Because it's fun. I think you're looking into this way too much.

Escapism.

Thread over.

That reminds me I need to rewatch Welcome to the NHK.

If I could only find a good source.

Becaue they enjoy the shitty characters, retarded fights, and the hilarious plots. This does not apply for all animus of course.

I started reading manga because of the:
Awesomeness
The nice drawings that looked so realistic
Interesting characters

but then all manga became the same so I stopped. Good times though..good times

The reason "losers" as it were takes an interest into anime is simply because of their isolationist behaviour and dependency on the internet. They're the only ones who actually learn about anime at all. Anyone else get what they want from TV. Since they never bother with the internet, they'll never find Anime, and we'll never know if they'd like it, I'm willing to assume that many would, as is the case in Japan.

>>9304998
>anime is never funny except to people who are fans of anime. Sure, there are good anime movies, I'm not a hater, I'm trying to be objective, but anime is never, ever funny, even when it tries hard to be funny.

Seems you've only seen crap.

The colors duke the colors!

>>9305033
Why don't they escape into something else?

>>9305092
>Seems he's only seen anime.

>>9305033
Pretty much.

>>9305042
Read it instead. The light novel is amazing.

>>9305092
Seriously, most animes arent funny simply because the writing is shit.

For the same reason I read books and watch American/European animated movies. Entertainment. Interesting stories.

That's basically it.

Became an otaku upon hearing "U.N. Owen was her?", a piece of music from a game which /jp/ lives for

>>9305113
But the book cover makes you look like a creep. :2

>>9305092
But why exactly anime? There's a lot more stuff out there on the internet that isn't anime.

>>9305121
You know what else is shit?

Two and a half men, Friends and a plethora of the stuff produced in hollywood.

Producing anime can be very cheap, naturally many attempt shitty cashins using "OMG SO KAWAII GURLS!" to appeal to neckbeards. But there's genuinely good stuff among the sea of shit out there.

>>9305094

Weeboos at my school love team fortress 2, and that's quite American.

It's gotta be the colors.

As long as you're not assuming that the anime viewers ONLY watch anime, I'm fine with you asking this question. Yes, there are some extremists who only watch anime, but there are extremists for almost any issue.

>>Also, another interesting thing I have observed - anime is never funny except to people who are fans of anime.
Subjective opinion is subjective. For the humor that appeals to the anime fan, though, perhaps it's because that specific brand of humor is targeted towards them? Naturally that isn't the only kind of comedy anime, but that's one prominent type.

Also, you should phrase your questions in a way that doesn't sound like flamebait. I'm trying quite hard not to just ignore you because you sound like this.

Well OP, I liked anime before I knew it was uncool to like anime. I watched the little dubbed garbage put on American TV and loved all of it.
Later, when I went to university, I searched for an anime club, but sadly there was one.
Then later on my own, I discovered 4chan. Final destination.

What attracts me? Do you guys seriously want to know?

>>9305140
That's a false dichotomy, they DO get into other things.

Movies, Anime, Gaming, DND, Roleplay, ARGs, Flash animation, programming and other things that is easily linked with the internet or isolation that comes with "social rejection".

>>9304998
Regarding otaku anime-fetish type lovers, its because anime is superior at drawing out emotions than regular television. this is accomplished via large eyes, exaggerated emotions, use of color and camera angles not possible in reality, stuff liek that.

Some people get obsessed with soap operas right? anime is the same, except because its anime, it can be more emotionally engaging than regular film can be.

Anime is evolution in television, like an upgrade.

>>9305147
Two And A Half is pretty shitt, Ill give you that but Friends is really good.

i dont consider myself a real otaku, but i like anime a lot. my reasons are these:

i find things in anime that are not anywhere else. be it character, plot, idea... japfags can have some crazy ideas and also i like the anime style of their animation

btw: there are many funny animes. its the same as everywhere else, you comdedy shows, you got action show, you got drama shows...

>>9305202
>except because its anime, it can be more emotionally engaging than regular film can be.
>Anime is evolution in television, like an upgrade.

You can do things in cartoons that you cannot do in real life, even with special effects. It is more pleasing to the eye. Less normalfagginess (that is, relationshit and feminism and multiculturalism invading everything). Better music, VA, etc.

Sadly anime oh so rarely takes advantage of the first on the list and we see nothing but moeshit high school comedies and less Legends of Galactic Heroes (battlefields extending hundreds of light years across? fuck yes.)

>>9305202
I agree with this rowbawt. I love the moe moe kawaii animu more than anything. It's definitely an upgrade to television, and as a bonus, it all comes in ad-free subbed MKVs, so you can feel a little superior watching something in a foreign language, and go all ga-ga over the superior Japanese voice actresses.

>>9305205
Whatever, my point still stands.
Anime can be cheap to produce (reused assets, stills with moving backgrounds, etc.)
Therefore there's ALOT of different things. At first glance, chances are you'll see some of the shit.

Also, keep in mind that (and this should be obvious), not all of it is even supposed to be funny...
It's just an art style, not some japanese looney toons spinoff.

>>9305255
Anyone who thinks that animes can be more emotional than a tv show with good acors is a fucking retard.

In a nutshell:
Western cartoons: Bad. Mostly for kids. Stupid. 2-dimensional.
Japanese anime: Awesome. Adult (not XXX, but mature) themes. Lots of shades of grey; of overlapping meaning.

>>9305272
I know that, and I even respect some animes(Neon Genesis EvengelIon for example) but I still think that TV Shows are in general superior.

