Is glen beck's hand firing laser beams at that guy's head or is that guy's head firing laser beams at glen beck?

Soon air shall be replaced by jellow, and we will be the marshmellows, and bill cosby will be our god. So sayeth the good book of betty crocker recipes.

>>6711976
Hey look, it's the mainstream media faking science and confusing average people again.

Global Warming IS happening. Average temperatures are increasing all over the world.

What we don't know for a certainty is what is causing it. It looks very much like its being caused by human pollution, but it could very well still be a natural cycle of some kind. We don't fully understand the systems at work yet.

But anyone trying to tell you it isn't happening is a liar, through and through.

Half of /r9k/ buys into the conspiracy theory garbage, and the other half are intelligent.

>>6712008
Whatever you say, Mr. Gore

if the ice caps are melting away, it's pretty good evidence that the planet is warming up

>>6712008

And what we have here gentlemen is your typical, uneducated left-winged liberal preaching more world destruction at the hands of the evil homosapien. Global climate change is a proven, and re-occuring fact that has, and will continue to happen over the life span of this planet. There is no hard fact evidence that proves humans of any sort are the cause; albeit we do shed our share of pollution, the extent of damage if any has not been proven by current scientific means.

>>6712008
blox
>http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,662092,00.html

Well I guess Der Spiegel and the UNs chief climatologist are liars then huh?

We've been cooling since 1998 when temps hit their highs

Even the UNs IPCC admits that

>>6712039
I see you've put that job as a tour guide to good use, righty.

Old people tricking young people to clean up their mess. We're fucked if climate change is true or not.

There are a bunch of think-tanks, journalists and political campaign groups going around telling people the facts aren't facts. It's an effective way to confuse people, since people tend to trust facts (and those who discover them - scientists).

Undermining trust in scientists has been a masterstroke of opposition PR. Stability for well-established energy companies and industrialists may well have been achieved. The price doesn't matter to them.

The IPCC states that the planet has warmed over the last 300 years and acknowledges that for 280 years of the 300 years, the warming cannot be not attributed to human activity. But the IPCC says the last 20 years of warming is due to human activity CO2 emissions.

Unfortunately, that's wrong... because satellite temperature data which has been proven to be the most reliable and accurate, shows that in the last 10 years the temperature has cooled by 0.5 0f 1 degree, and that there has not been any global warming over the last 15 years, and that in fact, global cooling has occurred over the last 9 years.

I think we're pretty much 100% fucked

>>6712039
God you people are fucking retarded, how many times do you have to be told that this isn't fitting the trend of natural flux?

>>6712120
no one did that to the scientists but themselves paco

and facts are not facts when you destroy the underlying data and then drop numbers you don't like, pick and choose numbers that fit your agenda, mold your results to fit your perspective, then actively work to shut down any alternative points of view from even being spoken

but yeah, that's all the evil media's doing, totally has nothing to do with the actions of the scientists themselves

>>6712126

... But it is. Herpderp?

Even IF human caused climate change turns out to be false (which it probably isn't) isn't reducing carbon emissions and such a good thing anyway?

>>6712126
blox
>God you people are fucking retarded, how many times do you have to be told that this isn't fitting the trend of natural flux?

You can stop trying to tell us it because it's a lie, it's not outside any normal ranges, the only data which shows that is provably altered to fit that perspective and undermined by the past decade of cooling besides

>>6712143
Nature releases insane amounts of more Co2 than humans ever could, it will do nothing.

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>>6712126
HEY.
FUCKING FOCUS, PEOPLE.
FOCUS ON THE TASK AT HAND.

Is Beck firing the laser beams or is the fucker on the right firing laser beams?

>>6712160
The beams are obviously coming from becks hand/torso are, and are moving in shot gun blast like pattern across the aged individual, spraying with him rainbow colored love stuff

>>6712160
Beck is firing the lasers, clearly.

why do why all care about this so much?

>>6712160
Neither, they're graph lines.

>>6712160

What?

That's a middle-aged Luke Skywalker and the Sith Lord..

>>6712177
Because of all the bullshit the world leaders trying to make people believe, it's sketchy as fuck.

picture related to my feelings.

>>6712193
Yet all they seem to do is try to convince the pubic they care and are doing something about it when in reality they are just arguing amongst eachother about bullshit "climate change plans" that will never happen.

>>6712216
Joel Pett is a moron, and since he lives in my town and my local paper is the one who posts all his shit, I've had to watch him my entire life with his pedantry.

It isn't a better world when you destroy the economic structure of the planet and send everyone into poverty to solve a problem that doesn't exist, Joel. You pathetic moron.

God I can't fucking stand him and that's exactly what I do every time I see one of his cartoons.

>>6712143
Yes the carbon is killing ocean life.

