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    67 KB Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:36:26 No.7141607  
    I'm a fucking idiot.

    Some time ago I made a thread over here with a question whether should I came out with my agnosticism to my catholic family, considering I'm living in a shithole in the Eastern Europe.

    You guys suggested me I should just keep going to church like everyone until I finally move out from my parents house and become fully independant(HS senior - 18y.o.).

    But I couldn't stand my hipocrisy anymore. I refused today to go to a mass, and well, shitstorm ensued. It was just a prelude, real shitfuckingtornado is going to start when they come back.

    Wat do?

    picture unrelated, but 100 internets to first person to guess who it is.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:38:06 No.7141629
    OP im afraid cant help you
    you should either ask your parents, or ask god for help
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:40:14 No.7141654
    OP if you have to be self-determined you have to go through a narrow passage: you have to bear it.

    The person is Edward Stachura
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:43:33 No.7141691
         File1263739413.jpg-(12 KB, 578x250, internets.jpg)
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    >>7141654
    Indeed, my friend, it's Edward Stachura.
    Here are your internets.
    And yes, I know what I can expect, but any tips? Someone who already had similar outcoming?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:47:36 No.7141734
    good thing i was in born in USSR
    back then and now in Russia religious parents are almost nonexistant
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:47:46 No.7141737
    >100 internets to first person to guess who it is
    >stachura.jpg

    You're a clever man, OP. I am surprised that you somehow managed to get yourself in this clusterfuck of a situation.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:52:56 No.7141790
    >>7141737
    200 internets to you, suprisingly observant anon
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:54:04 No.7141801
    Your only hope is toe tell your family that you had a lapse in reasoning and that you'd like to learn MORE about Catholism. Hopefully, they'll believe you and send you to some Catholic training-camp. You'll finish the class, and pretend that you're devout until the day you move out and you'll once again be eligible for your family's inheritance when they die...

    But you should've just followed our advice in the first place...
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:54:13 No.7141802
    I wonder which shithole that is.

    Anyway, you have to endure the shitstorms. I did that, at first it was unbearable, but now it's cool, sometimes my father calls me a fucking Jew but that's it, they got over it.
    Took them over a year though.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:54:54 No.7141811
    >>7141691
    teeheheheee one hundred internetz :3

    tipps: -no shouting. As soon as someone shouts he gets invisible. Most families don't know basic rules about social interaction, so this will be difficult.
    But: tell them not to shout. They can tell their point, but in a hearable way.
    I usually say: I talk to you, when you calmed down -and go away.

    secondly: don't bring yourself into danger. Dont hit people and dont get hit, things easily escalate.
    Sometimes when someone is beating me, I smile and say: go ahead, just do it, fine! Sometimes its like a reversed psychology and they realise how dumb they act, still it can be dangerous, when someone does it, who is stronger than you.

    You can handle a compromise: saying for a while I won't go to church, but If I feel the need, I will come with you.
    Tell them its not their function to decide for you.

    Basically you have to bear this storm, until they let you go.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:55:15 No.7141817
    Jesus loves you OP. He'll be waiting for you to come back to him. <3
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:55:55 No.7141820
    It is Poland.

    Is it true that EE girls love the darkies?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:57:13 No.7141838
    I'm the same, I just ride it through and go to mass every week just to kept shit from hitting fan. I don't mind that much, I mean its just a worthless hour a week, its not like I listen to the shit or its offends my beliefs. Its just some idiot talking about crap I couldn't give a damn about
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:57:53 No.7141849
    >>7141820

    Yes, they are major sluts aswell
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)09:58:14 No.7141852
    >>7141817
    stop that. He is trying to get away from the over-protective and controling parents who overtake him, you are no help
    If jesus would love him, he would tell you to shut the fuck up.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:01:16 No.7141903
    >>7141849

    I guess that explains why they are dating minorities all over the UK. Any other shit I should know so I don't fall into a trap and date one of them?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:03:05 No.7141927
    >>7141852
    btw. jesus doesn't exist
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:03:39 No.7141935
    >>7141903

    I'm not polish, I only heard that from a polish guy. Generally he just disliked polish women
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:05:11 No.7141962
    >>7141903
    brought up in a xenophobic environment, as soon as they get away from it, they get all horny for black dicks. it's sad.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:05:21 No.7141965
    >>7141849

    Polish women are not slutty at all, compared to different nationalities.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:05:35 No.7141967
    I think I remember you. Told you to keep it to yourself. Pretend it was a mistake, take it back, become the most devout child etc.

    Also whenever you feel you can't handle it anymore, write down everything you see wrong with religion in a book. It'll give you some place to vent it and after you move out you can give it to your parents.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:05:55 No.7141969
    >>7141935

    Generally all EE women. You said you are from that area so I want to know.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:07:44 No.7141988
    >>7141962

    Or Indian/Paki. Shame too. Some of those girls are amazing but if that is who their ex is I'm not going to touch it.

    >>7141965

    I guess it must be a figment of my imagination that stag parties' main destination is Krakow.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:08:41 No.7142000
    >>7141935
    Polish men have a tendency to dislike the women that emigrate to the west. It's very often a strong bitches and whores attitude there.

