>>7286718
Your Beautiful!

>>7286718

HAHA, is that Kevin Smith in the upper left?

that's a pretty good transition for only five months. If that's you OP, I'm impressed! I'd awkwardly say "hi" to you in a public setting, as is my style.

Oh God I'm straight and if you had a vagina-plasty or whatever it's called I'd fuck the living shit out of you.

Am I gay now?

>>7286738
This. Seriously. Did you meet Kevin Smith somewhere? If so, that's pretty cool.

>>7286718

man you are cute as a male and a female. lucky you. Yeah i would probably hit on you at first sight.

you make such a cute both genders.

thirding the cute either way sentiment.

Posting text to feed the hungry Overlord, may we all worship His name and legacy.

>>7286855
What? He just put on makeup and grew out his hair.

>>7286855
this
she looks ugly

Holy shit, it is Kevin Smith.

This is now a thread about Kevin Smith

>>7286855

Goddammit, that's fucking cheating.

I've never been so hard.

>>7286916
OMG I LUFF KEVIN SMITH!!!!111

This guy would get so much pussy with that smile. Fuck him for becoming a girl.

Also, I'd rape the shit out of him as a girl. He'd taste my cock in his anus.

>>7286987

EH'S NO SEFF GWEEN :D

>>7286718

Favorite Kevin Smith Movie: I'm pretty sure its Dogma, but Chasing Amy was rather fun as well.

I'm really excited about the upcoming Kevin Smith Green Hornet comic, which uses the script he pitched for the early 2000's version of the movie

>>7288312
girly guy becomes many girl. both unattractive. fail.

>>7288339
dogma is garbage. chasing amy was probably his "best" from a critical standpoint, but I like the campyness of mallrats and clerks (the b&w one).

>>7286718

Decided I was gay and realized that my country kills gays. Moved to Australia and realized I do like girls.

>>7288368
I'm more of a fan of the cast of Dogma than the actual story, but I'd love to hear your argument for why it was garbage, if you can take the time to share.

>>7288312

LOOK AT HIS EYES.

>>7288387

lt's like the first time I heard the Beatles

>>7288339
i like smodcast more than his movies to be honest, but i still check them out when they're at the movies

tards and newfags, all of you. This pic was posted first on 4chan (you guessed it) LAST SUMMER.
It is not OP

I dunno, you looked pretty good as a guy, but girl suits you too except for the face just a bit.

If you were a twin it would be orgasmic.

>>7286718

I wonder what she looks like now :3

Oshi, it's Anonymiss.

>>7286718
i really like penises. in my mouth. and butt.

>>7286718

Actually looks like Milla Jovovich in the one month photo. Pretty freaking hot for a transgender. Wouldn't have known without the before photos.

Shame i'm going to work right now, when someone just barely linked me this thread... Old gross pics are old, guise. I don't post on 4chan, and since the LAST thread made about me on /r9k/, I haven't posted any new pics on 420chan either (where these came from). I took this one just now on tiny, and I look like shit, but that's just to prove it's me. In case you're curious, i just passed my 13 month mark a couple weeks ago.

Any questions? i have about ten minutes to kill.

>>7290174
I actually get compared to Mila Jovovich just about every time i cam.

>>7290195
You do plan to do this your entire life? Do you ever fear that you might change your mind?

>>7290195
Why would you do this? i mean i've been curious about this for a while. But then i realized i'm a MAN, i could pick up some weights, lift heavy shit, be awesome, shoot a gun, code some software, build a house.
And so i did.

>>7290202
Not at all. This is something I've dealt with all my life, and I'm not going to give up a chance at my personal happiness. Usually if someone has doubts like that, they're addressed when meeting with a psych. There are a LOT of people who can't do this, or who try but aren't transgendered, and it can lead to some serious problems. Therapy is always good.

>>7290225
Because men can't suck dicks without being gay ;D

>>7290195
>>7290200

Well the resemblance is quite uncanny. Don't know how you feel about the comparison but I'd be pretty stoked... I mean most male to females never escape looking at least a little bit like a bloke, but you've pretty much succeeded at the transformation.

Especially since you look almost identical to Jovovich who is a freaking highly successful model and actress.

>>7290235
If being gay would make me happy, then i would be gay. Unfortunately for you i still like dem tittays and dat vag.

>>7290195

I have a few questions.

What are you? Like, gay, straight, something else? And did the HRT affect this at all? I just ask because I am fairly certain I'm transgendered, but I also fairly certain I'm straight (I like chicks). I wish there was a less loaded way to ask, but will the hormones make me gay? Because as much as I want to go through with it, I fear drastic personality change.

>>7290239
Tittays are ever so comfy to have =D

>>7290242
Mones will not make you gay. They WILL however help you "clarify" any confusion you may have. Estrogen makes you more docile and sweet, and prone to going "D'awww!" when a guy does something sweet for you, but maybe you still are only attracted to women. It's all about you. I consider myself straight (I like men), but sexually, I have my bi tendencies. There are about 3 women i know who i'd sleep with, but I feel i'm only capable of having a fulfilling, romantic, loving relationship with a man.

