it seems i will be returning to bavaria very soon.

>>6004383

enjoy your turks

this is interesting. i can see british having a right to tell immigrants to get the fuck off the island, we were here first.

as opposed to people in the US. We're all immigrants. except for the redmen.

>>6004458
Why does the concept of a national identity have to be based on race? Why can't anyone who likes the British system move to the U.K.? Amerifag here who does not understand race based politics, someone please enlighten me.

>How does this make you feel, britbots?
Indifferent. A lot of people will consider voting BNP, and then realise that there are only really 2 candidates with a chance and vote for the one they hate least.

>>6004488
it's all based on the principle of the thing.

Hehe, I'm happy really.

Although I am very sympathetic to them there extremely unlikely to get in power ever, but the more they grow the more likely the big partys are to curb immigration.

>>6004458
There was an article not too long ago (I think in The Guardian) that said Labour's mass immigration policy was intentional because they wanted to a create a 'multi-cultural' Britain as whitey could not be trusted to vote for them.

1. ) Steralize chav's
2. ) Deport non-European immigrants
3. ) Leave the European Union

Minority American here. It's no big deal. The important thing to remember is that even if the Britfags vote in their rightist, nationalist party, they'll all still suck at whatever it is they try to do.

Britain is fucked regardless because half the country is poor, unskilled trash.

>>6004458

see

>>6004383

the british weren't first.

>>6004488
also; people wishing to immigrate into a society in theory shouldn't just put down some stakes and say "lol i'm here now, you have to respect my ways that aren't compatible with your ways" i.e. radical muslims.

>>6004556
I don't understand why that doesn't work. It works In America, and i'm sure their are more diverse, well developed, western countries that are multi-cultural.

Christ almighty, Britain.

NATIONAL SOCIALISTS are polling at 22%?

>>6004458
>We're all immigrants. except for the redmen.

When did you come off the boat at Ellis Island, because I'm no immigrant. My family came from Czechoslovakia during the turn of the 20th century, and have since then lived, worked, and died in America.

As for the Native Americans: screw them. Before this land was colonized, it was a ragtag society of warring tribes steeped with old superstitions and lack of any economic or social progress.

>>6004595
They're not Nazis(I wish )

>>6004488
Another Amerifag here and I agree with you. These britfags have this ridiculous notion that they cannot have national pride unless they deport everyone that doesn't look just like them. WTF?

>>6004556
That's all well and good, but even the majority of American's don't want to deport Mexicans once they are already here, even the illegal famalies. I agree that a major influx of Muslims who don't have the same Western ideals could threaten the basis of your society, but just don't let many more in. You don't have to deport people who were born within your country. Race based politics isn't politics at all.

>>6004488
Because then it's not a NATIONALITY now is it?
I dunno how nutty the BNP are, but they are surely way fucking better than some other party granting EVEN MORE rights to immigrants and muslims and fucking up the educational system.

Seriously, even talking about and discussing the immigration policy and how it should be tightened to not just allow any kind of person to enter is seen as some kind of vulgar act in Britain (at least in media and in politics). You start to talk about it and get drowned out in cries of DATS RACIST!

>>6004632
When I did i stumble into a hundred years ago. I ask because you talk like minority rights are bad.

I think you should consider why they think you are being racists.

22% != majority vote.

>>6004594
What works in america? Multi-culturalism? Having whole cities be no-go zones for whites where houses sell for 5,000 dollars? Minorities commiting 75%+ of violent crime? 30,000 white women being raped yearly by blacks?

Diversity brings ZERO benefits, and HUGE NEGATIVES

>>6004671
This a million times.
What the fuck does it matter?

Call me when they win the election.

>>6004675
2nded!

Down with multiculturalism :)

Actually, a lot of British people like the idea of the BNP not because they are white nationalist, no one gives a fuck about race, it's because they are anti-islam. No one wants societal values to go back to medieval times.

>>6004650
Minorities don't need to have more rights than the native population. Ain't gonna happen bro. And by minority rights what I really mean is sharia law and swimming pool hours for muslims only (so the infidels can't see their haram women) and shit. Yes, they really were openly wondering if they should instigate sharia law in Britain to appease the muslims' juridical sensibilities. Fuck me, if you think that is nothing to worry about then I don't even know what to say to you

>>6004595
>tribes steeped with old superstitions and lack of any economic or social progress
You do realize America is predominantly creationist and in the middle of an economic depression don't you?

Also, the Native American's were masters of living in equilibrium with their environment. The US is currently living by standards it cannot sustain given the finite availability of the resources it consumes. The Native Americans by comparison were the stable ones.

As for war, there may not be as much conflict here on US soil, but at least some native American tribes went a few generations without war. The same can't be said of any US generation.

inb4 Y U HATE AMURIKA?
I don't hate America, I'll come right out and say we are the greatest nation on Earth. However I'm not going to ignore the stregths of Native American society and the weakness of ours.

>>6004675

Silly brit! look it up. America is a melting pot, forced conformity, Canada is the multicultural country. We're America's nice hat!

In 2008, America showed the world that although it's certainly not perfect, it's willing to confront it's own racial past and elects its first African-American President.

In 2010, Britain will retaliate by electing members of the BNP to parliament.

>>6004675
>implying diversity means poverty stricken minorities
POOR people commit crimes, not strictly minorities. You will never see a middle class black person with a family and a steady job breaking and entering in the US.

>>6004675
I see no justification for denying minorities rights here. Your basic thesis is that because minorities are inferior we should get rid of them. This is fundamentally flawed at the highest level

>>6004710

I don't believe this is true. This is the kind of sensationalism people use to justify war crimes.

>>6004716

Would you rather live a tribal life, or a modern American one?

good? i vote BNP.