>>9305302
SHADES OF GREY, WHEREVER I GO, THE MORE THAT I LEARN THE LESS DO I KNOW.

God damn you why u do this?

look at the boring life round you...
now watch a random anime...

Depending on the scale of your perversion there is sure to be something to suit your taste

What is interesting are the somewhat random story lines and plot twists, which are not too common to western literature and movie industry, which while being somewhat off-beat and distant from the way we usually percieve life, usually do well to distill and plot out some very interesting concepts applicable to it.

The mix of the serious and the DEEP with the ridiculous and the absurd, not forgetting the fan service which sometimes can light up your day if nothing else, and I'm not talking about pantsu-shots or k-oon.. simply girly looking drawings of girlydressed girly-acting girls... something you see so rarely IRL...

Animu is really refreshing for the mind yet can also be really harmful as it portrays something that is much more exciting than anything that you will probably encounter in the real world.

anyway I'ma be a fag and leave this here
http://myanimelist.net/animelist/vtiger
the 10-rated ones are, in my completely subjective opinion, completely obligatory to watch (half of them having a somewhat stupid plotline.. but being a spectacle to watch)!

>>9304998
I like some of it. I love the movies, like some series (CB, SC, that sorta stuff)

Been trying to finish GITS and Evangelion. I really can't connect with those characters sadly like i could Spike.

It's okay. More escapist, and possibly to exp. other 'culture' (Most weeaboos don't realized it's an export culture)

For the same reason people watch movie and read books etc.

>>9305286
They definitely can be, that of course doesn't mean they always are. You simply can do things in anime that are not possible in regular film.

>>9305336
For example?Dont give me the "big eyes" bullshit, seriously.

>>9305286
I don't agree with you completely, but nor do i disagree with you.

Watching real actors do real acting is..amazing when it's good. (I recently watched Little Miss Sunshine, that was such a fucking great movie)

Anime tends to be more consistent though. Always somewhat okay to decent. Samey characters, but they all get along a little. There's no acting involved, just voice acting. I see their 'deep plots' but i find it no more interesting than western stuff.

I dunno, i think weeaboos are a little...close minded in some resepcts.

Well I once thought about giving anime a try but then I realized nothing good would come of it, it's basically a hobby for losers.

I think some people just like the goofiness and escapism of all of it.

Funny anime exists.

Pic related.

Also, >>9305033 pretty much said it otherwise.

People like stuff because they want to escape the cruel reality. Let it be anime, videogames, drugs, anything.

You know what's funny? I hate Gundam and TTGL watchers more than I hate non-anime watchers.

>>9305352
Big eyes really makes a difference, or they wouldn't do it.
Even evolution manipulates humans with big eyes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoteny
See: uselses but big-eyed chiuaua

other things: facial expressions, camera angle, character movements, describing character thoughts, coloring and environment.

I've always been attracted to the art style, and I started liking anime before I became a complete fucking loser.

Maybe it's to blame? Well, I know it isn't since I'm aware of the circumstances surrounding my descent, but to an outsider the correlation between becoming an anime fan and becoming a loser is undeniable.

Playing devil's advocate is lovely.

>>9305381
This answer isn't sufficient because regular film can be construed just as easily as escapism. There are tons of fantasy movies/tv/etc books even.

I never got the appeal of anime once you realise it's following the script of a manga. That and I lost interest after a while. I guess I grew out of it. The only manga I read are because I've invested way too much time into them and I want to see how they unfold, but once they have I'm not going back.

I suppose the appeal is the same as reading books or following TV shows, a mix of escapism and it's a social tool to have conversations about with someone else who watches the same thing.

>>9305327
Higurashi is the only good from your list of 10s
you suck big time pretentious asshole
the fact that you don't know what the fuck it is about but others say it's deep and stuff doesn't mean it's 10

There's no point in talking to any of you about it anyway, since you're so ill informed.

>Elfen Lied
>GITS
>Evangelion

Why don't you just judge all of anime by watching Pokemon?

>>9305393
>the correlation between becoming an anime fan and becoming a loser is undeniable

don't cast your opinions of yourself upon all others. i watch all the good anime i can get my hands on and noone in a million years would call me a looser, not aware of my anime-watching.

>>9305403
Yeah, but it's different. Some people get excited about elves and fairies and shit while I can't suffer them at all. For me it's all about cute girls doing cute things, and it helps that they've out giant eyes on their oversized adorable faces.

>>9305352
watch Macross zero
or Karas
OVA's 5eps a piece
both a visual sci-fi spectacle which would've cost you a budget of a small country to film normally...

tl;dr: cheaper special effects

anyway I do acknowledge that animu IS somewhat of an excuse to overlay shitty cgi upon a drawn world - but it MUCH cheaper and looks awesome... unlike the effect of the slightly shitty cgi being able to completely ruin a film as it stands out too much.

>>9305247
>Less normalfaggines
I knew it was you pathetic anime-obsessed fucks that used this retarded word. You are the same pieces of shit that plague this board with your trivial autistic relationship queries aswell. Go and fucking die.

Best example I can think of, if you include liking manga as "liking anime:"

Oyasumi PunPun

>>9305389
>facial expressions
If you mean that shit with the tear you gotta be kidding me
>camera angle
To some extent yes.
>character movements
I dont get what you are trying to say with that one.
>describing character thoughts
Its not like there arent inner monolouges in film/television
>coloring and environment
Digital coloring and CGI.

>>9305425

Where the fuck's your reading comprehension you giant mong.

