what do you do now for a job _

Are you good at anything?

If you have to ask, you can't do it.

you somehow expect that you should make 2-4 grand a month??? why is that?

4 grand a month? That's nearly 50,000 a year...you are seriously asking advice on /r9k/ on how to make a self-employed 50,000 a year?

>ISHYGDDT

Currently I work in the oil industry doing some technical illustratsion as well as field work. The pay is decent, but I work about 65 to 70 hrs a week for 16$ an hr. Id gladly take a pay cut to only work 40hrs and be happier. Im pretty decent at illustration, and I'm willing to learn just about anything.

Become a free lance web designer.

>>934233
Why not?
>>934244
Its the internet..you never know who is looking.

>>934185

I own a pizzeria. We do some specialty stuff, we're open til 3 AM. You'd be surprised how much more business you get in the hours 11-3AM because people come home drunk or stoned and want pizza.

We're open from 5PM to 3AM every day except Monday. I keep our pizza-maker on salary, we have a small place, enough to seat 20 people should they want to eat in, a small staff of 5 people. 3 delivery guys, one pizza maker, one specialty-order/washer/box-maker.

It's pretty legit. I, myself, bring home around 3 grand a month, profit. After taxes, paychecks, and pizza supply orders, it's actually a pretty good business.

Any questions? Ask away.

>>934303
3grand

Shit nigger, that's not alot for owning your own place

>>934323

It's enough to support my alcohol and marijuana needs. As well as a house in a decent neighborhood. Yeah, I own my house.

>>934303
I also have alot of resturant experience and was considering some mobile lunch operations. That way I could have multiple trucks/ carts selling food at relatively low overhead.
What is the salary/pay that you are paying your employers? How are the "bad times"; meaning have you had to take out any loans on really slow months to stay open? What is your rent you pay for your place? Are you in a large city or small? What was the initial start up cost?Thanks.

>>934334
>owns a house
is that an accomplishment or something?

>>934323
Eh, I wish I could make 2000 a month.

I don't understand what people do with all the money they make. I could rent without a roomate, pay a car payment, pay insurance, pay utilities, pay for food, gas, and everything else I'd need, along with most of the things I want like internet/cellphone/weed extremely easily making only 2000 a month, which is only 24000 a year and considered poverty. People just don't know how to control their money is all.

>>934377


People want more, who doesn't want more

people dont want bare minimum

>>934376
Yeah, I don't see why it isn't? Most houses are 300k+, a couple years worth of work.

Definitely an accomplishment that keeps on giving.

to pizza guy:
do you work at the store when it's open? or do you have a more hands-off role?

>>934351

The guy who makes the pizzas is on 32000 a year. On average he makes about 60-70 pizzas a day priced at 9 per, along with other items, like chicken parm sammiches and whatnot. Delivery guys make minimum wage on the books + their own tips, and the washer/cook/boxmaker makes 10 an hour. I'll have to make the delivery guys help out when she isn't working, but she's this little Latina girl who really doesn't know any better.

Honestly, in pizza, there are no bad times. People always order pizza. I really haven't noticed a difference in the last 3 years among order disparities. I don't pay rent, I own the property, and charge the tenants rent who live upstairs. I did have to take out a hefty loan to start the place.

I live in near NYC, the NJ side. To be more specific, Lyndhurst, which is about a 20 minute drive from NYC. We deliver to the surrounding 6 towns, which brings in a lot of business.

The initial start-up cost was insane. You have to take out loan to buy the place, order menus and get your name out there. The first few weeks we delivered free pizzas to hotels and apartment building managers so they'd place our menus in rooms. You have to order large amounts of flour, tomato sauce, cheese, that sort of thing. Luckily, there are a lot of places here that give discounts to bulk orders. I opened up the place when a close-by pizzeria went out of business and offered me all of their mixers and pizza pans at a discounted price, so I went straight to the bank at age 22, to see if they'd give me a loan for it. They gave me ridiculous interest rates, because I was so young, but I'm 25 now, own my own place and run a decent business.

>>934402
But bare minimum is actually a pretty cushy lifestyle.
It's the secret to happiness really, eliminating alot of your wants and being happy with content. It sucks being the kind of poor person who just wants to live content and have security in my finances to do what I want and take a trip maybe once a year. I'm always around people who are constantly unhappy and unsatisfied with their life because they want to live a rich lifestyle.

