I heard you like to get pregnant just so you could have the satisfaction of killing a baby. Is there any truth to this?

>>8163101

No if I liked to just get pregnant for the satisfaction of killing a baby I would not be having an abortion right now would I? I'd just keep the pregnancy a secret, have the baby, and kill it.

Why don;t you let it grow, then keep it in a jar?
Thats what all the cool kids do

>>8163126

If I pay you $20, will you do it, and send me a tape?

Why are you such a fucking shit troll.

Are you dead inside yet?

1) Why are you proud enough of this to make a thread?
2) Do you feel any remorse?

>>8163126
This could be the greatest troll in history...
or not...

I think you might want to invest in a box of condoms. Or maybe some birth control pills.

That has to be cheaper than an abortion, right?

How does it feel physically to have an abortion?

>>8163134

Because late term abortions are fucking $$$$$$$$, and back alley abortions are fucking dangerous.

>>8163161

1) I'm not proud I'm just in a ton of pain and this isn't something that people talk about often due to the whole far right bs, so maybe someone might want to ask some questions or something, who knows.

2) Not really no.

how could you be stupid enough to accidentally get pregnant 3 times?
what the fuck is wrong with you?
or are you just looking for attention like the girl who had 15 or something

Nothing short of a timestamped picture of your womb will make me believe this isn't a troll thread.

Actually, would you be interested in donating sum delicious aborted fetus to SCIENCE?

Or actually, would you be interested in donating your un-aborted fetus to SCIENCE?

Our lab always needs neutral human cells to work on.

>>8163179

Eh, it feels sort of like the really bad menstural cramps.

>>8163168

Yes, it is, and I do use them quite often. Not an either/or thing, you know.

>>8163216

The girl who had 15 didn't actually have 15.
I don't know I've been having sex for a long ass time. I think the first 2 times might have been youthful stupidity, both in the application of birthcontrol and dating a guy who was a bit abusive (15+18).

I don't even know what went wrong this time. Was it some dumb mistake I can't remember? In either case, the result is the same.

>>8163223

A lot of women have abortions I think its better not to make them into some taboo shit and let extreme Christians dominate the conversation. Anti-choice propaganda is on the up, and more and more people spout inane "oh the poor innocent fetus holocaust when will the bloodshed end?" bullshit, and girls absorb that , and it just so happens to be poison.

I'm not trolling here, but it's not really something to be remotely ashamed of. It's not a good thing either--it costs money and it hurts. They are best minimized by using proper contraception. Sometimes there can also be emotional trauma due to the "fetus holocaust" bullshit we are all fed at early ages. This is best minimized by being open about having abortion.

I do not have an actual timestamped pic of womb though so I suppose you can make your own decision.

How much does it cost to have an abortion?

>>8163258
So what made you decide to not use them, that one time?

I'm all for abortion but getting pregnant 3 times? You must be fucking dumb. If I had just one scare I'd make sure it never happened again.

>>8163484

Medical abortion is ~$400 imhe. I think surgical abortion is more expensive, and the price just goes up as you are later along in your pregnancy. A lot of insurance does not cover it, and.

>>8163487

I think when I was first having sex, ~15 I went without it a lot because I got a little bit cocky about the pull out method. I've used bc ever since, though at 18 I had a ex-boyfriend sort of deliberately fuck it up for some unknown fucking creepy shit stalker reason. It couldn't be because he wanted kids as I had recently broken up with him, maybe it was his idea of revenge but oh well it worked. And here I'm not sure what happened. Possibly it failed?

>>8163378

I like how you automatically associate an anti-abortion stance with Christian extremism. I'm as secular as you can get and I'm against abortion except under certain circumstances (rape babies).

If you choose of your own free will to have sex in a manner conducive to pregnancy, the consequences are on your head. If you brought something to life as a direct result of your actions, you can't just kill it because "lol I dun want babby".

>>8163583

yes you can.

you know why? you know what justifies killing an unborn child?

because you fucking can. because its possible. thats all the justification anyone needs.

KILL MORE BABIES.

>>8163647
>because you fucking can. because its possible. thats all the justification anyone needs.

That's some sound logic trollbro.

Get ready for paaaaiiiin. I hope the dude is around to give you moral support.

>>8163583

Its not so much that I dun want babby, I just don't want this particular babby. And I am dealing with the consequences by having an abortion.

It seems you just want to punish women for having sex. People SHOULD be forced to incubate fetuses because they chose to have sex.

This is a stupid position to take.

How do you or the doctors decide between medical abortion or the surgial abortion?

>>8163054
What's it like being a whore?

>>8163680
>It seems you just want to punish women for having sex.

