why the fuck would it be illegal?

fuck move back to your parents house for a bit...

thats what I'm doing since I lost my job because of the lolconomy

And deal with the stress and hassle of living in the street will take its toll very quickly.

There are no pros.

It's illegal if you don't have more than $10 on you at any time, and you're not allowed to pan-handle without buying a license.

People are conditioned to think of a house or apartment as security. This couldn't be further from the truth. Houses burn, they blow away in the wind, they're washed away in the water. You can lose your home due to things you have no control over. Don't pretend insurance will cover you, either. Insurance companies are corporations and their bottom line is profit, so in the long run, they're a losing proposition to you-- if not, they wouldn't keep in business! You think you're covered, and then comes Hurricane Katrina.

Now imagine you have the skills and know-how to survive, and thrive, without an apartment. You've developed these skills during good times, when you could have afforded an apartment if you really wanted. And now, here come some bad times. The economy turns to crap, you lose your job, whatever. Suddenly, you have a lot less pressure on your shoulders. Getting evicted? No biggy!

It's kind of like being a non-driver when fuel prices go up. You know what I was thinking a few years ago when fuel prices started soaring? I was thinking, "Big deal!" I didn't drive, so it didn't really affect me directly.

Who's more secure? An elite ninja who could, if needed, survive in a post-apocalyptic zombie-infested nuclear winter? Or some chump with a condo and a few thousand dollars a month mortgage payment? I'm that ninja-- and you can be, too.

you're going to miss computers

also, you can be a bohemian without being an idiot. being homeless is not the answer

>>7606317
>>7606288
>>7606268

ITT: basement-dwellers who haven't been outside of their parents' homes in five days

Marijuana ruins lives.

It'll make you homeless.

Don't do it

>>7606314

0/10

Good effort.

Anyway, there are no pros to homeless living. 90% of jobs will dump your ass if they find out you're 'willfully homeless'.

>>7606389
It also turned him into a nigger.

>>7606317

Bohemium is not the objective here. Bohemians are impoverished. My primary goal is to save money and secondary to live in an interesting way.

>>7606450
buy cargo container

furnish it...

???

no rent or mortage

>>7606498

Except that you need to buy/lease property to keep that cargo container on
st00pid

>>7606389
you must be noting butt a big old newfag to irl but you cant overdose from marijuana

>>7606391
http://www.xamuel.com/four-reasons-to-go-homeless-by-choice/

>>7606389

I can be homeless without smoking marijuana. Just you wait.

>>7606531
I dunno buy a car or an RV and park it in the middle of no where

shit

I remember in high school one of my friends became homeless by choice, and he tried to convince me to be a hobo with him. That guy dropped out of school with 2 credits remaining.

Sooner or later i am becoming homeless if i can end my life before already, when my i can't leech from my mother any longer.

I am actually living a modest life. All i need is food and my internet....

Meh, i'd really choosing the an hero option.

>>7606572
And you became a 4channer, you're no better.

>>7606596
the closet-gay pot smoking college-going 4channer no less

Ah, fuck this.

Dreaams are my reality, my only real kind of fantasy.
I dream of flying in the night and flying seems allright
Although it's only fantasyyyy

No more contribution?!

My dad was homeless even when me and my mom had a house and they were still married (she would visit him after work and sometimes sleep over in his truck). He chose to live in the street because it feels more free he said, but he would wonder how the people that would stay homeless for 5-10 years at a time could handle it. He parked his truck on the same street that the soup kitchen was on and his day was basically walking around visiting other homeless friends (to see who had alcohol), stopping by grocery stores on the days they throw out food past its expiration date (which is ALWAYS still good), and watching drive in movies with other homeless friends at the drive-in (that they never went in, their was a hill that had a great view of the movie + sound)

you run out of things to do very fast when you don't have money.....this is why they drink, among other things.

