Too much work with little to no payoff. Why would we bother?

Yes, but we tend to be as shy as you, so we're never going to meet ;_;

>>6587668

>little to no payoff.

In terms of what? Typical vapid whore wants everything served to her on a silver platter or it's just not good enough. Besides, you're on /r9k/ too so you're probably fat. Beggars can't be choosers.

10/10 if trolling.

They'll flock to you if you feign the confidence and happiness. Then they'll actually try to make you happy. but it won't work because girls are just gonna nag and not let you do what you enjoy.

You're lying to yourself if you think there really is, trust me on this. Unless you're attractive and have some of those traits, it'll work, otherwise, enjoy your hand for the rest of your life.

Most girls i know including myself want a firm hand, that takes someone outgoing yet considerate enough to not make us feel scared and vulnerable
the other factor is self awkward shut ins tend to be clingy and cause drama, you guys need to learn how to take a break up.

Shy girls like loud confident obnoxious guys. No exceptions.

>>6587685
I would like her even more if she were shy too. But what about through online dating sites? Isn't that were people like up can meet?

I know what you are going through OP, girls always ignore the quiet, non-attractive, ones.

Shit sucks, you keep waiting or something to happen but nothing ever does.

Every once and awhile a girl gets the courage to talk to me though, but then I have a panic attack and blow the whole thing. God I suck...

>>6587767

Breakups I could learn to deal with, hell, I have been getting ignored or put down my whole life.

Now getting together, that part scares the shit out of me.

SUP HELLO YES.
As long as they're not creepy.

>>6588997
>>6588997

you have a problem op....

>>6588997
>as long as they are not creepy
ok, im out

i want him to be my slave so he never sees how horrible i am. he will never want to leave me or cheat on me

>>6588997
How do I be cute and indearing not creepy, and please don't say be attractive.

semi-fat artfag girls.
every 4chan girl/girlfriend that ever was.

>>6589087

If you need to ask, there's no point.

>>6589142
Yes there is. There's always the chance someone has the golden tip for someone else to recognize a flaw in their way of presenting themselves, which might make them more succesful due to being less creepy :D

>>6589087
Don't constanltly compliment girls randomly. Don't use ":3" faces. Don't insult yourself. It's pretty easy.

>>6589220
But I like those faces :3

As a shy, nerdy awkward guy I can say that the answer is yes. My first girlfriend (who I met when I was 18) who happened to also be my first kiss etc, just kinda sat down in my lap at a party. I didn't have to do anything. Felt good, man.

I'm not extremely good looking but I know how to dress and I know how to make people laugh. That's all it really takes, seriously. Just don't be an autistic faggot and people will like you.

>>6589231
They don't work if you're fat or unattractive. Maybe it's just me. I fucking hate those faces.

Pretty much, no.

It's been said before, but I'll map out the definitive list for ya, OP. There ARE girls that like a class of guy other than the fratboy-douche stereotype. However, when they use buzzwords like "shy" and "nerdy" and "caring", they mean this:

- Owns either only clothes bearing some sort of Nintendo/retro video game motif from Hot Topic, or wherever the hell hipsters get their flannel and scarves.
- Thick framed, non-prescription glasses, a blown-out and over-the-eye haircut, skinny jeans, and an iPod full of obscure no-name bands they love to brag about.
- Very thin, feminine features. Can't be ugly at all. If you're ugly, you're just creepy no matter what.

If you're not that kind of person (We in America call them "hipster trash"), you're out of luck. If you delve any deeper into "nerdiness", such as actually playing videogames, reading decent literature, or having a real hobby, that is TOO nerdy, and you're officially a loser.

So yeah. Short answer is: No.

>>6589231
Women love the :3 face also. You just need to find the right type of woman. If you find someone who doesn't find :3 cute, cut contact.

>>6589270
IT'S AN AWFUL SMILEY. UHGFFF.

>>6589264
The woman you're describing is also hipster trash.

>>6589286
I'M SORRY, TOO CUTE FOR YOU UGUU~ :3

if you're the quiet, confident type then yes

if you're just quiet then unlikely

>>6589289
I know.

It's apparent that you've never been to NYC, because that's all there is here. Thousands and thousands of hipsters.

>>6587699
Would you date a fat and ugly girl just to try and make her loose weight and become pretty, when you could have a good looking girl right away?