I honestly have no idea where you could have inferred that from what I said. What I said was that if you don't want to procreate, don't have sex in a manner that is conducive to procreation.
Having to deal with the fact that your dumb ass got pregnant in a way that doesn't involve destroying the fetus you just produced is not punishment any more than getting burned by fire is punishment. It's a consequence.

>>8163717

My doctor gave me the choice. I'm pretty sure theres no difference in terms of effects. Surgical abortion is shorter and you are knocked out the whole time.

>>8163721

Kill yourself.

What kind of asshole guys have you been dating all of these years? Do they not want to wear a condom or something?

ABORTION IS NOT A FORM OF BIRTH CONTROL YOU STUPID WHORE.

>>8163839
>Kill yourself.

Excuse me? The man was just calling it like it was. You're clearly a whore if you've had sex enough for birth control to fail three times.

I take it you arent on the pill OP. You know you can get that shit for free from planned parenthood?

I wanted to make this exact same thread during my chemical abortion last year but I was in too much pain. Shit sucked.

>>8163942
maybe you should have used a fucking condom

>>8163844

Uh, most of the guys I've slept with have worn condoms, save a few when I was first becoming sexually active.

>>8163872

Birth control is limiting the amount of children born so...yes, abortion is a form of birth control. Its just not a form of -contraception-.

>>8163894

Women who have sex a lot are whores?

>>8163917

No as it has given me some pretty nasty side effects in the past in terms of mood swings and a much lower sex drive. Considering its been over 10 years since my last abortion I'm not too worried.

>>8163872
? Yes it is. If it prevents a birth then it is birth control, good birth control.

>>8163942

Last year, I missed the opportunity to call you a concupiscent harlot. There we go, I took it now :).

OP is a disgusting whore. You should be shot.

>>8163999
agree'd

someone hax this bitch

Do you think your life is better now than if you had been a teenage mother living on welfare?

>>8163960
>Uh, most of the guys I've slept with have worn condoms, save a few when I was first becoming sexually active.

Damn. Well, I'm genuinely sorry for you then OP. Just be glad that you are not infertile. Nature just must want you to have lots and lots of babies.

>>8164037

Well lets not act like the choice is between teenage motherhood and abortion....but yes, I am most glad I'm not a teenage mother on the welfare.

>>8164043

There's no need to be sorry for me in either case. It's a fucking pain in the ass but it's not the tragic sort of thing Christians try to make it into.

OP is a dumbfuck virgin troll who actually believes that people get pregant who used birth control- they aren't just lying to others to avoid social stigma of unprotected secks.

Just stopping by to say thanks for being a great citizen if there's one thing the world doesn't need it's another unprepared mother and neglected kid.

>>8164134

Abortion is a form of birth control. You mean "contraception".

And while unprotected sex can be dangerous...is it really any of your business?

>>8164182
>troll thread about abortion
>sex life none of your business

Make up your fucking mind.

>>8164214

I mean in general....is it your business if someone is having unprotected sex and has to cough up the money/time for abortion?

>>8164266

Yeah. It is.

>>8164321

Why and how, exactly?

>>8164332

Well, it helps that you sauntered into r9k and started a thread about your abortion habit.

>>8164420
Like I said, I am talking in general. Say you know of someone who never uses contraception. For whatever reason, maybe they are loaded with money and masochistic as hell, they just prefer abortion.

Why do you give a shit?

>>8164439
Because abortion is immoral and kills a living thing.

We pretend this isn't true and carve out little exceptions to make us feel better (why is killing rape babies OK?) but the bottom line is we do it because we can, and people are selfish and want their fairytale planned out life with all of the fun and none of the work.

>>8164499

Getting an abortion is far more work than using a condom in the first place.

And sperm is alive too....do you get mad when someone cums into a tissue?

Humans abort when they don't want to be pregnant. Women aren't human incubators.

>>8164521
This just in, sex makes people pregnant. It always has. That's the entire point. If you can't deal with the consequences of sex, don't have it.

>>8164521
>And sperm is alive too....
Actually, it isn't.

>>8164557

....yes they are. They aren't conscious anymore than a fetus is, but they are living.

>>8164542

Uh, I am dealing with the consequences of sex right now. What the hell are you on about?

>>8164499
>implying everyone does (or at least should) conform to your morality

>>8164542

Virgin troll detected.

umadblox

How does that tablet work OP? You pee out the fetus or something?

>>8164594
95% of /r9k is a virgin and/or troll

>>8164570
No, actually you're not. You're avoiding the consequences.
>>8164594
What exactly do you disagree with? That sex makes babies? You've had the talk, right?

>>8164521

>And sperm is alive too....do you get mad when someone cums into a tissue?

Did you really just pose that as an argument? Let me throw a question back at you. Are you against genocide? Do YOU get mad when someone cums in a tissue?
Hopefully that gives you some insight into how retarded you are.