Have you tried looking up any other info? Lurk on 420chan's /cd/ for a while? Talked to a psychologist about getting on HRT? I self med, but that's just due to the lack of availability of psychs who have PhD's in human sexuality or gender. If you get a doc with a PhD in something else, like child development or something, they can fuck you up REALLY bad. I've heard a LOT of horror stories of detransitions, and stuff like being sent to a 'pray the gay away' labor camp, and even ones who WILL prescribe stuff, but just shit that will hurt you like birth control. Also, if you DO start this, get progesterone, and make sure it's not synthetic. Shit will keep you from getting osteoperosis and breast cancer, as well as help your boobies grow right

>>7286811
Well if you ever see me in person in guy-mode or not, just be all like "sup, i herd u liek mudkipz, and saw that thread about you on /r9k/. wanna bone?"

If you don't completely gross me out, I might say yes lol

>>7290296
whats the difference between synthetic and natural progesterone?

in fact, I'm pretty sure it's literally impossible for there to be any chemical difference?

>>7290296

Doesn't progesterone make you act like a complete bitch? I remember a drug sounding like progesterone, being produced naturally by males, which converts testosterone, into estrogen. Is it the same? Or do you also need to take blockers?

>>7290320

This monstrosity of nature is wrong. If it's chemically-synthesized progesterone, it's identical to "natural" progesterone. Natural? What the fuck does that even mean? It's all fucking atoms, molecules, proteins, etc.

Unless the travesty against God is referring to a chemical analogue that performs similarly to progesterone but isn't identical. If that's the case it was disingenuous in its post anyways.

Cross dresser that likes girls here.

I don't think I should take hormones because I'd lose ability to pleasure a woman.. sucks. :/

>>7290320
Synthetic is made in a lab, has side effects, and doesn't protect or give you any benefits, all it does is get rid of hot flashes. Google benefits of progesterone, it's really an amazing hormone.

>>7290333
Progesterone is made in the uterus, men don't get it. it acts as a natural anti-depressant, but if your other meds are off balance, they can make you pms. basically induces a period only without the blood lol. Some people only take it for one week out of the month because of that, i take it daily.

>>7290378
>performs similarly to progesterone but isn't identical.
That's exactly what it is. "Natural" stuff, both estro and progesterone, is extracted from the uterus of a cow, somehow. I'm no scientist, i just take their bloody drugs.


Anyway folks, i'm off to work! that was fun

>>7290378
Well I love traps. But from my brief research, this one is wrong.

it seems that she is talking about the latter. there is both synthetic progesterone and closely related but different 'progesterins', the latter being less effective.

Synthetic progesterone is identical to the 'natural' kind of course. I for one can't wait for the naturalistic fallacy to die in a fire.

>>7290491

Quoted for fucking truth bro. In my Chemistry class, we made smells one day.

Professor said, "This is pear."

I mixed some shit I can't remember anymore with butyric acid, smell, and you know what? It was goddamn pear smell.

I replicated in the laboratory the same chemical a pear makes naturally that gives it its particular scent.

Fuck the organic movement. All the same goddamn nutrients.

well I spent the last ten minutes looking at youtube vids of mtf transitions, thank-you 4chan.

>>7290529
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUBoLekamXc&NR=1
Wow at this guy.

>>7290523
The irony is for Miss Trap here. it's exactly the sort of unscientific thinking that will prevent any advances towards an "Instant girl pill" to miraculous fix incorrect genders. Because it would involve research that no doubt "plays god" or some such.

The main difference between so-called 'natural' products and synthetic products is that in the natural products you have a mix of compounds, hundreds of them, while the synthetic products have to be mixed by a person. So when you understand the active ingredients perfectly, like with aspirin and willow bark, we can replicate that in the lab, but when we have an incomplete understanding of the active ingredients, like in most things, we can't make it quite right.

Artificial progesterone would be fine, but in the body it is accompanied by a whole soup of other agents, and it's presence triggers other hormones to be released. Example; steroids do have the desired effect, ie, making you bulk up, but when the body detects that you have a lot of these compounds it reduces it's output of them and shrinks your balls.

>>7290400

I tried to talk to you once in #cd and you were kinda mean to me. :(

kevin smith is gay?

>>7290663

at least the HRT made him loose weight... but i can see he still has his man boobs

Wow, you're cute. I'm a lesbian and I would do. Are you gay or straight?

Your smile is still cute as hell. You look adorable in the "4 months" right photo.

Bampybamp

Lesbian here. I have no stories because I'm an anti-social closeted shut-in.

Feels bad, man.

Why does the 1 month one look the most feminine?

>>7291984
>anti-social closeted shut-in.

>implying females can be anti-social.

wow, i just got off work and this thread's still alive!!

>>7292201
Got vag?

>>7290491
>>7290523
>>7290562
>>7290590
YEAH! all that shit and stuff. I haven't slept in a few days, so.. yeah

>>7290400
inb4 Mrs. Garrison "Scissor me timbers!!1"

>>7290616
I'm mean to a lot of people, usually in a playful manner though... sorry if I genuinely made you feel bad or anything... what was your nick in there?