>>6004783
Poor people = Low IQ = the majority of minority ethnic groups (yes, even the Slavs) house inferior brains.

Fun Fact #328: Brits are an offspring of seals.

>>6004785
Look, are you a Brit? Do you live in Britain? Do you experience the politics over here and how retardedly PC politicians get to appease minorities to win 1 or 2 more votes?

No? Then shut the fuck up

>>6004747
>>retaliate
Are you so stupid that you actually view real life events as "Europe vs America"? lol

>>6004785
>I don't believe this is true. This is the kind of sensationalism people use to justify war crimes.

Keep your idiotic opinions to yourself, faggot.

>>6004797
>Poor people = Low IQ
I don't know how you think genetics works, but the intelligence of a person isn't dependent on their proximity to currency. EDUCATION is what poor people lack.

>inferior brains.
Now ignoring the troll. Honestly, sometimes I think Europe is just a made up continent that only American trolls say they are from.

BNP supporter here. I fucking hate that all these different minorities are coming to our country and demanding more and more rights and refusing to obey OUR rules, all while posing a significant threat.

They should do what we say, or get the FUCK out. Any fellow britfags with me on this one?

Don't like Islam, don't like BNP, wat do?

>>6004849
Democracy sucked sucked anyways.

>>6004816
Once again, just because I am not of your superior British race my opinion is not worthless. The picture you paint is an impossibility. It sounds like you are motivated almost entirely by a feeling of racial superiority.

>>6004716
You're generalizing all Native Americans. You're a faggot.
Tribes such as the Apache and Cherokee warred constantly with neighbors.

The native American's never had technology above a few complex animal traps, they didn't have anything that you need to consume resources to make. There's a massive difference between a country that utilizes it's resources efficently and a tribe of hunter gather's who DON'T NEED the resources.

>>6004556-here, I'm not an anti-multiculturalist, but I do oppose people who's very belief system is an affront to other people's human rights, and get away with enforcing those beliefs(read: commiting those crimes) on the basis of "LOL ITS OUR CULTURE/andor/RELIGION DUDES."

Radical muslims do it in the UK, fundie christians do it in the US.

Also, anthro major here; >>6004716 is right, >>6004595 is an anglo centrist retard.

>>6004873
That's all racism is and why racists refuse to see it any other way. Their emotional state is tied to the belief so they can't get rid of it.

They are like creationists in a way. Creationists say "Goddidit" to explain nature instead of looking depper at the the operations of nature. Racists say "Racedidit" to explain the complexities of society instead of looking deeper at socioeconomic developments.

>>6004785
hurrblux
>I don't believe this is true. This is the kind of sensationalism people use to justify war crimes.
What anon meant: I refuse to believe it because I don't like the sound of it

Personally I'm happy for them. Multiculturism isn't working in europe.

>>6004852

Vote for the conservatives; it's essentially the BNP but a little nicer.

>>6004886
>You are generalizing all Native Americans.
I said "SOME tribes" dumbass.
lrn2read

I'm not even going to read the rest of your post because it likely merely builds on your ignorance of what I actually said.

>>6004849

I'm all up for introducing stricter immigration laws, but some of the BNP's proposals would just stop the country from functioning, and possibly drive Britain into war.

>>6004873
Dude seriously, are you listening to what I'm saying? Do you understand what it means for a member of the house of lords to seriously be contemplating a proposal to instigate sharia law?

If you just dismiss facts with a wave of a hand and a "I don't believe it, it sounds too harsh" then you're a kid and should get out of the thread, brit or not

The BNP is cool. It's been too long since there's been a genuine fascist party.

>>6004716
The only reason they had a good environment was because they lacked the tools to harvest wood and cut down trees. If they had those tools earlier they would have demolished a large part of their land.

BNP the shit out of Britan.

Get rid of the motherfucking inmigrants that won't stick to the western rules.

Ban Islam.

>>6004921
Because Colonial Americans had chainsaws and Native Americans only had edged cutting tools like axes, amirite?

>>6004922
While you are at it ban Christianity.

>>6004888

>Radical muslims do it in the UK, fundie christians do it in the US.

Comparing radical Muslims to fundie Christians is the mark of a retard. Wow, execute apostates and homosexuals, chop thieves hands off, women not allowed to drive and in the most extreme cases (Taliban) women can't even learn to read and write, and nobody can own a television or radio, versus no abortions, no stem cell research and intelligent design taught alongside evolution.

>>6004958
both groups are pretty retarded in and oft themselves.

>>6004918

Unless we are talking about different incidents (which is quite possible), the suggestion was to have sharia as an optional alternative in civil (not criminal) cases. It was not going to be forced upon anyone.

>>6004898
Explain to me at which point "immigination and racist emotion" comes into play when a politician proposes it

>>6004958
>execute apostates and homosexuals, chop thieves hands off
You are saying that happens in Britian?

>>6004958
>Implying that fundamentalist christians wouldn't do most of those things if they could get away with it.

>>6004922

Choice #1: Allow immigration, immigrants don't conform immediately, over several generations conformity does occur and they are successful in society for it.

Choice #2: Ban all immigrants, they stay in native country unhappy they are not welcome. Strong anti-British attitudes form, then you have a bigger issue than what you started with.

>>6004716
>You do realize America is predominantly creationist and in the middle of an economic depression don't you?

Just because we're creationist that means we're all superstitious extremists? It may be in the view of a stupid teen atheist, but you have to give credit for the great amount of moderation that exists in American religion. And economic depressions are a risk you take with economic growth, but at large this one is at fault of the corporatist government, not the people.

>Also, the Native American's were masters of living in equilibrium with their environment.