I said it would look that way to an outsider who wasn't aware of the real reasons why I became a failure. I didn't say that anime was the cause, I was saying that people would be likely to think that.

Anon's Top 5:
Azumanga Daioh (the original Slice of Life anime)
Lucky Star (haters gonna hate)
Neon Genesis Evangelion (almost gave me a nervous breakdown wayback when)
Haruhi (zOMG out of order broadcast brilliance)
Higurashi (Season 1: MURDER LOLIS!)

gurren lagann is perseverance and awesome
Baccano is style and fun
sword of the stranger and samurai x is historic action
cowboy beebop is stylish 90's in space.
blue sub no 6 is catastrophe and navy
Spice and wolf is speech and economics
ghost in the shell stand alone complex and solid state society is politics, technology and future
08th ms team is war psychology and war happenings
death note is a game
gunsmith cats is guns
infinite ryvius is the human tribe and small-scale society
dennou coil is tech and children
saikano is struggle and helplessness
now and then, here and now is perpetuity of evil
flcl is penis metaphors / wild
Legend of the Galactic Heroes is old politics, war and society in space.
hyakko is friendliness
clannad after story is modern tears
evangelion is some psych
serial experiments lain is philosophy
elfen lied is blood
yotsuba (manga) is innocence
memories is human systems n stuff
miname-ke mess around triad family
golden boy modern wanderer

Not an all inclusive list, but all good except maybe for elfen lied and saikano depending on the person.

Must-watch tier:
Ghost in the shell Stand alone complex
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Cowboy beebop
Clannad after story

>>9305457
You just gotta watch anime to understand. Watch the good stuff, and watch the bad (but popular) stuff. Derive your own conclusions. I'm not defending it, just attempting to explain its popularity, esp reg otakus/japan whatnot.

What does the average anime fan think about manga influenced comics/graphic novels like Scott Pilgrim?

Pic related.

>>9305502
Bebop has one e.

I know what you mean OP.

Used to love watching anime when i was younger. Had a lot of good laughs with it, but as I got older it just became embarrassing, bland, disturbing (in a bad way) and most of all, perverted. Personally, I don't find any of this new, neo-angsty-loli-grim-dark-nudy-moe crap appealing. Dont get me wrong, I know that there IS some what funny amine series out there but most of it just seems forced and rehashed.

Had to stop watching the shit, but a friend of mine (whose probably on this site) lives and breathes it. Which, what ever do your thing, but a lot of times he'll act like a character of various series and when drunk psychically trying to inflict moves he seen from naruto, etc Its shits and jokes for like a minute but then always gets out of hand, so always end up leaving early. Really really concerned for him...

>>9305412
>The fact that you don't know what the fuck it is about but others say it's deep and stuff and you want to rage for not seing it waht it is abou...

Ah what the hell?! What suffices to be said is:

!!! What's the matter too DEEEP for you?

(Meant as an irony upon the ironious context in which this phrase is usually used, thereby to convey its genuine direct meaning... as you might have well been able to read into... but just in case this explanation - it's here!).

I used to watch it because it was entertaining, but honestly now when I do watch it is because I don't have patience for western television.

Hear me out, I am not shooting down western TV, there are shows I enjoy, but I don't have the patience for TV as a whole. Just to follow a show I have to follow it for 3, 4 maybe up to 10 seasons just to see the whole story.

With most anime, at least most of the drama shows, it is 1 maybe 2 seasons. In the time it takes me to watch a string of movies I can watch the whole series and feel actual closure with it.

elfen lied was gay

>>9305381
And wuts funny about that?

I would agree that most anime isn't funny. I mean, comedy anime can be funny in an amusing way and definitely enjoyable, but not laugh out loud funny.

Besides Detroit Metal City. That shit's hilarious

There are a few mangas and animes that are bearable, but in general, most have uninteresting and unoriginal plots that leave me confused as fuck as to what's happening.

American comics > Japanese Comics

I grew up with cartoons and anime.

Why the fuck would i abandon them?!

Just because normalfags think it is not good or whatever other petty reasons?

Lol, you are really a loser if you can be manipulated this easily.

>thread about anime on /r9gay/
these are always filled with huge idiots, trolls, and /a/nons wasting their time

I tried to watch anime but whenever it comes down to those horrible, LOL SO RANDUM XD ^_^ facial expressions, I just switch off the screen. It looks stupid when during an important plot, the main characters face freezes, his eyes get all big or unnaturally small and cross signs start showing on his head or a teardrop or some shit. Seriously - WTF is that? And the worst part - it's in EVERY FUCKING ANIME! Well, ok, in 99.9%!

PIC FUCKING RelATED

>>9305655
I have one word for you (well for most of this thread):

MAMORU OOSHI

Thank you for your time!

OP here. I must admit I liked Akira, Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away. Mostly due to the fact that they were not cheap looking, good artwork and ok story/characters.

But other than that when I see anime serials, I just don't get the appeal. The faces almost aren't moving and everything is progressing so slow and booring.

I just do. But even then, I admit 95% of it sucks copious amounts of dick.
As for humor, I thought Cromartie was pretty funny. Same with Yotsuba&!.

Also, your pic is a godawful anime.

>>9305671
Cowboy Bebop.

You never watched it.

I fucking hate Anime, BUT THAT SHIT WAS GREAT. It felt very nice and western. None of that shitty japanese music either, some nice jazz.

l am a nerd. l am an introvert. l fucking hate anime.

Anime isn't funny because the jokes are always so fucking Japano-centric. And when they attempt visual humour, its usually some fucking moeface doing over-cutesy wankery.