>>7290667
lol at this whole convo

>>7290669
see one of my above posts, i mentioned that i'm basically bi-ish

>>7292009
Prooobably because that's the only one of the set that was taken with a shitty webcam with a max resolution of like... 160 by somethun lol

>>7292201
Got vag?

Cockorvagbecauseyou'recuteblox

>>7292281
give me $30,000.00 for surgeries, transition time, and pre-req's for SRS and we'll talk ;D

>>7292305
Fuck I hate it when it says muted, then posts it anyway.

More importantly, hot chick + cock = win.

>>7292293

Not gonna list entire nick (Don't want to be bugged by LOLOLOL peoples), but Oreo. Don't know if you remember me...

sup dudebro, um uh nice tits man, wanna fuck? no homo.

>>7292422
No homo, broski. let's do this shit

>>7292497
sweet broseph, but remember BALLS DO NOT TOUCH OR ITS TOTALLY GAY, like... triple faggot gay bromah.

I want a cute trap girlfriend, is this really too much to ask?

>>7292548
Not at all! Most of us are lonely shutins with no self esteem, shame most (i've met anyway) are lesbian

>>7292548

It's impossible. If you're attracted to them, you're "ZOMG CHASER" and they treat you as badly as 'non-chasers' treat them. Oh, the irony.

>>7292563
I've never even so much as seen a trap in real life... either that or they were really convincing.

A few months ago there was a trap who went by the moniker "OP" on here, I wish she'd continued posting because she was just lovely.

>>7292581
Yeah, I didn't know about the chaser thing until recently. It's sad, some traps talk about wanting boyfriends who'll accept them for who they are but as soon as you tell them you're interested they label you as a chaser and avoid you.

If I wanted to put up with being friendzoned for no reason I'd look for a real woman.

>>7292581
traps are just girls lol, if you like them because you think they're a trap chances are you're a chaser. i know this sentence doesnt make sense but i havent slept in 2 days.

>>7292581

It must be difficult though, there are so many douchebags out there who are only interested in hooking up with a transsexual to fuck so weeding out the assholes and finding a suitable partner must be incredibly difficult. Naturally it's another case of pricks ruining things for honest wellmeaning people.

>>7292608
what he means to say, i think, is: when a transgirl is approached by someone who is only interested in them because they are a girl with a penis or a guy with boobs will automatically be labeled as a creepy person seeking out a fetish. What most of us want is a boyfriend who, when the time comes, would be fully accepting, but approached us regarding us as 100% female rather than as a trap or sex toy or whatever

>>7292563

Leave me and my being a lesbian trap alone!

>>7292582

The thing about finding traps is, as >>7292563 pointed out. We're usually shut ins and don't go out because of horrible self-esteem. Sure we MAY look good, but we're positively terrified someone will know, so we often don't go out until we're positive we pass. And by then you won't know that we're packin' cock.

On another note, there's a FUCKTON of traps and trans that post on 4chan. We just don't really broadcast it.

>>7292632
really, unless you're looking for a non op transexual you really shouldnt even bother looking- if you happen to date one, cool, shes gonna get srs sooner or later... so... yea... i think i made my point... maybe not... oooo peice a' candy

All I've ever wanted is a partner I can be myself around - man, woman, trap, I don't care about the packaging as long as I'm not the most feminine looking person in the relationship. I know that may seem like a contradiction but there it is.

>>7292608
they're not girls, they are men with breast implants. Do you think any normal, non-chasing straight male would want to date a man with breast implants?

>>7292676

What about those of us with natural breasts? Y'know, like mine and Anonymiss's.

Aside from having a penis and no vaj, we're just like regular girls. The way we talk, walk, thinking everything except the actual genitals.

And if you go around checking everyone's pants before you meet them, you must make a lot of enemies. Go troll elsewhere.

>>7292676
inorite, who the hell would be attracted to this dude

>they are men with breast implants

facepalm.png

Considering traps are a staple part of the 4chan experience it's hard to believe that some people are still so ignorant.

Any traps in England? I'm not going to demand email addresses or pics or anything, I just want to know if you're really out there :(

>>7292645
How are we supposed to meet you when you admit to being reclusive shutins?

>>7292836

The internet. That's where we all are. Because we can present as we want to be. Without having to try and fight. Our 'personality' (LOL PERSONALITY ON 4CHAN) shows rather than what we look like.

So, the internet.

>>7292844
>Our 'personality' shows rather than what we look like.

inb4 EVERY GIRL EVER

FAO Traps

If a guy was taking you out on a date what kind of things would you like to do? Would you do normal things like movies, shopping or whatever or would you rather do indoor activities like playing games or watching movies?

Should traps be upset about chasers?

I dunno, should women be upset that men want to fuck them, or vise versa? Why get all twisted up over a sexual preference?

>>7292878
Those are all fine. I'm an odd one: i LOVE a night at the arcade just as much as shopping :/

I play mean air hockey. Mean. fucking. air hockey. >:3

>>7292878

That's entirely dependent on the girl's personality. Some of us like shopping, some of us like movies, some of us like sitting at home and kicking ass on video games or whatever.

Some of us like all of those things and it really depends on the mood. And as with any girl, doing the same thing over and over again gets boring. One night we might wanna see a movie, the next sit at home, the next shopping, the next clubbing. There are no generalizations you can really make.