>>934417
okay, I just assumed you owned a small Sub 100k 1 story house, no basement, single bedroom and bath.

You have to find out what people both need, and will pay good money for. Then, do whatever that is.

>>934478
Was the loan used to purchase the property also?
Thanks for the info btw.

>>934477

I help out. I'll do the dishes and clean the pans when the girl isn't there. I'll even do deliveries if somebody calls out sick. 90% of the time I'm there helping out. My employees and I have a relatively good working relationship, I host a couple of get-togethers every month.

>>934376

Where I live, very much so. It cost 400k, already paid off the mortgage and live comfortably. Living in the area I live in, if you weren't born rich, you struggle, unless you're business minded. I struggled. I made something of myself.

If anybody else has any questions, ask away.

Pizza guy, how many hours are you putting in?

>>934537
How was your credit history before you went to the bank for the loan when you were 22?

>>934524

Yeah. I had to. Chase gave me a 100k small business loan to get started. To be honest, I worked my way through college, maintained above average credit and only had around 15k to put down thanks to loans from prominent family members. I was serious about the business, and they saw that, so I paid them back, and gave them each 5k extra after I was comfortable enough to do so.

>>934587

I got a credit card when I was 18, had a job when I started college and worked my entire way through. I was on scholarship when I did so, studying Biology. I'd buy big items, pay them off, kept up a decent credit.

To all you kids out there, seriously, get a credit card and have a job. Don't buy shit you don't need. I wound up buying food and socks and clothes and paying it off with money I already had in the bank, just to build a decent credit score.

>>934565

As previously stated, we're open 10 hours a day, 6 days a week. I'm usually there 50-55 hours a week. If I have to run errands or do things outside the place, meet with people or something like that, I do. but I'm usually there when we're open.

>>934643
How do you spend your free time pizza guy?
Out of all the businesses you could start..why a pizza place?

>>934672

>who wouldnt want to own a pizza place

OP, do you get sick of pizza? Do you pay for the pizza you eat?

>>934672

Depends on the time of year. This year I went to Ireland (I'm Irish and own a pizza place, I know) to see where my great grandfather was raised. Had a blast. I read, play random on-sale Steam video games, or just hang out with friends or my girlfriend.

I have a dog and a cat, they keep me entertained. During the winter, I'll usually stay in and read, or play hockey in a beer league I'm in.

Internet, a lot. I bring my laptop in to work and have wireless in the place. It keeps me and my employees happy during down-times.

I started a pizza place because I remember being 21, in college, and raging when it was 1 AM and there was nothing to eat. In the area where I opened the place, there was no pizzeria opened past 12. Once I opened a place that was open til 3 AM, no matter what time of day, people ordered. You really see an increase of orders after 11PM (When everybody else closes around us) and it caters to my employees/night owls, like myself. I'm typically there til closing,and I was never really much of a daywalker to begin with.

>>934700

Hah, no. Never sick of pizza, it's near fucking impossible. I don't even make my employees pay for the pizza they eat. Just for drinks. Drinks are fucking expensive.

To be honest, those meat-lovers pizzas you order from pizzahut and get charged 15 dollars for costs around 3 dollars to make when you do pizza in bulk. It's actually pretty insane, and why I only charge $9 for a large pie with cheese. Toppings are a dollar each, extra, but you get what I mean.

Do you sell alcohol pizza guy?

Just popping in to say I've got a lot of respect for pizza guy. It takes balls to start a business, no matter how small. Hope you have a prosperous 2012.

>>934185

Yup, part owner of a used car lot. I had a thread earlier today:

>>930980

I earn some money on the side performing marriage ceremonies, but I certainly wouldn't call it a "business".

>>934748

I was considering doing something not all that dissimilar to you, Pizza Guy. I live in a University town and noticed that the local indie bookshop makes a killing on things like textbooks and the classics. I chose a pretty impractical degree, and I'm sort of wising up to the realities of it. Would it be worth trying to open a bookshop in today's day and age? I mean, people don't pirate books much, and students always need stuff. Or would that be extremely unwise? Would it be worth paying out the extra cash for a franchise, to help pull customers in?