Mind Game is an example of an anime that bucks the trend though, and I highly recommend it.

>>9305381
Cromartie Highschool is another example of accessible comedy anime

I prefer western shows like Two and a half men, Law and order, and NCIS. I used to watch dragon ball z and Digimon while back, but I don't really like many other animes. The last one that I liked was death note.

There are maybe 2-3 TV shows I like.
The wire. Scrubs.
There's like 20 anime I like.

Anime's just got more good stuff imo.

>>9304998
Try Golden boy, Cromartie high, Detroit metal city, maybe miname-ke, hyakko.

>>9305703
aha, but I have - t'was truly nice!

Also can someone enlighten me as to why everyone get's so pissed if you tell them the "Knocking on Heaven's Door" movie was by far the best part of the umm... "franchise".

I don't get it either though I do like masturbating to it.

The males of one beetle species find orange females highly attractive. There is a soda bottle in Europe that is a darker shade of that orange. Male beetles will starve to death humping this soda bottle because they find it so attractive.

The same thing is at work with anime. Anime girls are hyper-attractive versions of real women and weeabos would starve to death before abandoning their waifu.

>>9305823
They're a bunch of fanboys. They seem to hate whenever sony makes anything

I will NOT say it was the best part of the franchise. But it was REALLY nice.

The movie itself was somewhat bad. But god damn the star wars rip off fighter scene was epic.

>>9305918
l have saved this post for future animu threads

>>9304998
DESPAIR! THE INTERNET HAS LEFT ME IN DESPAIR!

The same reason people became hopeless comic book nerds.

Now with comic books replaced by a medium with agreeably higher quality art (The comic book side has made a comeback in this category, alebeit borrowing some drawing techniques from the japanese side), people flock to that instead. Escapism, entertainment, plain and simple. Only now we have ongoing plots instead of villain-of-the-week with loosely constructed plots.

tl;dr the same reason there are superman nerds.

The only anime I could actually sit and watch is samurai champloo english dubbed of course.

>>9305953
I took it from a post on /a/ that actually had a picture of the beetles humping a soda bottle.

>>9304998
There are Japanese inside jokes that only "Otaku" will get (as well as actual japanese people). Alot of anime uses these Japanese jokes, hence the illusion that it's only funny to obsessive otaku. On the other hand, there is plenty of anime that makes use of more universal humor. It's just not as popular among the extremely vocal otaku and thus not well known.

>>9305973
>dubbed

AHahhaha, pitiful baka gaijin peasantry.

>>9306011
He is a troll.
That "of course" was the bait.

Its foreign, exotic, and unpopular in America. Introverted kids tend to latch onto subcultures that emphasize difference from the mainstream (usually in an effort to feel superior).

>>9305286
>Good actors

Holy shit, they exist? As in, real talent and not just editing together the good parts?

>>9306037
this doesn't explain its popularity in japan.

>>9306011
Baka Gaijin?

Even the Japanese don't go around calling everyone with differing opinions Baka Gaijin Peasantry. Seriously, if you're a bon fide weeaboo, you just failed at becoming part of your idolized and idealized GLORIOOSE NEEPON culture.

What? You think anime is my only hobby? Sure, I have other japan/otaku related hobbies like reading visual novels but I listen to music, I draw, I do olympic weight lifting, I do metalworking, pottery, I started guitar, I play games.

Why do I need to give reasoning to my hobbies? I just like them. Something about anime clicks with me and has stayed with me since I started watching DBZ in elementary school.

>>9306051
IT ISN'T.

ITS A FUCKING EXPORT CULTURE. It's like David Hasslehoff and germany.

>>9306026
Either way, dubbed is the only thing i personally can stand.

>>9306051
It's popularity in Japan can be explained the same way you can explain cartoon network's popularity here. Betcha there are introverted Japanese guys who live for western stuff, too. (of course, we don't seem to draw girls as hyper-attractive "moeblobs"....)

>>9306101
Export culture.

Tell that to 2ch.

Funny i saw this thread, since i was just thinking about this shit earlier today. See, i have my fare share of older Japanese animations on VHS from the 80's and 70's and theyre mindblowingly awesome once you face the reality that theyre cartoons. Kiddy shit you know, Bugs Bunny and all them wackos. Except these have very dark and mature themes, gross overuse of blood, violence and the whole nine yards with a helthy mix of nudity thrown in. I was amazed at these adults cartoons, because before i knew about their existance all cartoons were kid crap.

Trying to size up these works against the generic plethora of Japanese animation you see today is like night and day. Im not even sure what im trying to say here, so ill just end it with this: I fucking love those tapes to death, and would still watch them today if i still had a VHS player.

This discussion has pretty much gone into a loop, with the same stuff being repeated over and over because SOMEONE has to have the last word and WIN TEH ARGUMENTZ. /thread

Space cowboys, epic music, guns, space ships. hot girls, and a little comedy and a lot of action.

One of my favorite animes ever. If you do not know this anime, you should be shot.

>>9306159
Please tell me that two of those tapes are Fist of the North Star and Dominion Tank Police.

I'm finding it really difficult to get into it again. I watched it as a kid (Bebop, Outlaw Star, DBZ), and got back into it a few years back only to fall out of it again.

I enjoyed the really colourful and exciting realities that the old shows offered - something that I could not get from Western 'cartoons'. I got excited at the prospect every Saturday night of seeing Aisha Clan Clan and my nigga Edward and brilliant, eventful worlds that they came from.

I guess that would be called escapism.