I get so turned on by shy nerdy inexperienced but cute guys. Well used to anyway.. I'm taken now.
Because I actually took ones virginity by getting him really really drunk practically raping him (he was 20 at the time and so quiet that he rarely formed a whole sentence).
We've been together for years now :3 I've gotten more introvert and his more outgoing. Everything has balanced out and life's perfect.

>>6589264
>>huurr,
I said firm yet considerate you douche. not a giant asshole.

>>6589302
Sorry, I haven't. I've seen hipsters here and there, mostly when I went to high school. Up here in Nova Scotia, they're really not all that prevalent.

I like guys who are shy, nerdy and awkward. But they don't like me probably because I'm a nigglet ;___;. And when I do go out with the shy nerdy guy, they always turn out to be jerks, the most meanest men I have ever dated where the shy nerd guys.

low self esteem in a partner is never good because they either need constant validation or they're easy to convince to do stuff. might be good for you, but if they're around someone they don't know too well, it'd be easy to pressure them into doing something unsavory.

shy also gets annoying after awhile. after you yourself get out of your shy phase (if you went through one), socialization becomes fun and easy and it's annoying if you're attached to someone shy that just doesn't seem to get how to interact with people.

>>6589292
NO. NO! FUCK YOU. D:<

HEY IDIOTS I KNOW THIS MIGHT SEEM LIKE A FUCKING INSANE IDEA BUT HAVE YOU EVER THOUGHT ABOUT WORKING ON YOUR OWN INSECURITIES AND MAKING YOURSELF MORE CONFIDENT?

PROTIP WOMEN CANT TELL THAT YOU MIGHT BE A DECENT HUMAN BEING AND INVESTING ALL THAT TIME AND EFFORT INTO A LOSER THAT MIGHT NOT PAY OFF ISNT A VERY SOUND INVESTMENT

>>6589264

You're underestimating how far personality goes. It's hard if you're UGLY UGLY but I have one friend in particular who stands out. He's a country boy, none that attractive, and has like 0 fashion sense. But he's a damn chill guy, hard worker, and has that natural confidence you can just tell some people have. He has no problem with women. You don't NEED to dress well/be a prettyboy to get women, just be confident in who you are.

Shortly, this means
1) no staring down as you walk
2) no avoiding eye contact with people you talk to. Don't stare directly into their eyes, but don't just stare at their feet while you talk.
3) give a firm handshake to people you meet. No one wants to hang with a dude who gives weak handshakes. (This also applies doubly for job interviews)

As for where to buy "hipster" clothing, the standard /fa/ advice would be Urban Outfitters, H&M, and possibly american apparel. Thrift shops carry some decent shit now and then too, and it's dirt cheap.

>>6589318

nigglet girl on 4chan

lol

>>6587767
>>Most girls...want a firm hand
See, what the hell does that even mean? When I say "I dunno, what do you wanna do for lunch?" I'm being limp-wristed and I get rejected, but when I say "BITCH MAKE ME A SAMMICH!" I'm being an asshole and I get rejected. MAKE UP YOUR GODDAMN MIND.

>>6589324

lol handshakes really that important to you? When someone offers me one I just stick my hand out and have them do the grabbing and the shaking while my arm + hand remain limp

I used to be shy and nerdy. Then I just snapped and went cold and jerky. Not like the whole "be an ass, get the girl" type, just a "Why the fuck should I give a shit about you?" type. The kind that is putting off on purpose. I have confidence but at the same time show that I have no confidence in the person talking to me. It's very offputting and keeps the ladies away better than any nerdy shy type. I promise. Makes aqcuiring money so much easier.

>>6589335
>>6589335

"Hey do you wanna go to such and such place for lunch?"

Stop being a pussy and letting her decide everything for you. Take hold of the reigns bro.

>>6589335

Maybe because you're just going from one extreme to the other? Tell her where you're going for the evening, but don't be all "BITCH MAKE ME A SAMMICH'. That shit doesn't actually work.

>>6589316
Because there's a difference. Seriously, if I had a nickel for every whore from highschool who's now in some sort of abusive relationship with those fratboy cunts, I would buy a god mansion.

>>6587767
>when a shy guy gets broken up with and tries to win you back he's clingy
>when a macho extrovert gets broken up with and tries to win you back he's adamant and persistent and confident

>>6589347

Obviously if you're a bro i'm not gonna just stop hanging out with you because you give a weak handshake, but it's just something all men should learn to do.