YES, a LOT of traps overdo being a girl to try and fit in with the stereotype, but most of us are just normal people.

>>7292906
If a woman goes up to a man and says "zomg you're hot i wanna fuck you UNF UNF UNF" the man will be like "Awesome!"

If a man goes up to a woman and says the same thing, it'll most likely be pepper spray. Women think differently than men; women have different standards when it comes to sexual things. If you can't realize why that'd creep a woman out instead of flatter her, then chances are you've never had a girlfriend. Enjoy your hand, sir.

>>7292912
What gender do people think you are? Like, do people treat you like a girl or do you still resemble a guy?

>>7292912
The only reason I asked was because some traps, as you said, seem to totally overcompensate and try to do typically girly activities like going shopping or to clubs all the time. Those who post here tend to be the ones who prefer to stay inside and only go out occasionally.

>>7292955

People view us as what we are presenting. Usually. It honestly depends. A lot of people personally call me she, even when I'm out as a guy. I never correct them for obvious reasons. I've had long conversations with people who eventually asked who my husband was. It was weird.

Sometimes people think I'm a guy. I usually groan to myself but say nothing. These are usually days when I'm not wearing any make up or when I just don't care or haven't shaved.

And a lot of time you just have to have a subtle approach to get people to see you the right way. Eyeliner, long hair, and tits are pretty much all people need to see and they call you a girl.

>>7292965

Trust me, I know. A lot try and overcompensate and be super girly. And really that's just dodging from one stereotype to another. Also you have to remember.

There is a difference between a trap and a trans. A trap might just do it for kicks, Where a transsexual or transgender is doing it because they need to. We transition to be ourselves and be happy, not to be girly girls. Well, some do...

>>7292936
no, it would be akin to a man approaching a woman because he is sexually attracted to women, a "chaser" approaching a trap because he is sexually attracted to traps.


Just because i'm sexually attracted to women it doesn't mean i approach them like this "ZOMFG I WANNA FOCK YOO" it just means that i'll be romantically interested in them instead of being romantically interested in men or tarps

>>7293005
I personally find androgyny incredibly attractive and would kill for a partner who could easily pass for either gender.

>>7286855
This is 25% hormones and 75% make up

>>7286855
Anyone know who this guy is? He's really fucking hot. Apart from the whole... y'know... becoming female thing.

>>7293020
Sorry for continually using the word "trap", I know it's not the preferred term but it's so much easier than trying to differentiate between crossdressers and transsexuals.

>>7293087
He uses the name "Ryo"

>>7293087
It's "Ryo", s/he sometimes posts on TranChan.

>>7293097

No worries, I understand. I was merely qualifying for that particular post. I tend to just say trap because it's easier. And often fun in vid rooms and stuff.

>>7293044 it depends though, if its a trap- cool, if its a transgirl however having someone like you solely for the one thing you hate about yourself is well just very bad.
also most women hate players (chasers for women)

So most traps are reclusive shut ins from understandable image issues and social pressures. You advise guys just meet traps via the internet. Seems cool. No risk, image issues are controlled, etc. However an guy who posts looking for traps or goes to a trap personals site is going to get labelled a chaser and avoided. It's a no win right there. Especially for us guys who simply just don't have any hang ups over gender and just find some trap girls beautiful.

>>7293126

this is coming from a guy who hangs out as a guy on tranny boards for most of the day and is eDating a 17 year old boy hahaha

wow one month in you turned into Laetitia Sadier

>>7293135

In all fairness it's no-win for them too, if they advertise themselves then they're inevitably going to attract the attention of undesirable people, have a look through some of the threads on tranchan and see how many sleazy guys there are posting pictures of themselves and making comments like "YER ID TOTALLY FUCK UR ASS BABY".

>>7286718
fuck what i waste..o well. More pussy for me

>>7293162 i've explained plenty of times how i got there, besides, its not like i forced myself on her... i hope it was mutual ._.

>>7293185
Fair comment. It's definately a no win situation. The subject is to fetishized and society to unaccepting for any normal dating to happen really.

>More pussy for me

And that's why you're posting here on /r9k/ right now, is it? Nice try, stud.

It all started when I bought a mac...

>>7293044
first, chaser would be the one who approaches with UNF. some consider those who want romantic relationships with them just because they are traps to be chasers as well. second, not many transgirls want to be dated just because of their cocks. deep down, that makes us feel like you only see us as men, boys in dresses, crossdressers, trannies, etc. because you're putting your emphasis of attraction on the fact that we're girls with penises, and not "real" girls, so to speak. That's why so many get quickly labeled as chasers.

>>7293126
this, etc.

TOO EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT RYO: she's fucking awesome, and I would not believe she has a penis if she hadn't have shown me. That's not makeup, baby. She's got some new pics floating around /cd/ of her wearing nothing but a tshirt, socks and panties and hot DAYUM... knowing she has a penis just baffles the shit out of me and makes me very, very envious.

>>7293241
-_- not everyone is a virgin like you

>>7286718
DUDE when did Kevin Smith do hormone treatment?