Thanks for any advice you can offer.

>>934614
I've been thinking about doing that. I have a steady-ish minimum wage retail job where I could work for years if need be, but my room mate is pretty unstable and I don't really see her wanting to stay here after our lease is up. She wants get married to some rich guy and never have to work again.
I've got about 6 months to build up credit and find a good roomate. They like me where I work at so promotion is possible & i'm usually getting the most time out of anyone who's labeled as part time. 39 hours a week @ 7.75.

Do you think I should find a room mate and find continue with my part time job? I could probably get student loans to go to college, but I don't really want to get into debt with the state of the country. I'm also thinking of writing though, I went to college for a semester and my English Professor suggested I try to get published after reading two of my papers. I'm pretty positive I could if I tried, but of course how much do writers make amirite.

I'm rambling, I'm stoned.

Businessanon, how feasible is it to start up a cheap as dirt burger joint?
I'm talking like on the dollar $1 burgers including tax?
Me and some friends were thinking about trying to do this but we don't know if it would even pull a profit.
I'm thinking the supplies would cost at least 30-50 cents to make the burger, and 7-10 cents for tax. So that would be around 40 cent a burger sold profit. How wrong am I? I haven't even thought about machines, or employees yet.

>>934787

Thank you kind sir.

>>934827

If you want my advice, avoid a bookstore. If you live in a university town that doesn't already have a bookstore, by all means. With things like the Kindle and Nook and iPad, I foresee bookstores and the like fading out in the future, much like newspapers. Before long, all will be obsolete, unless you're in the business of selling antique books in a place like the Hamptons.

>>934846

If you're confident in your writing abilities, I say go for it. There's no reason not to. Write a few short stories, send them to a few publishers. If they like it, you get paid. If they don't, try again. Roommates in this day and age are a sketchy thing to come by. I lived with my family up until 5 months into owning the pizza place before I was able to get a mortgage and put a down payment on my house. Now, my brother lives with me, as well.

>>934954

If you're buying in bulk, it won't come out to that much. If you want a "dirt-cheap-as-fuck" place, you're going to wind up spending 15-20 cents a burger, if that. Buns run like 3-5 cents if you buy them in the 100's, and meat is really the only high-cost item you'll be buying, but as stated, if you're buying in bulk, no matter what, you'll get discounts.

>>934954
I worked for a guy who sold restaurant equipment. That's where your major expenses will lie. Finding a location (either buying or renting) and equipment. Whatever you do, don't buy new. Buy equipment from reputable local used equipment dealers or eBay (the guy I worked for sold a ton of equipment online)

>>934478
yo, what's the name of your place? i want to eat the r9k pizza

>>934760

No. Licenses around here are expensive, and it really isn't worth the hassle. We do, however, have a Coca-Cola thing where they give us discounts for only selling Coke products, as well as Ice Cream.

>>934988
>>934991
Ok, cool.
So my only real worries are location( costumer flow), equipment and rent?

>>935048
Getting all the proper licenses and permits also.

A pizza place that stays open till 3:00 AM? That's actually a pretty good idea OP.

Watch out, in a few years you might have some midwest competition!

No, I won't do it, but it is tempting

Hey OP, if you're good at acting and have about 5 grand to invest, you could open up your own voice over production company. I started mine about 2 years ago and am pulling in about 1.4k a day in gigs. It definitely starts off slow since you'll be spending about 90% of the day looking for clientele(and they are everywhere! Voice overs are one of the biggest growing industries at the moment) and about 10% recording whatever they give to you. Money is money though, and once you have that clients trust, they'll definitely have more work for you on a daily basis. I have about 3 agents, and 2 video production companies that I'm now partners with since starting.

I would like to own a comic book shop...

But really

>comic book shop
>not failing

Not exactly a great business.

a bunch of us from work wanted to invest in a b-dubs, but they wanted something like $900k before they'd even consider talking to us about a franchise.