But seriously, as far as job interviews go, give a damn firm handshake. It actually does make you look better to your employer.

By the way, rule of thumb:

If a girl like shy, awkward, nerdy guys, because she is shy, awkward, and nerdy herself, there is always, ALWAYS some sort of mental disorder involved. Severity and diagnosis differ from person to person, but it's like, the law or something.

Nerd chicks are ALWAYS crazy.

>>6589323
BACKING THAT.

ALSO, IF YOU'RE TOO FUCKING LAZY TO EVEN TRY TO IMPROVE YOURSELF AND INSTEAD BAW ABOUT WANTING WOMEN WHO ARE PERFECT FOR YOU, EVER CONSIDER NO ONE WANTS TO BE INVOLVED WITH SOMEONE SO FUCKING HORRIBLE THEY WON'T EVEN TRY TO IMPROVE THEIRSELVES FOR THE BETTER? OH NO IT'S NOT MY FAULT IM FAT, WOMEN HATE FATTIES DONT THEY? NO, THEY HATE LAZY SLOBS.

OH NO, I CAN'T TALK TO A WOMAN I'M TOO SHY WHY WON'T THEY HAVE SEX WITH ME?
TRY BEING MORE EXTROVERTED, TRY TRYING YOU FUCKING IDIOTS. AND STOP OBSESSING OVER SEX, OBJECTIFYING WOMEN WILL GET YOU NO WHERE.

IT'S NOT YOUR LOOKS THAT PEOPLE HATE, IT'S YOUR FUCKING ATTITUDE.

>>6589347
>>6589347

Handshakes are important in the real world.

Good luck getting a good job with that limp handshake kiddo

>>6589388
Baw I am broken goods then, if I like shy awkward guys?

>>6587699
>>6587699
>>6587699

No payoff as in she has to do all the work just to get a skinny wrist loser like you to talk in public. It doesn't help that YOU have the entitlement issues (WHY DON'T GIRLS COME UP TO ME AND INITIATE CONVERSATIONS THEN ASK ME ON A DATE THEN DO ALL THE WORK AND WAHAAAAAAAA) and are probably ugly.

>>6589347
>>6589347
>>6589347
>>6589347
>>6589347

Handshakes are a symbol for your character. A weak handshake indicates, timidness, weakness, etc...

Christ, r9k, sometimes you fucking don't think at all.

>>6589388
nerd chick here,
no scientific data, but I would hypothesis that this is at least partially accurate, if you decide cultural pressures are 'normal'

>>6589349
I too have done this. It is the best way to live.

i think that this is a bump

>>6589409
Holy quotes batman.

>>6589402
>>6589402


Two shy, socially anxious people dont mix well. Common sense can help you figure that out if you weren't lacking.

side note WHY THE FUCK DOES EVERYONE CALL IT AWKWARD? WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT EVEN MEAN? Are they talking about social anxeity? because thats a very bad quality. Or are they just idiots?

>>6589416
A REAL NERD WOULD SAY HYPOTHESIZE RATHER THAN HYPOTHESIS
GET OUUUT

You know what I find funny?

The people who think everyone who is alone has "entitlement issues", and expects the world to be delivered to them. But that's not the funny part. The funny part is the people who give out the "manly" advice, about why you fail and are lonely. It's almost as if they somehow think they have the world any more figured out than anyone else.

PROTIP: Just because you've got a fat, ugly girlfriend, doesn't mean you're intelligent enough to give anyone advice on how not to fail.

I thought my first crush (first love, maybe?) was like that during the first few months I knew him (and consequently had a crush on him), but it turned out he wasn't at all. I still care deeply for him, but I wish he hadn't become obnoxious. Oh well.

So, yes, I would date a guy like that, and I would try to boost their self-esteem and make them happier.

>>6589416
>>6589416

This is not your thesis why dont you speak like a real person instead of a pseudo-intellectual wannabe

>>6589464
Seriously man, I can't help but feel pissed off every time you say anything, and not because of your content.

Do you have some kind of disorder that forces you to quote someone multiple times? I can point out every post you've done.

