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    44 KB Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:27:42 No.9071106  
    Greeting all you people.

    If you're reading this, you were born, and probably grateful during being a fetus that a doctor didn't scramble you out of your mothers womb.

    All the people who believe abortion is okay are simply wrong. It's not okay. It's not okay to rob a child of his life and soul. God expresses this wish explicitly, and it is our duty to obey him, it is his will.

    Anybody who has had a baby killing abortion should be ashamed, and repent everyday for any chance of eternal salvation.

    No need to thank me, I'm just being a good Samaritan and trying to help all of your souls.

    Thanks for listening, and spread the word.

    How would you like to be that poor lost soul spending every day for eternity in Purgatory?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:28:43 No.9071122
    this is such a blatant troll, and i just know it's going to get about 5000 responses
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:29:38 No.9071134
    What is a troll? I'm trying to save all of you god forsaken people, who blatantly deny gods will.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:29:40 No.9071135
    1. there is no hell, salvation or such a thing as 'souls'
    2. fetuses don't have rights

    /thread
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:29:47 No.9071137
    Wasn't there something in the BuyBull about cutting open women's stomachs and dashing their babies against a rock?

    God is clearly against abortion.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:30:23 No.9071147
    look, that kid finished the rubiks cube

    what a fuckin genius
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:30:37 No.9071151
    Nice Rubik's cube, Mr. Unaborted Fetus.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:32:05 No.9071168
    >>9071151

    Well, thank you very much. It's amazing to think of what people have accomplished, and depressing to think of the children who suffered do to this barbaric cycle of life.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:33:32 No.9071183
    Brerbrehbreh god abortion souls brehbreh bad brehbrehbreh jesus breh fetus brehbreh
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:34:01 No.9071188
    >>9071168

    Being committed doesn't make you a better troll.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:34:15 No.9071192
    An aborted fetus is a terrible thing to have in your house, especially if
    you are having friends over for dinner. Yes those nasty little bastards
    will rip you house clean down to the foundation, if they so desire, and
    make for very unwanted dinner guests. Nevertheless, Fetus the Destroyer sends
    his servant aborted and miscarried fetuses out on the job; they must succeed.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:34:53 No.9071202
    Todd and Cindy were a happily married couple in their early thirties. They
    were very sociable people, and went often to parties and other social
    gatherings. It was time to return the favor and invite some friends over for
    an evening of chat, food, wine, cheese, the general goody-goody bullshit
    adult party. Good idea? Yes. No. Hell no. Todd and Cindy did not know of the
    Fetal Existence. Yes one of those slimy little underdeveloped bastard fetuses
    was slopped down in a lawn chair in the garage.
    The friends arrived. "Oh hi come into our happy home! Let me get you a
    glass of wine and pick your nose for you!" and other such friendly little
    uncalled for gestures. The fetus heard these people having a merry and jolly
    time. He could not STAND it. He hopped down on his tiny little legs and
    wobbled over to the stairwell. He pulled his way up and snuck into the den.
    Luckily no one was around, so he snuck into a broom closet. One of the guests,
    being a tremendous dumbass, spilled her drink on the tiled kitchen floor.
    "Oh just get a mop out of that closet and it's no problem to clean it up."
    The fetus grabbed a broom and steadied it in his underdeveloped hands.
    The guest opened the closet and grabbed a mop.Her eyes turned pale and big.
    The fetus stared onward through its large black eyes, futher horrifying the
    lady.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:35:31 No.9071219
    >>9071188
    Actually, caving can make a legendary troll a weak troll. Persistence alone won't make him much better, but sticking to your story makes everything better.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:35:42 No.9071221
    "Good evening bitch. How must I beat thee?" With this the fetus rammed
    the broomstick down the lady's throat so she could not scream for help.
    He then removed it, having demolished her throat, and began violently
    beating the shit out of the lady. The lady was critically hurt and fetus
    stopped. With her last strain of life the lady looked at the fetus and
    said "You son of a..." but the fetus stopped her and finished her,
    "..bitch? Son of a bitch? No my mommy aborted me." and with that the
    fetus whacked her over the head with a powerful whap and cracked the
    bitch's skull. He dragged her into the closet before her brains had a
    chance to ooze out of her head.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:36:28 No.9071243
    Mary kiIled her baby. Billy the Stud Punk had raped her and gotten her
    pregnant. She aborted the baby. The baby was discarded but it grew into
    a fetus by Coathanger's will. Fetus the Mighty took the apprentice fetus
    under his control and sent it out on a mission to find Mary.
    The fetus traveled to the mall with a baseball bat in hand. He entered
    a back door at the loading docks of Sears. He had to bypass a nearby
    security guard. Easily handled. The fetus snuck up behind the guard and
    squeaked "How must I beat thee?" The guard turned around in a daze and
    drew his night stick in a daze; he saw no one behind him. The fetus
    conked the guard's foot with the bat and the guard looked down upon the
    grotesque slimy fetus. The fetus said "Aah, I know how I must beat thee."
    With that the fetus slammed the bat into the guard's groin. The guard
    doubled over in pain, and the fetus slammed a mighty slap of the baseball
    bat into the guard's skull. The fetus grabbed the cerebellum of the
    guard's brain and began to snack on it. The fetus dropped the baseball
    bat and picked up the night stick. It walked off, still munching on the
    cerebellum.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:36:30 No.9071245
    Someone explain what a troll is. OP here.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:36:55 No.9071250
    wow, it might have passed for a non-troll at first. But yeah. If you want to convince people about abortion, don't try to mix religion and "respect for life" ... there may be a plurality of people here who do believe in God or gods of some type, but there is certainly a majority who disagree with what you think He says. Your pseudo-theology isn't even consistent enough to identify yourself with a "true believer".

    If you want to talk about how it's good to be alive and not be aborted, that might actually go somewhere... not into "abortion must be outlawed" land, but maybe "abortion is something I actively want to avoid doing."

    And /r9k/ is, like the rest of 4chan, full of middle-class white virgin males. I seriously doubt one in 10,000 robots would need to "repent" of an abortion.

    In closing, go back to /*/ with ye.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:37:07 No.9071252
    The fetus crept out into the main area of the mall. It wandered up
    and down the mall incessantly, unnoticed by the passing crowds. Aaah!
    Who did the fetus see? MARY. Mary the Bitch. Mary the Aborter. Mary the
    KILLER. The fetus wanted Mary DEAD. He did not intend to go away
    unsatisfied.
    The fetus willed in power that only Mary see him. He willed that no one
    else notice Mary. Mary saw the fetus. And she screamed. Damnit, why the
    hell did they all have to SCREAM and SHRIEK so loud and long? She
    screamed a scream of Death. Yet no one noticed her. She tried to grab
    people and beg for help, yet she passed right through them. The fetus
    had willed her to pass into an invisible dimension with him.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:37:39 No.9071260
    He tapped
    the night stick against his hand and said "Um mm mm. You just HAD to
    have that abortion, didn't you?" Mary was utterly confused, and frightened
    to say the least. "Who the hell are you? What demon are you?"
    "Demon, bitch? Demon? I am the child you killed."
    "But..but..I was RAPED! I couldn't have carried you inside me!!"
    "Oh no excuses, you loose whore!" The fetus leaped onto Mary's chest and
    sunk its razorlike claws into her breasts. Mary shrieked again and the
    fetus pissed in her mouth. "Shut up bitch!" The acidic urine burned Mary's
    throat to where she could scream no longer.
    "How must I beat thee? Ah yes, I must..." OOOMPH! The fetus shoved the
    round end of the night stick deep into Mary's vaginal tract. Through
    the clothes he pushed it. The fabric snapped and ripped, and the night
    stick rammed its way up. The fetus jerked it out quickly and whapped
    Mary over the head with the hard stick. Mary slumped to the ground and
    the fetus ripped off a breast for an afternoon snack. It walked away.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:38:18 No.9071274
    You know, there are plenty of upper class and upper middle class couples who are infertile and who still want to raise children. You can have your baby, and not feel the crushing guilt that surely results from knowing that you murdered your child.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:38:41 No.9071281
    Susan was a strange young lady. She lived a very desolate life, and
    always seemed to possess a certain strange quality of deceit. She lived
    outside of town in a relatively large house, all alone.
    On a cold, damp spring day when the sun had completely set, Susan
    lit a candle beside her bed and prepared to go to sleep. She heard a popping
    noise from upstairs (she slept in the basement most of the time) and went to
    investigate its source. Upon arriving at the top of the staircase she
    noticed that the back door was cracked open a few inches. She made no effort
    to return to the basement, but proceeded to scope out the upstairs rooms.
    She walked into the bathroom and clicked on the light, and found a large
    burly man standing in the corner. He was holding a .44 with a rather long
    barrel, which was pointed directly at Susan. "Alright bitch, let's go back
    downstairs." Susan was a little hesitant, but with a nudge from the cold
    steel barrel she hastened to the stairwell. They arrived at the foot of the
    stairs, and the burglar ordered Susan to place all her money and valuables
    in a paper sack, which he took from his trenchcoat and shoved into her hands.
    Susan did not wait; she went over a chest of drawers and removed a small
    box. In it was a thick roll of bills, which she dropped into the sack. She
    told the criminal that this was the only thing of value she kept in the
    basement. The criminal disagreed. "You haven't given me everything. Lay down
    on the bed over there." Susan did so. "Now take off your clothes. Slowly
    now. I want to see what I'm up against." Susan did so, although this time
    she seemed very hesitant. A fire was welling up in her eyes, although it
    went unnoticed by the criminal.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:38:42 No.9071283
    >>9071250

