did he i dont watch losers on the internet do losery things

>>9309695

What is this?

mootbloxx

Poor body language, I thought, unless he wanted to look like a hapless nerd.

...actually, I agree. Well played moot, well played.

Wut, this thread was deleted and then reposted? Did you just really hate my response or something?

Seriously what is this I wanna see him make an ass of himself.

Could you indulge me with a link, OP?

The presentation wasn't bad. Although he didn't make much of a real argument in favor of anonymity.
Body language was poor but not too bad considering.

It's moot's TED talk:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_1UEAGCo30

He did a better job than I would.

>>9309728
You calling mootykins a loser?

Would he post on your website? Thought not

he kinda made 4chan look like more than just a place where people say dumb shit.
the dusty story gave people the wrong impression... that's not really what this site is about.

i would love to see the reaction of everyone's face in that audience when they decide to check /b/ out

Didn't moot already do this?

Didn't the presenter troll him with a question about child pornography?

Jesus wept, they have him stand in the middle of the stage and describe 4chan like some kind of retarded school show and tell.

Anyone would look foolish. Why not just give him a chair and sit and ask questions like normal fucking people?
"Oh yeah we're pushing the boundaries of chat shows , exploring the space and working with the theatre dimensions HURRR DURRR". Cunts.

>>9309803

You could just watch it on TED, y'know.

...this is a rickroll, isn't it?

awkward as fuck....painfull to watch, moot you are a faggot

>>9309695
Man that guy who quizzed him at the end was like the stinky creepy arm of the law. That guy was like every single knowitall teacher I've ever had. I hope M00t doesn't end 4chan because of 'grownups' like that prick

>>9309768
http://www.ted.com/talks/christopher_m00t_poole_the_case_for_anonymity_online.html

>>9309813

lol moot is just a disgruntled goon who ripped off some faggy anime web site for fags and marketed it to faggy white people

u mad

I thought he was pretty good. Kinda slipped up there after the CP question, but far better than I would have been.

this is old as shit, guys.

I STARTED TO WATCH BUT THEN I HAD TO TURN AWAY IT'S TOO MUCH AAAGHH WHAT HAPPENS ON THE VIDEO GUYS?

>>9309887

I do always feel like there's too much focus on "meme production" whenever people talk about 4chan, but I guess that's the thing most people experience from us.

I thought it was an ok talk. Keep in mind that TED has strict time constraints. However, I think I could have done better. Not to sound cocky, but I would have explained the evolution of memes better and included rickrolling the Mets, etc.

Then I would have said something more sociological like how although /b/ might sound like homophobic kids calling everyone fags, actually 4chan is pretty nice to real gay people and has many legit threads about gay stuff (unlike 99.999% of male-oriented media).

Also I would have not said I want to be an urban planner.

>>9309887

Are you an idiot? TED is a conference where people give lectures. It isn't a talk show. Learn to academia.

TROLLFACE: SO SON, ARE YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH YOUR LIFE BESIDES CREATE HAVENS FOR PEDOPHILES?

M00T: Umm... Urban Planner?

I thought his voice would be deeper.

>>9310007
>TED
>academia
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I hate that interviewing faggot. What a pretentious dick!

>>9309986
Yeah, it was the same with roflcon 2

/sigh

>>9310007

>TED
>academia

Yeah sure, that pop culture bullshit is really academic.

>>9309998

Yeah, he comes across as awkward, but you have to think about how hard it is to explain 4chan to a broad audience of people who've never heard of it in 5 minutes without horribly offending everyone. We're used to it, but there's a lot of really weird cultural stuff - like you say, calling everyone fags but being generally gay-friendly is a good example of something that seems perfectly reasonable to 4chan regulars but isn't easy to explain to someone without it sounding like you're trying to cover up rampant homophobia.

>>9310060
Yeah, it does come off a bit like "I'm not racist, some of by best friends are niggers!".