>>6589452
>>6589452

>implies he has it more figured out then the people he says thinks they have it all figured out

ironicblocs

>>6589464
>>implying psuedointellecualism cant be a facet of mine and many other personalities, especialy on fourchan
blame this guy :3

>>6589456


He just finally came out of his shell and showed you his true colors because it was only after a few months that he felt confident enough to do so. His true colors just happened to be obnoxiousness I guess.

>>6587661
you're asking for a mother to give you birth
i'm not blaming, just pointing.
if you see it and admit it you'll go farther than if you hide it from yourself.

>>6589452
>>6589452

Oh, shut the fuck up.

Nerds come in here and type shit like "Why won't girls hang out with me even though I'm shy and ugly" ALL the time. These people clearly have entitlement issues. You're just butthurt and are lashing out with the only weapon you have left (LOL YOUR GF IS FAT HAHA).

>>6589474
>>6589474

NO MY IDENTITY HAS BEEN DISCOVERED.

And no you cant point out every post i've done.

Props on the keen eye though. I'll have to stop that shit.

>>6589452

No one thinks EVERYONE that is alone has entitlement issues, it's just plain to see from the average ronery post on r9k that you all expect women to just do all the work towards getting in a relationship. I can see it when people post about how this ain't the 1800's and gender roles have changed, blah blah blah therefore girls should ask ME out.

Not saying that it's stupid to have a girl initiate contact, but if you're expecting her to do ALL the steps and you just sit along for the ride, what the fuck kind of boyfriend do you think you'd make? I know we're not in caveman times but girls still want a guy who makes them feel safe and secure. He doesn't have to be a stupid muscle-bound jock, but just don't be a total pussy.

And what about if my girlfriend's attractive? Then do I know more about life than you?

>>6589402
Without knowing your character and anything about you, I'd have to say yes. No, I don't know specifically what is wrong with you, but there's always something.

Not that it's bad, because I don't think I could ever really have a relationship without the mental issues, but I'm trying to cut back on the extreme ones, because they just make things too complicated.

>>6589416
>hypothesize*
I think you have a frat gangbang to attend?

>>6589433
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. For example, I have literally 0 self esteem. Like, absolutely none. My girlfriend is pretty much the same way. Both of us have been thoroughly shit on in our lives to the point where we can never really be fully accepting of anyone. Yet that leads us to constantly remind eachother why we're in love, and it lets us know that we're pretty much the same exact person, so we can relate to one another.

Yes, extreme conflicting disorders can be a nasty combination, but in some cases, they work, sort of.

>>6589488
I guess so. He had always shown some signs of being obnoxious, but it was always tolerable. It just got worse in recent months. I do earnestly wish him the best and want him to be happy, though, even if he has hurt me. I don't like holding grudges.

>>6589493
>>6589518

Entitlementmind

entitielementbloxxnerdswhywontsheaskmeout?

>>6587767
Clingy? Not at all. If someone broke up with me I wouldn't even get angry or anything. hey, it's her decision after all. Just say my good-bye and be on my way. Where the hell is this stereotype coming from?

>>6589518
Well, YOU personally, as a wanna-be-hipster tool (yes, I say you are TRYING to conform to a social circle, because you think putting up that kind of image makes you superior, since by context, they are more social and trendy than an average 4channer, yet you fail horribly at it, and simply come off as trying far to hard, and not actually succeeding in being the person you are pretending to be) don't actually know anything about life, regardless of situation.

>>6589388
>>6589388
>>6589388
This, a thousand times this. I've completely given up on "nerdy" girls because of this. They all unleashed warp 9 crazy on me. The girl I'm with now hates video games and tolerates me playing them in my spare time since i play competitively and she understands that but she's completely sane and dear god it's lovely. No mindgames, no bi-polar shit, nothing, everything is completely reasonable.

tl;dr: Never going back to "nerdy" girls.

>>6589556
>>6589556

So you admit your only arguments are strawmans.

Cool stuff.

>>6589533
Pssst. That's what we call a troll. In this case, defined as "someone pretending to be a female, and then posting a clear insult to all the people in this thread who fit OP's description/situation, and then stating why the opposite is more desirable".

>>6589556

You sure know an awful lot about me through my posts on 4chan. You some kinda psychologist?

>help bring him out of his shell and make him more confident and happy?
Why would I want to change the thing that I like about him?

>>6589570
How is that a strawman-argument? I'm not building a false image of his beliefs just to knock them down, I'm actually targeting him as a person. If anything, that would be Ad Hominem, but it's justified in this case, because I legitimately hate him as an individual.