By living in wood huts, dying in their 40's, and living off of hunted mammals and small wood gardens. I'm pretty sure Americans who aren't envirocommunists strive to get more out of life than that, and are more than willing to pay what it costs.

>The US is currently living by standards it cannot sustain given the finite availability of the resources it consumes. The Native Americans by comparison were the stable ones.

Yes, they were quite a sustainable society because they only ever strived to survive and were adept at it after generations of experience. No other major accomplishments or a better life were sought. Just the status quo of simple life from birth to death.

>>6004716
Fantasy land leftist thinking anyone who isn't white is somehow superior to use, or that older more traditional ways of life is somehow better.

That's all nonsense of course.

>>6004917
Because britain has never gone to war before mirite?

>>6004839
Yes because EDUCATION is going to magically grow legs for a cripple, or make a broken brain work.
Poor people are dumber/lazier/generally inferior. YES the elites do "oppress" the poor, that's just the way it is. Same as women in shitty relationships become used to it, so does middle class/lower class get used to government stepping all over them.

It's also been repeated here again and again that poverty has no correlation with crime. It is IQ, and more importantly RACE. Sure culture is a big deal too, negro culture doesn't help things. But ultimately it comes down to race and genetics.

>>6004984
Why are you putting "immigination and racist emotion" in quotation marks? I didn't say it.

But anyways, back to the question... wait what? Racism comes into play all the time because racists exist. What is your question here?

>>6004976
You do not make concessions of that kind. First it's sharia for civil, then for criminal offenses, then even more

Dude, have you no pride? This is ONE COUNTRY, ONE CONSITUTION, ONE JURISDICTION. None of that splitting bullshit

>>6005003

the only conforming that is happening is UK society conforming to suite the alien cultures.
(i.e. sharia law, burqas,etc)

>>6005023
>Fantasy land leftist thinking... blah blah blah
How about you read whole posts instead of the first few sentences, mkay?

alright new tactic.

take a look around this hellhole. do you see those cameras? the police doing what they want. the youth being as stupid as ever? the gangs being as violent as ever? the bankers being as fat as ever? last time you saw a dragqueen? last time you came across an asshole telling you what god was? you've seen the bullshit on the telley lately? those smug faggots. those old folks, apathetic as ever eating it up what the government says. yeah, do you know the island's history? listen mate, this shit is an old story. you know the ending? it's not good. get out while you still can. some say this might be the final chapter.

cheers.

>>6004988

The comparison was between "radical Muslims" and "fundie Christians". Radical Muslims support those things. Saying that it doesn't happen in Britain as a defence is retarded. It's like saying that the Nationalist Socialist Party of America are not Nazis because nobody Nazi things aren't happening in the USA.

>>6005003
Yes, it'd be REALLY nice if that is how choice #1 would play out. Unfortunately, once you live fantasy land, reality doesn't look so promising

>>6005023
see
>>6004898

Not going to read any of your whining against it though because like the post says, you can't stand without the emotional crutch of racism.

>>6005061

Should be

>It's like saying that the Nationalist Socialist Party of America are not Nazis because Nazi things aren't happening in the USA.

>>6005061
>Saying that it doesn't happen in Britain as a defence is retarded.
Why the fuck are you guys so defensive? I'm an American asking if it that actually happens in the UK, so how about you calm the fuck down.

>>6004363

inb4 germs invade brits

>>6005028

I'm not saying I agree with it, I'm just saying let's not exaggerate from the facts - and I'm not sure the whole slippery slope thing applies here.

If it's only used when both parties agree to it, then it shouldn't affect my life - but the idea of separate systems does still make me feel very uneasy.

Some people are objectively and genetically better than other people.

Stop denying science, liberals.

>>6005061
Additionally, if you are going to say Islam is inferior to Christianity how about you check out Christianities past first. Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the various wars in incited by nations within Europe having different Christian sects, burning people alive for heresy, etc.. Following the fall of the Roman Empire it was Islam that existed in a progressive and at that time modern society while Christianity was the backwards religion.

Don't ge me wrong. I hate islamic fundamentalism a lot more than Christian fundamentalism for obvious reasons, but it didn't always used to be this way.

>>6005111
1/10blox
Troll harder next time brobot.

>>6005107
That's like saying "how about we just make the 1st or 2nd or 5th or whatever ammendement apply to only a specific group of people?". Shit doesn't work that way in a society, you gotta stand by your roots and your convictions. Either they accept the laws and jurisdiction of the country they are immigrating to, or they don't and they can stay wherever they came from, it's that simple

>>6005143

Butthurt genetic inferior found. Enjoy your lack of utility to society.

>>6005129
Listen you fantasy land leftist, take a look at the CONQUESTS OF ISLAM and how the crusades were a REACTION to encroaching muslim hordes. Or would you prefer all of us to be islam now?

Only takes one person to start a fight, not everyone is a pot smoking pacifist.

>>6005129
Yeah, that's about the only time Islam was progressive and superior. Christianity and western civilization evolved, Islam is still stuck in the middle ages

>>6005160

Again, I don't agree with it, I'm just saying that the notion that, under these proposals, your average British citizen would have been subject to sharia law is a fiction.

>>6005212
for now, yes. But perhaps 50 years down the line when muslims are the majority in all major cities. When muslim politicians hold power in government.
Then things can and will change, and britain does not have a constitution like perhaps America does.

Though we can see how little that really means when government starts making laws.

Let's do this! Let's Rescue Britain!

We will be known as the generation that saved Britain from the brink of an Islamic hellhole. Unlike those stupid fucking idiot faggots from the 1960's who let them all in. Those twats have got a lot to answer for.

>>6005111

Yes, but there's no racial correlation.

And genetics don't account for shit in the grand scheme of things. Nurture > Nature.

Lack of lib dems support here is disturbing.