/b/ is the heart of 4chan

I liked how the guy tried to get him to justify 4chan...

>>9309986

The thing is, people like hearing about memes. A lot of the other stuff is only interesting to us because we're part of it; people who have never heard of 4chan just want to have a good chuckle about LOLcats and get on with their day.

Speaking of which: did anyone else notice that moot pronounced "lol" as "lul"?

>>9310060
I'm not gay friendly. I hate fags. One of the reasons I hate fags is because they won't simply let you not like them as a person. If you dislike someone who is gay, they make it about them being gay, and they ALWAYS win in their minds.

Plus, gay people are fuckin weird. Maybe not when they are young, but have you ever seen an old fag? They look like eunuchs. Also, NPH is confused as hell, and as such, is confusing. Like a spaz, he doesn't know where he is at any given moment. Ever watch that guy? People can say that homosex is about love, but if it were then sex would have nothing to do with it. People need to stop thinking the way they are told to think. IT IS WEIRD and if you just say that out loud people think you are hating on gays.

>>9310055

> academia

Wow it is a dense crowd in here. I am not saying they are academic, I'm saying they follow the format of academic conference presentations. They do NOT follow the format of a talk show in any way, which is what the comment accused them of doing.

>>9309953
>Man that guy who quizzed him at the end was like the stinky creepy arm of the law. That guy was like every single knowitall teacher I've ever had. I hope M00t doesn't end 4chan because of 'grownups' like that prick

I doubt that would happen.

>>9309998
>Then I would have said something more sociological like how although /b/ might sound like homophobic kids calling everyone fags, actually 4chan is pretty nice to real gay people and has many legit threads about gay stuff (unlike 99.999% of male-oriented media).

That same mentality can be applied to most of the 4chan imageboards too.

>>9310060

What I love is when I see people that are homosexual describing themselves as "gayfags." The term's so decoupled from its slur origins that you actually have to specify that you mean "I'm the kind of faggot that has sex with other men."

Wow, I never thought I'd have a use for this advicedog mashup image.

He shouldn't have said the "rules of the internet" :/

>>9310178
Gayfag who's really into linguistics here. The term "gayfag" makes me lol and lol.

>>9310090
Yes. The cancerous heart.

>>9310115
Yes. I died a little on the inside.

>>9310242
An afterthought: I've been seeing people type things like "I lol'd irl" -- "I laughed out loud in real life". This is another phrase that has surfaced over time that really amuses me. Half the time when people are loling theyre not even laughing out loud. Oh internet!

>>9310178

Exactly. This would be one of the best things to present to a non-chan audience. Unfortunately m00tles is just starting college so (ironically) he hasn't learned to think as broadly as most of his userbase.

I would have put up the word "fag" and said "here is an offensive word" when talking about free speech and anonymity. Then I would have shown all the -fag suffix words. Newfag, oldfag, etc, and then say "the word is so used the the derogatory connotation is so divorced that you actually get homosexuals on the board identifying themselves as 'gayfags'". The slur that is so horrible in the real world has lost all it's power on 4chan

>>9309986
>>9310051
>>9310115
That's is the sad truth about 4chan. People only know 4chan because of /b/ and its memes because it's the mainstreamed portion of the website. But not for the rest of the stuff 4chan has to offer, and not for it's true origins of the website. If moot clearly explained what 4chan really is, the audience would not understand.

>>9310207

I agree. First, rules 1 & 2 make no sense in that context, because he was talking about /b/. Second, no one knows what it means and he didn't talk about the secretive nature in any way (or about Fight Club). Third, it forced him to call it "b" and sound retarded.

And finally, rule 34 is funny and all but when you cant show an example, or even say something to allude to something there is porn of, then why bother?

Guy was able to give insight to a mostly oblivious and ignorant audience as to why 4chan works, is important, and is so popular.

I mean, fuck. Imagine explaining this to your older college professor. Sure, he can learn, but you still have to prepare him for the full explanation by giving him baby steps. Rich was able to do that, AND was able to get across some of the bigger picture.