    Sir, you obviously need to seek out and find the love of God and the savior Jesus Christ.

    I'll be praying for your soul.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:39:21 No.9071291
    >>9071281
    Susan stripped herself to complete nakedness.
    The criminal removed his trenchcoat and removed his ragged and dirty shirt.
    He dropped his torn jeans, and ripped down his underwear, revealing his
    already stiffened dick. Susan scare turned to sarcastic hate. "What a nice
    dick you have. I imagine it's be much bigger if you'd stop whacking off all
    the time." The criminal got very angry and shoved the barrel of his gun
    some inches into Susan cunt. "Hey bitch, don't get smart with me. This thing
    won't stop down here. It'll keep right on going up that cute little body of
    yours and rip your fucking brains out!!" Susan's fiery hate built at a steady
    pace. The criminal stood at the end of the bed admiring the lips of Susan's
    pussy.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:39:53 No.9071302
    >>9071291
    As he climbed up onto the bed he heard a demonic roar. It was not
    a human sound; it sounded more like that of a beast in a horror film. Susan
    glared at him; the roar was coming from within her. Her face turned purple
    and growled menacingly at him. The criminal stood dumbfounded, he could
    not figure it out. Susan propped herself up on her hands, her back to the bed.
    Her cunt was at the criminal's eye level. The lips of her twat spread
    open wide, some two feet. In the chasmic hole nothing could be seen but a
    redness of a burning fire. The criminal turned to run. Susan let out a final
    roar as she heaved and thrusted her hips in and out. SLLLLLLOOOOOSSSSHHHHH!
    A large something-or-other was hurled out of Susan's vagina, aimed directly
    at the fleeing criminal. This something landed on his shoulders and looked
    around into his face. It appeared to be an aborted fetus, for the criminal
    did not have time to look. It ripped a gaping hole in the side of the
    criminal's neck and climbed in. It clawed its way down through his torso,
    through his abdomen, and into his large intestine. It crawled out the
    criminal's anus and puked up a large ball of shit. With that the fetus, the
    criminal, and all of the blood and gore disappeared into thin air, and
    Susan reclothed herself. She blew out the candle and fell into a lulling
    peaceful sleep.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:40:34 No.9071308
    >>9071134
    What is a troll? A miserable little pile of shitfests!
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:40:44 No.9071311
    Recently I had a disturbing revelation concerning the abortion issue. Whether
    it was a prophethic insight from Fetus Himself or just a little common sense
    reasoning, I came to the undisputable conclusion that the abortion controversy
    should be ended and the long-cursed procedure be legal to any woman who might
    want it performed. I pondered my decisions after reading Bloody Afterbirth's
    "The Final Conflict". I have cast my decision. My thoughts and opinions are as
    follows.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:41:18 No.9071323
    Abortion is murder

    end of story. All abortionists will burn in hell, but whether the mother will only god can decide.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:41:29 No.9071324
    >>9071311
    l think we can all agree that this planet SUCKS. The American government, the
    political structure designed to give us the ultimate freedom, is betraying its
    people and instead giving them the ultimate PRISON. The big corporate bastards
    are polluting our waterways, the air which we breathe, and the common materials
    we use in our homes. Paper contains deadly dioxins from chlorine-bleaching
    methods, when much safer oxygen-bleaching can be used instead. With the
    increase in toxic waste production, few measures are being passed to control
    the waste and reduce the volumes produced. Instead, the overflow is being
    dumped into lakes and streams to poison and kill the lifeforms found there.
    Pollutants are dumped by the tons into the atmosphere, contributing largely
    to acid rain and to the ozone-layer destruction.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:42:00 No.9071334
    >>9071324
    So what? I imagine most of you are thinking, "Yeah, I already know this, but
    I can't do anything to stop it." Bull fucking shit. Read my "Supporting a
    Safer Environment" file. Organize local rallies and protests. At the rate
    we're going, the planet will either be completely gone by the year 2000 or
    we, the true population, the environmentalists, will have ousted these
    corporate bastards and enstated world-wide environmental efforts and
    measures.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:42:19 No.9071341
    I do not support abortion because I believe all life deserves a chance, not because HURF DURF JESUS AND GOD ARE ANGRY YOU MUST PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS HUUUUUURRRRR
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:42:30 No.9071344
    >Anybody who has had a baby killing abortion should be ashamed, and repent everyday for any chance of eternal salvation.
    >baby killing abortion
    I see what you did thar. Since no abortions kill babies...
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:42:37 No.9071346
    >>9071323

    If the mother seeks out the holy lord, she shall be forgiven.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:42:44 No.9071349
    >>9071334
    Well, what does this have to do with the abortion topic? Everything. As l
    tie the environmental disasters into the highly-debated abortion topic, I
    have merely one question to pose to everyone reading:

    If you got pregnant, or got someone pregnant, would you honestly want to
    bring that child into this dangerous chemical world that your parents'
    generation had utter fucked up, where the government won't even re-legalize
    hemp, the only plant that, right now, would have any impact on SAVING this
    planet and reversing the greenhouse effect?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:43:16 No.9071357
    >>9071349
    That 80-column five-line question may be a little run-on, but I don't think
    any of you, with maybe even the slightest touch of intelligence, would
    answer "yes". If I got some chick pregnant accidentally, I would DEMAND that
    an abortion be performed because I could not live with myself having to
    bring a child into a world of hell and destruction.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:43:43 No.9071368
    >>9071341

    I will be praying for your soul too, I really hope you find salvation.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:44:00 No.9071374
    >>9071357
    It has been predicted by thousands that hemp will once again become legal
    before the year 2016. It is a WEED. It will grow almost ANYWHERE. The
    overwhelming POSITIVE IMPACT this green plant would have on the environment
    and the economic structure of the world's countries is almost incomprehensible.
    Yet the government continues to fail to see this profound benefit. It is
    almost like it is AFRAID to see the plant re-legalized for fear that it will
    lead to the downfall of the government. They walk blindly and do not see the
    facts. They continue to wage a war against the miracle plant. They waste
    millions of tax dollars and borrow millions of dollars to fight a fruitless
    and neverending battle.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:44:10 No.9071378
    What is a fetus?
    A miserable little pile of babbys!
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:44:51 No.9071393
    >>9071374
    l would never allow myself to bring a child into a world so poor as this.