Shyness is a bitch. My problem is not so much shyness, as having nothing to say. I am not good at talking to people I don't know well, and sadly, this prevents me from getting to know ANYBODY. As a result every time I talk to somebody there is that long, awkward silence that never seems to go away.

OP, we have to work on shit like this. Sometimes you just have to say "fuck it" and blurt out the dumbest shit that comes to your mind. I know this one guy who by all accounts and purposes is insane, he is a 6 foot tall Jamaican who either has schizophrenia or ADD because he is always doing something, like talking to himself or hanging upside down from a pullup bar or something. Sure, he is weird as hell. But he is the most likable person I have ever met, people love that crazy Jamaican bastard. So, take a cue from that guy. Just jump out into the shit regardless of what happens, because looking like a crazy jackass is preferable to an awkward silence. Trust me on that.

I've been with a few girls like this, and they all turned out to be weird as fuck or basically bipolar. At this point I couldn't care less whether a girl has the same interests as me or seems unique, I'm not as shy anymore, and I'll only ever date normal-seeming girls.

>>6589533
>>6589577
not a troll, its true where i live, and I've seen no shortage of this kind of behavior no matter where i go. Ironicaly, theres probably even more than i see because my reaction to that kind of crap is to ignore it.

>>6589597

Haters gon' hate.

haterbloxnerdlol

LOOK, I'LL GIVE YOU GUYS THE STRAIGHT FACTS, IT'S UP TO YOU WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANNA BELIEVE ME.

BEING SHY AND NERDY AND ALL THAT SHIT IS FUCKING FINE. BARRING A HIDEOUSLY MALFORMED FACE/BODY (WHICH I GAURANTEE MOST OF YOU DON'T HAVE) YOU CAN GET PLENTY OF FEMALE ATTENTION IF:

-YOU DRESS WELL. THIS IS IMPORTANT. DON'T LOOK LIKE A FUCKING BUM. WEAR CLOTHES THAT FIT. ALSO TRY TO KEEP NOVELTY TEES TO A MINIMUM.
-YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR. IT'S NOT HARD TO MAKE PEOPLE LAUGH. DANE COOK CAN DO IT, SO CAN YOU.
-YOU AREN'T BITTER. BITTERNESS WILL KILL ANY CHANCE OF YOU FINDING YOUR WAIFU BECAUSE YOU'LL BE TOO BUSY HATING EVERYTHING AND BEING A JACKASS TO MEET HER. GET OVER YOURSELF. THIS IS THE HARDEST PART.

I know a guy who is very shut and very nerdy.

He got a girlfriend a week ago, good on him.

So yes, however rare, it does happen.

>>6587661
Misaki does not exist. Or if she does, chances are she will not meet you ever. Though she may walk over your grave once as she goes to meet up with her boyfriend.

>>6589613

I hear you, bro. The only girl who has ever shown any sort of real interest in me was this fat, insecure girl who sat behind me in chemistry. It was the most fucking awkward year of my life. I did not go out with her for a number of reasons, and shockingly, most of them had nothing to do with the fact that she was a whale(I will admit I am shallow and have no right to be, because I am sure as fuck not attractive.)

The girl was insanely insecure, and at times let slip things about downing a bunch of painkillers the night before(she quickly retracted and said it was an "accident"..bullshit). And when she wasn't like that she was talking about how much her family hated her. Also, she loved twilight...speaks for itself.

Her looks aside, why I did not want to go out with this girl should be pretty obvious. And so, a ronery virgin I remain.

OP, don't be a fat chick. Really.

>>6589601
im a version of that jamaican guy, and trust me you dont want to be someone that nobody takes seriously. attitude isnt the only problem, even if you manage to push through the wall and become social you still need to have something to talk about. look at the jokes that your 'crazy' friends make vs. your 'funny' friends, and you'll see that one of them is funny because he's lol random and the other is because he's witty and charming.

in other words, welcome home, to /r9k/.

>>6589665
heres a strait factual bit of advice for you,
Get the fuck off cruise control or learn how to steer

>>6589710
>strait

>>6589708

I think you misunderstand me. I am not saying be a crazy dumbass, I am saying be yourself. The crazy Jamaican guy, as weird as he is, DOES act like he wants to regardless of what other people think. That is what I mean, stop worrying what other people are going to think about you if you say something or do something. Just suck it up and charge headlong into this shit. Sitting around and waiting for something to happen never does anything, I probably know that better then anybody. My life is a meaningless waste of time because of that. But on those rare occasions when I do act like the crazy Jamaican and just run my mouth, me and everybody around me is a lot happier. So I guess that speaks for itself.