>csb

>mfw I work from home
>mfw 1 piece of software makes me $600 a week
>mfw I ain't going to tell you because every time I've tried to help someone they've been all like "LOL U WERK FRUM HOM U FAAAAAAAAG LMFAO"

>>935085

Seriously. When I started up, I would help on deliveries past midnight, and nearly every person I delivered to was either drunk or stoned. A couple of times there would be parties, they'd be all, "HEY! Come in and have a drink, hit this pipe" etc etc. Since we're so close to NYC, a lot of foreigners on vacations would order.

The best time, swear to 4chan, was when this group of French college students ordered. They were having this party in their hotel room, was just the guys, but their female counterparts were a few doors down. The guys invited me in and said "you have to come back" in broken english. Took pictures of me holding the delivery bag, hanging out.

As I left, I told the girls to go join them, they seemed like good guys. They said "We're having our own party."

Then, they ordered pizza, right before closing, so I went back, hang out with Frenchies. THEY REALLY AREN'T THAT BAD.

>>935103
i wanted to start a pinkberry in del rey beach a few years ago but didnt have 750k for it.
really fucking lost out there. id be wealthy if id had that capital to invest then.

I own a couple of dry cleaners. One of them is established and the other is new.
I've got a $100,000 business loan and have about $60k left to pay off in the next 3 years.
Rent total for the two shops is about $3,500, gas bills are about $500(we go through a lot of gas obviously). Everything else is pretty small.
Right now I'm pretty much making just enough to pay for everything, so if something new comes up, I'm probably gonna be utterly fucked.
The second cleaners is working at about 25% capacity since it's new. Currently doing advertising to pick up business awareness.
Once it gets up there, I'll be comfortably making money and can finally buy something nice for myself.
This shit is really stressful though. Hopefully the second shop picks up enough in a year, and if/when it does, I'll sell both cleaners for about $300,000 then use that to pay whatever I have left on the loan then use the rest to open a restaurant franchise my friend owns.

>>935103

Where are you from?

Not an original comment.

>>935126
They might have just never had pizza before.

My aunt owns one of the most successful restaurants here and she 'gave' me an express version of the restaurant. Pretty much all I have to do is live in her condo, run her restaurant and give her half the profits.
Funny thing is that the business is booming. We make about $10,000 a day so now I can higher more people to do all the work and I just sit in the back on my laptop playing vidya then keep everyone in line and working.

Nice

bloxbloxbloxbxoxlox

>>935161
Have you considered the costs and benefits of driving loads of orders from your busy location to your new one and back to distribute the load?

>>935224
Maybe not American pizza, but real pizza, almost certainly.

>>935418
That's what I'm doing right now. The other cleaners is a drop shop.

>>935103
>b-dubs
Fuck don't be a faggot and call it b-dubs. Buffalo Wild Wings, BWW even, I don't care but not fucking b-dubs. I used to have a friend that did that and it pissed me the fuck off for some unknown reason.

>>935438
Have you ever considered dealing drugs? You'd have the perfect money laundering operation

>>935639
a different anon here
i have been considering starting a cash business largely for the purpose of assisting a person in that regard.

it would help us both immensely.
not sure yet though.

>>935103

>b-dubs

Kill yourself.

>>934271
If you plan to be self employed then you're gonna be working non stop. You can't schedule your own hours because you have to take control of everything involving the business. I work with a guy who ran a convenience store for 16 years. He told me that the only way he could take a vacation was to hire someone new and train them, but then he would have to lay them off when he got back. So he never bothered. worked 10 hour days, 7 days a week for 16 years... He's a working class bro though. Unlike all these 99% faggots who want pay raises for folding shirts.

>>935692
Oh lawd....
Did he sell the place? Did he turn a profit?

I always wanted to get into drug dealing but I can't figure out how to make meth, and no one will tell me.

A friend of mine did it for a couple of months, and paid off 30 years' worth (well, not exactly 30 years' worth, but he was 30 when he did it) of debt and loans just from meth. Made about $13,000 a week, he said.

God damn.

>>935812
You get than info from darknets and shadey TOR sites.

it's impossible to make money without working for someone else. even drug dealers work for other people.

thanks for all the replies and inspiration anons.

>>935913

Doesn't seem worth the trouble, or the risk.

>>935913
Or you could just look at one of the various instructional images that gets reposted on 420chan daily.

>>935094
What kind of recordings are you doing?