Way to go, Rich. You kicked ass.

>>9310332
Maybe that is for the best


Like it or not, a lot of 4chan boards have a deeply ingrained community.

Take /tg/ for example, they produce a metric fuckton of original content for campaigns, they have written several codex books, and have running quest threads that are literally 50+ threads of history

A huge in-rush on a board like that would really cripple the magic of the place I think.

Instead now, the people that go to /tg/ are people that really like /tg/ stuff to the core


Maybe it's not as strong with the other boards, but it's there too

Brace for massive newfaggotry.

Incidentally, did everyone watch the ROFLCON2 panel m00t was on?

If he hates cheezburger so much, why doesn't he just create a 4chan store where you can buy meme t-shirts and stickers and stuff. It would probably require very little work and be hugely profitable.

Is he really so principled (aka immature) to think that profit will ruin the site? Maybe corporate sponsorship, but not a store.

>>9310351
I wonder if moot faps to rule 34 porn, and if so, what kind?

All my monies' and virginity are on it being either velociraptor porn or Teddy Rooseveldt porn.

I think moot should have put more emphasis on the other boards, other than /b/.

=(

>>9310141
Just like if heterosex relationships were about love, there'd be no sex.

C'mon. People are going to have sex, whether you like it or not.

Don't generalize. I understand other people dislike me for various reasons. I understand that you aren't homophobic.

Me personally, I'm moreso happy with the relationship aspect. I'm okay with sex, though.

Weird, you say? Okay. People are all different, and you're entitled to your opinion.

Even if you are wrong. (I'M KIDDING DON'T YELL PLEASE)

Again, I don't think you're a homophobe. I'd rather you didn't generalize, though.

>>9310415
Why are you betting your virginity?

>>9310411

I can't tell if moot is philosophically opposed to capitalizing on 4chan or just a typical lazy channer.

I once wrote an essay about 4chan for an English class. When asking permission to write it, I explained to the professor very bluntly about the CP, etc. I kind of framed it like we're all out of A Clockwork Orange, lol.

>>9310411
>implying principled = immature
Who finances the store? A bank.

>>9310272
>I would have put up the word "fag" and said "here is an offensive word" when talking about free speech and anonymity. Then I would have shown all the -fag suffix words. Newfag, oldfag, etc, and then say "the word is so used the the derogatory connotation is so divorced that you actually get homosexuals on the board identifying themselves as 'gayfags'". The slur that is so horrible in the real world has lost all it's power on 4chan

The same concept can also also apply to the word "faggot" on this site. That word is often used for 'idiot', 'moron', 'people', 'person', depending on the context. That word stemmed from /b/tards using that when 4chan was first created, and since /b/tards eventually matured out of /b/ and moved onto the other imageboards of 4chan, it has used so much that it's negative meaning does not exist in 4chan whatsoever.

>>9310415
>virginity
That "asset" is more poisoned the the shit Goldman Sachs sells.

>>9310466
I'm willing to bet on the first option, and I love that he sticks to his principles.

Looking at everything he's been up to, it's hard to argue that he's lazy.

>>9310465
Because I can afford to lose it?

>>9310463
Well, personally I don't think hetero relationships are about love either, not for the most part. If anything, the sexual part of both kinds of relationships is hormonal, but you gotta admit, the hormones are confused in a gay sexual relationship. That is what I mean when I say that oldfags end up looking like eunuchs. You can literally look at them and see that.

Anyway, When the child was a child, he knew that love wasn't sex. And a lot of gays give off bad evil wicked nasy other worldly vibes. Too bad.

>>9310411
>If he hates cheezburger so much, why doesn't he just create a 4chan store where you can buy meme t-shirts and stickers and stuff. It would probably require very little work and be hugely profitable.

In the /r9k/ q and a thread he said been thinking about this for years, but never decided to do so. I can pull up the actual response to that question if you want.

