The benefits of wealth do get less the further up the spectrum you go, but being wealthier does add a certain gloss to your life that makes it way nicer.

you should get two of these things from a job: money, happiness, and location. if you love where you live and what you do you can deal with not making a ton of money, likewise if you make tons of money and live in an amazing location you can probably deal with not being happy with your job

So you can save it and then retire earlier. It gives you more money and time to chill.

If you plan on having kids you'll need more money if you want to keep your current life style.

>>5208970
Oh, yeah that's one thing. A good education and comfortable upbringing are costly.

>>5208935

But that's the ironic thing, many people who go into these jobs are workaholics to begin with. I guess it also depends where and how you want to retire.

80.000$ sounds like a normal job to me, I know a lot of people who make this kind of money and I also know a couple making more than 150.000$ a year, yet these people are not considered rich at all.

you really should rethink what a really good job actually pays.

>>5209024
Well, what I'd like to do is work a shitload and save for 25 years, buy a house, land, whatever.

Then I can just stop working when I'm about 50 and, assuming I saved enough, live off the interest of my savings + the actual savings.

Work hard for 25 years, spend the next 50 years relaxing.

>>5209072
Well, damn!

I certainly don't consider myself poor, even though I make nothing even approaching that.

>>5208840

Butthurt poorfag thinks that the only thing there is to life is music, books, games and clothes for one individual.

Enjoy not being able to support a family and maintain that life style.

>>5208840
You can get all the shit *YOU* want for 40 grand a year.
You have the job, house, vacations that YOU are satisfied.

You cant imagine people having different opinions? Maybe other people want more than that. Maybe they want a yacht.

Hell maybe some want less and dont give a shit about less than you do.

>>5209097
What the fuck, get your ass back into the Smithsonian Museam of Natural History. We've been wondering what happened to one of our extinct species exhibits.

>>5209125
Raccoons aren't extinct yet :(

>>5209099
I don't want kids anyway. I'd be a really bad parent.

>>5209072
Let me guess.

California.

>>5209072
You should move out of your upper middle class suburb and move out to flyover country. With that much you can live like royalty. With family.

ITT robots don't realize that anyone who makes between $40,000 and $300,000 a year is middle class in America.

I wouldn't get the bigger house or car, it costs substantially more.

I'd like to actually do something with my money.

diminishing returns are still returns.
you don't live ten times better making 40k than 4k.

most jubs that earn 80k are more exiting as well.

>>5209179
Like what, donate it? Oohoohoo, I'm benefiting good causes!

Money has no true value. The only thing you can trade money for that is truely valuable is TIME. Having money gives you more time with your family, more time traveling and seeing the world, more time doing what you like, and less time at work. Yes we buy a lot of stuff in our lives, but we can never get back the time that we spent working a job to get those things.

you can take more vacations, to more expensive places.

you can buy some nicer things if you want to, like nicer cars.

you can have more financial security, and be better prepared for retirement or economic problems.

I make roughly 15,000 a year before taxes.

I really need a better job.

kids.

block.

>>5209274

lol, please see attached pic

Why would anyone want children?

They're nasty little fuckers, sociopathic leeches until a certain age... utterly mindless and thoughtless.

The "love" of a child is only the love of what you give them materially. They don't get empathy for quite a while after that.

And then they leave you and basically forget about you. That's their thanks for 20 years of giving them all the time and money you can and sacrificing free time even at home.

Personally, I don't really care if the job I want makes a lot. I already know the pay for it and it's a decent amount. But what matters to me most is I actually get to do what I want with my life with that job. Which will make me a lot more happy in a way that X amount of dollars a year wouldn't. Oh and I already have a feeling I'm not going to be having a family so it's not like I will have to support anyone but myself.

My dad made $350,000 a year when I was in high school. I loved it.

>>5209245
this is why its better to have a job you truly enjoy doing, because then its not really a 'waste' of time when you're working

If I support my girlfriend through college and then when we get married and she has an awesome job, it's only fair that she supports me, right?

I'll still be working of course, but she'll be making more money.

>>5208840

I want to travel constantly and help my parents retire more comfortably. Oh and I also want a top-of-the-line kitchen. All of this is why I want to make a good amount of money. I'll be making $110k or so in about 3 years, fuck yeah.