>society to unaccepting for any normal dating to happen really

I guess that ultimately depends on your living arrangements and financial state. I'm male but if I ever entered into a relationship with another male I'd simply rent a two bedroom place with them and pretend to be roommates*.

(* This is actually my fantasy ;___;)

>>7293255
best comment in whole thread <3

>>7293290
Living together or actually dating wouldn't be a problem. Meeting up and finding mutual attraction is the awkward bit. How do you manage that without the trap attracting pervy neckbeards or the guy being labelled a chaser?

>>7293290
being gay is in no way the same as being trans. Being in a trans relationship has a far worse social stigma, to the point where we're statistically the minority with the most hate crimes and murders each year.

I worked at Best Buy once as a Loss Prevention guy.

Some skinny homeless-looking queer came in with a return. So he's at customer service and literally erupts at the girl trying to help him. He apparently past the 30 days return policy or some shit, but he's coming down hard on the girl who is in tears by now. He then storms out.

Causing a giant scene and reducing one of our employees to tears was just too much so I went out and told him he should cool it and maybe apologize. The fudgepacker's bum buddy appears at of nowhere and begins to scream at me. Fucker then takes a swing. That was it.

Pillow-muncher went down hard, I heard his head hit the sidewalk. Ass ranger dragged him away and we parted.

I got to punch a faggot. It was the highlight of my shortlived career at best Buy.

FUCK! I love Kevin Smith.

Chasing Amy is fuckawesome. The guy that inspired me to be a film maker.

>>7293350
I rather liked that story! =D Shame about the girl, though. Gays can be mean.

>>7293324
When I said "a relationship with another male" that included traps. I didn't think it through before I hit submit.

I met a cool transwoman the other day whilst working retail. She was out with her boyfriend shopping for tents and camping stuff. She really didn't 'pass' to well but I called her miss and was polite and helpful. She relaxed visibly when I referred to her in the feminine and acted normally with her. I can't imagine the shit she has to put up with where asking a sales person for help may lead to a hateful comment.

Traps threads are the only reason I come to /r9k/ anymore. They're always so interesting.

>>7293380
"Excuse me, can i get a price check on this?" "Sure thing, ma-er, SIR, lol, why are you dressed like that"
or
"Sure thing... uh... dude"
or even easier
"Umm... take it to that register over there..." *she leaves* "Fucking freak/faggot/etc."

and that's a best case scenario. worst would be if the employee is, well, normal in their opinion of trannies and follows the person and either beats them up and breaks a few limbs, cuts off their dick with a knife in an alley, or kills them (all of which i've actually read about in real cases).

This is why transdating is inherently awkward and trap girls are reclusive. It's a dangerous world filled with the hateful and the neckbearded.

well folks, i'm dead tired. takin' a nap. if the thread dies before i get back, i'll leave ya and say it was a fun if not bitchy day

I always cringe when I see fortysomething year old guys in the supermarket at three AM dressed in ridiculous makeup and awful feminine clothes. I understand that it's how you want to present yourself but would it really hurt to restrain yourself for your own personal safety? You can dress feminine without wearing skirts and clown makeup.

fuckedupthepostblox

I dunno.

I find it hard to realistically pursue my attraction to traps because, yes, part of it is an almost fetishistic attraction, and playing off my bisexuality, but on the other hand, every trap I've ever talked with at any length has, without fail, been far, far more interesting, personality-wise, than any genetic girl.

Hmm.

Any thoughts, traps/trans?

>>7293425

Hmm.

It's weird the reactions that 'sexual deviancies', for lack of a better term, (LGBT, basically) can bring out of people.

I mean, I'd honestly, with all my heart, expect just about every person I know (And I'm in the military!) to show just as much courtesy to a flaming homosexual, the most butch lesbian on the planet, or the most un-passable transperson, as they would to any other person.

Granted, this may not be much courtesy, given that we're all a bunch of rude, foul-mouthed fucks, but I would be genuinely surprised and shocked if any of those people didn't get shown the same courtesy, and especially if they were shown a deliberately rude, hostile, or even violent attitude.

Being offensive through ignorance is something else entirely, "Dude, why're you wearing makeup?" 'n all.

Ryo is smalltime, I fap with Natalie.

http://www.xtube.com/play_re.php?v=HiisM-C136-

Homosexuality is wrong.
bloxing

>>7293546
Really? You read that in a book somewhere? :)

So where is a good place to hang out and meet traps/transgirls?

>>7293162

It's fucking hilarious, guy's all highier and mightier and shit, and he's in his mid-20s macking on TWO underaged boys, I think. But he sure likes to tell people they're chasers!

Btw, how many under-aged kids have you sent photos of your penis to?

>>7293680
i'm 19, shes was over 20 and we decided to be friends, and my gf is 18
:|

>>7293618
This has already been discussed at length. The short answer is that you can't, the only way you'll ever meet a trap is through a mutual friend.

>>7293719

And Mai from Texas, the 17 year old? Or don't count that one? Haha.

>>7293255

I hear the new ones come with free tampons and a subscription to Oprah magazine.

>>7293768 shes been flipping back and forth between wanting to date me and not, so we also decided to be friends and not have sex :/

OP was hot as both a male and a female. You are the envy of traps everywhere.

