neither, no social circle either.
i was superficially familiar with everyone.
never hung out with anyone, though.

>>8096852
You're mentally ill. Enjoy not being a real person.

>>8096852
>they would have earned my respect
Ever considered that your respect wasn't worth shit to anyone?

Was bullied in junior high, got hot in high school and was the bully.

Now I am neutral territory.

neither here

whatblox

I was more of the bully repelent.

I was very tall and strong and bullys wouldnt mess with anyone around me. Was cool.

I used to be bullied in primary school. Then I grew 2 feet. Then I just joined the general bullying of the fat/smelly/retarded kids. Didn't really have a specific target.

i am a bully, everyone in my 6th grade class lives in mortal terror of me

>>8096905
Yeah well, the second to last sentence from the OP pretty much shields me from all critique.

>>8096909
Maybe, but tell that to the kids who wanted me to stop bullying them.

Both. I was an easy target for them but sometimes picked on people further down the chain. Shit is basically instinct.

>>8097080
There's a difference between 'please stop hitting me' and 'I CRAVE YOUR APPROVAL'.

One kid picked on me for a skin disease I have in 8th grade. I punched him in the face and while he fell on his knees I elbowed him in the kidneys and knocked him out. Everyone in my class saw it while the teacher was out of the room. This kid was someone who beat all the other kids at arm wrestling at lunch. No one fucked with me after that.

I was the guy who defended those who were bullied. I was their white knight in a flannel shirt.

You deserve to die, OP.

I had to change schools because of people like you.

>>8097458
in fact, he is a little bit dead inside.
remember op, a human being unable to feel compassion is nothing but a beast in the body of a man.
Schopenhauer related.

I remember this one kid in my class who me and my friends bullied. We never hurt him or anything, we would just kind of make fun of what a weirdo he was. And he was, and still is.
That's pretty much it though. I never really had a lot of friends, and a lot of kids in my class alienated me just as bad.

I've been on both ends of the spectrum, I don't feel shame or anger over either. What kids in elementary school do to each other does not matter to me.

I would pick on a lot of kids, not notorious enough to be a real bully though. I never did anything physical just picked/pissed off losers because it's fun to do.

>>8097607
Selective compassion is compassion also.

And even so, what of it? Exalting ourselves to a state of mind above our beastly nature is nothing short of arrogance and ignorance.

>>8097154
What actually happened: Some kid picked on you for your skin disease, you got pissed but never fought back/did fight and lost, most likely the first one. But when posting it on 4chan you added that part on the end to come off as the hero.

>>8097766
>arrogance and ignorance

"Pretentiousness" would've been more accurate. So here you go.

Bullied in elementary and middle school. Stopped in high school due to the fact that I was suddenly bigger and brawnier than most of the football players.

I was both the bully and the bullied. I regret being both and agree with
>>8096905

It is normal to bully temporarily but it is certainly not normal to pick on someone for more than a few minutes, as hunter gatherers we would briefly make fun of people to encourage them to sort out flaws and generally haze them into the group so they become functional team members and can go out and hunt or do their part to forage, start fires, build huts etc.. but there is obviously something seriously wrong if it is abused to satiate a neuroses.

It is also a problem on the part of the bullied and I agree that it's a 2 way street, you can't stop bullying by stopping bullies, you have to explain to the victim that they made themselves a target and they were too lazy to stand up for themselves. Even the most feeblest amount of resistance is often enough to cause a bully to stop because it gives the victim a human face, again there has to be something wrong with you if you tolerate being bullied.

Those who give in to their animal nature are subhumans.

The genes in them are weak and confused by this modern world.

Those who are capable of holding the beast at bay are the wisest and most worthy of reproducing.

Treat every human as you would want to be treated by them. Treat every human as a human being and you can do no wrong.

Anything less is animal. Anything less is immoral.

>>8097607

Schopenhauer was a fucking sucker. The concept of "inhumanity" with regard to humans is nothing other than another little tool to distance man from his natural drives, because they are dangerous to his pursuit of social belonging and security. Man is a beast, only the cleverest one. Every man has within himself the capacity, even the will, to impose himself on others - and he does so in all his interactions. Perhaps he does so weakly, perhaps he does so abstractly, perhaps he does so via compassion and other pretty virtues, but in any case it is the imposition of his selfhood on others and upon the world. And if he does so violently, he is simply being discordant with the subdued character of the rest of his fellow men; but he represents the seething depths from which all their refinement proceeds. A man who was not also a beast would have shriveled from lack of will to feed himself, drink or move: such is the consequence of selflessness.