You know what i fucking hate?

That curry advert on the telly, the one with the little boy going door to door selling curry sauces.

Stop changing my culture you little faggot.

Pole here

Fuck you your country belongs to us now

>>6004363
Nationalism is growing everywhere. Pan-nationalism FTW.

Even if you're an egalitarian you have to accept that nationalities and cultures everywhere in the world have irreconcilable differences, . As much as you'd love a mocha coloured utopia based on absolute consumerism and liberal platititudes, people care about more than that.

1984 Britain.

Ban everything, collect non-whites, send them to concentration camps, experiment with them, all for the sake of the progress of the white, superior society. Borders are closed. Rioting cost you death.

>>6005464
What's it like to suck so hard you dirty pole?

>>6005439
Overused Honest, but nvm - it was a flowing thought.

Maybe a test upon immigration, an knowledge/intelligence and language exam would be a fair way to decide who can enter and who cant?

many immigrants here dont try to learn the language or fit in to the society, they just stay in little packs of same ethnic background, making mini whateverthefuckistan's in every neighbourhood

>>6005384
That's because they're useless and pathetic and can't even make a decision and came *4th* in the last election.

They only get airtime on TV because the media is biased and crammed with Libtards.

http://www7.plala.or.jp/nsjap/main.html

weeaboo nationalist party~

someone stream 'children of men' so we can all watch.

how do canadians feel about white europeans living in their peaceful society?

Would some fine britfag consider explaining the basics of british politics to an ignorant amerifag? I want to understand all these BNP discussions but have no idea what's going on.

Thanksinadvanceblox

>>6005505

The Japanese have had their version of the BNP in power for the last 50 years. That's why Japan is 99% Japanese and doesn't have to put up with all the shit that Britain does.

>>6004532 Britain is fucked regardless because half the country is poor, unskilled trash.

Nice blanket statement there. Care to back it up?

>>6004363
Moved out of that shithole last year. I owned a restaurant for a couple of years and made some good money, paying 5-7 pounds per hour, and kept the tips to myself.
I had like 4 poles and 2 turkish workers, they never complained.

Now look my in the eyes and tell me I should pay 8 pounds to a fucking chav that stinks.

>>6005537
What is there not to get? In European countries you have more than 2 parties that matter and voting for one or the other actually makes a difference. The BNP is ultra-right and has many extremely nationalistic opinions.

What percentage of the UK population is Muslim? Are they really as prevalent?

>>6004797 the majority of minority ethnic groups (yes, even the Slavs) house inferior brains.

Right. That's how Soviets got to space before the U.S.

BNP: Only whites allowed

>>6005566
Just over half of children in schools achieve over Cs in their GCSEs less than half fail.

>>6005530
you mean the peaceful aboriginals that told stories and smoked their peace pipes? yeah, nice fantasy.

the aboriginals didn't call it canada and the first settlers on the continent were vikings.

>>6005537

What happened was this. In the 1960's some fucking idiot politicians let in loads of niggers and Pakis into the country. Nobody wanted them here and people went on marches and protests and stuff to make the politicians listen and stop it. One man called Enoch Powell spoke out against it, but the Establishment ignored him. The scumbag politicians didn't listen, they carried on flooding the country regardless of the fact that the people didn't want it. The politicians invented all sorts of laws to stop people from opposing this unwanted immigration. The politicians betrayed the British people.

Now the British are faced with the fact that they could be made ethnic minorites in their own country. As you can imagine, they are extremely pissed off about it and finally starting to express themselves at the ballot box by voting BNP.

>>6005547

Japan has always been isolationist. You can't only attribute their low foreign population toward their political parties.

By the way, amerifag here. BNP is racist but thats fine in my book

>>6005530
They're basically the exact same as Canadians. There is no model Canadian, so it's hard to judge how we feel on others. We're basically every god damn race and religion combined into a country, yet somehow we're all Canadian.

>>6005644
same thing in the USA.
A number of jews thought up this endless immigration idea. And politicians pushed it on everyone else. Of course lots of lies about how it won't effect white America or cause big changes.

>>6005612

obviously they had the help of extraterrestrials.

>>6005598

4% of the population.

92% are white. hurpity durp

>>6005547

Japan is governed by the left-of-center "Democratic Party of Japan". The closest thing to the BNP would be something like the Ishin Seito Shimpu.

>>6004363
Britfag here. This cartoon is possibly the stupidest thing I've seen in a long, long time, and on that level mildly irritates me.

>>6005715
>>6005715

officially.

considering all the illegals, its notably more.

london is like 20% muslim i think

>>6005670
>Oh, Japan has always been isolationist.
What, you mean like Peal Habor?

Don't you just love the way the leftists say it's OK for other countries to be racist, but not the white countries.

anti-racist = anti-white

>>6005715

92% white with 4% Muslim? Brits are complaining about losing their damn country to a Muslim invasion when they only make up 4% of the population? They'd probably have a heart attack if they came to the US.

>>6005715
that's 4% too much

>>6005671

And we all get along just fine. The closest thing we ever had to a serious crisis was that FLQ shit in Quebec, and they were only active for seven years.

>>6005745
In America they'd come to appreciate that our Constitution stops Sharia Law from EVER being implemented anywhere and there are no segregated communities that fall under religious law.

I think the broadcast of Nick Griffin on BBC's Question Time was a cynical attempt by the Left to split the Right Wing vote. All those Daily Mail voters that would have voted Tory will now vote for the BNP. The result will either be a hung parliment or a narrow Labour win.

Mark my words.

>>6005736

It's actually about 8.5%.

>>6005770

the constitution means nothing. "it's just a piece of paper."

>>6005745
Those stats are almost 10 years old.