I don't think anyone sane disputes that the planet's climate is changing, but it is not caused by the human population, it is caused by things such as the Earth itself and the Sun... And also form other posters the climate has actually been cooling:
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>>6712033
Also the ice caps have started to grow again, which is another sign the planet is cooling.

>>6712226
Hopefully they never do happen. I'll be fucking damned if I'm paying a CARBON TAX to some goddamn third world African country just because a bunch of old senile scientists can't get a couple numbers right.

>>6712216
I tip my hat to you, this is a very good point.

>>6712216
>>6712216

HOW ABOUT THE FACT THAT I DONT WANT TO PAY FOR A FUCKING BULLSHIT PROBLEM THAT DOESN'T EXIST? CAN YOU POOR BASEMENT DWELLERS GET THE CONCEPT OF MONEY THROUGH YOUR HEAD?

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>>6712126
If you didn't want people to get confused by the facts maybe you shouldn't have intentionally lied to warp public perceptions.

If this really is all a huge conspiracy by evil capitalists then you've played right into their hands by being egotistical douches with massive superiority complexes. Congrats, now kill yourselves.

>>6712216
I like how it left out bio fueled engines.

Oh wait, because when 1/3 of the US's agriculture was turned over for bio fuel, world prices of food doubled and now the poor countries we are trying to save from global warming are starving to death faster than burning to death.*

*implying global warming was real, but is not.

>>6712252
no its fucking retarded and the very simple response already posted destroys it utterly

also

Pett is a real cunt

If you ever heard his voice on the radio you'd hate him too

>>6712267
OK, then what about the problem of energy independence? I take it from your right-wingish shouting that you probably hate Muslims and sandniggers. If we invest in alternative fuels, we can stop buying from them and throwing money their way, leading to massive poverty and starvation in the Arab world. Does that sound good to you?

I think it's really dangerous. India and China have LARGE populations, nuclear weapons, and LARGE armies. Ever heard the phrase "society is 3 meals away from anarchy"? Well, anarchy is contagious.

India relies heavily on irrigated crops. So does China. Neither is able to pay massive premiums for feeding their citizens, as so many live near the poverty line already. India specifically, relies heavily for it's crops on irrigation from rivers which are fed from glacial melts. Which are rapidly dissapearing.

China just has a massively quickly dropping water table and has in the last 2 years abandoned a state policy that they were going to attempt to be food self sufficient. They have finally admitted that that will not be possible given their population and arable land/water resources.

It could be world war 3. And I live in Canada, which Gore predicts is the big winner in all this. Look at his maps, which pretty much show northwestern North America getting warmer and wetter. Soon, we might be the next rainforest.

Which will be lucky, as global warming is allowing the mountain pine beetle free reign of the area, a devestating insect plague which used to be checked every year by historically cold winters killing off a lot of the population. So we might need to plant banana trees because we sure as fuck might not have any pine trees left by then.

Drought is ugly. Just look at Darfur.

Is that Glenn Beck affirming his evil nature by using force lightning?

Only the Sith use force lighting.

>>6712294
see
>>6712280
>1/3 of US's agriculture, double food prices world wide, starvation in poor countries, cause: global warming/climate change hoax

>>6712294
every single "energy independance" idea that is VIABLE you leftards shout down

Clean Coal, for instance. So clean it doesn't even fucking emit emissions. You can DRINK IT. But no, because garnering coal means mountaintop removal, can't do that either.

Nuclear energy to reduce need for solid coal and oil factories? might blow up like 3 mile island!

Energy independence is obtainable tommorrow in the US with just natural gas and coal and the oil we can find on our land but we aren't even allowed to go FIND most of it because of environmental regulations

So how's about you get the EPA to stop being maniacs about our energy reserves at home, and then we can have energy independence and we can all forget about the global climate change hysteria and terrorism since we'll have nice, efficient, clean local energy sources to power us for another 250 + years?

While I hate Alex Jones I did find this interview interesting to say the least.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/exclusive-british-peer-copenhagen-summit-has-established-a-world-governm
ent.html

>>6712345
Fucking love Lord Monckton.

>>6712312
Yes and I MIGHT shit a meteor out that will expel itself with so much force that it will literally cruise the entire universe in one vast circle, crashing into Earth several million years from now wiping out all life on the planet as we would know it at that point.

Maybe.

Guys, it's called "Climate Change". So when cap and trade puts the final nail in the US economy over something proven false, we can't blame these liars.
Enjoy losing 2.2 real jobs for every green "job" created.

Sure is [citation needed] ITT.

>>6712371

Also this for the proponents of Climate Change.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stij8sUybx0

The math just doesn't seem to add up.

>>6712372
Please don't, think about the peoples.

ITT: neckbeards accuse each other of being unbelievably retarded fags for believing/not believing in a crackpot conspiracy theory.