>>7606922

before you guys get funny about them being married and my dad not living with us, they had been together for 25 years prior, and my dad had been homeless before.

also, he payed the bills in the house....

OP would be suprised how many people are homeless by choice....

their was a guy people would always see panhandling in front of superstores and stuff, and i didnt know untill i volunteered at marthas villiage but, the guy was taking the money he got and buying presents for the kids of the parents who brought them to get food....

he would bring fuck tons of candy and teddy bears and shit.

and his shoes had holes in them

Night.
Going to sleep in my warm comfortable bed...but for how long :X

>>7606965
Sounds like most woman's dream man.
Gives them money, and is never around to bother them.

>>7607034
Santa?
;_;

I don't want to be homeless, I want to have my own piece of land and enjoy the comforts of life.

But I do want to get to the point where it's very inexpensive to maintain my lifestyle. I don't want much, I don't desire a $100k sports car. I want to own a house, have enough to live decently, and enough to afford a toy every so often.

My father didn't have a stable home for pretty much age 20 to age 30, not because he was without one, but because he wanted to. Although frankly I think it was his way of coping with the early death of his parents.

He traveled all over the United States and South America, worked at morgues and circuses and oil pipelines and almost becoming a drug lord.

I truly believe it helped him grow as a man and as a human being.

We don't talk about it much, but I've been mapping out the places he talked about, making adjustments to my own path, and soon I will leave.

>>7606246

I'm going to live in a car, does that count?

It seems like it could yield some interesting experiences, but I'd go crazy without my vidya gaems.

http://guide2homelessness.blogspot.com/

why the fuck would it be illegal?

>>7608424

Vagrancy laws are rather poorly defined in the United States, which allows a lot of room for abuse out of ignorance or spite.

I'm going to live a in car like a jew, hee hee hee

Love it.

>>7608424

In many cities, the following are crimes:
* Not having a fixed place to live
* Having under $100 on you at any time
* Lying in a public place
* Urinating / defecating on the sidewalk
* Stinking so badly that you cause an offense to others

>>7608389

This site is actually pretty helpful in giving practical information, but his hubris shows through at multiple points.

>>7608518

LOL that's hilarious but who gives a fuck about the law when you're homeless, what are they going to do, give you a felony for taking a shit in the woods? But you probably take a dump in the mall anyways.

>>7608599

Well they can incarcerate you, impound your vehicle, plant false evidence on you if you comply with a search of your vehicle, beat the shit out of you, take what stuff you do have. Give you endless lectures of why you're a stain on the body of society.

Being homeless kind of eliminates what human rights you come to expect in life. Police, the public, even halfway-houses give you those knowing glances that the life you're living here, now, is not a life worth living.

Homelessness is a freedom, but many times it comes at a high price.

>>7608599

Medieval Edinburgh had a good solution to homelessness.

If they caught you on the street after curfew, they would imprison you until morning, then whip you.

If they discovered that you had the scars of a former whipping, then they would torture you to death; otherwise they would then release you.

Nowadays, we just have the police shooting homeless, and the occasional civic spirited teen cleaning up the streets by bringing light and warmth to the dark corners of the city with a couple of bottles of kerosene, and some matches.

In some places, like Detroit, the winters take care of most of the homeless, and the few bands of the "eaters" pick off the rest one at a time for their special meals.

>>7608707

That's pretty cool story bro.

>>7608707
explain your last sentence

>>7608707

Very interesting facts, I like that.

however, you sound like you fear the law alot.

>>7608807

Survival comes caution and preparation, being afraid of an authority figure when you yourself are skirting on the very borders of society is entirely logical.

>>7608877

Afraid but you're borderline paranoid

>>7608877
>>7608877

Do you have any experience as a homeless man or living close to homeless or you're just spewing arm chair theory.

>>7608805

It was a reference to the groups of crazy people in some parts of the rust belt that hunt and eat other homeless. They keep finding skeletons with knife marks in abandoned warehouses now and then, showing that someone butchered the body for meat.