>>9310521
But... What's the incentive for the other person?

>>9310466

And I just realized that "opposed to capitalizing on 4chan" could be taken two ways. Heh.

>>9310469
When I was a naive little freshman I wrote an essay about 4chan (a definition paper about memes created at 4chan in specific). The professor went and saw some Goatse and failed me. Felt bad man.

>>9310482

> Who finances the store? A bank.

Obviously I mean an online store. No one would need to "finance" it. You could partner with a store that already makes t-shirts and print stuff, draw up some simple designs - maybe even have a "make your own" thing - and sell them. All of the manufacturing and shipping would be 3rd party, m00t would just have to make the designs (or get someone to) and take a share of the profit.

>>9310466

What I admire moot most for is that he hasn't done anything like this, as it would most assuredly run the site into the ground. I honestly think there's few people on earth that could have handled 4chon as well as he has.

>>9310560
>>9310469
why? pick a better subject

>>9310558
The fact I'm a girl? Hey don't look at me like that, it should have been obvious from my trip. Also, I understand japanese businessmen pay well for that sort of thing.

>>9310090
yeah that comment he said kinda killed me
but it's true just in that it was the first board started

>>9310560
Goatse! Original! Hilarious!

OK seriously, you should have told the professor not to visit /b/, or better yet, visit the work safe imageboards.

>>9310595
You mean like the ED store?

They just asked him to present 4chan at TED, and that's exactly what he did.

>>9310607
No that would suck. 4chan is, to my mind, free speech purified and refined into it's purest form known. You can't commodify free speech. Also, transferring net shit into IRL is fucking lame. I'd lose a lot of repsect for moot if he endorsed faggots running around with longcat t-shirts shouting memes to each other.

>>9310525
Meh. I just say be with who makes you happy. I don't really give a damn.

"Otherworldy vibes" makes me think of gay sorcerers. I'm not sure if that's a good thing. It did make me laugh like all hell, though.

Jesus, that must have been uncomfortable.

They should have had a couch or something up there. It's inconsiderate to just have your guest standing up on a wide open stage like that completely exposed to an entire audience. Would make anyone nervous.

>>9310560
I've talked about the dynamics of anonymity in a few of my psych classes... Works well in discussions on motive, impulse, etc...

I also gave a presentation on the Army of God. Their website shows a shit-ton of pictures of aborted fetuses, which can be pretty graphic. Professor kind of freaked out when he found out I had been setting up my presentation before seeing a filtered version of it, which blocks all of the images. He was afraid I would be disturbed... XD XD XD

You know that this is really old, right? Hell, moot took over a thread about it when it happened.

>>9310609
the first thing I do when I have a paper due in 5 hours is type the header, then go to 4chan.

>>9310639

I have never seen the ED store or cheezburger actually, but the point is that there are online sites selling things created on 4chan. If m00t just put a store on the site, it would be a shit ton more profitable than those sites because it is at the source.

Alternatively, he could embed an already existing store into 4chan for a cut of the profits. They obviously don't feel the need to advertise here because they get enough traffic, but if they were right on the site profits would probably double or triple at least so it would be good for both parties.

Meh I thought it was okay

Unfortunately this makes everyone interested, which no doubt is going to lead to him creating that 4chan 2.0 for normalfags

Also I fucking hate how he always tries to make it sound like a place with nice people who are being LOL SO SILLY xD, that Dusty cat thing was a one-off a very long time ago

>>9310684
Yeah but the only footage available till now was essentially unwatchable

Go fuck yourself

>>9310732
only faggots would advertise they come here. i saw some douche with a pedobear pin on his hat the other day in history and asked him if he knew what it meant. he said that it was about supporting childrens rights. I let him keep thinking that/

>>9310654

I would never, ever, wear anything 4chan related and don't admit to most people that I go here. I am vaguely aware that some of my friends go here or know about it, but we don't discuss it in RL.