    Abortions should be legal for those who desire such an operation. The church
    consistently protests that abortions are immoral and that lives are being
    taken sinfully. There is no backing behind this. The only reason the church
    and anti-abortion supporters have as much influence as they do is because
    Christian religion is seen everywhere; it is the accepted doctrine of America.
    There is no such thing as "separation of church and state". They are the
    same thing. Religion as Christians see it is not religion; it is politics.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:45:34 No.9071405
    This troll is as old as walking forward.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:45:54 No.9071408
    >>9071393
    This is why anti-abortion activists are winning.

    So, then, does this mean that environmentalists are separate from Christians?

    In my eyes, yes.

    The Christians are the ones poisioning Mother Earth. A type of "war" is
    beginning to be waged against environmentalists. The protectors of Nature are
    being fought as if they were drugs. The American people are seeing
    environmentalism as a "fad". Some think it is like a drug. Some can't live
    with it, so they wage the war on drugs again.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:46:09 No.9071412
    >>9071393

    Fellow Anon, I believe you are misguided. Seek out your local church and they will give you a bible, and help you find your way to salvation. You will be in my prayers.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:46:31 No.9071419
    >>9071408
    If I accidentally got a girl pregnant, the only way I would accept my guilt
    by letting that child live is if I knew it would become an avid environmental
    supporter. If I knew this child was not to grow up in the Political Religion,
    I would gladly see it be born and watch the miracle of its growth.

    As far as I see it, abortions are legal and moral as depending on the parents
    who conceived the child.

    /end.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:48:39 No.9071444
    >>9071419

    You should learn to appreciate the wisdom of our lord and savior.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:49:22 No.9071454
    hi trollbot. don't believe in an afterlife, and not catholic therefore, no purgatory. also if you are a female troll and your father rapes you do you keep the even more disturbed little trolling in your womb?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:50:18 No.9071472
    >>9071444
    >>9071412
    Wow, you truly are a terrible troll. I give you a well-thought out argument and the best response you can give is "go to church"? Hah. Try a little harder next time, or this time, really. You can still save this trolling attempt. Try to combat those paragraphs. Or just let it go.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:50:46 No.9071481
    >>9071393

    So take the fucking pill then. Or use some fucking spermicidal lube.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:51:55 No.9071499
    >>9071472

    First of all, whose a troll? Second of all, it is true, seek God and Jesus Christ, and all will be answered. I do not hold the answers for you, it is your duty to seek out the wisdom and learn for yourself. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers, and hope that you find your way.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:54:55 No.9071543
    >>9071499
    you are a troll. can't even use proper grammar... and you still didn't even answer my question.

    If you were a female, and your father raped you, do you keep the unborn child?

    if you can't even answer a stupidly simple question, I see no point in your life continuing.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)18:57:47 No.9071586
    >>9071543

    Sir, all life should be given a chance. No I would not terminate the pregnancy. As for telling another human they should not continue their life, again, I hope you seek salvation one day. It is not my place to judge you, I shall leave that up to the Holy Lord.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:00:29 No.9071628
    >>9071586
    you and your hokey religion. ok, prove to me that your religion practices the one true form of christianity. you can't all be right.

    explain 1 Corinthians 15:29 elaborate and expand on it for me.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:05:02 No.9071681
    >>9071628

    Try to stay on topic, baptism is not what is the main concern here. I'm trying to help all the misguided souls, help them to find the light, if you do not respect the religion I worship, please, don't question my beliefs as you are trying to.

    I'll leave you to the lord.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:05:28 No.9071689
    Shit, had I known abortions didn't get into heaven then I wouldn't have had all those abortions!
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:06:40 No.9071702
    >>9071681
    I'm atheist. Convert me to your religion, if you can do that, I might conform to your beliefs.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:08:13 No.9071730
    >>9071702

    Nobody is forcing you to conform to anything, sir. As I had said, if you do not believe, then I'll leave you to the judgment of the lord. I've tried my best.

    Perhaps one day, maybe in the near future, or maybe even on your death bed, you'll regret the decisions you have made, hopefully, it will not be too late.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:09:31 No.9071749
    Help me, 4chan:

    My girlfriend is an atheist but very strongly against abortion. She's on the pill but I still fear.

    What do?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:10:29 No.9071761
    >>9071749

    Bring her to church to speak with the clergy. Perhaps they can convince her against her sinful habits.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:11:02 No.9071767
    Fucking Americans.

    God doesn't exist, you inbred, idiotic cunts.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:12:00 No.9071781
    >>9071767

    Sir, such hate and disdain for fellow life is unnecessary, I hope one day you will find yourself on the right path.

    You'll be in my prayers.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:12:05 No.9071782
    >>9071730
    all you're preaching is anti-abortion. how can you convince anyone to your position, if they don't believe in god in the first place.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:12:58 No.9071799
    >>9071749
    Punch the shit out of her stomach every morning just in case.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:13:47 No.9071814
    I was raped, and I did not want the bastard child. Should I have killed him/her after birth instead of aborted?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:13:55 No.9071817
    >>9071106
    Oh look a troll
    *takes picture*
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:13:58 No.9071819
    >>9071799

    Sir, that is just uncalled for. Some people cannot be saved. Unfortunately for them, they know their final destination, and where they will spend all of eternity.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:15:03 No.9071832
    >>9071814

    Every life deserves a chance. Perhaps if you had practiced virtue you would not have had this problem, the lord will have the final judgment over your soul. I will be praying for you.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:15:19 No.9071836
    >>9071781

    I don't hate 'life' or fellow humans. On the contrary, being an atheist allows me to assign all of life's joy and wonderment of humans.

    Not to an invisible, stone age fairy in the sky.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:15:30 No.9071842
    I was almost aborted yet Im actually very pro-abortion. You know why? because if I was aborted then none of this would have mattered anyways. Damn religious fanatics and their retarded superstitions, fuckin annoying
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:15:38 No.9071844
    >>9071681
    >don't question my beliefs as you are trying to.
    he says this as hes questioning others beliefs. wtf
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:16:47 No.9071863
    >>9071844

    I'm not questioning your beliefs, I am merely trying to help guide you in the right direction.

    The lord and savior will be questioning your beliefs, I am not him.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:16:50 No.9071865
    OP is 13 years to late for the ironic coathanger of justice to prevent his trolling. Sombody invent a time machine.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:17:42 No.9071880
    >>9071865

    Sir, I hope you find salvation some day.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:17:54 No.9071884
    >How would you like to be that poor lost soul spending every day for eternity in Purgatory?

    I dunno, I guess it'd be kind of meh.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:18:05 No.9071887
    In my opinion abortion is a simple thing regulating the human population growth.

    We have developed ways to treat cancer, we have penicillin, we have basic hygiene and we have abortions.
    Without abortions the world would be horribly overpopulated.

    If you're against abortions you also have to be against modern medicine and contraceptives. Think of this.

    I'm female and truly believe this, I'd never get an abortion though, it does mess with your mind after all...
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:19:26 No.9071914
    >>9071880
    And I hope I can go back in time and stick a hoover into your mother's vagina.

    SHHHLLLOOOOAAARP. PLOP.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:19:40 No.9071917
    >>9071887

    We are not ones to question the Lord. He has a purpose for everybody. Over population is just silly, how would we invent those treatments for cancer or penicillin if the creators had been aborted?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:21:00 No.9071941
    >>9071914

    Again, I cannot help everybody. Some day, in this life or the afterlife, you will see the error in such hostility and vulgarity.