>>7608899

months off and on through fall and winter when I was supposed to be at college, trying to get in the mindset of doing it for larger lengths of time.

I also used to do community service in homeless shelters as a Boy Scout, when I first started doing that we didn't get to talk to them much, if at all, but later when I could drive, I started trading cigarettes for stories.

Some people were voluntary, but would only admit it out of earshot of others, others were addicts or mentally ill, moreso than any motherfucker on this site.

They all had stories, some stranger than others.

instead of homeless, i'd buy a van and a heater and sleep comfortably in it. wallmart allows you to park in their parkinglot 24/7.

i'd use public water fountain or faucet for water, buy food at a grocery store daily (no fridge), use city or library or coffee/book shop free net, sleep in the van on a futon and insulate the van, wash clothes and go to the bathroom in a public washroom.

the best i can think of for showers would be just wash your body down in a public washroom. or maybe if there was a public pool. or maybe a clean pond/lake people swam in.

>>7609104

I know a guy at uni that does this, he joined a gym for showers though.

>>7609104

Some truck stops have shower stalls, gyms, YMCAs, if you lived near a beach, I've been at camping sites that had showers as well.

>>7609104

This is what I plan on doing :D

If you paid $400 for a cheap room, that's $4800 a year or 48k in 10 years.

It's like pissing away money!

If by the time I am 30 I am still not doing anything with my life, I have decided I am going to say fuck it and just bum around the country. It would be a lot more interesting then sitting in my room all day.

any suggestions on what the best city to live homeless or in a car would be?

>>7609229

Long Beach CA.

In the nice part (Belmont Shores), I've seen bums get free rib dinners from Lucille's.
They've got it made.

>>7609272

And why do they get free rib dinnners? I assume it's left overs or throwouts?

>>7609229

Normally someplace warm, relatively stable and with low violent crimes rate. But honestly, it's safer to set up shop outside city limits and then make daytrips to do whatever you wish to do, rather than trying to find a safe or obscure place inside the city to sleep.

>>7609200

Yeah, live in a car. If you buy a Honda sedan, you can pull back the backseats, exposing the trunks. Buy memory foam and a portable futon and you're good to go.

You can pretend you are Ash Ketchem from pallet town on his journey to become a Pokemon master. You will be joined by misty (45 y/o meth whore) and brock (35 y/o black career criminal) on your travels. as you move from town to town (by hijacking cars/hitchiking/riding trucks etc) deluded my malnutrition and drugs you attempt to catch pokemon (feral dogs in back alleys) and avoid the sly tricks of team rocket (the local cops).

Enjoy.

>>7609296

Because people who live in the nice parts of Long Beach are rich as fuck, and can afford to buy bums dinner.

I'm sure they get left overs all the time, but when I saw it the man and lady walked out of the restaurant with a to-go box and gave it to some bearded beach bum. He opened it up after they walked away and it was a full rack of ribs with mashed potatoes and fries.

>>7609360

Nutrition is easy. Rice, beans, bread, water.

exercise your right,
if everyone squats together,
they cant lock everybody up ...

>>7609415

Sure they can; prisons are quickly becoming a profit center. Since there are no minimum wage laws for prisoners, American businesses now have active to a "captive" work force for rates lower than china or southeast Asia.

Sounds cool in theory but this kind of thing doesn't work out, this isn't your favorite indie movie.

>>7609370

That's awesome. Good karma to those rich pepole

>>7609415

Not sure if want, photo must be from the 60s

I would do this, get a laptop and a tripcode every now and then update /r9k/, but then you realize you don't get to shave, wash your hair, brush teeth etc.

>>7609540

Shave in the sink at Mcdonalds, brush -- all you need is a water bottle and brush it in public, in the park, stairway, or outside of your car.

