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    148 KB Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:25:46 No.5825003  
    Educating yourself.

    Is there a way to teach yourself high level math/english, ect? I really want to learn these things, but I am not willing to go back to college for it.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:26:38 No.5825014
    Its called the internet.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:27:01 No.5825017
    Go check out some books from the library.
    >> Black ♫ Melody !.blacky9/Q 10/13/09(Tue)19:27:36 No.5825024
    english yes.

    I think it would be pretty hard with math
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:27:52 No.5825029
    a library card and/or the internet, some paper and pencil or pen.

    you don't even need the latter two. i taught myself multivariable calculus, linear algebra, and real analysis last summer because i am a really fun person.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:29:24 No.5825044
    I'm sure you COULD teach yourself these things but you are going to need books no matter what, the internet im sure has some fine things but textbooks, even outdated and old ones are the way to go.

    PS- what do you consider high level english? I'm an english major and am curious as to whether you're talking literature, writing, or linguistics?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:30:03 No.5825053
    You can, but with lack of motivation I don't think you'll get anywhere.
    >> Dr.Anon 10/13/09(Tue)19:30:03 No.5825054
    Math?
    Are you some kind of fucking nerd?
    At least learn something practical like music or enriching like history.
    Math goddamn...
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:30:32 No.5825065
    >>5825029
    fuck yeah im going to be taking math this summer for fun and hopefully will be taking calculus within the next year
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:31:38 No.5825080
    >>5825044
    I want to be the guy who uses big words without sounding like a pretentious twat.

    >>5825054

    I'm learning a bunch of things that are important to me, I'm sick of people trying to talk down to me, so I'm gonna show them all up. I haven't had much education after highschool anyway, so might as well make up for lost time.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:32:09 No.5825087
    Three years in college for IT and the only thing I've learned is how to learn the ins and outs of an application or language in one night at the last moment.

    A valuable skill, especially in times where data technology improves at an exponential rate, but still, if you can do that it is not at all necessary to get a degree.
    >> God Emperor of /adv/ !YgQRHAJqRA 10/13/09(Tue)19:33:09 No.5825106
    You can learn high-level English by reading. Just read everything.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:33:41 No.5825110
    I'm planning on trying to teach myself all the math I've forgotten since high school before I go back to undergrad.

    Teaching yourself is extremely difficult. You need to have some much motivation to make it work.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:34:01 No.5825121
    >>5825080

    >>5825029 here

    first of all, if your motivation is to seem smart, you won't last very long hitting the books. that aside, if you want to enrich your vocabulary, pick up a real dictionary and read really academic, complex, analytical, and academic texts. there are vocabulary workbooks in most libraries, too. maybe make some flashcards?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:34:43 No.5825126
    http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/books.html
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:35:04 No.5825131
    Free MIT courses:

    http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/home/home/index.htm
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:37:05 No.5825153
    >>5825131

    these are all great. pick up the textbooks and do the exercises, too. all of them. it is easy to understand how math works, but another thing to actually come up with it yourself. it's like riding a bike for the first time - it's easy to watch and see how it works, but it still feels awkward as hell when you first start out. you have to push through and do it for yourself.
    >> THE GAME Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:38:36 No.5825168
    >>5825080
    well then that might just be improving vocabulary, most of the time using bigger words means you have specific knowledge of whatever you're talking about and knowing specific terms having to do with that knowledge.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:39:23 No.5825179
    >>5825054
    implying Math is useless....
    5/10. Might rage again.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:41:28 No.5825207
    >>5825080

    If you want to improve your vocabulary, read the classics (19th century British literature is particularly good for this). Don't waste time reading random websites or dumbed down best sellers.

    Also, some dictionary websites have free "word of the day" email lists. They aren't bad, but the problem I've run into is that they don't give you any context. You're more likely to pick up and remember words by reading them in literature as opposed to reading just dictionary definitions.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:42:01 No.5825212
    >>5825080
    It's very easy to improve your diction. Whenever you read a book, a magazine, a comic, a poem, whatever, be sure to record all the words you don't understand down and look them up later.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:44:05 No.5825235
    >>5825121
    Not to SEEM smart, but to actually become smarter. It's been 8 years, and even my highschool education wasn't that great. I've been a pretentious ass for a lot of time, and in JC, I only took things that interested me, not things that "matter".