This years stats are: Only 64% of babies being born in Britain today are British. Mohammed is the 2nd most popular baby boys name.

>>6005752
It's bliss, isn't it?

I dont really care since im white.

Would be interesting to see how things would turn out if they won.

>>6005816

british = white?

>>6005816

Source on that one please.

>>6004595
>>6005021

>Implying that all native Americans were sparsely populated hunter gatherer kinship groups. Completely oblivious to the fact that every place in the East coast that ends in "field" was a town founded over a native American farm after they all died of smallpox.

>>6004595
>>6004595
>>6004595
And yet.. they were happy.


Economic success doesnt matter in a world WITHOUT AN ECONOMY

>>6005856

Not in any way different?

Catholic? Ginger maybe? Big nose? Big ears? Or has someone in the family got a disability?

"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me"

>>6004488

Because hundreds of years ago the industrialized nations decided they would create a "third world" where marshal law is in affect. This "third world" is designed to supply the industrialized nations with luxury and prosperity.

People living in the third world hate it there and want to come enjoy our luxuries and prosperity. The democratic left wing said they deserve to have as a good chance at a prosperous life as the people born in the industrialized country.

So for hundreds of years industrialized nations have been filling up on immigrants. Some are at the breaking point, while some could use even more people.

We are at a point where as long as people in the third world decide to keep having children to make their own lives easier there will be more and more of a push to keep them out of the industrialized world.

TL;DR: People are fucking too much, people are being too lazy, and everyone wants to not work and receive rewards for eating food and watching TV.

That's what's going on.

>>6005928
>>6005928
I just meant, Im British white native for as far as records go back so i wouldnt be deported.

I Think far enough back im Danish

When your son is threatened after school for being white, we will protect him. When they try to rape your daughter, we will protect her. When they rob your wife, we will get her money back. When they try to shut you up, we will speak up for you. When they come for you, we will come for them.

You are welcome, ungrateful liberals.

>>6005963

Then you had better fuck off back to Denmark before we burn your fucking family you foreign cunt.

>>6005928

If he denounced the Old Testimant as Jewish filth and proclaimed Jesus to be an Aryan, he wouldn't have been in that mess.

>>6005735
The funniest thing is the British Media character is a spitting image of Nick Griffin.

>>6005985
>>6005985
Well your a nigger if you wanna go back enough

>>6005525

oh man that movie mad me rage so hard

HERP DERP THE ONLY HOPE IS A BLACK BRITISH CHICK HURRRR

What is the BNPs position on the Normandy question. Most Normans do not consider themselves French, they have more in common with the Cornish. Normandy used to be soveriegn British territory. Will the BNP demand it back?

>>6005871
>>6005859
Stats from:
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/STATBASE/Product.asp?vlnk=14408

Percentage of babies born with Mother and Father both born in the UK:

1998 = 73.6%
2002 = 69.9
2003 = 69.1
2004 = 68.3
2005 = 67.3
2006 = 66.4
2007 = 65.3
2008 = 64.7

Notice how it's falling by 1% a year. Only 15 years left 'til minority time!

Mohammed #2 baby boys name:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1890354.ece

>>6006051
fuck you, children of men was awesome.
michael caine was brilliant as usual, and clive owen was really good

I'm a BNP supporter only because I hate Muslims.

I have nothing against Arab people, or any other racial minority, but I cannot fucking stand Muslims. I thought our world was making a push towards secularism, and then these guys start popping up all over the place just when Christians were finally mellowing out and settling into their own crazy niche.

It's nearly 2010 for fuck's sake. I have no time for this backwards lunacy, and the world shouldn't even be tolerating this shit. Send the Muslims back to their own crazy desert countries and they can kill each other all fucking day for all I care.

>>6006021

If you can trace your family back to the reign first English King then you are an Englishman. My family goes back before King Alfred, I am English.

If you arrived in the country after Alfred you are a foreigner and DO NOT DESERVE TO BE IN ENGLAND. Fuck off back to your own country.

>>6006112

If it wasn't for the BNP you would be voting Tory (no labour voter would ever consider voting for the nazis). I'm glad you are voting for the BNP it means one less Tory voter.

>>6006073
My all white, 100% english born and bred child will be named Mohammed, just to make you rage.

>>6006112

>I thought our world was making a push towards secularism

lolno

Religion is as much a part of human nature as eating or blinking.

>>6006170

secularism =/= lack of religion

>>6006160
It's a shame that the tories are still going to win the general election.

>>6006112

I'm white. My family have lived in the UK for as far back as we can trace (300 years+) - i'm going to bring my kids up Muslim, just to fuck off people like you.

the real question is, whose tentacles are slimier; nick griffin or david cameron.

Fuck the Anglican Church. That is all.

>>6006073
Wow. I'm not british, and as a matter of fact I'm of a healthy olive hue (but in my own country and aren't planning on leaving it so fuck off) and that is plain disgusting. Muslims are such parasites.

>>6006190

Tories can't win now the Right Wing vote is split down the middle. Most disafected voter that would have voted Tory will now vote BNP.

hahaha - suckers

>>6006190
I can't imagine how anyone in Britain could vote for Labour after what they did to your country in 12 years, and want 5 more.

You have a combination of a police, nanny, and welfare state.

What I have a problem with:

People coming to this country and expecting the country to change for them, ie: a lot of modern immigrants.

What I don't have a problem with:

Second, third and further generation immigrants, decendants of the influx of asians after WWII who are as british as any white brit and don't want anything changed.

It's time to stop letting anyone in and only let people very useful to the country in, such as doctors, scientists etc. Deport all the illegal immigrants unless deemed useful, get the doctors who are working as cleaners for 5 pounds an hour into jobs of their skill level. Deny cultural changes based on other cultures values and tell the offended to fuck of to their own culture if they want to follow their rules.