That being said, a store would be very profitable and a good idea for the site, even if it did cause a bunch of kids to be running around with FBF/SAP/LOLcat shirts

I would fully support a 4chan store as long as it autobans anyone who purchases anything.

He should have been better prepared to face questions about CP. He could have just said, "well, that's the price you have to pay for free speech." Instead, he kinda just SAP'd and the guy had to change the topic.

He still did a good job showing how powerful we are, though.

>>9310732

Oh, it was fun watching the roflcon panel because of that. You could sorta tell moot didn't think much of them, and what the fuck can they say? They DO mooch off this site.

>>9310870
>He still did a good job showing how powerful we are
>how powerful we are

hahahahahhahahahahhahahhahaa

>>9310887

If we really organized we could take over a small country no problem.

>>9310887
Your post has more merit when you manage to quote the right one.

>>9310839
>Thinks that CP is one of the things that comes with being anonymous
>He thinks that 4chan users have power

>laughinggirls.jpg

>>9310769
So unwatchable that the majority of 4chan was able to watch it and discuss it with no problem.
Yeah.

>>9310920
Lolno.

You are talking about basement dwellers.

You could say the same thing about youtube. IF ALL THE USERS OF YOUTUBE WERE ORGANIZED THEY COULD TAKE OVER HERP DERP.

Numbers =/= power

> If we really organized

About as likely as a bunch of scattered atoms really organizing into a sentient life form

Even if moot creates a 4chan store, if he creates the products based on the memes they created, it should be more than just /b/ memes. /a/, /g/, /v/, /k/ and the rest of the imageboards are meme factories in their own right.

>>9310920
>If we really organized

Good luck with that.

>so Chris whats up
Everythings cool
>has the CP on YOUR site?
....
>well, do you ever regret doing this retarded shit and creating an avenue for pedophiles and terrorist?
that isn't everthing
>of course it isn't! but still, how do you sleep at night
just fine
>in your parents house *snicker*
no I moved out actually and I go to school
>really? community college? and just what do you think you will be able to do?
urban planning
>ha! for what? wanna make it easier for pedos to snatch kids?
....
>GTFO chris

>>9310947
We're a third basement dwellers, a third underage boys (and some girls), and a third normal people.

>>9310967

That would be fine. In fact, each board could design their own merch if they wanted to, or have a thread with suggestions, and then buy it.

Part of being on the board would be that the users could have input about what the store sells.

>>9310947

Youtube users have no locus of power like anon does. They also lack motivation. We traffic in pictures of how to make homemade weapons and shit. I think we could establish a state in Africa if we really tried.

>>9310933

It is. Free speech means completely free speech.

Fuck it, I'd probably wear a board-specific meme shirt.

I'd definately buy a tank top that has "/fit/" or "come at me bro" on the front as long as it didn't have 4chan written on it

>>9310967

Yeah, but those aren't as accessible.

I mean, who the fuck is going to see a "Flash vs Accelerator, discuss" t-shirt and get the joke?

>>9310979
It goes the exact same way on 4chan. Except moot would have just banned by the end and everyone would be going "LOL EPIC WIN MOOT PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO ME PLEASE," and someone would screencap it.

I'm proud to know that my chans admin is the most normal out of all other chan admins.

Old news. I saw the whole thing when the stream got hacked. I sent him an email about his consideration of majoring in urban studies which I am majoring in too and never heard an email back from him. I didn't have the guts to meet him at ROFLCon II. Huge regret. The architecture building at MIT was really sweet though.

>>9311003
I think I've seen a man wearing a shirt that said "/fit/" before. Really.

>>9310966
>pic
Speaking of which, time to go check up on 510.

Ended waaay to abruptly. He should have spent less time talking about LOLRAIDS and more time talking about freedom of speech and how 4chan is a good example of that. He spent about 9 minutes talking about memes and raids and then at the end just sort of went "so freedom of speech is important. The end."