    Personally I know a girl who left for the UK at age 18 and has been sucking cock right and left, including niggers, so there is some truth to it.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:10:07 No.7142019
    >>7141988

    So, is Poland a backward religious country or one with liberated ethics?
    >> That Guy From That Island Somewhere In The Sea !w4vctBKkRM 01/17/10(Sun)10:10:27 No.7142024
    Same boat as you op, though I haven't exactly "come out" to them, and I honestly don't mind going to mass, It's basically like school really. Is it really so hard to bear? Couldn't you have just waited till you were independant?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:13:46 No.7142058
    >>7142000

    Aight stay clear of Polak girls cuz they hoez.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:19:50 No.7142112
    >>7142019
    It is a religious country. But being a university student I don't really have any trouble getting laid, and that's being a skinny as fuck long-haired dude. So I suppose the younger generation are quite liberated.
    Then there are old women in the buses who at times amaze me with their ability to give me a look of pure malignant hatred.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:22:53 No.7142148
    OP, say you're testing God.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:29:48 No.7142200
    >>7141790
    dat is da joke.jpg
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)10:31:06 No.7142216
    what is more important to you?

    the truth will set you free, OP.
    >> Phantasmagoric !dt9c0uWwc2 01/17/10(Sun)10:57:53 No.7142487
    Well this ones easy. Tell them you've reformed and that they should listen to the new gospel music you downloaded. Put on black metal or Slayer.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:01:33 No.7142527
    have a bong ready. offer to your family.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:08:24 No.7142608
    OP here, I'm still alive.
    It went...badly.
    My dad was using actually logic and reasoning, and everything was going fine, until my mom came with all her psycho-defensive bullshit.
    In the end it all fucked up, my parents, especially my dad are dissapointed. Really, very, much. At the end my dad shed manly tears with the conclusion that there will be noone to pray over his grave.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:09:00 No.7142619
    >>7142527
    >implying atheists are junkies
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:09:59 No.7142632
    >>7142608
    i'd like to know more please elaborate
    >> Holland Bro !GaZtwAtvk. 01/17/10(Sun)11:10:14 No.7142637
    >>7142619
    >implying smoking weed makes you a junkie.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:13:09 No.7142666
    >>7142608
    >At the end my dad shed manly tears with the conclusion that there will be noone to pray over his grave.

    You theists sure are a bunch of depressing people.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:13:40 No.7142670
    >>7142632
    elaborate on what? their reasoning?
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:14:50 No.7142682
    >>7142670
    the whole story.

    what did you end up saying to your parents? how was your dad trying to reason with you?
    >> Phantasmagoric !dt9c0uWwc2 01/17/10(Sun)11:18:26 No.7142717
    >>7142666
    >666

    I lold.

    I once had a grandfather, that, when he found out said that without God we are nothing, and 'God is the air we breathe'. God I hate Eastern Europe.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:22:41 No.7142753
    Tell your parents that while technically you are an agnostic, for all intends and purposes you will call yourself an Atheist and would rather live in an empty room rather than pretending the smoke and mirrors are real.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:24:30 No.7142768
    >>7142682
    my dad was talking about lack of sense of life if there is no god, about some miracles(he donated around 700$ to local church and later buisness(he got his own copmany) moved on while everyone around was struggling for survival, some close-to-death situations), but once my mom joined the conversation they mostly went only about how too smart to talk bullshit like that I am, and that they made mistakes in upbrining me, and that my friends are evil(that's actually lol, all of them are declared catholics, and I absolutely don't mind it).
    I was trying to use reason. That there is no proof that there is God, and that God may actually exist, but Bible and everything is said by priests is all from humans, to humans, who need support.
    I generally feel really bad for them. This last sentence about praying on their graves was sorta...depressing.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:26:03 No.7142786
    >>7142717
    oh, and I forgot about whole line of thinking they were trying to push me into, their grand, grand parents were catholics, ..., they are catholics and I should be too.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:28:57 No.7142817
    Start watching Richard Dawkins video
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:29:37 No.7142821
    unrelated but interesting video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:30:47 No.7142830
    Youre a bitch OP your parents arent shit
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:31:26 No.7142833
    I think it wasn't wise just telling them there's no God and all, I'm from EE too and didn't tell them the whole truth, that I don't believe, just that I won't be attending church from now on. I didn't want to trample their beliefs. It's better to lie in such a situation.
    >> Phantasmagoric !dt9c0uWwc2 01/17/10(Sun)11:33:24 No.7142850
    >>7142786
    The very annoying thing is that I'm born into Orthodox christianity, and you're parents would still consider my religion wrong, I would presume.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:39:02 No.7142894
    Carry two knives, if things escalate, you can feign an attack with the first one, then whip out the second one so fast they can't block it.

    Protip: hold the first knife in your left hand so their right hand will cross over to hold your wrist, thus hiding your second knife-hand.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:39:14 No.7142899
    >>7142768
    Thats not as bad as it could have been. At least your dad attempted to reason his belief with you instead of trying to shove it down your throat like your mom did. I'm betting she'll keep giving you shit about this for a long time. Stand firm OP..
    >> Phantasmagoric !dt9c0uWwc2 01/17/10(Sun)11:42:41 No.7142923
    >>7142850
    *your.

    Goddamnit.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:43:41 No.7142930
    >>7142619
    You do realize the term junkie only applies to heroin addicts right? Junk is slang for heroin. That's like calling a drunk a pothead.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:45:41 No.7142952
    just pretend to believe. most people don't actually believe they just want to be a part of a group that they trust. if you all believe in fairy tales then you're trustworthy.

    you need to continue to be religious because it is the key to social advancement in these countries.

    with the economy shit, just play along, network with people and be well behaved. social connections can land you a job/wife/prestige.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:46:11 No.7142959
    >>7142930

    This just in: language evolves.
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:48:51 No.7142985
    >>7142952
    get your facts straight, even those these countries are religious, being religious was never important in terms of social advancement because of decades of socialism
    >> Anonymous 01/17/10(Sun)11:49:22 No.7142989
    >stachura.jpg
    >100 internets to first person to guess who it is
    intertubes currency inflation



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