why sign anything? what did you do?

what happened? I've been lucky enough to have a job, does being fired matter when collecting unemployment?

>>7834521
You are an idiot, you can't collect unemployment when you are fired, because usually the company helps contribute a portion via taxes or some so you can get that check if you are laid off. You are an idiot for signing anything, they can now claim you were fired instead of laid off.

Being fired, no, unless the trangsression was egregious; drinking on the job and operating a motor vehicle, etc.

I was canned because I went off on a customer, even though he really deserved it. But stupidly I gave a statement and signed it, and *that's* that they're going to use against me.

But Caliofrnia is real liberal, so they probably won't want to drop me, but almost half of all claims get denied.

>>7834581
Yea, if you're in Cali, you're fine...until that shitty state implodes on itself that is.

>>7834601

You really think so? I can keep it no matter what?

What should I say when they ask:

- The reason I left?
- Was I warned my actions could result in me being fired?
- Was I warned?

NEVER SIGN OR ADMIT TO ANYTHING WITHOUT BEING COMPENSATED.

How obvious can this be? If you aren't getting anything in return, politely decline all requests for signing anything. There's no good that can come of it and much bad.

>>7834618
Hell if I know, I've never collected unemployment. I just know that Cali is all about being compassionate and shit for workers, so you have a better chance at drawing that money than in some other states.

I'd just say tell the truth, but that's me.

>>7834581
1. you got fired because you fucked up on the job
2. your company is trying to cut costs and probably doesn't want to pay for your incompetence
3. you agreed that you were fired not laid off (signed the paper)
4. you have no right to unemployment, also you're what's wrong with the economy

>>7834645

Yeah, this is what everyone else told me, or give a statement that said I did nothing wrong.

If I could go back in time I would, but this isn't a r9k thread where we give advice to our former selves.

What *should* I say to the unemployment office in the here and now?

>>7834656
Don't fucking listen to this idiot, if you tell the truth you are never going to seen an unemployment check. Answer me some questions so I can help concoct a believable legal lie for you. Were you paid hourly? Do you support people with your paycheck? Are you considered an independent on your taxes?

>>7834686
Also, have you gotten/received your last paycheck yet or was it given to you upon being fired?

>>7834686

I was paid base rate plus commission.

I do not support anyone.

I'm not claimed on anyone else's taxes, I'm an independant.

In my experience, deny deny deny. Seriously.

-The reason I left? A customer was harassing me and I informed them that they had to leave.

- Was I warned my actions could result in me being fired? Say no. Say you were told that the customer violated your personal space/religious values/values as a human and you thought the company had your back because of "The right to refuse service"

- Was I warned?
Say no. Always say no. Even if you had signed something previously.

They do not cross examine you. The adjudicator takes your story and then takes the other person's story. Then examines them. They usually side in your favor, and if they don't the first time, appeal. Say you were really upset when you made the statement, if they bring it up. Say how you don't understand how telling a customer that you could refuse to serve (dumb down whatever it is you did to something like that) could get you fired.
Should be fine.

>>7834701

I already received it.

>>7834724
Did you receive it through the mail or did they cut you the check the very minute they escorted you off the premises?

>>7834714

Dude thanks. I really mean it.

What about the phone interview? Should I be worried? What will they ask?

>>7834747

Both. I received one in the mail the day before, mailed by Fed-Ex (?) one just before I left for the last time, and anopther in the mail, mailed to my house for like a buck or two.

Is this an issue?

>>7834714
No, dude that is a crock of shit, with unemployment sky high, the state and federal government are trying to cut back on giving out free money. For whatever reason that company had a right to fire you, you are not entitled to a warning or whatever bullshit that faggot is saying.

>>7834763
Restate this, it is confusing as fuck, you get 3 or 2 checks? I'm asking if they wrote you the check the minute they fired you, that is the important question. Full sentences, a yes or no won't cut it.

lol this guy is so incompetent that he doesn't even know how to properly file for unemployment. what a joke.