    I'll be praying that you find the right path, and can eventually come to terms with the lord.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:21:38 No.9071949
    >>9071917
    #1 Penicillin was discovered not invented. lrn2fungus
    #2 Someone else would have. Herpaderp.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:22:52 No.9071971
    Unless someone is on your side, how can you convert them to your ways?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:22:58 No.9071974
    >>9071949

    Sir, instead of looking at the facts, you've resorted to petty name calling. I hope you find the true path some day, before it is too late.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:25:00 No.9072023
    >>9071974
    Tu quoque Brutus.

    I did use names, because I think adorable little trolls like you deserve to be fed, but unlike you I included a point with my ad hominem.

    The very fact that it's disputed whether Fleming was the actualy discoverer of penicillin is just some evidence to support what I said.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:25:52 No.9072036
    >>9072023

    Nonetheless, had he not existed, things would have been different, right?

    What if somebody else had not been in the right place, with the right education?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:27:34 No.9072077
    >>9072036
    What if Fleming's parents had aborted him and then had a child who not only discovered penicillin (although probably not because, like I said, chances are someone got there first) but cured cancer?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:27:52 No.9072081
    ITT: OP doesn't realise that contraceptives and abortions are forbidden in Abrahamic religions because large families are poor, poor families are uneducated and uneducated families are easy to manipulate.

    Enjoy being a slave to a tired old web of lies, OP.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:28:30 No.9072088
    >>9072077

    We'd be in a better place :)

    Either way, each life deserves a chance. I hope you find the right path some day, I really do :)
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:29:45 No.9072106
    >argument depends on religion

    Fucking retarded / 10.

    Abortion lowered the crime rate significantly, by the way.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:29:51 No.9072109
    >>9072088
    Well poor Alexandra Fleming (that was what her parents would have called her. That's right, she was a woman, and would have struck a great blow for equality) never got her chance. RIP Alexandra.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:31:06 No.9072131
    >>9071887

    >regulating the human population growth.

    First of there is no human population crisis. And secondly
    what gives you the right to live instead of someone else then? If you can't respect a most basic of a person's right to live than that is a far more imminent problem than an overpopulation crisis will ever be.

    Abortion is as much a murder as any other murder. If anything it worst because the victim is a defenseless infant who never had the chance to live.

    What makes abortion acceptable for most people is that society doesn't view it as a taboo anymore something I still can't wrap my mind around.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:31:32 No.9072137
    >>9072106

    You can't use crime as an excuse of slaughtering an innocent life and soul.

    Perhaps one day you'll see the light, you'll be in my prayers :)
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:32:50 No.9072157
    >>9072137

    It's not alive you dumb nigger.

    If I shoot my load right now then by your logic that's like millions of abortions.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:33:18 No.9072165
    >>9072106

    >Abortion lowered the crime rate significantly, by the way.

    derp derp
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:33:39 No.9072171
    >>9072088
    1) Take a fertilized human egg.
    2) Wait for it to divide... oh, let's keep it simple. Once.
    3) Physically separate them. You now have two viable eggs, each a single cell. (identical twins)
    4) Now, fuse them back together. Now you only have one viable egg, with two cells.

    Does the above kill a person? If so, why? If not, why not?

    Note that all of the above is actually possible.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:33:54 No.9072176
    >>9072165
    It's true. Less niggers.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:34:18 No.9072182
    >>9072157

    Your sperm is meant for procreation, they are living things you know.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:34:41 No.9072188
    >>9072131
    >>First of there is no human population crisis.

    Hahahahahahaha.

    And condoms encourage the spread of AIDS and the holocaust never happened, right? You might as well tell me the earth is flat.

    Anyway, go away, none of us believe in God so we don't care about your threats of hell. It's pointless, see? You are only annoying people.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:34:56 No.9072189
    >>9072165

    Yeah bro excellent counter point.

    Did you bother thinking about it? Babies that get aborted, it's usually because the mother is unable to support them financially or doesn't feel up to it. Guess who commits the most crime? Poor young people.

    Yeah that's right you fucking retard, the human brain is a wonderful thing with it's ability to make connections between seemingly disparate factors. Try using yours next time.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:35:46 No.9072207
    >>9072137
    "Politeness wins the confidence of princes"

    Except here there are nothing but trolls.

    However I appreciate there are other like minded people!
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:36:54 No.9072224
    lol

    fetal demise makes me smile
    fetal demise makes me laugh
    fetal demise makes me giggle
    fetal demise is in your ass
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:37:10 No.9072231
    >>9072188

    If you desperately need to justify your murder, the lord is always going to be there when you're ready. :)

    I'm hoping you'll make the right choice, an eternity is a long time to spend in hell.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:37:19 No.9072233
    >>9072188

    Haha it won't work! I know my facts. Prove me wrong!
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:38:12 No.9072248
    >>9072207

    Politeness is cool, but using an argument that hinges on religion and acting like everyone should accept it is anything but polite.

    I am not a christian. It's nice that you believe that, but I don't accept that my country should legislate based on your beliefs.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:38:48 No.9072262
    >>9072233

    If you knew the facts, we wouldn't be having this discussion :)

    You'll find the right path some day, I'm sure of it. I hope to see you in heaven, and we can laugh about this one day.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:38:55 No.9072264
    >>9072231
    >>9072233
    http://biocab.org/overpopulation.html

    Learn.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:39:25 No.9072271
    >>9072188
    > condoms encourage the spread of AIDS
    i loathe the papacy, but the shitstorm over his statement enraged me. Why?

    he said "condoms don't solve everything [regarding sexual unhealth], rather they increase the problem". He MEANT that sexual carelessness / fornication were the problem, you fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking fucking morons

    fucking morons!
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:39:34 No.9072272
    >>9072189

    >implying abortion isn't murder.

    I'm sorry if in your country you let a few buttsex loving niggers influence the highest law on what is defined as murder or not. Here abortion is still murder.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:41:04 No.9072296
    >>9072271

    Abstinence, it'd be the right choice.

    There wouldn't be any worry about HIV/AIDS if we practiced it.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:41:38 No.9072307
    >>9072271
    He was speaking to uneducated Africans. All they got out of it was 'condoms are bad.' Oh well, if it means more dead Catholics then I'm fine with it - but the Pope should have a guilty conscience. Not that he gives a shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:42:01 No.9072314
    >>9072264

    I did now perhaps you should reread it and indicate to me where is this problem. I'll spare you the effort if you want. It's just a myth.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:42:01 No.9072315
    i hate these dumb posts. maybe i'm in the wrong place.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:42:57 No.9072337
    Who gives a shit about God? You can't see him, you can't talk to him, and he does fuck all. If he hates abortions and gay sex why did he let us invent abortions and gay sex
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:43:14 No.9072344
    >>9072307

    Sir, such hate is unnecessary, I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers and hope you can find love in the lord :)
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:44:16 No.9072363
    >>9072296
    If we practiced it we wouldn't have any fetuses to abort.

    How else would we get our kicks, eh?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:45:33 No.9072388
    >>9072363

    If murder is fun to you, you should seek out a clergymen right away, before it is too late.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:45:38 No.9072389
    >>9072307

    >uneducated Africans

    Exactly!

    They don't know enough to use contraception adequately and moreover abstinence is not some impossible science-fiction as your beloved sexually obsessed media wants you to believe and guess what it eliminates the problem (not just reduce the risk)!
    >> HANNIBAL: A PRINCIPLED, CONSCIENTIOUS BLACKKNIGHT 3++ !!3++be44MrZD 05/22/10(Sat)19:46:21 No.9072404
    >>9072271
    what pissed me off most about this was that first the media, then actual politicians, went around saying THE POPE SAID CONDOMS *CAUSE* DISEASE ZOMG THE POPE SAID CONDOMS CAUSE DISEASE THE POPE SAID CONDOMS CAUSE DISEASE THE POPE SAID CONDOMS CAUSE DISEASE THE POPE SAID CONDOMS CAUSE DISEASE

    fucking damn hell yo.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:47:51 No.9072437
    >>9072314
    Did you read it?