Are there any pro's living in like a forest away from the city up north in Canada. Just build a small cabin and an outhouse and live off the land. I've been considering back packing for a while aimlessly to see if I can just gain the skills to survive without money but I don't know how hard it's going to be.

>>7609482

I would bitchslap Alex Supertramp if given the chance. Same goes for most of the Beat writers.

>>7609588

Hey man, for got it. Camp in your backyard for a day or two.

>>7609617

how do you charge ur laptop ? O.o

>>7609646

Starbucks, mall, library.

>>7609588

What skills (if any) do you have currently?

I was considering just sleeping at my college on a bench. Its warm enough, i think, and i don't like having to commute 3 times a week. i was thinking a backpack with tupaware food would be fine, or maybe just eat campus food (but that's expensive).

>>7609658
I've worked in construction for a summer so I have some basic understanding on how to build a sturdy structure+roofing. I have also attempted to live outside for a three days around my house. I live close by to a very secluded wooded lot, so I made a shelter and brought a sleeping bag with me out there. Howerver, it rained on me for the third night so I left to go back to my parent's house. I also had money on me and went to a grocery store to buy food for one of the nights / i also brought some with me. My biggest fear is that I would run out of food fast living on my own far away from a town. I've never gone hunting before, never trapped, and have little knowledge of eatable greenery. So any tips for how easy it is to pick up those skills would be nice.

>>7609721

Do you have a car, you can always sleep in there.

There's ways to make your car VERY SLEEPABLE

>>7609729

Well you can start tonight by reading eating local plants, then you can move into fishing, then move into small game animals.

>>7609749
i don't, but what do you advise for making a regular size car more sleepable? if the backseats don't fold down into the trunk, wouldn't sleeping in a reclined frontseat be a little uncomfortable after a while?

>>7609779

There's this thing called the "car cot" because it's goes on top of the front seat and makes the seat more leveled, so you can get a good night sleep.

Too bad I can't find the link to the website that sells it :(

If you're serious you can always remove the backseats if it doesn't fold..

>>7609756
Right now I'm trying to find a liable forum of people that have lived so isolated like I wish to do.

>>7609729

Specific literature? I've used the U.S. army manual, S.A.S. survival guide (which is a little more vague than its American counterpart, but still good nonetheless), old Boy Scout handbooks, nutrition guides, maps on whatever region you're in.

While a basic shelter is good, you should have a couple tarps with you, one with which to overlay on your shelter, and then of course you can fold one over on your sleeping bag to keep out a majority of the moisture if it rains.

Online there are multiple blogs on bushcraft, lashings, ultralight hiking, cheap recipes when you're either flat out broke or just in the wilderness and you need to scrounge up stuff.

I remember someone said, van dwelling is the "aristocrat of homeless" but homeless is relative.

Isn't earth our home? Homeless people aren't homeless, they're HOUSELESS.

>>7609855
How does afford (other than steal, I guess) gas for a car when homeless? Unless you somehow aren't jobless.

>>7609864

I wouldn't know, but I think the best route would be getting a part-time job, and getting a biz mailing address. I pay $10 a month for mine and it's in a suite address. I get my tax return, driver license, etc to that address.

You need some sort of income unless you're 100 percent homeless and living in the woods LOL

>>7609864

You can have a job and still be homeless.

1. Don't sleep excessively close to where you work.
2. Pack up whatever you use to sleep before you arrive at said workplace.
3. Keep up appearances. Groomed, shaved, don't smell offensive.
4. You want to maintain a facade of normal existence. This means a phone number, an address, and perhaps even a bank account depending on the method of payment.

Phone is easy, just grab a pay-as-you-go.
Address is a little harder as these days a P.O. box will throw up a few flags, try to find like a UPS store of some other variation and set up a mailing address there, it will be a real street address.
The bank account is just so you can cash checks without the hassle of trying to come up with a reason as to why it always ends up as cash. Plus you'd be stupid to have all your money on hand.