Nietzsche motherfucking related.

I've been both, I guess, mostly in elementary school. There were a few weird kids who I would tell to fuck off (although not that way, obviously) and wouldn't let them join whatever game we were playing, shit like that. Never anything violent.

It especially sucked when I was "bullied" because it was by girls, so I had no idea what to do when they did shit like throw all of my things around the classroom.

>>8097913

nietzsche was a repressed beta who fell in love, got rejected and then hated women forever

betas have no understanding of the logical and social underpinnings of the system

>>8097766
>And even so, what of it? Exalting ourselves to a state of mind above our beastly nature is nothing short of arrogance and ignorance.
A human being is already more than just an animal. Without any "exalting" whatsoever. So why would you surrender to your beastly nature, instead of being a human?
I don't judge school bullies, because children not always know better. However an adult man enjoying his memories of bullying others is just sad.
I also have a strong feeling op is a troll but whatever.

>>8097950
What good is being an "alpha" if nobody will remember your name in 100 years?

>>8097950

You shouldn't trust everything you read on the intrawebs, broenstein. Maybe you should try actually reading Nietzsche, and seeing how little his disposition towards women has to do with his philosophy?

And since when has being a "beta" have anything to do with understanding the "system?" Don't you hopeless faggots consider alpha males the stupid ones? And if you don't, can you not tell how my last post, informed thoroughly by Nietzsche, advocates the "alpha?"

Do some research before you start trying to make judgments about thinkers who are doubtless your intellectual superior, and stay the fuck on topic. I'll rape your ass for insulting my main man Friedrich.

Kinda bullied a emo girl in my class. everyone participated, so i don't really blame myself.
she ended up cutting her wrists in class (I wasn't bulling her this time) and hospitelized. two years later she killed herself during a vacation.

that was eight years ago. funny how my main lesson is to prevent my kid from being a wuss.

blox
>Were you the bully or the one being bullied?
Neither. I just... didn't do anything in school really. Everyone just liked me and I never did anything to anyone else.

Huh...

>>8097913
>>8098053
There is no definite proof of that. Wouldn't it be more "ubermensch" of me to think for myself and reject Nietzsche and nihilism in favor of being logical and realistic?

>>8098005
>A human being is already more than just an animal.

And where exactly do you get this notion from? Give my one example that separates us from animals.

Bullied whole life for stupid shit such as my nose (as you can see), being small chested, being a nerd. I have gotten into a few fist fights in my years, I usually didn't just "take it".

>>8098101
Language

>>8098095
If you think Nietzsche was a nihilist, then you really don't know anything. All he wanted from people was to reject hypocritical "slave" ideology and accept that what you want is power in your life, not morality.

Neither, I was bullied for a short time until I punched the kid in the face, no one really messed with me after that.

>>8098005
>>an adult man enjoying his memories of bullying others is just sad

why sad? those were happy times. it's like you enjoy the memories of stores lifting. it's wrong, but still a fun memory.

>>8098052
what good it is to be remembered as "that guy, whom nazis took from their ideas about the "Blond beasts, allowed to do everything, because they are the master race?"" (i'm not implying nietzsche would advocate nazis btw.)

>>8097857
I want to agree with your points but any time someone brings up what "we did as hunter-gatherers" my bullshit alarms just don't stop ringing.

Not only is that completely unfounded but it's also hardly relevant. You're on the internet right now. No two societies (and thus, no two behaviors from different societies) are precisely the same, in the very same PRESENT. Why does what faggots did 200,000 years ago have anything to do with behavior right now? Or, more accurately: how should that be evidence to explain behavior right now? Maybe that trend did start a long time ago, but our societies are complex constructs with lots of history. I hardly see what a hunting-gathering tribe could tell us about bullying in 21st century Western public schools.

If you are bullied is it better to just 'take it' or actually fight back or let someone else deal with it?

and if fight back, list some methods.

>>8098111
Vis-a-vis, communication.

Try again.

>>8098109
Lemme guess.

Then you went to college and now you have a boyfriend and sex all the time and lots of friends and everyone loves you?

>>8098158
Language is not communication.

>>8098095

Jesus christ, you're misunderstanding. I'll say it again: READ NIETZSCHE. He doesn't make nearly as much of his concept of the Ubermensch as Wikipedia does, you dipshit. He also was not a nihilist, and he's probably the most logical and realistic thinker you'll find a hundred years back.

