because if a girl you don't know is talking to you then obviously she does need that

>>6450642
and subconsciously everybody thinks everybody else should be just like them

>>6450635

Most girls are more social than guys, thus they prefer it if you're social too. If you can find a stable, introverted girl, it should even things out.

>>6450635
>not everyone needs the validation and constant attention of other people to be happy

Women do.

>>6450651
>If you can find a stable, introverted girl, it should even things out.
>stable
>girl
Yeah, good fucking luck with that.

>>6450662
Good thing they're not everyone, then, whew

Yet

So, what you guys are implying is that it is near impossible to be in a healthy relationship with a female unless you have lot's of friends?

>>6450691
No.
bonloxas

>>6450696

that sucks. really.

If that's really the case, then why is it that all the programs focused on helping guys get women (PUA shit, etc) hardly mentions getting friends?

Women see guys as a source of new social connections. If a guy has lots of friends the girl is attracted to the possibility of these people becoming her friends as well.

If you don't have friend then you need something else to offer(money, looks, large penis, etc)

>>6450728

...but...i have those :(

>>6450759
Then just go to a club in a expensive suit and buy expensive shit and you'll have whores all over you. You don't even need to talk.

You're not keeping your loner tendencies secret enough. They'll never accept that you just want to be alone most of the time but still enjoy friends, and they will constantly try to make you more social. Women don't understand the concept of independence, to them independence means being more free to interact with people in more ways, rather than self-sufficiency.

Women are very social, even introverted ones most of the time.

Having a lot of friends can help almost always help a relationship. It shows that you are well liked and in high status, which to them means they'll also raise in status.

>>6450918

This girl just called me, asking what I was up to, I told her I was busy and I'd call her back. about 2 hours lter, i text her, and she asks what im up to now, and i said just watching tv, and she called me a bum. i asked if she had a problem with tv, and she said "you're lonely". I said I was not, and she asked "then who are you with?"

Now she hasn't texted me back , even though shes been trying to get a hold of me non-stop for like 3 days.

being alone != lonely

>>6450635

I'd hang out with you and not pity you. I don't really have any friends either as I prefer to hang out by myself. Most other girls are just dumb bitches. Sorry to hear about this OP. Hope you find someone.

>>6450979
wtf, "you're lonely" meant she wanted to come over you idiot

>>6450635

So, don't you ever feel lonely?

If not, then you are a female, because female's can not feel loneliness.

>>6451094

...nuh uh....


forrealniggablox

>>6451094

dude, you were 100%, not that I need to tell you that.

i replied back with "Well if you think i'm so lonely, why don't you come over and change that?". She said "Lol i thought you were mad at me?" and I said "yeah, I want to be mad at you from the comfort of my own couch" and she replied "haha I think you just want me to come over ;)"

how do I learn to see things that way, man? please teach me.

>>6451325
You're stuck in your downtrodden beta-male mindset where you think of everything in a negative way. You need to think much more highly of yourself. Find self-righteousness in yourself and convince yourself that you are a god.

Once you start to do that, you'll start to take things like this as "How does this imply that this bitch wants my dick?" rather than "How is this girl trying to make fun of me?"

Your backwards mindset just pushes you farther into a hole that strengthens your negativity with often false rejection, which then can lead to real rejection.

>>6451495

how do I start this transition?

>>6451600
smile. all the time. I'm not even kidding. I was a loser-neckbeard type (actually i am kind of attractive so I'd get pussy at bars but that was just from drunk sluts who mistook my blunt social retardation and loud drunkness for being a bad ass) who had no social life outside of work or the bars i haunted.

then i started smiling. made sure to get rid of the "hawk eyes" as my girlfriend calls them now. apparently i used to scowl or have a creepy blank face.

it'll feel weird at first. faggy as this sounds, it hurt my face at first in all honesty, made my cheeks work-out sore.

once you're smiling you need to start thinking cocky. just bullshit it. everyone is a fucking fake, join in. nothing matters but what you want to so why not lead a good life and be happy? fuck it.

>>6451855 cont.
then, make friends with some half way cute chick. be non-threatening.

alternatively, meet a cute girl ask her out right away. if you wait more than a few days she will stop caring. girl I'm dating right now had two friends who'd been waiting months to ask her out. Then I showed up and three days later I'd asked her out.

Who would you rather be?

>>6451890

i've always been the two other guys :P

Women I work with often complain about how their boyfriends have no friends. I really don't see how that's a problem, but it seems that women view it as one.

In my experience, the more attractive the lady, the more social she is. Currently involved with this one girl I met a few days ago, and she will not fucking leave me alone. Can't go an hour without texting her, always wants to webcam. I enjoy talking to her sometimes, but with her, there is no down time. Talk talk talk talk, so aggravating.

>>6452359

I thought that girls complained when their boyfriends wanted to hang out with friends instead of them?

Just don't hang out with girls who pity you just for being yourself. Problem solved.

The problem most of you don't understand is, if you want an attractive woman, you have to meet certain standards. All this shit about waiting to find a woman who will like you for you is touching, it really is, but often these women are not very good looking.

There are smart, intelligent, good looking women out there, believe it or not, and they do have high standards. They love to have fun. They don't like to sit around the house all day and mope about.

As much as I hear about people wanting to transition from lonerfags and social hermits, into these confident, pussy-getting 'alpha males', it's honestly the most retarded concept I've ever heard of.

Do I have friends? A few. Does that mean I need to be out every night getting drunk and trying to get laid? Fuck no. I enjoy being alone, because it lets me do whatever the fuck I want without having an image to maintain. And honestly, you couldn't pay me enough to roll around with the chicks those 'alpha males' get. Not because I don't enjoy sex, but because they don't interest me, even sexually. They're just pieces of plastic, and thinking that the only reason they would associate with me is because of some act I have to keep going, is the biggest fucking turn off I can imagine.

So, do what you want. I'll be here enjoying my job, my vidya, and my art, and not giving a shit about people who want me to change the fundamental principles of who I am in order to be worthy of their time.

>>6452432
My girlfriend, is, at least I like to think, smart, and quite attractive, and she doesn't seem to mind at all the fact that I am pretty horrid looking and completely asocial. Mostly, because I'm the only real contact with another human she's had in months, but still.

It's about not trying to find them. Just live your life. Make your money, enjoy your hobbies, and don't put up a fake front that you think will impress people, and at some point, someone will like you for it. And if they don't, you probably missed them.

>>6452560
I have the same mindset as you. This is despite the constant reminders from the media and society that this is what men or women should be or be more social.

I have no regrets.

>>6452560
put my thoughts into words

>>6452560

I completely agree with that.

I have a girlfriend who is good looking yet introverted. She has a few friends and is only social with people she's comfortable being social with. When we started going out, I told her how I rarely hang out with the few friends I have. She was completely fine with that and told me the same thing.

Girls who want guys to have a ton of friends are the type of girls who jump on social status. They also claw onto the guys who are their equal socially.

>>6450710
The PUA shit also doesn't mention anything about your dwelling. Once you bullshit your self up and snag the girl, going back to your place so they can see all the nerdy shit you have or meet your parents fucking sucks.

Chicks don't realize that in order to seem desirable to them, many guys have to make complete lifestyle changes, totally transform their persona. Meanwhile chicks just sit around looking pretty, getting drinks ordered for them and getting asked out.

It's fucking ridiculous.

>>6452843
I swear to god any girl who comes up to my room automatically asks "Why do you have two computers?" The fuck? I have two monitors you insufferable cunt. It's called desktop real-estate.