First, getting a girlfriend was all about the pussssy. After getting rejected so many times and becoming ronery virgin I just wanted a relationship. Someone who will accept me for who I am and spend her time with and someone who I can just generally have fun with.

Nowadays I don't even want that. Now I really dont even care about relationships or sex or anything. Now it's all about the game. Asking chicks out just to see if she will say yes. But It's like a video game boss that I can't get past even with cheat codes. Every time I ask a girl out now Im not even thinking about dating her. I just want to see if she'll say yes and prove to myself that I CAN get a girl. But it always ends in rejection.

Don't let these faggots tell you all you have to do is go out and ask. Its not that simple, you will get hurt. Unless you manage to figure out the boss's weakspot.

OP, I hate to tell you this, but your life will never be like the "train man" story. Unless of course you actually manage to stop somebody from being raped.

The internet can maybe give you some inspiring quotes, but the only person who is ever going to give you any sort of happiness is yourself. You need to stop worrying. Even the biggest loser on the planet like me does not need much to be happy. Fuck, I have never had a girlfriend in my 21 years of existence and is things keep going the way they are I never will. The world has been shitting on me from day one, but still, I don't need much to be happy. Just some booze and somebody to talk to. And both of those things are easy to find no matter where you go.

Self esteem is useless, just fuck it all and go with the flow, bro.

>>6589753

On the rare occasion that I do act like the jamaican guy I just make an ass out of myself and it ends in shame

cockblock
>>6589783
You keep objectifying women, stop doing that. You're only associating with women because they're the opposite gender, not because you're genuinely interested in even having a friend let alone a lover. Yet you wonder why people don't want to date you.

>>6589800

You see, that's the thing. Stop thinking about it like that.

Listen to me on this, most of the things we do in our lives are asinine. People ALWAYS act like fucking morons. So being shamed of something that everybody has done at some point makes no sense. Everybody on earth has told a bad joke or has been stared at for no reason. Whatever, dont dwell on it. When it comes down to it none of that shit matters and they wont remember in five minutes anyway.

This might be going off into a weird direction, but look at gay pride parades. Those people are the creepiest fucking people on earth, and people always look at them in horror. But you can be sure those fags are loving every minute of it.

>>6587661

No, its a lie. When girls say they like nerdy guys they're usually referring to dickheads like Kevin Pereira. Women don't like actual nerds especially ones with low self esteem.

I know from experience. You might find a few but they're most likely shy and nerdy with low self esteem themselves.

>>6587661
Some girls will flirt with/lead on guys like that because it makes them feel really sexy. "Oh look at the poor nerd who thinks I'm sooooo out of his league."

Women just want your attention, not your dick. And they don't want to make you happy either.

>>6589851
Fuck you a thousand times over you fucking idiot.

What's wrong with girls being shy and nerdy with low self-esteem, huh? That not good enough for you? You think you deserve better because you're a shy and nerdy GUY with low self-esteem? You're the real fucking deal, you punk.

>>6589851

Old co-worker of me was a legit nerd. Vidya-related tattoos and everything. He wasn't horrible looking but wasn't a male model either. Still had a girlfriend.

CONFIDENCE.

>>6589872

Sure is putting words in my mouth...

>>6589872
It's a pain in the ass to be with anyone with low self esteem (regardless of gender). That is of course unless you're both in the same boat. Confident people don't want to deal with other peoples' baggage.

OP, there is somebody out there for everybody. Even chris chan has some fat autistic honey for him somwhere in this world.

The secret is actually talking to people. You do not even need to get into a long drawn out conversation, just make a joke or something. If she laughs you made a good impression.

Here is a useless story from my life.

Last summer I went to Bermuda. Now, I am not an attractive guy, lets just leave it at that. But if you have ever been to horseshoe bay, there are all these rock platforms sticking out of the water. Anyway, me and my cousin where swimming along and we get to one of those rocks. And on top of it was sitting what must have been the most beautiful girl I have ever seen, a fucking goddess. I am not exaggerating. Well, in short, I told a stupid joke, she smiled laughed and waved, and then I went on my way. I felt like the fucking king of the world.