>Women aren't human incubators.

Actually, they are. Ask a biologist.

>Getting an abortion is far more work than using a condom in the first place.

And killing my mistress and getting rid of the body after she threatens to tell my wife is more work than paying her off or getting a divorce. That doesn't make it an acceptable substitute.

>>8164619

>No, actually you're not. You're avoiding the consequences.

Consequence: an unwanted pregnancy.
Dealing with it: Using money and time to get abortion, walking around to get my mind off the pain, and an extra thick pad to soak up all the blood.

If I got an STD, then I would "deal with it" by going through proper treatment and informing my partners ahead of time.

What YOU describe (ignore it until it starts squeezing out of your vagina), is "avoiding the consequences". YOUR approach to an STD would be to just let it consume you until you die.

>>8164570
>Uh, I am dealing with the consequences of sex right now.

...No, you're not. You're dealing with the consequences of an abortion. There's a difference.

>>8164645

>Did you really just pose that as an argument? Let me throw a question back at you. Are you against genocide? Do YOU get mad when someone cums in a tissue?

I am against the killing of honest people such as myself. Not fetuses...fetuses cannot feel pain, they are half formed unconscious beings who have never even known consciousness.

>Actually, they are. Ask a biologist.

I am a biologist, wtf?

>And killing my mistress and getting rid of the body after she threatens to tell my wife is more work than paying her off or getting a divorce. That doesn't make it an acceptable substitute.

The person I was replying to described abortion as "none of the work". This is retarded.

>>8164619

I don't understand why people think women should keep kids as 'consequences' to sex. Its an easily remedied medical condition that happens to sometimes result from a fun past time.

If you went for a bike ride because, hot damn you love riding bikes, and then fell off and broke your arm, nobody would bitch at you that you can't have your arm set because if you go bike riding you should fucking expect the consequences.

>>8164670

>...No, you're not. You're dealing with the consequences of an abortion. There's a difference.

Not really, because the consequences of abortion are part of the consequences of pregnancy are part of the consequences of sex. Its like a beautiful ripple effect.

I'm not pro-life.
I'm not pro-choice.

I'm pro-abortion.
Stop having fucking disgusting children people.
Way to be OP, way to be.

>>8164686

Don't start applying logic to an abortion debate. It makes the inbreds very defensive.

>>8164686

Religious extremists want to see sexually active women put through as much discomfort as possible. They hide behind the "oh wont someone think of the embryos??!!", but in the end, they just want to set up artificial "consequences" for sex.

Damn... There was a comic I saw a lonngg time ago by an artist who did a bunch of guro art about chicks who were in a contest to see who could get the most aborted fetuses. They made the bodies into a grotesque hat or something and compared them.
Thoughts, OP?
What would you aborted baby hat look like?

Also, do you feel guilty?
I don't think you should. There are too many people on earth anyway. Thanks for keeping it less crowded and not keeping a baby you hate because you feel guilty.

>>8164499
Heh. There are lots of situations where killing is not immoral. For example, self defence.
People who don't think abortion is strictly immoral measure a woman's right to control what happens to her body against the baby's right to live. Clearly everyone is in agreement that this weighs in the favor of a close to term baby, which is why (hopefully!) everyone agrees that late term abortions are immoral.

Read "In Defense of Abortion" by Judith Jarvis Thomson. It's all about balancing rights of people, and not so much about whether or not a baby is a person.

>>8164686

Cool false analogy bro.

>>8164678
>I am a biologist

I am unfathomably skeptical of this claim. High school classes don't count.

>>8164718

No. I remember I expected to feel really awful after my first one, I was so anxious and felt really bad....but it was nothing. I seriously don't give a shit at this point.

>>8164779

>I am unfathomably skeptical of this claim. High school classes don't count.

No, I am a biologist. Like, I've been published and everything. No biologist would call a woman a "human incubator". Wtf?

>>8164790

http://www.imnotsorry.net/

other women's stories, if people are interested in reading them.

OP, don't feel bad about not feeling guilty. You just had a common medical procedure done. You shouldn't feel any more guilty than having your appendix out. People don't weep over appendixes.

>>8164719

>(hopefully!) everyone agrees that late term abortions are immoral.

No they aren't, shut up. Late term abortions are a medical necessity.

>>8164815

Like I said, I don't feel guilty and I don't feel guilty over not feeling guilty. As far as I can tell, 90% of that "oooh women are so depressed and they just can't handle the pain of aborting!" is exaggerated bs.

>>8164815
Fuck you bro, I cry about that appendix every day.

>>8164813

We exist as a species to survive, produce offspring, and promote the survival of our offspring. Our intelligence and ability to create pleasurable distractions and subjective meaning along the way does not change that.