>>7834836
True, but atleast he is asking for help. Should be on /adv/ though.

I got one mailed to me the day before.

I got a normal one one handed to me as I was canned for full benefit rate for that last week.

Those are the two that count.

Then there was another normal one in the mail a week later, for like a buck or two.

So three checks, sorry.

>>7834902
So you had a check mailed to you the day before you were fired? And they also wrote you a check, and then mailed you a BS check later on.

In any case this is your best bet. It is essentially claiming duress when you signed the paper thing or whatever. In the phone interview, tell them when they ask you if what you signed and wrote is true, say it is not and that you are unaware of why they say you were fired and instead not laid off. Then tell them they told you they would not have paid you unless you had written and signed the statement they said. And being as you have to pay your own bills you would of been homeless, with out food, water, etc. Then you should be good. It is essentially saying the company didn't want to help pay for your unemployment and decided to lie to the government about you being fired and since it is your word against theirs, you will have nothing to lose.

>>7834974
Do not mention anything about the person they said made the complaint. Deny deny deny.

AWESOME ADVICE DUDE, THANKS!

>>7834974
>you will have nothing to lose
nothing to lose except your dignity because what the above post describes is clear cut unemployment fraud.

You are hurting the very same kinds of people that you expect to get a job from in the future. You're scum.

Oh fuck, I just realized, I made the statement and signed the paper 2 weeks after the incident.

Does this change anything?

>>7835031
Try harder bro, trollling is not really hard...

>And being as you have to pay your own bills you would of been homeless, with out food, water, etc. Then you should be good.

Oh shit, didn't catch the first time around; I live with my parents.

Fuck, does *this* change anything?

>>7835032
They fired you 2 weeks after? You have even more reason to claim it didn't happen.

>>7835031
Also, you are right about the fraud bit, but fuck it, I'm willing to bet that company was just looking for reasons to get rid of someone and not pay anything. Fuck they did it 2 weeks after. The company deserves the investigation against them.

Why do I have even more reason to claim it didn't happen?

>>7835073
Are you considered a dependent on taxes under them?

>>7835102
Plausible deniablity, if they were gonna fire you for someone saying something, they would of done it the same day, not 2 weeks after.

>>7835073
If you are a dependent, use the homeless, food-less, etc. Excuse, just say you wanted to get paid. If you filed as an independent on your taxes, the same excuses applies, they government has no right to fucking know who you pay rent to, unless it is the IRS doing an audit on your ass.

>>7835124

I'm not claimed as a dependent on their taxes.

>>7835151

Ahhh... I see, thanks!

>>7834748
NP, I just had an interview like this in the state of WI. What did you do? How did they inform you? Were you doing the job to the best of your ability? How did this incident reflect on the rest of your work-did you otherwise try to serve customers to the best of your ability? How did your manager approach your concerns? I was asked things like that.

I had a friend who, due to drug abuse, missed way too many days of work and was fired. He denied, denied, denied, said he was sick, and they gave him his unemployment because they believed him.

>>7834771
Suck a bag of cocks, you have NO FUCKING IDEA what you are talking about.

>>7835151
Also, what this guy said.
I had a friend who claimed UI benefits for two months after being fired, and they did not contest. When he had to start them up another two months later, the company contested. The UI chick said tough tits you should have caught this before, if it were a real issue and he had not been laid off you would have contested immediately.
Of course you got a few more checks, you were working.

Thanks guys, this is awesome.

I'm also making tons of posts in adv right now, to pay it forward.

In the state of California, you can apply for and receive unemployment benefits if you became unemployed for ANY REASON as stated on the EDD website.

Furthermore the money you get comes out of your income tax that's taken from your paycheck.

If they phone interview you, state that they did not warn you (legally in california, you are supposed to get 3 written warnings). I'm getting ready to sue my last employer because it's been a year since i've had a job, can't get an interview and am about to get m last unemployment check because I hardly had any money coming to me.