Take pride in dumb moments like that. You'll be happier.

Just be yourself, but work up the confidence to initiate conversation and maintain it. That's all it is.

It's not a matter of changing your personality, guys. You wouldn't want a girl who wants you because they think you're someone else. You just have to train yourself to convey your personality in a friendly, caring, confident light. If you can do this, you'll have no problem finding girls.

How to build self-esteem and confidence?
1. Find little challenges throughout the day to practice on. Talk to a stranger. Talk to someone in class. Just to talk to SOMEONE. It probably helps if they're someone you know you'll never have to see again.
2. When it's done, see what you did right, and what you did wrong. Make a note of these things for the future.
3. Repeat steps 1 and 2 on a consistent basis.
4. As time progresses, the confidence and self-esteem will come. It really is just practice.

This is exactly what I've done, and it's made a huge difference in my life. You just have to motivate yourself to get out of your comfort zone and get into the world. You have to make shit happen; don't expect anyone else do it for you.

>>6589323
protip for you, caps-loser : i'm not an object therefore i dontmake myself into things
i'm not an investment either
ever heard about soul?
sometimes outgoing guys envy shy ones because they know the shy guy has depth.
keep building your personality up, persona=mask=nothing.

>>6589388
>>6589416
>>6589402
>>6589562

All girls I know that are gamers or nerds have had issues. My last girlfriend was sexually molested by her brother as a child and it's had an impact on her growing up. She cheats and lies and just can't stay committed. Combined with my shyness and passiveness, it was a terrible combination.

So exactly how do you guys define nerdy chicks? Does she have to be socially awkward? Low self esteem? Plain? Chubby? Play video games? Like anime? What's the actual criteria?

>>6590104

Likes video games, anime, computers, science, or math. That's what I would define it as.

>>6590104
Video games/anime/books.

>>6590104

most women think its like "HEHEHEH I PLAY VIDYA GAMES AND WATCH ANIME IM SO NERDY"

but to me nerdy just means intelligent and interested in science

>>6590104

Somebody who is actually intelligent and not a ragin whore who speaks like one of the people from MTV. You know, "AND THEN I WAS LIKE THIS AND HE WAS LIKE THAT AND SHE WAS LIKE "WHAT?" AND THEN I WAS LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE"

yo is dis nigga fo reel??

>>6590210

What are you doing out of your cage?

>>6590151
>>6590168
There are women out there like this that are both beautiful and don't have self esteem issues, you know. Rare, but they exist.

>>6589875
>Vidya-related tattoos
That's pretty hipster nerd, brah.

any of you ronery virginfags tried alchohol?

im pretty socially awkward, but when i drink it completely goes away and i make all sorts of friends. and after that its easy, because when you're both sober again they come up and WANT to talk to you, and when somebody wants to talk to you its hard to be too nervous.

>>6590314

He was no hipster. He'd spend a lot of time during the less busy hours (worked at a paintball field) talking to one of the owners about tech stuff (owner worked for IBM before starting up a field). 99% of it went over my head so I can just assume it was legit nerd.

would you want a partner who is constantly feeling sorry for themselves, won't stand up for you, is quiet and cannot seem to enjoy group activities? Is that the person YOU'D wanna be with? Imagine how a girl would feel having to deal with your faggotry. it takes time. Group therapy worked for me.

>>6589592
no he has just lurked moar and therefore knows a hipster cunt newfag when he sees one.

Plus you're a tripfag. That pretty much says it all.

Nigger.

>>6590335

I know what you mean. Honestly though, booze does not really "do" anything for me, really. In fact, I do not think I have ever gotten really drunk. It is more like a comfort thing, for some weird reason. I am kind of like that Indian guy on "the big bang theory" except I am not actually wasted.

>>6590400

I love when people assume I'm a newfag.

Been here since mid '06. Not trying to start some kind of pissing contest, just letting you know there's no newfag here.

>>6590462
newfag is a state of mind, newfag.

Also you're a fucking tripfag cunt.

>>6590104
shy as in doesn't talk to anyone but me; enjoys and pracices a cool subject on her own, including cooking if she's into that, which she should

im such a shy faggot that ive turned down girls to go play video games on friday nights alone. girls scare the shit out of me and give me panic attacks