A revived interest came through 'trying out' philosphically piquant animes und mangos like Welcome to The NHK and Serial Experiments. This was short-lived, because I don't really give a shit about deep thinking or introspection, and such mental stimulation wasn't really what I watched anime for. Code Geass was a breath of fresh air, but I got pissed off because of the repetitive plot format and unchanging music.

Then I smoked pot and died. True story.

>>9306252
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>>9306252
How about you watch tegenn toppa gurren lagann

>>9306293
Yeah, when I said Code Geass, I meant Gurren Lagann.

I've never watched Code Geass; it looks gay.

It's so cute and fun !


I don't think i can really explain it. I've just always liked anime.

damn it! I wanted a second season for Outlaw Star. Now I am nostalgia fagging hard over here.

Do'h

Shit!

Thanks guys, haven't watched the latest Yugioh Abridged episode that come out last week.

Dammit i love that series.

>>9306222
Not sure about Fist, but im positive that i have DTP in the pile. One of my favorites along with Legend of The Overfiend series. That one really blew my mind in what people were doing with cartoons, i couldnt believe it at the time, but with all the hentai and shit we have now it seems rather stale and boring.

>>9306363

for some reason, sci fi and action/adventure animes are not as popular with the Japanese as they are in the west. Outlaw Star and Trigun did better and were more popular in America then they were in Japan.

Each one of the anime lover's responses is wrong in so many ways that it would take me an eternity to explain to them, in great detail and depth, why it is exactly that their chosen love and obsession is so terribly, terribly misguided and untrue.
However!
I will simply say this; anime is fine for what it is - a cheap, fun thrill. Most all of it follows the same sort of plots and lack creativity. For all the anime that people say are "creative", they are really in fact clones of the other approach to anime, of which there are two: simpler, and "oh my god it's so complex I don't even BEGIN to comprehend it". An example of this: the ending scene of Princess Mononoke, where the head of of that bizzarre creature beast suddenly turned into liquid and then the entire world tried to eat the fuck out of everything and then suddenly went away. What the hell? That's not storytelling. Real storytelling involves actually explaining a plot, or leaving good cues so the audience can pick it up along the way - not just throwing in "omgbizzare" imagery at the very end, or throwing it in in the middle and not giving us ANY idea of what the hell it is.

And I fucking LOVE Princess Mononoke! It's one of the best animes ever made - because that bullshit was relatively small and the movie could be understood without understanding that. The real mind fuckery comes from films like Ghost in the Shell, where it's just "what the hell?"

Anyway, I'm high, so yea, um...that's about half of of one of the reasons why anime sucks so much. But now I'm gonna go do something else that's more fun.

You are just thinking of social retards and their waifus, which are a reasonably large part anime fans as a whole, but still, only a part.

I don't like how all kinds of anime get lumped into one category because of their drawing style. Hollywood sitcoms are just that, sitcoms, they aren't lumped in with every other 'real' tv show into a single category.

What's that? Because anime characters all look the same? Real humans in live-action tv all look the same too.

Brb enjoying my nice life with a real girl who likes my ecchi wallpapers and craves my dick about every night.

>>9305033

Thread in one word.

>>9306026

I wasn't trolling seriously I've watched it both in japanese with subtitles and the english dubbed version and I prefer the later. All other anime is shit and the one I'm gonna watch is going to be the one I can understand. Also FUCK READING

>>9306432
i agree with this and i am from /a/

>>9306488
>BRB sizing my e-peen in a thread on 4chan because you know people need to know about your non-existant life on a god damn anime thread none the less.
Chill out dude, we got this.

I've seen only two animes, Death Note and Cowboy Bebop, and they both were _very_ well scripted and drawn beautifully.

>>9306559

You have to watch Spirited Away.

>>9306793
I highly doubt I'd like something that has a little girl as the main character.

>Notice how mostly nerds/introverts become anime fans. What could be the reason for this? Why exactly anime?
Because anime caters to our interests. It is specifically made with people like us in mind. There is no other medium like it.

>Also, another interesting thing I have observed - anime is never funny except to people who are fans of anime. Sure, there are good anime movies, I'm not a hater, I'm trying to be objective, but anime is never, ever funny, even when it tries hard to be funny.
I mostly agree. I don't find a lot of anime funny, and I don't find Japanese humour in general funny. There are exceptions, but most of it is based on the same old manzai pattern.

Guys like anime because they all have one average-looking skinny guy who has to save the world and/or has 20 different hot girls fawning over him. They wish they could be that anime guy.

>>9306917
It's actually really good.

Watched Cowboy Bebop myself, i usually dislike anime, but spirited away is one of those things that is awesome.

It's like how you went 'd'awww that was a cute movie' in a manly way during Little Miss Sunshine.

OP, people don't really choose what they like. This is important.

I like shoujo stuff. There is no reason I would like it. I also like Jazz. Why Jazz, I'm white and my parents don't listen to it even? I love beer. Half of my friends don't even drink.

People like what they like. It is not really under their control. People who pretend to like things are called "tools" and "fakes".

>>9306917

bro, that movie is considered one of the most classic and well made animated movies ever made. Not to mention it won an academy award. Amazing production value and the story and characters are top notch. Hayao Miyazaki does not even consider his movies "animes".

>>9307080
To consider spirited away and howls moving castle an anime is, well....
I'll get bCk to you. I really liked them both when I was younger

Its a different form of humor, from the east. A baka gaijin like you would not understand.