Read him, learn, and stop making judgments from shit you gathered from secondary sources.

>>8098149
he isn't remembered like that.

>>8098180
http://www.psych.ualberta.ca/~chrisw/Psych357/L28Animals.pdf

fucking neither, what the fuck is your deal

>>8098158
>he thinks communication is the same as language!
laughing_girls.jpg

I was bullied a lot. One day I decided I had had enough of it, so I did fight back. I punched the kid in the fucking teeth.
Then he and his posse kicked my ass every time they spotted me from that moment on.
"Respect"? That is such bullshit.

>>8098150
>Why does what faggots did 200,000 years ago have anything to do with behavior right now

and then

>but our societies are complex constructs with lots of history.

k.

>>8098109
Well if you happen to surprise your bully.. it can go one of two ways. They back off, or they get revenge. I'd say go for it anyway. Chances are no one is going to handle it for you effectively.

I bullied people, but it was never physical. Both my parents are psychology majors, and they thought that it would help them raise an awesome family, but their tactics basically just taught me (from a very young age) how to fuck with peoples' heads.

I would incite fights between people for fun, make people think it was their idea to do things I wanted them to, and just emotionally destroy other kids when we got in verbal altercations.

I did get my fair share of licks from fucking with people when the teachers weren't looking, but then I started to use it as a tactic: piss someone off so much that they get physical, then cry to the teacher. I got people sent to the office almost weekly before everyone figured out that they should just ignore me.

I know, I'm a sociopath.

>>8098170
Actually no :| I cant seem to keep a boyfriend who doesn't cheat on me or beat me. I just stay away from all of them now.

Bullying is like a food chain. Everyone picks on the people who are lower than them in terms of social status. Even nerds sometimes have lesser nerds beneath them that they can bully as a way of relieving their pent up passive aggressive frustration.

>>8098233
explains your methods

>>8098158
moral?
inb4 Nietzsche destroyed the moral... well he didn't, he just suggested yet another moral system as opposed to the christian moral

>>8098312
Oh please. Just pick up a psychology book and read it. Then apply all of the bullshit inside to people around to by "analyzing" them and win THE GAME when you make them cry.

>>8098218
Yeah, and therefore there's possible myriad reasons that explain bullying that have nothing to do with our _GUESSES_ about what kind of jokes or hazing hunter gatherer tribes practiced.

Ergo that "evidence" is meaningless and also useless.

I was small and crazy and would fight with some of my friends but it was fun. I may have bullied people out of food but i don't think so i would always offer trades but i am not sure what people were comfortable with i had/have my own emotional problems understanding what other people feel is sometimes difficult.

>>8098312
Methods for what? Fucking with peoples' heads? It's all just how you use information.

>>8097950
FU
Q

Fighting back? Hah, I did that all the fucking time. What happened? I got my ass kicked. Not by one guy- no, because the whole fucking school, or most of it, was against me. There was NEVER one guy, it was always 3 guys at minimum, sometimes over seven guys, and I had no support, not even the teachers, who didn't do shit. The few 'friends' I made in my grade were either in the same situation and were too cowardly to band together with me, or were accepted enough to go to their side and turn their backs against me.

I know OP is a different kind of bully, one that would stop when others fight back. Perhaps that one guy. But being bullied is just being in the middle of a frenzied mob. You had no friends, nowhere to run. The true way of being bullied isn't "OH THAT GUY SENT ME A BAAAAD TEXT MESSAGE, HE HURT MAH FEELINGS!" No- it's being unable to fight back, unable to seek any help at all, because no matter what you do, even if you try to fight, they'll always find some way to gang up on you.

So what do people do? They think, "Hey, if I act crazy, no one will want to fuck with me! I won't be a slave to anyone!" What happens to us? We become 'dangerous' outcasts, pathetic shits of society. And people wonder how murderers, thieves, rapists are made.

Thankfully I've grown out of that nearly a decade ago and I'm out of school, but it just jolted my memory a bit.

>>8097950
fucking Nietzche must have browsed /r9k/ or sumtin

>>8098145
it is sad, because you don't understand that you should regret it. At least, not with your heart.
inb4 "i decide what i should regret and what not". ofc, it is your right and i don't want to force my point of view on you. So it is just my opinion of what should be regretted. At least i regret having bullied others, and if i could i would undo it. But i can't. (well tbh i was bullied as well, so i know how it feels being on both sides)

I was bullied by a girl (sucked hard core), on occasion in elementary and middle school.