I don't think any one can say this is extreme.

>>6006073
>>6006073

Potentially misleading stats. I'm not born to parents *both* born here (Australian mother) but in terms of culture/national identity I'm as British (well, English) as the next person.

Hey guize Britishmuslimbot here. I'd just like to say, Sharia=crap. It's outdated, and the british equivalent is legalizing slavery again.

Now to defend my religion's honour. Many of the muslims who live in Britain work hard, work a lot, in the exact way that the Indians did when they first "invaded" the island. Many disliked them, but they're now a part of our society, our culture even. I would also like the country to be more patriotic, to have more British themed holidays etc. We don't want to take over the country. We don't want to kill every Christian, Jew or Hindu we come across. That would go under the title of "extremists", who make up a tiny part of the muslim population, and IMO, fuck up the religion so bad, it can't be called Islam any more. Just the same way we don't call every white Christian a Nazi.

The problem is nationalists, who don't want to co-operate, who want to shun ethnic minorites and deny them of their rights. They would call them a "burden". I would call them an "opportuntity". If minorities are taking up too much benefits, find other ways to tackle the problem rather than closing all borders, but evicting all outsiders first.

tl;dr: Muslims != terrorists, nationalists cause the problems they talk about

How your average sensible person lives:

Go to college, start a career, marry someone you love, have one or two children, and then die as a happy elderly man surrounded by family.

How your average Muslim lives:

Move to new country, marry three Islamic women, fuck like rabbits, have over twenty children and raise them all to do nothing but move to new countries and reproduce. Riot in the streets and integrate yourself so much into the new country that they eventually start making laws that resemble an Islamic state.

They don't even live like humans, more like some sort of horrible termite.

They way I see it

22% of britons could vote BNP
22% of britons are not anglo-celtic

I think societies only get all crazy and racist when the working class segment of the race making up the majority of the population start to feel threatened.

>>6006166
That's the general attitude of the Labour party. They admitted the other day that they brought in loads of immigrants just to piss people off. They couldn't admit it at first though, because... it would piss people off, especially core Labia voters. But now they're going to lose the next election, an ex-Labour adviser has come clean:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigrati
on-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

BNP are fucking liberals. They're not willing to go far enough.

Thread's pretty tl;dr, so I apologise if this has already been said.

We elect a black president and almost a quarter of you fuckers are neo-nazis and yet we're the backwards ones?

>>6006247
An Ethiopean Doctor is equivalent to a European janitor, skill wise.

>>6006328

>entertaining the notion that just under half of the USA aren't racist fucks

>>6006328
oh lawdy, do yourself a favour, read the fucking thread, be ashamed of what you've just posted and kick yourself in the head. Also, tl;dr? get the fuck back to /b/.

>>6006230

Labour have done a good job. If it wasn't for the bankers fucking the economy the country would be in great shape.

>>6006328

No, almost a quarter are too stupid/uninformed to realise that the BNP are neo-nazis. What the quarter wants is a stricter attitude to immigration.

>>6006377
>entertaining the notion that not all humans are racist

>>6006073

Look at these statistics. If a small number of immigrants/Muslims/Africans/Asian etc had come in, nobody would have minded. Nobody would have had a problem with a Muslim/Islam if they had been in tiny insignificant numbers. (ie >1%)

But that's not what's happening. The British are now getting completely swamped in their own country and that is completely unnacceptable.

For the reason, I support the BNP.

>>6006403
ugh, faux logic gives me ulcers. I would assume that somewhere in the concept of "half" exists the notion that half =/= every person.

I'm right wong - I believe in the Free Market.

For the Free Market to work you need the free movement of goods and produce, the free movement of capital and the free movement of people (even if they have brown skin and worship Allah). Government has no place interfereing with the market. Nor does the BNP.

>>6006403

You know what I mean.

Intollerant and actually actively racist.

I don't really care about whether the BNP wins or not (no western nation has a true democracy, its more like picking our dictators every few years) but I simply like the fact that they exist because they serve as something to piss off the people trying to enforce political correctness: as long as the BNP exist, political correctness can't start in on what is legitimately free speech (as opposed to racism, sexism and other offences)

>>6006286
Nice to hear from a seemingly reasonably muslimbot.
I don't subscribe to your religion, and have no problem with any religion if it's not shoved in my face, but the minority of death-screeching protesters scare the crap out of me. Luckily there haven't been any of those in Scotland, but my sister almost got caught up in some in Birmingham.

I probably wouldn't vote BNP (they're extreme and kind of weird), but I can see why they'd get the sympathy of the masses in the current climes.

>For some time, Royal Air Force spy planes have picked up radio communication between Taliban fighters who speak with thick accents from Manchester, Birmingham, West Bromwich and Bradford, all cities with large populations of British Muslims of South Asian origin.
http://afpak.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/10/26/british_muslim_gangs_and_the_chemical_jihad

>>6006451
When have free markets EVER benefited the majority? The workers lose their benefits/wages, while small business owners are destroyed.

>>6006451

The problem with a Free Market without governmental restrictions is that there's nothing to stop companies exploiting everyone left right and centre. You need some kind of elected official to represent the will of the consumer to prevent gross abuse of the system.

>>6006478
Extreme muslims smother the voice of the reasonable ones and the BNP does the same for white british people in the face of the international community.

So now Brits can't deal with the consequences of colonialism?

>>6006286

'defending the honour of your religion' - that's your problem right there.

Since when do you feel personally affronted when someone criticises the rantings of a shrooming paedophile who murdered his own parents?