>>9307063
>>9307080
Well, I'm hesitant because I actually saw Princess Mononoke a while back and didn't like it much. It got some awards too, but it just somehow wasn't my cup of tea :|

It's the same thing with any other genre of show.

Why focus on anime?

>>Also, another interesting thing I have observed - anime is never funny except to people who are fans of anime.
It's not funny to you because you are not Japanese and obviously hold no knowledge of Japanese.

The funny parts get lost during translations a lot of the times, and honestly to understand a lot of jokes you have to know quite a bit of japanese pop culture.

That is the reason why anime is not funny to you.

Other than that anime can be enjoyable, I used to watch it alot, and read manga. But now I only read manga, but it's been taken away by google :(

You want a good anime? I recently finished Baccano!

1930's gangster murder supernatural anime. Well written and drawn and none of that stupid cliche anime stuff. also short.

Anime is not a genre, anime is a medium, and with a range so vast that there is usually some for everyone.

I mean shit OP, you might as well have asked why some people like music.

Man, I'm not gonna read the whole thread.

I'm guessing they like it because it's a way of feeling like children again.
I'm nerd/introverted but not a big fan of anime. I like some really much, like Cowboy Bebop or Ergo Proxy to name a couple of my favs.
But I find 90% of anime incredibly boring or stupid.

I never liked shonen, not even when I was a child. I really did try to give most popular shonens a chance.

As for the newer moe anime I just don't get it.

>>9307246
While this is true, the majority of anime is smut aimed at lonely men. Unlike manga, which is read by everyone in Japan, anime is much more of a niche medium.

Man, I'm not gonna read the whole thread.

I'm guessing they like it because it's a way of feeling like children again.
I'm nerd/introverted but not a big fan of anime. I like some really much, like Cowboy Bebop or Ergo Proxy to name a couple of my favs.
But I find 90% of anime incredibly boring or stupid.

I never liked shonen, not even when I was a child. I really did try to give most popular shonens a chance.

As for the newer moe anime I just don't get it.

My escapism are videogames rather than anime.
Final Fantasy, etc
The plots are not better than the average anime, but for some reason I really get obsessed with them. If it was just anime without gameplay I wouldn't watch it.

>>9307310
>As for the newer moe anime I just don't get it.
"Moe anime" is not new.

Seriously, this is the only anime I haven't found too cringeworthy to watch. And it's made by an american.

I can't do it guys. Sorry.

>>9307349
What have you watched?

There are plenty of shows which are more serious. If you're interested I could recommend some. As another Anon said, anime is primarily a medium and you'll find various anime in any genre.

>>9307345
Forgot to say, I did love Galaxy Angel, if you can call that moe

>>9307319
>While this is true, the majority of anime is smut aimed at lonely men.
Most of it is not all of it, there's still some of it for everyone.

Counterexample, western show. Why do people so love western shows? It's mostly just sitcoms and cop shows.
Mostly is not all of it though, Carnivale was AMAZING.

>>9307349
Try Death Note. It really draws you in and it has a superb story. You should at least read up on it.

>>9307320
To me, playing JRPGs feels like watching some tedious shounen anime like Bleach. I enjoy watching anime and spend a lot of time on /a/, but I prefer western RPGs.

I mostly read manga because it lets me be a closet comic nerd. As for anime, I'm just a sucker for good animation (artfag here). And stuff like Bebop, Evangelion, I see more as art than anime. They're insanely deep at some times, and full of pop culture and such.

I do watch Naruto and Bleach, which I am ashamed to say is a guilty pleasure, akin to some people having random television shows as theirs. That and seeing as I started some manga years ago, I feel like I almost "have" to finish it.

I just have a thing for animation.
Cartoons, anime, CG films, artsy toons.
They all give me a boner.
Actually I have a boner for the visual arts.

>>9307423
Well I call it crap, but that's just me.
But then one show being crap does not imply they all are.

Because where the hell else are you going to find crazy premises like "A pessimistic teacher with suicidal tendencies teaches a class full of kids with various mental problems"? Man those Japs come up with some crazy shit.

>>9307427
>Most of it is not all of it, there's still some of it for everyone.
I would never deny this.

However, OP asked why anime is popular among introverted nerds, and most shows being made specifically for them has something to do with it.

Sure, you'll probably find an anime for pretty much anyone, but only those who also enjoy aforementioned smut are likely to get stuck and keep being interested in the medium.

>>9307510
I'd watch that, what is the name?

>>9307423
I wouldn't call anything "moe anime" because it's not a genre, but it has plenty of characters I, or at least lots of others, would consider moe.

I enjoyed watching it too.

>>9307536
Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei.

to any weeaboo who will take pity on me, what does 'gaki' mean?

>>9307536
Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, but it's very "Japanese" and contains plenty of cultural (general Japanese as well as "otaku culture") references.

You could give it a try, I enjoyed watching it a lot, but you shouldn't be surprised if it's not your kind of show.

Anime is for pussy ass losers who love moeblob faced bitches, and people who can';t fucking draw. real men like real cartoons, like Heavy Metal and Lady Death and Spawn. Only good anime is Dragonball Z, and Fist of the North Star, rest can suck my dick.

>>9307557
brat; kids; (2) {Buddh} preta (hungry ghost); ghoul

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/cgi-bin/wwwjdic.cgi

>>9307516
Introverted nerds just have far more time to spend in exploring esoteric shit. A complete lack of social life life leaves a void that needs to be filled, and anime makes for an easy mode option.

>>9307628
Smartest post in the thread.
Basically the lonelier you are, the more susceptible you are to esoteric movements. For some it's anime, for others JRPGs.