It seems like he kind of had to slap something together short notice, but even then, moot, think about what the point of your talk is. The point is the importance of freedom of speech with a specific focus on how identity-based websites like Facebook are becoming the norm so places where people can hide behind anonymity and be truly honest and free are more important then ever. Contrast 4chan with other "social networking" sites. Talk about how memes evolve and how 4chan is a living, breathing example of not only the creation of memes but how they seep into popular culture.

C-

>>9311027
*banned him by the end.
Dammit.

>>9311009

I don't know what at least 50% of t-shirts with sayings on them mean. Do you know who the Fagtown High School Dance Champions are? No, but I bet someone has a t-shirt with their logo and slogan on it.

>>9310979
>community college
moot goes to a community college?

>you're lucky that this isn't being streamed to them live.
Hah, moot, it was.

>>9311081
l don't know, moot. Do you?

I say it in every thread about moot's TED talk so this one shouldn't be any different. If moot simply wanted to provide a few chuckles to his audience then gratz, he did that well. Unfortunately, he didn't make any case as for why anonymity is a good thing. He also should have prepared for questions about the dark side of 4chan.

>>9311081

I don't think anyone knows what college he goes to. But, if he is majoring in urban planning, who the hell cares?

Also, he just started that venture capital site so I doubt he is giving college his full attention.

>>9311081
moot probably knows David Harvey. He's a geography/anthropolgist at the CUNY (City University of New York) and that's not a community college.

>>9310839

yeah absolutely. he should have said that the people absolutely set on viewing / distributing CP would find a way to do it regarless of 4chan's existence, and that it's a baseless accusation that 4chan enables child pornographers.

Fuck I hate this guy

>so moot what's so great about your stupid website full of pedophiles?
>well it's one of the few places left where free spee-
>haha you're poor, right?
>well it doesn't make much m-
>LOL you live with your parents too

>>9309887
moot accepted the invitation to speak there. All TED talks are presentations. They aren't meant to be interviews. The person is supposed to talk about a topic, make it interesting and make the case for it to be interesting.

>>9310613
I'm part Japanese, but I wouldn't pay for it. Then again, I have values. Also, I take heavily after my Cajun mother.

Also, save it for someone special. No seriously.

>>9311081
He goes to NYU... This is old news now.

>>9311174
>someone special

Doesn't exist, bro.

>>9311214

If you think it doesn't exist, you are probably not ready to lose your virginity. At least make it someone you like and trust. Maybe you put no emphasis on it now, but you will compare every sexual encounter to your first so you should try to make it at least pretty good.

>>9311163

>so moot what's so great about your stupid website full of pedophiles?
>well it's one of the few places left where free spee-

Show me where the guy cut moot off. He would have been a terrible interviewer/host if he didn't ask about the bad stuff that happens on 4chan.

>>9311214
Does exist. Don't pretend to be experienced before you have any experience.

good presentation, very well spoken, excellent way of carrying himself. well done you

urban studies? really?

You guys all know he probably threw that speech together the night before, right?

He may be moot, but he's one of us, and we procrastinate like motherfuckers.

Also, why didn't m00tles talk about THE GAME (lol, you just lost). He mentioned it quickly, but it is a totally voluntary thing that can't be enforced in any way and yet virtually all anons are playing it and can't stop. That shows the power of anonymity and community right there.

>>9311402
I honestly hate you. Your post made me spit on my monitor from sheer hate.

>>9311423
He's just a kid trying to fit in. Be nice.

>>9311297
>>9311258
Guys, I don't need you to protect my vagina.

love moot.

>>9311423

dude, dont feed the troll

>>9311505

MA'AM, SOMEONE HAS TO PROTECT YOUR VAGINA: AND IF THE INTERNET WON'T, THEN WHO CAN?

Why is his shoulder so high?

D'aww, moot looked like a scared puppy when being interviewed.

>>9312005
Annnd then he had a "I'm going to rape you" look.