Fuck Mohammed - PBUH (Pork Be Upon Him)

>>6006478

as anon already mentioned - it's good that the BNP are getting support becuase it means less conservative votes. Hopefully we'll get a hung Parliment and the Liberals will be king makers. They can then force electoral reform and end the two party system.

WPWW mother fuckers. We need a white homeland. The japs have japan. The ex-slaves have Liberia. The fucking Arabs have fucking Iraq/Saudi Arabia, the Persians have Iran, why can't whites have their own country?

>>6006569

We do - it's called Norway

>>6006543

Has nothing to do with colonialism. Britain has no colonies in the asian sub-continent, middle east or eastern europe. Where the immigrants are coming from.

The government fucked up in allowing anyone in. It would be like if the USA opened up its borders to mexico.

>>6006451

Free market:
Free movement of goods = OK
Free movement of people = Bad

>>6006588

wtf - Britain practically owned the Middle East at one point

>>6004531
I support your third point. The faster you folks get out, the happier the rest of Europe will be.

Please do get out.

>>6006612
for a very very brief period following the collapse of the ottomans

American here.

lolbritain

>>6006588


Britain owned Iraq (we fucking named the country), Syria, Palistine, Egypt, India (including Pakistan and Bangladesh) and Burma and Sinapore and Malaya and.... need i go on.

Learn the History of the British Empire.

>>6006451

An ex-Labour advisser has admitted now that they didn't open up the immigration flood gates for economic reasons, they did it for political reasons and then PRETENDED it was for the economy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigrati
on-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

Syria, Palistine and Iraq were owned for an incredibly bried period faggot. Learn2 British History

>>6006588

Britain invented Saudi Arabia - before Lawrence got involved they were just a bunch of waring raghead nomadic tribes

>>6006491

fuckblox
I'm surprised no one has commented on this. Holy fucking shit.

>>6006676
God fucking damn it, you have no idea about the history of the region do you? Saudi Arabia was formed by a power Arab warlord, not the fucking British you mother fucker

>>6006668
They were not just owned, they were MADE by Britain. That is why we have so many problems over there.

>>6006682

no one cares. I mean, does it matter?

ok.... Canuckistani here...

I live around a bunch of nonwhites and everyone's nice friendly hard working, I can walk the street safe at night without looking over my back, yet when I lived in the white part of town everyone kept to themselves, and were generally pissed off.

Naturally I should be some kind of racist because I grew up on the farms where only white people existed but why should I give a damn?

Take some advice from the rest of the commonwealth: It's not a big deal
its not the end of the world
Israel is the problem.

>>6006666

i'm not british, but imo, to allow excessive inmigration because you personally like multiculturalism is absurdly selfish

>>6006690

United by the the British - armed, trained and equiped - in the face of the Ottoman Empire

>>6006710

I live in Canada and the non-white parts of my town are the absolute worst places. If you aren't Indian (dot) you'll probably get mugged.

It's funny how THINGS ARE DIFFERENT IN DIFFERENT PLACES

>>6006724
That's a very different thing from what you previously claimed

HOW ABOUT EVERYONE LIVES IN THEIR RACIAL HOMELAND.

NO DIFFERENCES, NO STRIFE

PROBLEM SOLVED

>>6006713

Yep, Britain is in the situation it's in now because of selfish, spiteful politicians who acted against the wishes of the electorate. They acted in an undemocratic fashion.

>>6006690
you dont even know what "h" in history. by arabs? please use academic sources, not your father,friend or faggot columnists.

>>6006650

How is that relevant?

We don't own them any more. They just happen to be shit hole countries that want to move here for a better life. If France or Germany opened their borders they'd flood into there as well.

The fact Britian colonized them in the past is completely irrelevant.

>>6006773
Cool hyposcrisy dickcheese

three cheers for BNP, toss em all out

>>6006755

That's a far too sensible suggestion. The politicians and leftists would never go for that. They want to make things as complicated and difficult as possible.

>>6006782

Read the thread you fucking idiot.

I'm glad the BNP are popular - less support for the Conservatives.

>>6006802
You are the biggest faggot in this thread, you make no arguements and hurl insults. Youre fucking pathetic

>>6006755
Then take the whites away from:

America
Australia
South Africa
Every single place except the Caucasus and maybe Iran

>>6006802

Still not seeing any relevance.

Feel free to elucidate though or I'll just ignore you as you're clearly incorrect and cannot prove otherwise.

>>6006451

libertarian scum detected!

>>6006782

>The fact Britian colonized them in the past is completely irrelevant.

Every single european country gets its most imigration from the places it once colonized, but you can ignore that if you want.

>>6006650
these countries were and are being called like that. neither you nor last rulers after ottoman empire ended named it. use academic source. not your fag tea-chers britfag. oo what i'm a britfag too.

>>6006828
actually, it is speculated that the first modern humans were white-skinned and living in africa.

learn to anthropology BRO

>>6006858
Those countries never existed. Pakistan and Bangladesh are artificial, just like syria

>>6006848

libertarians = Jews

They just want more and more money by screwing everyone else over.

>>6006858
>>6006855

Still irrelevant.

As I said before, if France or Germany opened their borders they'd go there.

The simple solution is to stop letting them in, pretty sure Britain hasn't colonized poland in the past where a lot of traffic is now coming from.

It's not like they get a free pass because they're from an ex-colony.

>>6006830

You made a misinformed claim about British Imperial history (that we had nothing to do with SE Asia or the Middle East). You are so wrong it is embarrasing.

>>6006906

Agreed anon. Never trust a Libertarian.

>>6006891
JUST LIKE AFRICA. Seriously, every country on that entire fucking continent

>>6006891
check the post no i have referred before. you will see couple of countries. once they were not but named like that. the region... got it?