    There are things on this planet called 'resources'. Some of those resources are finite, which means there is only so much of them. Finite resources are being depleted and renewable resources, such as forest, are being deplated faster than they renew.

    We need some of these resources to produce oxygen and food.

    On top of this, the lowest standards of living: the very worst places in the world, are the places with the highest population density. It's all very simple. I suggest you read more or get a proper education.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:50:10 No.9072466
    >>9072389
    Africans will never turn to abstinence. NEVER. And they can certainly figure out how to put on a condom. You are insultingly racist. You really think Africans are too dumb to roll rubber over their penises?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:50:29 No.9072472
    >>9072437

    I really hope you find yourself of the path of ignorance some day, the lord loves you, he's ready to protect you.

    I'll be praying for you :)
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:52:34 No.9072515
    >>9072472
    You willfully ignore information provided with nothing but good intent. None of that information was contradicting or conflicting with your religion. You are insulting, condescending and stupid and if you were right in front of me right now I'd gouge your fucking eyes out for it. I hate your type. People who are not willing to learn are worthless. You are basically livestock.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:53:53 No.9072550
    >>9072437

    >It's all very simple. I suggest you read more or get a proper education.

    Well how would you know if I know more or less than you? In both cases my knowledge would seem ridiculous to you. And in fact you seem to be unaware of quite a few facts.

    Here, this should be easy enough for you to comprehend:
    http://overpopulationisamyth.com
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:54:16 No.9072562
    >>9072515

    Sir, you're welcome to your opinion. I'm content with going to heaven.

    I hope you'll join me, and some day you'll be able to put your petty hatefulness aside, and live in peace :)

    I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:55:34 No.9072588
    >>9072171
    I'm still waiting, OP.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:56:17 No.9072599
    >>9072550
    Rainforest is being destroyed much faster than it is regrowing due to the demands of a bloated population. Said rainforest produces 90% of the oxygen we need to live. You do the math, Einstein.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:57:56 No.9072637
    >>9072588

    To keep it simple, yes, yes it does.

    If you're eager to justify killing of a life, you should seek a clergymen immediately.

    God is always going to be there for you.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)19:59:15 No.9072656
    >>9072637
    What if I see the clergyman and he sticks his penis inside my anus because abstinence has warped his sexuality and inhibitions?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:00:37 No.9072683
    >>9072656

    Ah, I see you're the type that likes to make jokes to hide his insecurity. It's okay, god is going to love you conditionally.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:01:18 No.9072692
    >>9072683
    If he loves me then why send me to burn in hellfire for etenity?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:02:21 No.9072704
    >>9072692

    You have to be willing to accept him into your life :)

    If you commit blasphemy, what would you expect?

    I hope you find the right path, I really do :)
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:02:48 No.9072712
    >>9072466

    No and yes. No abstinence is quite easy especially for those who are still young and yes contraception hides a lot of risks.

    2 of 100 condoms are defective.

    The above is true only and only if the condom has been taken care of and opened as instructed.

    Condoms DON'T protect against all infections.

    7 steps must be done to wear a condom correctly.

    A condom belittles sexual pleasure and is found to be cumbersome by almost all it's users. That why in BRITAIN 35% of people aged of 17-25 have confessed to practice unsafe sex instead.

    Abstinence on the other hand is 100% effective, is easy to teach to youngsters and has other benefits such as teaching family values which more people in developed countries don't learn till well in their 30s.

    >>9072515

    Calm down! He's an impostor.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:03:14 No.9072719
    >>9071106

    At what point does a fetus have a soul specifically?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:03:38 No.9072729
    >>9072704
    You just said God loves me unconditionally. 'Unconditionally' means 'no matter what.' Were you lying when you said he loved me unconditionally?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:04:55 No.9072752
    >>9072729

    He does. People who do not wish to obey the simple commands he addresses need to be punished.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:06:28 No.9072769
    >>9072712
    I get trolled as a hobby, it lets me let off steam.

    And as for the issue of Abstinence vs Contraception, has Abstinence EVER been adopted by a youth population to the same extent as condoms in contemporary society? Condoms aren't 100% safe, but Abstinence is far harder to implement.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:07:38 No.9072790
    >>9072752
    Punishment without prospect of rehabilitation (eternal hellfire) is not an act of love. He does not love me if he does not try to rehabilitate me.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:08:29 No.9072799
    >>9072769

    The will of god cannot be forced upon others. AIDS is merely a perfect example of it.

    Abstinence = Avoidance of STDs. That is a fact.

    Perhaps people will learn one day, to hold off on the urges.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:08:42 No.9072803
    >>9072729

    You can't have anything better than the freedom He gave you?

    Look at farm beasts; they get to laze around all day until they are finally butchered. They die just as we do and they conduct an easy life yet they are imprisoned all the time. You on the other hand have total freedom from your Creator; you are the one choosing not God. Don't blame Him for your misjudgment.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:09:00 No.9072806
    >>9072790

    He has given you the chance, you choose to ignore it. Consider it tough love.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:10:51 No.9072836
    >>9072803
    Freedom is a gift, but love is forgiveness or helping someone. If I am not to be forgiven or helped after I die, then I am not loved after I die. Then his love is not unconditional.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:11:43 No.9072845
    >>9072836

    I'd have to disagree with you. I hope you find your true path, I really do. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:12:21 No.9072851
    >>9072769
    >EVER been adopted by a youth population to the same extent as condoms in contemporary society

    No it ABSTINENCE WAS ADAPTED BY VIRTUALLY EVERYONE FOR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS! IT ALWAYS WORKED.

    As for today, I myself live in a Catholic country where abstinence is the norm. Guess how many people get pregnant out of birth or get some sort of STI?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:13:08 No.9072860
    >>9072851

    *marriage

    alsotofeedthebot.jpg
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:15:35 No.9072883
    >>9072851
    >>ABSTINENCE WAS ADAPTED BY VIRTUALLY EVERYONE FOR HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF YEARS! IT ALWAYS WORKED.

    No it wasn't. Rape has been on a steady decline since the implementation of secular society, as has the damage and spread of sexually transmitted diseases. It was worse during theocracy. Much, much worse.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:17:09 No.9072900
    >>9072836

    Who is the one that loves unconditionally?

    The parent you imprisons his child and orders him trough life or the parent who teaches his child well and then let him experience life yet love him no matter what he gets into?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:17:14 No.9072902
    >>9072883

    You're so eager to justify your sins. I wish I could take pity on you. Some day you'll realize your grave mistakes, I hope for your sake that it is not too late.

    God's always going to be here for you. Trust in him, and you'll never regret it :)
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:19:07 No.9072920
    >>9072883

    Rape was never the norm or close to it and as far as I know rape is as much prevalent today as it was back then but I'll give you the benefit of doubt on that one.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:19:32 No.9072926
    >>9072900
    The parent who lets his child make their own mistakes is a good parent.

    Now, if that child led a bad life, so their parent dropped their child into a burning lake of agony, then left their child there for eternity, then that parent is a bad parent.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:20:04 No.9072932
    >>9072851
    which country is that?

    forfuturewifeprospects.jpg
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:20:27 No.9072936
    Actually I wish I had never been conceived. Abortion wouldn't have been so bad.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:21:23 No.9072953
    >>9072936

    You don't mean that :)

    Seek God, and you'll never go wrong :)

    You'll be in my prayers.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:22:08 No.9072966
    >>9072920
    >>Rape was never the norm or close to it

    Look up the homicide rate during the greatest age of Christian monopoly: the dark ages. 60% of people died due to murder. This has been discovered by examining their remains. Are you seriously trying to tell me that things have gotten worse since then?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:22:46 No.9072972
    >>9072883

    Right so applying your reasoning to laws in general; incriminating murder didn't work back than because back than a there were a lot of murders. They should have just asked people to dodge the bullets.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:23:10 No.9072981
    >>9072966

    You'll find the path some day, I know you will :)

    God loves you, always remember that :)
    >> renal failure !!d70H2S9P6XA 05/22/10(Sat)20:24:25 No.9072999
    this thread is now for dead baby jokes:

    whats the difference between a truck full of bowling balls and a truck full of dead babys?

    you can't a truck full of bowling balls with a pitch fork
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:25:05 No.9073009
    >>9072999

    Remember that god is omnipotent.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:25:14 No.9073014
    >>9072637
    You've left out the important part: Why.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:25:18 No.9073016
    >>9072972
    This post doesn't really make much sense. I was told that theocratically-imposed abstinence was successful. It wasn't. People were raped. There you go.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:26:05 No.9073031
    >>9073016

    You can't justify sinners sins.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:27:17 No.9073045
    >>9072932

    I'm sorry due to my paranoia of anonymity and me being unwilling to put any of my sisters to risk I can't reveal that.