>>7293808

Ohhh, so you only CONSIDERED fucking a 17 year old boy.

This is on top of an 18 year old, and a 20 year old?

All "traps". Hahaha, you're such a fucking chaser. So again, did you send the 17 year old photos of your cock?

>>7293808

Really sucks to be made to feel bad because of your sexual/emotional/relationship desires, doesn't it?

I'm not the one trolling you, but it's some valid food for thought.

>>7293882

Everyone judges people, slut.

>>7293915

This guy is hilariously presumptive and holier-than-thou over on 420chan and in their IRC channel. It's pretty humorous to seem him exposed for the deviant he is.

Faggots. The lot of you.

faggotblox

Wow, I leave for work for a while and it devolves into this?

Look. Vic is fucking with all of you, don't take his shit seriously. He's a nice guy too.

And for all those wondering. We spend most of our lives staring at someone we hate in the mirror. That's often why we have self esteem and confidence issues. It DOES make us feel better if you refer to us as female when we're out attempting to look female, at least as a courtesy. Wait til we're well out earshot to make comments or keep them to yourself. If you ARE going to say something, do it in a nice way because... I mean, I know this is 4chan and you're all internet tough guys. But we're human too. We put up with enough shit.

If you really wanna meet a trap or a trans person, find a place either in person or online where we frequent, and meet as friends. Do NOT go looking for a relationship or sex. Come as a friend, and if someone fancies you and vice versa, treat it like you would a real girl.

With a real girl you don't walk up and say "fuck me" you ask her out nicely and hope she says yes, if she doesn't you move on. Don't go out with us because you have a fetish. If you go out with us, do it because you make friends with one of us and like us for who we are, not what we are.

Advice plox!

Although I'm not a trap I do enjoy dressing in a somwhat girlish fashion, not to a ridiculous extent but enough for people to do a double take when they see me. I get a kick when people say "Sorry, I thought you were a girl". Anyway, I've been growing my hair and it's got to the stage where I badly need a haircut, the thing is I've never been to a salon and I've no idea what I should ask for, I have to have something unisex but I don't know how to approach it. What should I do?

>>7294183

Just go in and talk to the hairdresser. But be warned. A lot of hair stylists, at least in my experience, have this whole thing where..

You say you want X.
They say SURE THING!
They think "This customer is an idiot. They will look terrible with X'
Hairstylists gives you slightly different hair cut and takes 4 extra inches off, leaving you with months and months of work to regrow the lost inches.

>>7294201
That's exactly what has made me put this off for so long. My sister gave me a card for a gay hairdresser who is supposed to be pretty decent although I'm still terrified of going and trying to explain what I want.

Is there anything I can do about becoming more girly in appearance and also losing the amount or thickness of hair that grows all fucking over me, _without_ growing boobs?

>>7294340
Haircut guy here.

Body hair is a nightmare. Personally I shave my armpits, chest and pubic hair once a week, this may seem daunting at first but once you get into the habit it's not a big deal. If you have thick hair I suggest investing in some electric clippers, the kind they do buzzcuts with at a barber shop, and give yourself the once over with those before shaving. For your ass I recommend hair removal cream, I buy the sensitive variety then smear it all over my ass then after five to ten minutes I sit in the bath and pull out the hair in clumps, it's unpleasant but it works.

>>7294473
Yeah that's exactly what I do. But the problem is I seem to be stuck between either being a 6'2" bear-hairy German man or bald like a shaved poodle.

In this cold, however, I'll stick with being hairy.

>>7293863
look, click. i never offered to have sex with any of them, they offered it to me. and yes a 19 year old fucking a 17 year old is perfectly legal, however neither mai nor the other girl were poly, and i didnt want our relationships to deteriorate so we both decided to be friends.

oh, and i was invited into 420chans #cd :P

>>7294473

Way too much fucking work for me, I've tried. I just can't bother to keep it up on a regular basis. I trim, but whoever I'm (eventually, god willing) with will just have to deal with it. It's mainly just my legs anyway.

You're all a bunch of fags, but some of you are cute. All of you are fellow humans, so I hope it works out and you can be pretty ladies so guys like me will stop calling you fags.

>>7294063

So what's the best way to approach if we only want a booty call? Should I just give up and get a tranny hooker? That option really doesn't appeal to me.

>>7294989
you only want sex, but you dont want a hooker? :/

Here r9k, just to share:

This is me, I'm currently in diagnostics and haven't even started hormones.

Will not be a trap, just a girl. I hate that I'll have to become some weird hybrid in order to get there, but the instant-gender-switch-ray still hasn't been invented. Work harder, instant-gender-switch-ray inventors.

If you recognise me from anywhere, congratulations, you know something more than most people. Keep it quiet.

>>7295012

Can't tell if serious. Guessing no and hoping someone will respond.

>>7295143
sure there are some who like to just fool around but dont get your hopes up, just like there are slutty girls again dont get your hopes up.
>>7295126
just a compliment, but you look good and passable from that pic, if you're seriously considering a transition (and it really seems you have strong GID) check out inhousepharmacy for hormones

>>7294989
>>7295143

The best way? DON'T. If you want us for a booty call just put an ad on craigslist or something. You don't seem to understand. We don't WANT people to want us just because we have a cock. That's the anti- what we want.