    As a result, I'm as dumb as a sack of kittens, and I seek to change that. People humor me, they talk down to me, and I ate that shit up for far too long.
    >> soapparentlyromanceisdead !K2QaoomPoI 10/13/09(Tue)19:45:39 No.5825255
    ITT: Autodidactism.

    The only way to teach yourself something is through trial and error. Practice, improve your understanding, and perfect the easiest concepts. The get more complex as your foundation grows. With enough time and resources, you'll be able to teach yourself anything humanly possible. Unless you're disabled or are genetically inept for such a task.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:49:18 No.5825294
    Whatever you want to learn, you'll do it more efficiently with a SRS.

    Read: http://supermemo.com/
    Download: http://ichi2.net/anki/
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:52:40 No.5825343
    Easily.

    You think you have to be taught English? Really? Just read things. Write what you think about them. Its really that easy. Make sure you are rigorous about it too.

    Math is obviously a bit harder, its the same in principle. There are many, many people in history who have taught themselves to be masters, and there is no reason that you could not do the same. Just buy a textbook and jump right in.

    This is just my personal opinion, but I feel that Godel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid, is an excellent tool for anyone who is trying to get a feel for integers and the core concepts behind math.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:56:03 No.5825380
    Try out The Teenage Liberation Handbook by Grace Llewellyn. I'm sure you can find a .pdf of it some where.

    It's a pretty great resource for unschooling/autodidact learning for all ages.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)19:58:11 No.5825400
    >learn math online

    Where? Any good math forums?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:03:29 No.5825456
    >>5825400
    You still need a textbook.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:10:19 No.5825512
    >>5825456
    I stopped math short of Geometry in highschool, I checked out a calculus book and couldn't make heads or tails of anything lol
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:12:45 No.5825536
    >>5825512
    Do you have examples of what you don't understand?

    Forums help for asking stupid questions, but I only know of bad ones.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:15:09 No.5825562
    >>5825512

    Well, I never got a hold of graphing equations. Areas, volumes and stuff like that is cake, but graphing, sines cosines, and tangents confuse me.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:16:07 No.5825571
    >>5825131
    Open MIT kicks fucking ass. I taught myself multivariable calculus and Game Theory(from Open Yale) over the summer. I also attended CC to learn about other calculus topics(infinite series and analytical geometry in 3-space).

    English is a bit more difficult, grammar would be easy but actually prose is difficult.
    >> Original >shaw Guy !XpdIGNYmwU 10/13/09(Tue)20:16:52 No.5825580
    I've taken many Political Theory classes and found out going to lecture is absolutely fucking pointless if you do the reading.

    That's pretty much educating yourself.

    Actually most of your first two years in college is spent educating yourself. Either because you're in a class of 500 and the grad student leading the discussion section is an absolute fucktard or because the profs teaching 100 and 200 level classes are shitbags.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:22:27 No.5825638
    >>5825580
    Wish I knew that when I was actually college aged ha
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:24:27 No.5825662
    >>5825562
    Learn any programming language, or get a plotting program, and just play with it for a while. For me, at least, this was one of the more fun parts of math.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:24:40 No.5825668
    >>5825343
    I've tried reading GEB:AEGB and was bored to tears. I got about fifty pages in until I came to the conclusion the author was mentally masturbating in front of me waiting for me to open my mouth to catch his load. What am I missing?
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:29:29 No.5825723
    You can only educate yourself. Who else would educate you? Teachers just repeat things they have learned from others. You get no original thought from typical teachers/professors. Just grab some books and start reading. I taught myself computer science and advanced math in 2 years using only resources available at my local library and the internet.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:33:48 No.5825774
    >>5825668
    The most amazing book I have ever read. Its level of depth is stunning. Read it again, and you'll see.

    Read between the lines.
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:34:20 No.5825785
    >>5825668
    One last question and I'll let the thread drop with dignity, Any sites out there where you can get some exercises? All I can find on Google are presentations meant for 12 year-olds
    >> Anonymous 10/13/09(Tue)20:35:50 No.5825803
    >>5825785
    Make up your own.



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