    >>9072966

    Rape isn't murder and you fail to address other factors. You must be really slow not to understand what other factors might have possibly contributed to so many murders 600 years ago.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:27:45 No.9073056
    >>9073031
    I'm not trying to. I'm saying that abstinence does not work. Priest ignore it and molest children. Youths ignore it and have sex. Men with any kind of power ignore it and rape women. Abstinence leads to dysfunction.
    >> renal failure !!d70H2S9P6XA 05/22/10(Sat)20:28:12 No.9073065
    >>9073009

    >implying invisible sky daddy is real

    AtheistBlox
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:29:24 No.9073091
    >>9073045
    Rape is a violent crime. All violent crimes correlate. In times of war, women are raped, in times of lawlessness, women are raped. Things were not better a hundred or a thousand years ago, despite Christianity's larger influence.
    >> renal failure !!d70H2S9P6XA 05/22/10(Sat)20:30:13 No.9073109
    What's the difference between a dead baby and an onion?

    You don't cry when you chop up a dead baby.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:30:59 No.9073124
    >>9073091

    Some day you will realize the error of your ways, god will be ready to listen :)

    Listen to his words of wisdom, and you'll see the path.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:31:07 No.9073127
    >>9073016

    Yes it was. If contraception existed back then (and I'm sure some type did exist given the Egyptians used contraception thousands of years before then) the rapists would use it still cause they would not care and those others would either resist the temptation or marry early.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:31:13 No.9073129
    >>9073056
    Promoting abstinence doesn't work.

    Abstinence, as a contraceptive, does work.

    Abstinence as a policy of sex education/sexual health, doesn't work.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:32:39 No.9073153
    >See this thread
    >Read first few sentences, thinking this guy might have a decent argument
    >See god as his argument, realise I'm posting in a troll thread
    >> renal failure !!d70H2S9P6XA 05/22/10(Sat)20:33:07 No.9073158
    What is the differance between a dead baby and a VHS tape?


    The VHS tape don't stink when you leave it out in the sun
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:33:58 No.9073170
    >>9073056

    I like how all your examples are exceptions. Pretty much speaks for itself.

    Condoms are less safe in theory AND in practice.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:34:30 No.9073178
    >>9073129

    Truth :)

    OP here. I regret to inform you that I must depart.

    I'm sure many have seen this, many will have agreed. And if just one person will be changing their ways, then this will be a success.

    I wish peace and love among you all, God bless

    :)
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:35:06 No.9073192
    >>9073127
    >>Yes it was.

    No, it wasn't. Hence why syphilis killed so many more people than it does today. Syphilis which requires promiscuity to spread. And no, effective contraception was not widespread, since 'spilling your seed on the ground' is apparantly a sin and fuedal peasants had zero education. More medieval societies were behind the Egyptians in many ways.
    >> renal failure !!d70H2S9P6XA 05/22/10(Sat)20:35:32 No.9073197
    What's the difference between a watermelon and a dead baby?

    A watermelon floats.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:35:55 No.9073208
    >>9073153

    >Implying anyone can bring a decent argument against someone who believes that murder is not murder.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:37:22 No.9073227
    >>9073170
    Yes, but abstinence cannot be put into widespread practice. That's the point. It has never been implemented in a large, general population. So you have to use a condom. And the great thing about condoms is that you get to enjoy sex as well.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:37:40 No.9073236
    I'm sure that if I was aborted, I wouldn't really care.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:39:29 No.9073265
    >>9073208
    So every time a woman has a period or a man has a wet dream they are guilty of manslaughter? Because they are shedding cells that could become people.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:40:38 No.9073282
    >>9073192

    Masturbation is less of a sin than sex before marriage is. Syphilis killed a lot of people back than because a lot more people had sex at younger ages back then but hey, they were already married and fully devoted to building a family and frankly they matured much earlier than kids these days. And yes you should be aware they didn't have the same medicine as today.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:42:11 No.9073300
    >>9073282
    >>they were already married

    Syphilis cannot spread if everyone is monogamous. It can only spread if they sleep with multiple people. And it killed thousands and thousands of people. So they were not abstinent or monogamous.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:43:33 No.9073325
    >>9073265
    >could become people.

    lrn2science I believe is appropriate here.

    >>9073227
    It is here and it was back than too. You can't comprehend because the whole idea seems alien to you. It's quite a laugh how little self control you kids have these days.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:44:45 No.9073344
    >>9073325
    Calling me a kid is pretty rich considering that you do not know that a woman loses an egg cell everytime time she has her period.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:46:26 No.9073381
    >>9073300

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congenital_syphilis
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:48:24 No.9073413
    >>9073381
    Congenital siphilis cannot account for the explosion of growth it saw and, since siphilis is fatal (especially back then), congenital siphilis was self eradicating. But by all means keep trying, it's important that you realise things just weren't great back then.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:48:28 No.9073414
    >>9073344

    No, no I'm perfectly aware of that. I'm just seeing how much it ill take you to make 1+1......

    Or do you think that Catholicism is some sort of illogical joke.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:50:06 No.9073441
    >>9073414
    An egg cell + a sperm, before any kind of growth, is only a tiny amount more complex than either one in the early stages. We kill and eat vastly more complex lifeforms than that all the time. My toilet paper is made out of a more complex lifeform.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:51:27 No.9073456
    >>9073441

    lrn2reason
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:52:18 No.9073470
    >>9073414
    >Implying religion is logical.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:52:29 No.9073473
    >>9073456
    A theist does not get to talk about reason. How about actually offering an argument? I don't mind if you give up, but I'd be disappointed.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:57:18 No.9073542
    optroll's continued nurturing of this troll thread is astonishing to me, mostly because I know enough about Xianity to see that two positions he holds are incompatible. He takes the old-school Catholic view of Purgatory (even JP2 has cast some uncertainty on that, decades ago) and yet a very protestant/evangelical view on salvation. Obviously doesn't know fuck about actual religion, and yet babykillerfags and dawkinsfags are eager to satiate his trollpetite with extra feedings. fuck off a bridge of shit and die in a fire, trollfags and trollfeederfags.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)20:58:41 No.9073565
    >>9073542
    >>Doesn't realise there were two people arguing in favour of quite different interpretations of the bible.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:01:49 No.9073618
    >>9073413

    If you are aware of the origin of the disease in Europe it may occur to you that those where exactly Catholics saints. If you look at the well raised rural peasant families on the other hand I believe it worked great for them. And tbh I don't even care for your arguments anymore.

    My people, my whole country practices abstinence. Heck at the age of 17 I got enrolled in a Scottish University. It was a cultural shock for me. I don't think I did meet more than a handful of people there that were of the same opinion as me on abstinence. I dated three girls one of which was a 3 year long relationship. I never had sex or fooled around before I got married despite the many temptations I faced.

    To me it seems as much pathetic to be controlled by your dick, as to you the idea of abstinence is.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:05:57 No.9073674
    >>9073473

    In regards to what?