Nothing would be more awesome than to find me a pretty girlfriend who I get along with, likes the same things as me, and treats me like a person rather than a sex object because "LOLOL SHE HAS A COCK" If you just want booty call so you can say you banged a tranny, hire a hooker or look elsewhere, please.

>>7295126

Good on ya, and good luck. It's a lot of work but it's worth it in the end. And this type of thing is one of those where patience is a must. Thou shalt suffer for beauty, and some of that suffering is waiting.

>>7295209

Thanks.

I'm not from the US :) and in my country health care and the hormone replacement therapy and stuff are all arranged and great, so that's quite a luxury.

>>7295214

I've become pretty patient over the years, hah :) my problem has made it hard to properly finish projects at the university, I'm taking it easy now with finishing things. For me there is no real rush, besides well, I've always managed to not become very.. man-ish.., but the years of testosterone are taking their toll :P

The biggest wait for me was to get enrolled or whatever you call it for treatment, and now a short wait till the diagnostics start. If all goes well, that should be about 6 month time, and then at least the hormone therapy starts.

>>7295240
well then yay~
its usually good to go through the proper channels but sometimes people dont have the methods or cant wait... so its good to hear someone actually benefiting from it

>>7295214

You say we like you speak for the entire transgender community. I'm looking for something that most people look for so I'm asking if there are clubs or bars that cater to that specifically. You sound like the type who doesn't go out much so maybe I'm asking the wrong person.

>>7295291

Viccy you already know, the proper channels suck. WTB universal health care and/or a not-shitty job.

A note on self medding. ONLY do it if you have done the research to back it up. No taking any freaky meds or insane doses. Be smart if yer gonna do it.

>>7295291

I wouldn't dare doing it myself. This way, I get both proper physical and psychological help and guidance by medical specialists on the subject; couldn't wish for much more :)

>>7295318

Ya know I didn't notice that. I apologize for the use of 'we'. I'm attempting to umbrella term things here. You can find them out there. And no, I don't go out much because I have a shit-tacular job that keeps me chained to my phone and a 50 mile radius around my house. Within that radius there is exactly jack shit to do.

Often times people recommend gay (and/or other alternative lifestyle) bars, but that's a mixed bag. It also depends on what type you are looking for. Some girls stealth and you will never know they're trans or that they're traps until you get their pants off. Some scream it proudly and go out flaunting. I said earlier, we're normal people, there are some that are outgoing and there are some that are reclusive. There is no one specific place to look. Sure there are places that are safer than others, what with all the trans-hate. So if you wanna find one clubbing, my recommendation is to try more 'openminded' bars and clubs. And go from there.

>>7295318
only most guys look for sex, and transgirls arent guys
>>7295323
yea thats what i was trying to say about how the proper channels help you to know if you are trans

>>7294682

Click? Hohoho, nope. I am sure she thinks you're pretty scummy too.

"Man, it's okay man. I'm POLYAMOROUS! PANSEXUAL! It's okay, man. Btw, goddamn chasers and players. Shame on them."

You are as hilarious as you are pathetic and appalling. "Officer, I swear. The boy, he came on to ME! I was minding me own business, hanging out by the high school and boom."

Have any of the traps in this thread known traps with military service, by any chance?

Just curious.

>>7297562

There is some anecdotal evidence on other chans that I have run across with people talking about trapping in the military.

Short version. Wait til you get discharged or retire, or be REAL FUCKING SECRETIVE about it. You'll need a wig too, for obvious reasons.

>>7297646

shitsux, because there's so many different strains put on you by military service, that I can't even see how it'd be possible to trap, beyond just simply crossdressing in the privacy of your own home, if you even have that.

>>7297855

From what I read on the other boards, basically you can only really do it on weekends when yer offduty, or on leave for whatever reason. It's not something you can do really, and you have to think.

They find out and there's gonna trouble, not just from superiors but expect to get shit from your friends and co-workers. Not necessarily in the form of dismissal (Though there is a chance) but at the least you're going to get comments...

The military aren't the most accepting bunch around y'know. I live near Quantico and I always watch myself and act super careful when I have to go on base for work.

ooh, tripfag drama

I want in on this

>>7295126
zomg you're a cute. mones will make you the envy of the trans world, to boot. I'm already jealous

>>7295344
oh just FYI, if you're in Australia, be careful about what doc you get. I've heard major successes and HORRIBLE horrible treatments from aussies who have gotten either incredibly WRONG medications that hurt you more than help. Protip: No matter your country: if you doctor prescribes you birth control or its equivalent, FIND A NEW DOCTOR!! He may say he's got experience working with transpeople, but he's probably just screwed them all over just the same.

Speaking of military traps...I remember hearing a news story, when I was but a wee lass, of someone getting discharged for, or possibly after, trying to get military medical care to cover their SRS and HRT and stuff.

This was mid or early 90's, so not too long after Don't Ask, Don't Tell came into effect.

Anyone have any idea? I've casually searched for the story for a few years, but I can't ever find it.