I'm not saying you can't enjoy those if you have a social life, but you probably won't enjoy them as much.

>>9307628
Sure, but there are also other things they could do. For some reason anime seems very appealing, and I don't think this is a coincidence. This is specifically because plenty of anime are plot- and execution-wise relevant to their interests.

Shows about lots of cute girls falling in love with the bland and boring main character. Despite a lot of fanservice, the main character often being extraordinarily shy about sexuality, and actual sex or relationships hardly ever being present and the shows focussing on "getting into relationships" rather than being in one as their audience couldn't relate to that. Certain, mostly predictably acting (thus not intimidating) female character archetypes, etc.

Of course there are exceptions, but these patterns are very present and thus appealing to a certain demographic.

real esoteric shit is stuff like the occult, anime isn't esoteric, it's just the same generic plots and shitty characters rehashed

>>9307778
It's not like certain character archetypes or plot-patterns were unknown to other media, and it's not like there weren't exceptions, however, a lot of anime is indeed rather formulaic. This isn't necessarily a bad thing though, because obviously people who enjoy watching anime like it that way.

I most certainly do, because seeing a tsundere blush never gets boring.

>>9307700
>>9307628
How come anime is esoteric ? I thought esoteric was new age bullshit and Lopsang Rampa and buddhism and shit.

Your post is fucking retarded, people like anime because of the same reasons they like anything else, either they independantly thought it was cool, or they're into it for socialising reasons. Also you can't generalise like that, Akira isn't the same as fucking bezblade (or some other proper anime shit). Shiit.

>>9307855
You could simply look up the word.

>Definition:

>1. restricted to initiates: intended for or understood by only an initiated few

>2. abstruse: difficult to understand

>3. secret: secret or highly confidential

>>9307778
>real esoteric shit is stuff like the occult, anime isn't esoteric,
They both can be applicable really, since both play little part in the lives of most normalfags, and since wicca/magick//x/ dorks are about as prolific as anime ones.
>it's just the same generic plots and shitty characters rehashed
Is it? Cool. I only ever watch about one series or less each year and so I'm yet to spot the overlaps.

>>9307855
Things that don't make any fucking sense and only a retard could find interesting.
That's the definition of esoteric. It applies to both anime and new age.

I mean, it's an alchemist with a brother that is actually an armor.

Why do people come to 4chan if they don't like anime? It's a website based on a Japanese system. I mean are people so stupid that they come here and see all the Japanese shit here and then whine about it? It's ridiculous! Shut the fuck up or get the fuck out.

Wow OP this is actually one of the philosophical questions I often ask in my meditations.

We can argue WHY people like anime, but this is obvious.

I've watched Satoshi Kon's filmography, and I am astonished at how many and strong feelings it can evoke in myself. I like understanding feelings, how they originate and how to control them, and anime's feelings are veeery weird, they just feel "weird" (and I hate that word).

It must have something to do on the exaggerated expressions, but I can't fully understand it.

Now what we should be really arguing about is WHY the anime phenomena is SOOO BIG and exaggerated. Why anime and not music for example? There aren't pillows with Slash's photograph!

Anime is taken to incredible extrems. And I can't conceive why this is so.

>>Also, another interesting thing I have observed - anime is never funny except to people who are fans of anime.

Go watch 3 stooges and tell me if thats funny. Its not, unless you grew up watching it.

anime is funny after you've been exposed to that brand of humor for a while. and anime tends to reference jap. culture and other otaku interests, so they get the jokes.

Baccano! and Mushishi are two good anime to start with if you have never seen anime before, and are both considered classic / without flaw. I guarantee any of you will enjoy watching both, unless you don't give them a chance.

>>9308057
>based on a Japanese system

you shut the fuck up. As if that has any relevancy whatsoever. The users decide the content, not some other arbitrary system.

>>9308116
>and are both considered classic / without flaw
No anime is without flaw, and neither of the two are classics since they are fairly new.

Though I enjoyed watching Mushishi, and Baccano! isn't that bad either (even though it's overrated).

>>9308116
Fuck yeah, Mushishi.
But that's one of those animes that are good in a traditional way, like most seinens.
But most anime is popular for totally different reasons.
So mushishi is not a good case to study why people like anime.

>>9308176
He has a point though.

People not interested in anime are most likely newfags.

>>9308022
>I mean, it's an alchemist with a brother that is actually an armor.
That's the second dumbest thing I have ever heard. I don't even want you to tell what anime you are referencing.

>>9308214


jesus mate, 4chan has been around for a long time now, it's not a secret club anymore. Not to mention the other vast number of imageboards that ave sprung up and have many boards for regular topics.

>>9308265
It should be, because cancerous newfags are not as likely to know how to fit in spouting nonsense like "not a secret club any more".

>>9308197
>not a good case to study why people like anime.

no, just a suggestion for those who have never seen anime and would be willing to look at the stuff that isn't really popularized beyond /a/. Most people have the mentality that shows like "Naruto" encompass all of anime, because it and the other two big shonen (One Piece and Bleach) are the only anime that are put mainstream on american television (hell, even some theaters). There's much more to anime than just shonen.

>>9308192
fair enough. I agree that, at least on /a/, it's generally considered THE BEST ANIME OF ALL TIME and overrated as all hell. Personally I think it's one of the best, but certainly not THE Best. Still probably the best as a starting anime.

So, why does anime come from Japan?
Japanese, well Asians in general are always working in groups. Why would they need esoterism?