    Isn't it perhaps blatantly obvious the difference between a fertilized egg and anything else. Guess what will produce a completely unique human after more or less 9 months?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:06:18 No.9073681
    >>9073618
    Rural catholic peasants were hit by syphilis just like everyone else, you need to look at the STD rate of 'your country' and prepare for unpleasant surprise, and your opinions of me (as a result of me not being a virgin, as you correctly assumed) are totally false, but I forgive you, because in the last stages of an argument people often resort to foolish ad hominems.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:06:43 No.9073689
    >>9073618
    Abstinence: Controlled by your dick.

    Giant jumping jackalopes, people, you don't even see retardation of that magnitude on /b/.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:06:49 No.9073693
    >>9073618

    *weren't

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    >> tachikoma4 !cT4ikTgR2A 05/22/10(Sat)21:09:29 No.9073721
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    >>9071106
    Let me translate that post.
    >>HURDUR ABORTION HURDUR FAIL TROLL ATTEMPT.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:09:33 No.9073722
    >>9073674
    It won't produce a unique human if it does not grow. It'll just be a little lump of goo, much as you migh find floating in a pond. But, of course, argument against abortion generally involve the soul, which appears to be looming in the discussion. I do not believe in the soul, as every emotion and thought can be chemically mapped on the brain and clearly occurs due to the 'real' rather than something out-of-body or 'spiritual'.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:10:41 No.9073736
    >>9071106
    NOTHING TO SEE HERE, STEP AWAY FROM THE TROLL. DO NOT FEED IT!
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:11:02 No.9073741
    >>9073736
    Thanks, batman, you arrived just in time.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:13:12 No.9073784
    I was never born. I was scrambled out by a doctor. But before I died I quickly observed my surroundings and fled against that evil doctor and his murderous ways. I now work at an IHOP in Phoenix.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:13:56 No.9073794
    >>9073681
    I never said you weren't a virgin (I mean it's /r9k/ and everything). I was generalizing for the whole population.

    As for the STD statistics. I just checked my country's. Very pleasantly low thank God. Also they seem to coincide with a a small percentage of the population which have refused the Catholic teachings (which no aren't enforced on everyone).

    >>9073689

    You shall not be ashamed when you realize you misread my post. After all you are anonymous. Your e-penis shall not shirk!
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:16:22 No.9073831
    >>9073794
    Not my fault you can't write a coherent sentence to save your life.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:16:31 No.9073835
    >>9073794
    Wait what? I think you misread me. I am NOT a virgin, not have I ever been married, but I am only controlled by my dick in that it forces me to go for a piss once on a while. It doesn't make me a slave to my libido. Your life revolves just as much around sex as mine, because while I was obsessing over how to seduce a girlfriend, you were obsessing over how to avoid it. Having sexual experiance does not limit me in any way whatsoever.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:16:56 No.9073839
    All the normal people are going to purgatory.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:16:57 No.9073840
    >>9073722

    >It won't produce a unique human if it does not grow.

    Exactly! And how is that not murder. You are interrupting it's development. It's still would be developing into a human just like a child would be developing into a teenager so on and so forth.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:19:52 No.9073876
    >>9073840
    I'm interrupting the development of goo. The defining aspect of being human is abstract thought. A baby becomes a person when it develops it. The defining point of life as we use the term is the ability to respond to stimulus. A cluster of cells becomes a baby when it develops that. If it cannot respond to any stimulus, then it is impossible to be cruel to it. Sure, one unique being will not be produced, but there's plenty more where that came from.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:20:17 No.9073884
    >>9073840
    Here's how: It isn't a person.

    Is a child an adult? Is a seed a tree?

    A fetus is not a person in exactly the same way.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:21:35 No.9073902
    I was born to a meth addled teen mother. I suffered physical and psychological abuse at the hands of the revolving door of men she invited into her home. Now in my adulthood I work a minimum wage job at a waffle house to support my drug addiction. I will inevitably get knocked up and perpetuate the abuse/neglect of my past. My child will grow up to rob you for crack money and feed off the wellfare system. God I'm glad I wasn't aborted.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:22:47 No.9073916
    >>9073839
    According to Dante, purgatory is full of philosophers. I'd rather be there than a place full of fundamentalists. An eternity spent with the finest thinkers ever produced? That's my heaven.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:24:16 No.9073939
    >>9073722

    >It won't produce a unique human if it does not grow. It'll just be a little lump of goo, much as you migh find floating in a pond.

    Irrelevant of the nature of the embryo at that point; it's still need for the human to develop after conception. The embryo will develop in an infant if left developing. I think that human has as much of a right to live as anyone else.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:27:48 No.9073992
    >>9073939
    Better to have never existed than to be born to parents that do not want you or cannot support you. And before adoption comes into it please look at the lifestlyes of children in the adoption process.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:29:00 No.9074012
    >>9073876
    >>9073884

    The way I see it. If left alone it will develop into a child. It's not a child yet but it becoming one and it's specific identity was already created at conception. He has the right to develop.

    >>9073902
    You should thank God you even have access to Internet you spoiled brat.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:32:19 No.9074055
    >>9073722
    Even if it does grow. There isn't much to suggest it becomes unique anyway.
    >>9073939
    To be honest I don't feel that humans have that much a right to live. And I consider a human beings worth by their accomplishments, not by how alive they are.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:32:38 No.9074064
    >>9074012
    There are no rights, only privileges. If there were rights women would have a right not to be raped. They would have a right not to be forced to have a child they don't want.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:33:30 No.9074079
    >>9073992

    >Better to have never existed than to be born to parents

    Lolwut?

    You don't know what your talking about! Life is a gift. Everyone can do something useful with life. In your case childhood is just 1/5 of all life and heck I've been to the worst countries there are and the poorer they are the more they seem enthusiastic to live. You people don't know yet how valuable your life is.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:34:44 No.9074098
    >>9073916
    That sounds like a fine heaven for me.
    At least not so much with all the boring christian pacifists.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:36:23 No.9074133
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    >>9074079
    >>Everyone can do something useful with life.

    This baby can't. It is in constant agony. Now try and tell me it shouldn't have been aborted.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:38:06 No.9074162
    >>9074055
    >Even if it does grow. There isn't much to suggest it becomes unique anyway.

    lrn2science

    >To be honest I don't feel that humans have that much a right to live. And I consider a human beings worth by their accomplishments, not by how alive they are.

    Everyone has a right to a chance. You can't judge the accomplishments of the unborn.

    >>9074064

    >There are no rights, only privileges.

    Lolwut?

    >If there were rights women would have a right not to be raped.

    Yeah they do and you know it's not only women; men too!

    >They would have a right not to be forced to have a child they don't want.

    Yeah let's see: right of women not to bare child for 9 months < right of child not to be murdered
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:40:24 No.9074208
    >>9074133

    Why?

    Sure it shouldn't be aborted. It's not your right and not mine either.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:42:28 No.9074247
    >>9074208
    Everyone deserves to live in agony for 30 mins.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:42:44 No.9074252
    >>9074162
    We don't have a 'right' not to get raped because it happens anyway. A rapist does not acknowledge the 'right' not to be raped and so the 'right' becomes meaningless as it is ignored. We only have the privilege of not being raped. And the puddle of goop is meaningless and it doesn't deserve to be able to ruin lives. It's nothing and should be treated as such until it becomes something. A woman's rights > a fetus's rights as that woman is a part of the world around her. She matters to other people who will GENUINELY lament her misfortune.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:44:02 No.9074278
    >>9074208
    It lives in agony and will die soon. Are you really so disgusting that you think it should be forced to stay alive?