>>7297890

yay you're a member of the commonwealth

[17:19:21] <+Marie_Onette> BYE LADIES!
[17:19:24] <+Marie_Onette> Off to acquire panties.

bamp for trapvice and trapversation

>>7298635

That was a fun shopping trip.

>>7297890

First robot I've seen that lives in VA. I'm from Richmond, wanna meet in Fredericksburg someday and tear up the town?

>>7298837

Maybe one day, send an email (the one in the more recent posts) and we'll see. I'll weed out the trolls if anyone else decides to send one. Maybe if yer cool and shit, sure thing.

>>7298851

that may have been awkwardly awkward...

That pic is not of OP. Yes, that is Kevin Smith.
Everyone, stop showcasing your newfaggotry.

>>7298873

That's why it's a secondary email to keep my 'real' one safe. And to make sure I don't get either raped or murdered!

Otherwise.. COOL A NEW FRIEND!

>>7298882

ha so i take it you got the message?

>>7298894

Yup, and I responded as well. Awkwardness abound!

>>7298874
well, yeah, because it's of me. read the whole thread, yo

>>7299010

I just wanted to chime in with the general consensus here - you're cute.

>>7299010

As far as your self-esteem issues, or not wanting to go out in girl-mode, is it a phobic thing, or are you worried because of things like facial hair, a masculine voice, posture, gait...?

If that chickdude's still here, why did you change? You looked happy as a dudedude.

>>7299095
It's because despite shitty webcam pics and stuff, i really don't pass for female irl. If it's not my face, then it's my adam's apple. To avoid ridicule and physical harm, I guess I'll just keep pretending to be a boy to the world until i can get enough money to fix my major flaws and become passable.

>>7299051
Just a mask, broski.

>>7297029
really? then who are you? just curious since i'm friends with everyone in the channel excluding lurkers.
>>7297911
no drama, just explaining things as non bias as i can

>>7299222
>Implying masculine body parts are a flaw. Billions of happy and content men beg to differ.

>>7299222

Moar pics, please. Definitely much cute.

>>7299486
This.
Don't you dare saying being male is a flaw, just because you're a little messed up in the head and wish to become some kind of abomination.

>>7286718

Hey! I started hormones in may 2009 :3

>>7299486
uh what girl wants to look like a guy? so yea masculine characteristics on a girl are flaws

ITT: LGBT drama nobody gives a fuck about.
This is not carebear town.

>>7299602
Your huge throbbing cock and testosterone filled balls tell me you're not a girl, bro.

>>7299613
lol not white knighting, just have a problem with the linear thinking that a lot of people seem to display

out of curiousity, if I think girls that look like guys are hot, and vice versa, what does that make me?

>>7299629
"This guy was born male. He is a man"
"YOU ARE SO NARROW MINDED AND INTOLERANT"

>>7299639
you're a guy? im just saying that from a girls PERSONAL perspective, most dont wanna look like a guy. sure there are some who dont care/ like to look masculine while still consider themselves girls, but the majority want completely feminine characteristics

Is there really any reason to come out anymore?

Also "cruising" anyone actually try it?

Recommend lubes for anal play/sex?

Best worst and experiences with partner?

>>7299642
a mtf transexual is born a guy, and nothing will ever change their chromosomes, but their gender IS girl, and they identify as female, so they think as females do

>>7299613
but... taking anti-androgens have killed all of the testosterone in my now tiny and dormant balls, as well as made me lose the ability to get a throbbing cock. I also cannot ejaculate, or impregnate a woman. Am I still a man?

>>7299662
i.e.: There is something terribly wrong with him. Nature obviously intended him to happily stick his cock into holes and that sort of things.
>>7299665
Yes. You just got impotent way earlier than most other guys.

ITT: People that fail to get the distinction between sex and gender.
I'd love to see a rational argument about why someone shouldn't be allowed to select which gender role he wants to fill.
And "It makes me question my own sexuality and therefore makes me afraid" isn't one.

>>7299662
there's also a surprising lot of us born with an intersex disorder, most commonly being born with a penis, but have XX or XXY chromosome patterns. Still rare, but i've met two out of the probably... 50~ transgirls i've talked to before, and that's... mildly interesting

>>7299674
yea, most transexuals will agree its a disease, pretty much ALL of them hate being that way, but they cant change the fact they have GID

lol is that Kevin Smith in the first pic

>>7299678
yea thats true too, forgot about intersex people

>>7299486

I
>Implying a girl should be forced to accept masculine features.

As stated earlier you people need to learn the difference between gender and sex. What's between the ears more important than between the legs, etc.

More to post when I'm not posting from a cellphone....

>>7299693
Not a disease, bro. Birth defect.

>>7299727
meh, semantics
In human beings, "disease" is often used more broadly to refer to any condition that causes pain, dysfunction, distress, *social problems*, and/or death to the person afflicted, or similar problems for those in contact with the person. In this broader sense, it sometimes includes injuries, disabilities, disorders, syndromes, infections, isolated symptoms, deviant behaviors, and atypical variations of structure and function, while in other contexts and for other purposes these may be considered distinguishable categories.

pwnt >:D

>>7299674
if it's any consolation, i'm never going to believe i look like anything other than a man in a dress unless i get a shitton of facial surgeries