Somebody give me some recommendations.

Last two anime I watched where Code Geass and Gundam 00.

>>9308445
Iono, good question, why does all Bollywood come from India?

>>9308481
Let me rephrase it
Why do Japanese enjoy anime?

>>9308346
>at least on /a/, it's generally considered THE BEST ANIME OF ALL TIME
It has a vocal fanbase, but it's hardly considered as sacred as Legend of the Galactic Heroes or Cowboy Bebop for example.

>>9308459
Depends on what you like.

I found both Code Geass and Gundam 00 fairly mediocre.

If you haven't watched it already you should give Monster a try. Also, Akagi and Kaiji. Akagi being a bit hard to get into because it assumes a certain familiarity of the viewer with the game Mahjong, but even if you have no idea about the rules it's still incredibly entertaining. Legend of the Galactic heroes is probably the best anime I've ever watched, but it's an enormous epic of 110 episodes and fairly old as well, but definitely worth watching.

Anime is for children and manchildren who cannot grasp the complex workings of written literature. It is basically an ersatz consumerist artform which like McDonalds Big Macs fuels addictions so that more of it can be brought. Anime is like the Souljah Boy of literature, appealing only to feable brained immature youths who are consumerist pawns.

>>9305580

>as I got older it just became embarrassing, bland, disturbing (in a bad way) and most of all, perverted.

I'm struggling with this right now. I like anime as a hobby. I don't watch a lot of it (at most I'll be working on two series at a time) but the stuff I watch I enjoy.

The problem is maintaining this hobby with such a stigma.

Anime I find worth watching are becoming fewer and farther between, but I still like it. I think people are walking away from it as a hobby/medium for weird reasons.

The community to me is the best thing about anime. I didn't have that growing up in a small town where it was frowned upon to like computers and any music outside the top 40, let alone something as foreign as anime.

Nowadays a lot of people enjoy geeky hobbies like anime in large groups. It goes against the idea that anime fans are introverted and like isolation. I see them playing games and doing improv comedy.

I read the entire thread to review what exactly I watch anime for, so I'm going to present it because I think my case is somewhat unique:

-I enjoy hearing languages I don't understand, I really like how expressive the VA's are in anime and their made up inflections. I have no desire to learn japanese, and if I listen to a dub I immediately dislike the anime involved.
-I like cartoon porn, because I watched cartoons as a kid.
-Its extremely imaginative. My favorite manga and anime has got to be One Piece, I love how vast and detailed the world is made out to be and how appealing it is.

>>9308696

I really say if you don't know shit about mahjong, watch Kaiji.

Well then again, I just consider Kaiji greatly superior to Akagi in every way.

>>9308809
I watched Akagi without knowing anything about Mahjong (I didn't even know the game existed) and I still enjoyed it. But he might as well watch Kaiji, it's a good show too.

>>9308696
I'll try Legend of the Galactic heroes.

Too bad /a/ is shit.

Truth: Anime is no better than Twilight

>>9308924

Ghost in the Shell is rad

>>9308915
Give it a few episodes, it takes a while. But after a while you should be completely hooked. It's epic - most literally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7grjXe2Eyo

>>9308924
Truth is not the same as trolling, I think you are confused.

>>9308915

Yep. A lot of the shows that get talked about on /a/ have no appeal to me whatsoever, and people go on and on about them. Fucking Angel Beats...

I would personally recommend To aru Majutsu no Index. It's based on a light novel so it actually has a plot that was planned and thought out, the characters are intriguing and it's dark enough to feel edgy but not so dark that it becomes depressing. I implore you to check it out.

>>9309199
Yeah I don't like harem shows, so /a/ is shit to me.

>>9309199
>>9308915

The thing about /a/ is that we're all fanatics, so we'll watch the not-so-great stuff like Angel Beats and still heartily enjoy it, KEYSHIT or no. It's not necessarily that our taste is bad, it's that our taste is broader: we can make time even for things that aren't the best of the best.

That said, I think AB is alright, even if it would be greatly improved with a lighter touch on the sob stories. And admittedly there are plenty of kiddies aboard with really shitty taste.

kaiji is really good

The only anime worth watching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD0qyXMjb1s

>>9309199
It's by Key, I'm surprised you are surprised.

>>9308915
Once in a while a good LOGH thread pops up on /a/. It's not discussed regularly though.

I like cartoons when I was a kid,
Anime is just like grown up cartoons.

The imagination is never ending with the tip of a pencil

>>9309200
And I would advise against it because it follows a harem pattern and makes heavy use of stereotypes. Unless you like that kind of thing.

>>9309200
I don't see the point in Shonens

I was always neutral-to-positive towards anime, until an otaku friend of mine dragged me to an anime convention.

Shit's fucking gay. The subculture behind anime is shit. Some anime is genuinely good (artistic, creative), but as far as I can tell, none of the people I saw were very much interested in those animes, but more towards the bug-eyed little girl shit that's popular nowadays.

Anime isn't even popular in Japan. Manga on the other hand are.

>>9309200

Jesus christ, no. Index is a hackneyed trainwreck, and Railgun's only slightly better. Either should only be viewed if you plan on posting on /a/ all day.

What's really enraging is that the author has some interesting ideas, but they're all buried in tropes, poor presentation, and really bad attempts at drama.

This is said as a guy who watched it all and has a couple hundred Raildex images laying around. It's just not very good.

how can arcanine can be this lenient to anime?
what happened?
you have let me down? I will be gtfoing soon.

>>9309529
You found Railgun better? Strange world.