>>8164829

Very true. I'm pretty sure the typical response goes something like this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C17yfGyJjM

>>8164829
>As far as I can tell, 90% of that "oooh women are so depressed and they just can't handle the pain of aborting!" is exaggerated bs.

Would you accept that from someone who was skeptical of a biological claim?
Peer reviewed psychology literature. Read it.

This thread is full of faggotry.

>HERP DERP SHOULD HAVE USED BIRTH CONTROL

You people have said this a thousand fucking times, with 999 of them being AFTER OP pointed out that SHE FUCKING DID

>YOU'RE A WHORE AND SHOULD DIE

None of you would react like this to a man having that much sex. You all know it. Die in a fire.

>ZOMG YOU HAD NO RIGHT TO KILL BABBY, IT WAS YOUR FAULT SO DEAL WITH THE CONSEQUENCES

Yeah, her fault completely, she should cop all the consequences. She did the responsible thing and used birth control, but it's still completely her fault and totally had nothing to do with the man. Especially that one when she was 15 and with a man older and more experienced then her. It isn't possible at all that he should have known better.

>>8164840

No we don't "exist to" do anything in particular. Thats a philosophical question and doesn't really have a place in any form of real biology.

are you available?

>>8164864

Is that why every other life form that reproduces in a similar fashion yet lacks the cognitive ability to think philosophically behaves in the exact same way?

so are you available or not?

>>8164933

Incorrect, but even if it were correct--irrelevant. Nothing "exists to" anything. Saying "humans exist to reproduce" is as stupid as saying the earth exists to revolve around the sun. (which is why similar sized masses behave the same, right?).

Talking like that just shows you don't have a fucking clue about a damn thing.

>>8164822
You shut up.

I'm sure I can imagine a situation where a late term abortion was a medical necessity, but it's funny you should say that, because all of the stories I've read about women who had late abortions (places that provide them seem to always have websites with story sections) were women who aborted their babies because they found out they had downs syndrome or some other similarly disabling (i.e. not a vegetable baby) problem. In my mind, that's fucking immoral.

A late term abortion is not ridding yourself of something leeching off your body or killing you; it's the procurement of death. If the baby's viable and there's risk to the mother, that's what cesarean sections are for.

So yeah, I would say they're immoral. Not unequivocally, but most of the time, yes.

would you moralfags shut up, I'm trying to find out if this girl is single.

>>8164999

There are 4 whole doctors in the entire US that perform late term abortions. Its very expensive and invasive. They are all done for medical reasons. It is not done to kill a leech

Demonizing those nasty "late term abortions!!" is exactly why Dr. Tiller was murdered and his successor already has threats on his life.

Any doctor who does late term abortions should be given a medal.

>>8165036

Not atm I'm afraid.

>>8165051
lol well thats too bad. Thanks for answering me anyway. Btw nice troll even if it is a true story. you got these fags pissed.

>>8164999

There are tons of cases of late term abortions where the pregnancy presents a terminal risk to ether the baby and/or the mother, or has some sort of affliction like Tay Sachs that will doom them to a short and painful life once outside the womb, cases where the mother is so emotionally distraught by the pregnancy they're suicidal (I remember reading about one rape victim that had constant flashbacks to her rape and tried to kill herself 3 times before she finally got the late term abortion) or even cases where the fetus is already dead and needs to be removed.

Late term abortion is an important option to have.

A WOMAN THAT HAD SEX

BAWWWWWW

Enjoy your post partum hypopituitu-
What's this?
Post to Facebook?
What the fuck?

Why are you such an irresponsible whore who would kill a baby out of convenience?

>>8163872

Correction: Abortion is the best form of birth control.

We need more fetuses for glorious SCIENCE and what not.

>>8165114
Good luck trying to convince right wing morons and trolls that late term abortions are frequently necessary and rarely done by people who enjoy killing babies. They never seem to get it.

Down syndrome might be an extreme case for it, but no mother wants to hear their child is going to never have a shot at being a whole functioning human being. Many cases of late term abortions are babies that would be completely dependent on others for their entire life just to not die of starvation. None of you can understand what that would feel like to a mother, to face bringing a child into the world that is doomed to die sooner than the family cat, or worse, live 50 years permanently 3 years old mentally and never a real person.

Can't you like be a surrogate parent for a couple and then they basically buy the baby from you for a shit load of money or some shit

>>8165168
I burst out laughing even though its fuckin retarded.

Why is a woman a whore if she has enough sex to get pregnant on accident, but a man is cool for it?

They're doing the same thing.

PROTIP: the morning after pill is not an abortion. It stops conception entirely be thinning the womb lining.

Unless you're a hardline Catholic there's no need to get butthurt over it.

>>8166107
Patriarchal social norms, yo