>>6006930
.....were not countries but named like that. the region... got it?

fixed--

>>6006913

>Britain has no colonies in the asian sub-continent, middle east or eastern europe.
>has

Do you not understand the concept of present tense?

>>6006891

THE BRITISH INVENTED THOSE COUNTRIES YOU FUCKING CHIMP. They also invented India and much of the middle east.

>>6004595
PROTIP: They're not socialist.

I have to admit, I used to rage at these threads, but recently I'm starting to side more with the BNP. I'd never vote for them but they do make it clear that Britain's immigration policy has failed catastrophically. I'll be making a protest vote at the next election by voting for the Pirate Party. Obviously they won't win, but I'm not going to vote for Labour or Conservative because I can't stand either party.

I don't want the BNP to win; Nick Griffin is a disgrace to this country, but unless the major parties conduct a major reform of their immigration policy then I will not be voting for them.

>>6006945

Britain has no colonies at all. You idiot.

>>6006988
what is common wealth? explain.

>>6006988

I'm aware of this.

Did I anywhere state the Britain currently has colonies?

>>6006891

All countries are artificial you dumb fuck.

Britain itself is no more "natural" than Pakistan.

>>6006988
you are a fail troll

Venezuelan man who has spent most of his life in the USA and will soon have a well-earned university degree and would like to live in England here. I can understand kicking out immigrants who only bring their problems, but what about professionals who will be loyal to the nation and proud to become a citizen and who will only help to make it a better place? Nothing wrong with us, right? inb4 HURR WHITE POWER

>>6006988

Beg to differ; Falklands, Gibraltar, and a handful of south pacific and Caribbean islands.

Britain had to invent countries in these areas when we withdrew, if we left them with no groundwork to support themselves we would be getting shit today for causing millions of deaths

>>6006998

It's a commmon wealth you fuck-wit, not a fucking 'colony' club. You don't even have to be a former colony (notice the term 'former', it's past tense) to be in it.

>>6007004
Neo, there is no spoon.

The three ethnic caricatures on the left hand side at least are honest. There's something suspicious about those whities on the right...

>>6006963

It would be useful for the BNP to get a few MP's in the Houses of Parliment in order to put pressure on the other parties to actually do something.

The main parties won't do anything about it unless the electorate pressure them into it by voting BNP. The main parties would be forced to act in order to keep peoples votes.

>>6007018


They are not colonies, they are crown protectorates. Self governing, self determining - NOT FUCKING COLONIES

Britain doesn't have any colonies anymore. That is a fact.

>Sees brits on Cartoon.
>Thinks about the crimes of the British Empire.

I fear the brits more than I fear any of the other people pictured.

>>6004363
that asshole white man is smoking, he's giving cancer to everyone in that picture. There's the menace

>>6007004

I dunno, you could say Britain is more natural because it was formed by conquest and then slow congealment, rather than just being arbitrarily put up by people that don't live there.

>>6006863

one theory out of many

either way, his point stands

>>6007029
you fucking moron you have no idea what the commonwealth is do you? Read a fucking book

DICKS EVERYWHERE

(apparently this is not original)

>>6007075

Pretty sure if we leave a load of hillbillies on the moon with advanced terraforming tools to fend for them selves that counts as colonizing, thus making the moon a colony of Earth. They'd be self governing and independant.

>>6007123

sorry, the other guy is right. whilst most countries in the commonwealth are ex-colonies, its not a requirement (eg Mozambique is a member but not a former colony).

>>6007123

Shit for brains. You do NOT have to be a former British colony to be in the British Common Wealth. This is a fact.

>>6006863
>speculated

I rest my case.
Anthrpology is not real science.

>>6007190
You still missed the fucking point, holy fucking shit.

Retard fucking alert

>>6007190

...although it does help

>>6007105

No, the state by definition is man made, and thus cannot be "natural".

And yes, the evolution of the British state has been a slow process, and significant portions were shaped by external forces. Nothing "natural" about it.

>>6007227

What? That they have no right to be in our country? Yeah, i agree with you.

>>6007227
>>6007227

... but you're still a fucking idiot

The British are such idiots. Make Americans look smart. Actually, no. They make the French look smart.

asdgSD
Britain had to invent countries in these areas when we withdrew, if we left them with no groundwork to support themselves we would be getting shit today for causing millions of deaths wfg

>>6007267
hahahahaha good comeback. You really zinged me there bro

>>6007290

The Brits posting in this thread are fucking stupid. Anyone who supports the BNP is a fucking chrome plated helmet

>>6007332
>anyone who supports the BNP is a patriotic briton who doesn't want to see his country run into the ground

fix'd

Labour Opening up the Borders to get a political base of immigrants is the exact same as Liberals in the United States opening up the borders... at...the exact...same...time....... "Won't profoundly affect Demographics of the United States" my ass.

Ever since the 60's it's been fucking importing people by the truckloads.

CONSPIRACY!

>>6008120
Well white britain is actually worth saving, white america is basically just lighter skinned mexicans

>>6006755
>>6006828

I actually agree with this. Call it the "Homeland Manifesto". Every ethnic group has a legitimate right to their own, untampered homeland. Blacks stay in Africa. Whites stay in Europe. Asians in Asia. A foreign quarter or two such as a Chinatown is fine, but mass migration is bad.

I dont want Britain to be 50% non-white, and I wouldnt want China to be 50% non-chinese, or Japan to be 50% Scottish

America's not far behind.

>>6006286

You're not British.

You're an Arab in Britain. Just like the Turks in Germany. Go look up 'Turkish German'. It doesn't exist because in Germany they know the fucking difference.

You will NEVER be British.

I like the fact that the Muslim and Paki/Sikh look threatening in a cartoonish manner, then its the realistic looking scary nigger.

>>6009041

what this dude said