Meanwhile, the rest of the world moves on.

>>6712380
Lindzen and Choi.

>>6712421
You miss out one important thing... Obama IS a nigger.

>>6712039

I like how the right accuses the left of being uneducated, but yet the left doesn't base its policies on a 4000 year old book that makes baseless claims of magic being used to create the earth

I hope you know that this is like the whole evolution thing. Scientists come up with overwhelming evidence, morons can't understand it because it takes more than once sentence to explain it, and then always somehow they all seem to find "repressed research" by "underground scientists" that seem to 100 percent conclusively support what they want to hear.

NEXT ON GLENN BECK, WE TAKE DOWN THE GLOBAL WARMING JEW CONSPIRACY ONCE AND FOR ALL. PRETTY MUCH ALL SCIENTISTS AGREE THAT GOBAL WARMING IS MAN MADE, BUT WE HAVE A CREATION SCIENCE TEACHER FROM TOPEKA KANSAS CHRIST THE KING MIDDLE SCHOOL WHO WILL TELL US THE REAL STORY IF WE PAY OFF ALL HIS GAMBLING DEBTS

Now I bet you guys are going to try to tell me that we're going to run out of oil. Fucking sheep.

>>6712438
>everyone who doesn't believe in AGW is a christfag

>>6712438
Glenn Beck likes Jews what are you talking about?

It's liberals who think everything is a jew conspiracy in today's world

>>6712345

i hate him more than you do.

having institutions manage regions of the world to control their people better is nothing new. the world bank, imf and the u.n. are part of global governance. so a world government has already been established, it's just not as powerful as it could be. this whole thing is just another weapon used against you cattle.

>>6712438

More parroting from another indoctrinated fool.

Wait, you mean the sky really isn't falling?

>>6712468

global warming isn't real!

Now go help support the oil cartels, whoops, I mean AMERICAN PATRIOTISM by continuing to buy petroleum based plastic bullshit and SUVS

FUCK THE FUTURE GENERATIONS

SHORT TERM PROFITS SHORT TERM PROFITS SHORTS TERM PROFITS YAAAAAAAARGH

>>6712216
We need an efficient means to manipulate the material world to create a better world (totally unfettered laissez faire global capitalism).

>>6712466

He's already aware of that actually, the reason why I don't like him is his sensationalism, unsubstantiated claims, and sky-is-falling demeanor.

>>6712518
>isn't aware most oil cartels are owned by the british and the danish and arabs and the us just buys from them

>>6712518

Again more parroting, because you're assuming that just because I oppose this fraud, that I am in some way affiliated with oil companies.

I am not, in fact, I am a big proponent of self-sufficient energy sources, and I don't want a big oppressive state trying to force it's arbitrary rules on the entire globe.

>>6712554

buys oil from them, because we use it to manufacture all the bullshit they buy from us

by us I mean the americans that own the factories in mexico and china, not americans as a whole

americans as a whole are fucked

>>6712574

>you're assuming that just because I oppose this fraud, that I am in some way affiliated

The fact that you call it a fraud has already marked you as a complete retard

Just because global warming doesn't affect you living in your moms basement doesn't mean other parts of the world aren't getting completely fucked over

Everything isn't a fraud or conspiracy just because you're too fucking stupid to understand it.

Why are you even on 4chan? Shouldn't you be calling into talk shows on the radio and repeating all the misinformation you learned from youtube videos?

>>6712216

Yeah, a better world of all those folks being taxed for something unfairly.

>>6712547

i think he's a shitty business man. still, i'm not the one posting his stuff on here.

>>6712340
Thank you. I'm so tired of all these environmental assholes shouting how we need energy independence, when they are the very reason why we're not.

>>6712581

I agree with this statement, the United States is gutted.

It's not human caused if it exists at all; hard to tell with the limited data available at this point. However, it can't hurt to move towards sustainable energy and reducing pollution. Just no crazy laws or insane tax increases.

>>6712611

Nice job trying to marginalize me bro.

>>6712611
>hey look at me I have no real argument so I'm going to resort to appeal to emotion, ad hominems, random intellect insults, oh yeah and fear mongering, to boot.

>Everything isn't a fraud or conspiracy just because you're too fucking stupid to understand it.

The only idiot here is you brah. It's an obvious fraud conspiracy because there's a huge profit motivation behind the proponents of the fear mongering combined with emails which show clear collusion to alter facts, admission of destruction of underlying data, and pernicious use of peer pressure to undermine a process that is supposed to insure validity of assertions made.

>>6712216
Lying about it surely will get these things to happen much quicker and totally not backfire. Nope, never happend before.

Nobody would opposes those ideas at all if they where viable on their own.

These threads are hilarious. It's like a bunch of monkeys flinging poo at each other.