    That is truly foul. I'm actually angry.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:46:21 No.9074316
    >>9074278
    >it lives in agony and will die soon

    you just judged 100% of humanity to abortion.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:46:21 No.9074317
    >>9074079
    The only way life could be a gift would be if you were a slave. Yes, everyone can do something useful. But everyone can do harm as well, there are some situations where you should rather do something useful at a later date, rather than more likely do harm at an earlier one.
    >>9074162
    Having your own thumbprint does not make you special.
    And I can judge the accomplishments of the unborn. Potential is an investment, one that you can terminate.
    And one that you can make quite easily also.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:47:00 No.9074326
    >>9074316
    Quite funny, but bear in mind varying degrees of agony.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:48:55 No.9074360
    There are whole list of medical reasons why abortions are needed from a medical stand point. But I've got some pretty hopeful news for the OP and everyone on both sides of the debate. There is research going on right now to develop an artificial womb. The original reason is give parents an option if something happens to the mother and she is no longer able to carry the baby.

    What this opens up is the possibility of letting the government take over any pregnancy if the mother no longer wants the child. I see this as a win win, the mother no longer has to carry the child and the argument for destroying a life is eliminated. Now of course the system would be paid for with higher taxes, but big deal, at least this stupid debate would finally be finished :)
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:50:00 No.9074377
    >>9074360
    You now realise that the group attacking abortions will attack an artificial womb even more violently.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:51:55 No.9074408
    >>9074252
    You're misreading the word "right".
    A right means you have acknowledgement of something.
    No one has the "Right" to not be raped. (although in some places you have the right to rape) You have the right to your own defence, and the defence of the law. Whether or not either chooses to acknowledge or is able to is up to who and what that right entails.

    That being said. A foetus does not have the right to live. It has no rights. It's parents however, have the right give it birth or terminate it.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:53:18 No.9074437
    >>9074377

    why would they attack it? the purpose of it is the preserve a human life. The only thing they could attack is the taxes required to subsidize such a program, from what I've heard the child would be put up for adoption first, then it would become a ward of the state until they are 18. Their college would also be paid for through a special fund.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:55:06 No.9074473
    >>9074360
    All this does is increase the ease of getting a surrogate.
    And I doubt many women would like to not carry their baby. It's a hormonal thing after all.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:55:45 No.9074484
    >>9074408

    Once the artificial womb is developed the fetus will have the exact same rights as me and you. You don't want your kid, fine, the government will take it off your hands. Your hands are clean, you can do what you want, and nobody is killed.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)21:57:37 No.9074518
    >>9074473

    Your missing the point, if someone goes in for an abortion the fetus would be taken and put into an artificial womb. No more pro choice or pro life argument, the kid is born no matter what. It would be a law.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:02:04 No.9074583
    >>9074484
    I disagree, but I can see where you are coming from.
    A foetus is still under the decision of the mother, and many people would rather not have their kid taken away from them if they couldn't have it aborted.
    I don't feel that a persons hand is clean if they give up their child.
    Especially since many argue this in favour of avoiding a life of adoption.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:04:08 No.9074620
    >>9074518
    You didn't specify that.
    And that is absolutely fucking stupid too.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:05:00 No.9074630
    7/10


    rubixblox
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:05:36 No.9074641
    OP here

    I made this troll thread like 5 hours ago, you're still going on about it?
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:09:21 No.9074714
    >>9074641
    I only gave you such a high score as 7/10 for the insane responses. Actual troll post was lacking any major skill
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:10:19 No.9074726
    >>9074641

    meh i'll take it

    you'll be in my thoughts and prayers fer shure
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:12:54 No.9074759
    >>9074583
    >>9074620

    both of you will be voting against the religious people when this comes to a vote, it wont be anytime soon. It might not even go to a vote, it might just be classified as a human rights thing. Point is, if the artificial womb existed there would be no such thing as an abortion where the life is terminated. You don't like woman being able to vote? you don't like black people having the same rights as you? You don't like the idea of the government taking responsibility for an unborn child? guess what....too fucking bad.....there is no way this wouldn't become a law....maybe by that time there will some kind of drug one can take too sterilize themselves (men and woman)...of course there would be an anti-sterilization drug too....but that still doesn't change the fact that the artificial womb is going to happen regardless for other medical reasons.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:17:54 No.9074814
    >>9074641
    Don't pat yourself on the back too much, bitch. Sometimes troll threads can create interesting conversation in spite of the trollishness. I particularly enjoyed the numerous posts calling you out as a troll in so many ways, but there was some fun and insightful commentary as well.

    >>9074316
    was particularly charming, as were some of the dead baby horror stories... looked like copypasta, but I couldn't find another source anywhere.

    So, if your goal was to waste peoples' time, you kind of failed. If your goal was just to make a thread with a lot of responses, good for you. That's a shitty goal, though IMHO.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:19:39 No.9074842
    You know, if you're going to resort to petty name calling, you should find yourself a clergymen and have a thoughtful discussion. I hope you find your true path, I really do.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:25:17 No.9074913
    >>9074842
    >find a clergyman

    I am a clergyman, bitch. And some name-calling is petty, but calling you a bitch feels just right. Kind of makes me feel a little closer to You-know-Who.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:27:03 No.9074932
    My ex girl friend had an abortion, after I did a lot of thinking about god and abortion op,I came to the conclusion that, god the god of the bible anyways, gives us human something called free will there for he gives us the choice to choose abortion, or not. How can men judge abortion, if all men can choose? Living with the consequences and dealing with the emotional outcome is gods punishment.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:27:36 No.9074942
    >>9074913

    Jokes on you. I am "You-Know-Who" and I thought I'd make a return to tell you all, abortion is ok. Do it as many times as you want.

    Everyone goes to heaven anyways, there is no hell. There is no purgatory. There are no brown kids with rubicks cubes however.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:30:50 No.9074984
    >>9074759
    Your argument is fallacious and folly, sir.
    There are far too many negatives if such a situation were to occur.
    The artificial womb will occur, I concur. However, it will not reach a situation where it is mandatory that children are taken away from parents rather than abortions.

    This might become law. But if it should, it would not last long at all. there are over two hundred thousand abortions every year. That is over two hundred thousand hormonal women, partners, and potential fathers. And that is increasing. Now try telling everyone who has had an abortion that their child is going to be taken from them. You'll get three things, a population boom, and an increase in domestic violence and miscarriages, and quite likely rioting.
    You are also talking about this whole situation objectively.
    Women already jump the border to get abortions when their home states don't allow it. You won't get rid of abortions easily. And you won't do it without kicking up a shitstorm. This does not remove the argument of pro-life and pro-choice either. If anything it provokes it.
    Good day troll.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:30:53 No.9074985
    >>9074942

    hate to break it to you, there is no heaven either. You only have "now" so enjoy it while you can.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:33:29 No.9075023
    >>9074984

    well we can agree to disagree then, like I said hopefully a one shot lifetime serialization drug will be invented soon (can be given like vaccine when a child is born), that will cut down the number of unwanted pregnancy dramatically.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:33:58 No.9075030
    i fucking hate that my mom didnt abort me as a fetus because now i have to kill myself >=(
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:34:11 No.9075033
    >>9074985
    I hate to break it to you. But I'm the dalai lama.
    "Now" doesn't end.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:34:35 No.9075040
    ...

    what am I doing with my life?!
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:35:48 No.9075057
    >>9075033

    whatever helps you sleep at night kid
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:35:55 No.9075059
    >>9075040
    Preparing to ressurect as a snail apparently.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:37:53 No.9075088
    >>9075057
    Don't talk to your elders that way. I'm over 600 years old.

    Now go fetch me some milk for my cap'n crunch I have kindergarten in an hour.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:38:01 No.9075091
    >>9075059

    Sounds like fun actually. I'd be able to slime up walls.
    >> Anonymous 05/22/10(Sat)22:39:53 No.9075118
    >>9075091
    Your lucky, I got aborted last time and I had to work my up from amoeba.
    >> Anonymous 05/23/10(Sun)01:41:01 No.9077887
    Is this still here? Bumping for a good troll, in any case.



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