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    38 KB Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)14:14:58 No.7547572  
    What the fuck is this, Robot?

    They tell me I have the freedom to speak, but only if I have the courage to be ostracized for my opinions.
    I no longer pay for my actions by way of a corporeal death- instead, I pay by living. I pay to work to live.
    They say there's a growing trend in young adults who continue to live with their parents, because life outside is increasingly difficult, greatly due to financial concerns.
    But, YOUNG adults? What adults are there at all?
    The great thinkers of the past gave us their best in their 20's. That just isn't happening today, because someone in their 20's today can hardly express anything of real value since if they try they're quickly stifled for being young and rebellious, naive, too idealistic, or more than anything- for not having an original thought.
    Originality is a LOAD OF SHIT anyway, and if we don't get our thoughts out there to be primed and corrected, then their growth will continue to be stunted.
    They say the kids today aren't angry. How can we not be? How can we look at what we're living in and say there's nothing wrong with it? Are we that pacified, or distracted? Or is it just that we've lost hope and we can't possibly act in the way we'd like to, because we're so broken that we don't believe it'll get us anywhere?
    Those of us who are dissatisfied look to the older generation for a notion of confidence, and what we find is that the confident are usually ASSHOLES. What a thing to be.

    When do I get to become a person, robot?
    When will I get to know anything, or say anything with certainty?
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)14:17:47 No.7547592
    What is a man?

    bloxx
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)14:21:58 No.7547640
    >>7547592
    A once-noble creature that is slowly going extinct.
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)14:23:03 No.7547652
    >>7547592

    Miserable pile... secrets... etc. etc.
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)14:27:09 No.7547696
    >The great thinkers of the past gave us their best in their 20's

    wat. I can't think of any.
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)14:44:58 No.7547884
    Here's some grace OP. Read and learn.


    http://tarnac9.wordpress.com/texts/the-coming-insurrection/
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)14:45:38 No.7547895
    >>7547696
    None? Not Einstein? Not Schiele? Not Kant? (The last began in his 20's but not saying necessarily that his contributions ended or peaked there)

    Anyway there are plenty
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)14:49:25 No.7547920
    >>7547884
    Oh dear.
    I will read that, but I wanted to know what I was reading first so I Wiki'd the Tarnac 9.

    I hadn't heard about this before now. Terrorist actions? It sounds like a militant solution to the capitalist problem... that isn't what we need. Or, is the "terrorist" brand conservative propaganda against change?
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)14:51:11 No.7547932
    >>7547920


    These days, anyone who isn't pro-capitalist is clearly a terrorist. Just read and don't let the propaganda machines make your mind for you.
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)14:58:34 No.7548002
    >>7547932
    I'm trying to make up my own mind, but I'd like to do so intelligently.

    It says that a journal of theirs, Tiqqun, is rooted in the philosophy of Foucault among others. I've never read him, but I've heard complaints about his writings (the sort that basically say "this is a pile of shit").

    Can Anon tell me anything about him?
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)14:59:58 No.7548012
    Sometimes I think I was born too late - there really is little a single person can do nowadays to drastically shift perception of some issue of any real importance or make a scientific breakthrough.

    That said, the probability of me being born into a family where I could avoid working to read books, browse the internets, study and explore life, while spending as little time doing monotonous labor would be drastically lower.

    Mind you - not many people consider that fact to be worth anything in particular - they just DO stuff for one reason or the other - mostly some competitive bullshit (an artifact of evolution (though maybe one which still has some use)).

    Anyway...

    A short story of time - hawking
    The history of western philosophy - russel
    The selfish gene - dawkins
    Goedel Escher Bach - hofstadter
    and say...
    Pale blue dot - that astronomer guy

    are some things worth reading before trying to advertise your ideas as revolutionary and new..

    With diverse knowledge of the way of things comes a sense of calmness unattainable by most - someday you'll simply see no reason to compete with or compare yourself with anything or anyone.

    We are simply input-output machines with a memory bank to better model the future and are therefore good at this survival game of life.

    Our ego is merely a byproduct of us trying to predict the futures involving ourselves as active participants... or smth
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)15:13:35 No.7548131
    >>7548012
    Thank you for the reading list Anon.
    I'm currently reading Hawking's Brief History of Time

    I'm hardly trying to advertise my ideas as revolutionary, in fact many of them are restating things that have been predicted hundreds of years ago.
    But the fact is that I DO feel dissatisfied, that I AM angry about the way things are, and that I hardly feel I can speak EXCEPT as Anonymous, because of that very fear of judgement etc.
    Maybe you weren't even implying that, but just to clarify.

    Also,
    >someday you'll simply see no reason to compete with or compare yourself with anything or anyone

    That sounds very Eastern to me, very much like the mantra of a meditator.
    I have been exposed to some of that, but I can't say that I Always agree with it because even if it's a noble personal philosophy, it's also the kind that can be imposed upon the working class: be satisfied, be quiet, be complacent, be distracted... be OK with what we're doing here. And then if someone isn't, and they try to rise up, they are somehow less evolved or enlightened?

    That's what scares me, Anon.

    I'll freely admit my ideas aren't the most well educated. As extensive as my reading has been, it's hardly enough nor is it going fast enough for my liking.
    But I'm asking, as I said, in order to grow.
    >> Anonymous 02/17/10(Wed)15:22:25 No.7548214
    >>7548012
    >>7548131

    Actually now that I think of it, it's exactly the sort of thing I was talking about.
    In publishing something, someone is asserting that his ideas are worth being heard and therefore assuming that at least some of them are new or at least necessary to restate at his particular time.

    Part of what I'm asking is, how can a man gain confidence to do that today if So many ideas have already been had, if these things have already been said?
    Is there nothing left for us but to fall back and go home?

    The peaceful man will fall back of his own will and he won't feel forced to do so, won't feel sadness at not having contributed


    Ahh fuck it, I don't know what the point is.



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