Justice was served when she "bloomed" into a fat rat, complete with pointy buck teeth and a feral energy, later in HS.

When I was "the new kid" at a school closer to my home I was bullied. It was pretty racial too. I was one of the handful of whiteys in the school so I got a lot of shit for that. Like this one time this nigger said, "HEY ANON LEMMI SEE DAT BASKET BALL REEL QUICK!" so I passed it to him and he ran off with it. I really wish I could restart my life knowing everything I know now. Bitches wouldn't stand a chance.

>>8098109
l want to say something about "oh, you're too pretty, those guys don't know what they're talking about!" but then I remembered you're lying out of your cunt and you're just an attention whore taking the pity out of the hands of the truly bullied, poor girls and giving it to yourself for dicks in your ass.

>>8098316
Morality is basically just ius naturale, the natural law.

It's something that's essentially really just bound to whatever specific time and place. Slavery is a good example. Besides, what may be just(right) for one may be unjust(wrong) for another.

Morality is nothing but just another layer of social norms. Animals have those. If you want to upscale basic rules as moral, then go ahead. It's still just the same.

>>8098553
FooIish anon, this is a facebook picture, and some dumbass guy forgot to change the filename. You are trolled to the brink of idiocy.

>>8098617
Yep.
http://www.facebook.com/elise.wingo

>>8098658
I'm guessing this is one of the white knights who stood up to those mean, mean bullies who didn't exist.

>>8098095
>>8098149
You know nothing of Nietzsche.

>>8098681
I deleted that link because it was just the photo album but yeah, I guess so.

>>8098184
He is by anyone with a brain.

I'm convinced schoolyard bullies don't exist in America anymore.

"Hey faggot, I bet you like to suck dick, lol!"

That's not bullying. Getting punched in the face and robbed of your lunch money is bullying. It doesn't happen anymore.

When I blew up at the guy who made a passing insult to me in the school corridors and smacked his head against a load of pipes, I cemented my position of 'fucking weird guy who you should avoid else he'll rape and murder you and your family'. I think that was the only reason people left me alone in school.

I was neither a bully, nor bullied for two reasons. The first is that I rarely interacted outside of my clique, and therefore didn't deal with any assholes, and my clique was such that none of us bullied one another. The other reason is that my school was small enough (~100 people/grade IIRC) that if anyone acted like an ass to someone that didn't deserve it, they'd be more or less shunned.

Small private schools have no bullies, dumbfuck.

>>8098574
sure animals too have "rules" that *maybe* could be regarded as some kind of moral in a very rudimentary form. yet, if you compare the mental capacity of animals and those of humans, you will see an overwhelming quantitative superiority of latter over the former. "Quantity that has quality of its own" so to say. Therefore, i believe it is safe to assume, that even if some kind of society or moral can be found in the animal kingdom, they can't be really compared to those of the modern men.

I was only verbally bullied, but I was more on the outcast side.

I am now an ally of justice who isn't afraid to fight back or stand up when others can't.

>>8098860
also abstract thinking, depending on how vague you would define it (like, being able to recognise own reflection in the mirror -> idea of self -> abstract thinking) but then again, a human being has vastly superior potential of abstract thinking than those mentioned above.

I was bullied, but never actually got beat up physically. I was nice to everyone but had very few friends and was the one everyone laughed at and made fun of, always sat alone, got picked last, stuff like that. I remained nice through 80% of my school years despite this, when I finally just started keeping to myself and not really doing anything to/with anyone.

Was mostly the one being bullied, but every now and then I was the one bullying some people.

>>8098681
Just came back to thread. What the fuck? Man up and tell me your name you little shit. Never been bullied? I have been raped. I have been molested. I have been called things that hit so deep I was crying on the floor by the people I loved most. You have no fucking clue. I dare you to tell me your name, I don't take shit anymore.

Never was a bully here, but never been bullied either.

I do troll the fuck out of people irl tho, but subtly.

Some kids were jerks, and I thought that 90% of them were stupid morons who would never amount to anything in life anyway.
I was the kid who teared up quickly over some stupid thing or another, but I never got my ass kicked or my head flushed - I wasn't that much of a bitch, plus I was the tallest kid in school.

Eventually the other kids matured up or left school, and I learned how to give shit back to the ones who gave it to me - so they liked and respected me for it.

Your tears sustain me anons