face in habs?
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)20:54:49 No.9350444
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    >>9349497

    Full pic.
    >> Anonymous 06/05/10(Sat)21:15:15 No.9350736
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