Anybody else love to lurk in these threads?

>>6712901
Just leave you butthurt left fag

Climate change?

Let's be honest. I don't fucking give a damn crap unless i am directly and massivley affected.

I only care about myself :)
And that's it.

Oh hey, what a surprise. 4chan is largely populated by uninformed pseudo-intellectual faggots.

there is global warming and we are probably contributing to it, just like we've been fairly certain of for thirty fucking years

Hey, coldest month here for several decades.

Around -25 Celsius degree.

Sure it is global warming.

I love how the butthurt delusioned fags whine around that Copenhagen conference was a big fail, whereas it was clear from the beginning.

I think the outcome is great.

Does it mean countries do nothing for climate? Only fags will believe this.

Countries don't want to be binded and be controlled!
That's about it.

And i love how the 3rd world countries are protesting, wanting more and more money.
Like it would do anything and reach the poor citizen.
Fucking hypocrits.

Obvious hoax.

>>6712901

What's more hilarious is that you think you're above it all, yet somehow not sufficiently above it to prevent you contributing.

Climate change is just religion for leftists.

>>6714507
that shows how much you know about it.

>>6711976
Next time if you want to have people take you seriously then don't post pics from that Conspiracy theory latent show

>>6714358
deny it all you want, it won't go away.
No amount of illegal activities to steal information and then misquote it can stop it..

>>6713028
I hate to break it to you but you sound more butthurt the this guy does
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>>6714207
note you said month. I love how denial fags will cherry pick evidence and then declare the other side debunked.
such hypocrisy is why the Right Wing is so loony

>>6714683
>implying it's the deniers who are faking evidence and lying about it

lolfag

there is no thing called "climate change caused by humans"
however there is a thing called "pollution of natural environment caused by humans"
if Copenhagen lessen second one it was worth of it

ITT: dumbasses who don't understand that this is all a matter of risk calculation, a matter of degree, not absolutes.

Risk calculation: (95% x socioeconomic costs) vs. (0.3% x climate catastrophe).

Yale economist William Norhaus ripped apart the alarmist crap in the Stern Review. Look it up, envirofags.

The only reason this shitty topic gets attention is because scientists don't understand economics and governments fund science that provides rationalization for state interventionism.

>>6714698
it won't though so enjoy that masturbatory fantasy because that's all you're getting out of it

>>6714812
never did shit my pants over copenhagen
I've just pointed the fact

>>6714393
I'm not contributing because I'm not a fucking climatologist. I am an accountant. I am not qualified to comment on ANYTHING about climate models.

And neither are you.

This is why I love reading these threads no matter which side OP is on. Nobody fucking knows what they're talking about and at least I have the humility to say "I don't fucking know."

>>6714772
economist=/=climatologist

>>6712612
You mean applying economic pressures on companies to force expansion of alternative sources of energy is a bad thing?

>>6714863
they both specialize in statistical analysis bro

>>6714938
it is a bad thing in that most of them are moving in that direction anyway but when you start throwing on a shit load of unnecessary fines and taxes all you're doing is driving up the costs of their goods which makes life harder on the normal people who rely on those goods to survive

A better path would be subsidizing research into those technologies and driving the costs of those technologies down so that companies want to invest heavily in them because they are more efficient, more reliable and cheaper

>>6714863
Yes, exactly, and alarmist climatologists don't understand economics and thus don't understand social risk calculation. They don't understand public choice modeling. They don't understand market failure vs. government failure. Yet they make policy arguments despite this ignorance. As such, their side of the debate is just as irrational and idiotic as the conspiracy theorists.

That is why they fail.

>>6714938
Yes, it is. It is dead weight loss. And, of course, government is not magical, it cannot create resources. It is an allocative body, and an incredibly corrupt, inefficient, and often counterproductive one. As even many environmentalists have pointed out, schemes like cap and trade will result in more pollution, not less.

Oh look another conspiracy theory thread, just what we need.

I live in New York City. When I was younger, there would be snow in late October and the leaves would get all orange in mid September. There would always at least be a few feet of snow by December and I'd have a white Christmas.

Now the whole year is just a perpetual rainy season with tepid summers and 60s-70s as late as December. I can't remember the last time we had any snow sticking in December, which doesn't happen until a week or two in late January.

Why is this?

>>6715408
for the same reason that once about every half century the weather pattern which brings rain and winds to the Mid West shifts far south and takes all that rain through Mexico instead, which was the weather pattern responsible for creating the Dust Bowl in conjunction with people over tilling the soil hoping for rain and never receiving it because of the shift

Weather patterns have cycles and even shift positions over time

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why do you fags bother? nothing will change from this thread one way or the other. and stupid people will continue to lead the debate in real life from both sides while your satirical and well cogent points will be lost in the shuffle of new posts. enjoy.