Having more money shows people that you are better than more people.

>>5209405

If you're still working it's not really her supporting you, now is it.

>>5209455

This. More money means winning. Less means losing. Simple.

>>5209491

Urgh. I moved out of China to avoid that kind of mentality.

No matter what you obtain in life, whether it be money, cars, girls, jets, fame, fortune or whatever, humans have a tendency to want one thing: MORE

I believe it was in Troy where Brad Pitt's character said, "I want what all men want, I just wanted more." We'll never be satisfied with what we have and will always want more. I read a story where a millionaire stole a couple twinkies out of a gas station when in fact he probably could have bought the entire station itself. My two cents :)

Hi I'm a starving college student making minimum wage and I'm going to die alone under a bridge.

I hope richfags are amused by my suffering because I'll stab them in the eye and take their benz one day.

>>5208840
I think what you should ask yourself is...
1) Do I really like what I do for a living
2) Do I want to do it forever, and can I? (job security)


I think one day you will realize that you've lived a mundane existence and by that time it will be too late.

People should really have some self respect and drive, it shouldn't be about money for anyone, you only get one fucking life, why would you want to spend it all flipping burgers and playing WoW. I know you play WoW OP.

Well, $40 grand USD a year is hard to put your family through college on for starters, but that's been discussed already... if you're a family man you might want a career that offers more.

If you're not a family man, then you just get more of everything you like. You can eat out more often at nicer places, buy cars more frequently and of nicer quality, go on vacation more often and to nicer places, etc.

At the end of the day though, it's about being happy. If you don't care that you can't afford a month-long tour of Europe, then it doesn't matter.

More money means more doors are open.

I wouldn't complain if I made 80k a year.

I'd live simply, content with what I have. And every once a while travel somewhere really awesome. Or go places on a total whim, like to NY or Sydney at a moments notice.

My experience in life (for better or worse) has been that rich people are miserable workaholic cunts that suck at raising kids, and that the happiest kids come from middle/lower middle families that actually spend a lot more quality time with their parents camping and shit.

An interesting exception is the richest dude i ever met (top 50 wealthiest in the UK) whose kids were lovely, even if they had no concept of the value of money. Then again, all those kids were preteen, so they had plenty of time to become miserable and alienated.

Basically, from personal experience, i dont even want to be rich. Number 1 priority = raise balanced kids. Massive wealth makes that harder.

Mo' money mo' problems, brah.

You can buy a new car right off the bat without caring about money = you're rich.

That or a house, just off the bat, no mortgage or anything. My dad knows a few millionaires, when you get up to that range you almost automatically turn into an aristocrat or your kids do. There's not much you can really do to ensure your family will really be happy but having too much or too little money certainly gets in the way of things.

I've been fairly poor all my life, I mostly want money for security and ordering pizza, because I fucking love ordering pizza.

Fuck man, I wish I was making $40k. I've been making around 20k the last three years and I can't even put money into a savings account 'cause I'm living paycheck to paycheck.

Glad to see you're happy with what you got, OP.

if you're over 25 and still make less than $60,000 , then you are a failure and human garbage. Please kill yourself and make the world a better place tia

>What's the point of having a really, really good job, like paying upwards of $80,000 a year?

More disposable income.

That same disposable income can be used to put into a savings account or the stock market. Getting paid $80,000 a year does not mean you have to spend all of that money. How you do with the money is more important.

Besides, if for some reason you're unemployed or laid off, you can live off your savings and will have to fear of losing your house while looking for an another job.

>>5209534
In my experience, most insanely rich people actually seem to be pretty cool dudes.

People making ~150k a year tend to have all the problems.

Also, super-rich fucks are generally people who have plenty of free time, and thus do all the things they like, are in great shape, etc. Most of the upper-class working folk tend to be workaholics who too busy to work out, raise their kids, pursue their dreams, etc.

combined my parents make about $350k a year (they have about equal salaries)

let me tell you they are far from "rich." Owning a home and supporting 4 children is a massively expensive venture. Good luck on doing that shit on 40k a year lol

>>5209633
You're parents can't budget for shit then and are probably living beyond their means.

Well, I think there are perfectly sound incremental benefits to be had up to at least around $250,000, more if you have a few kids. Nicer house that you can still fully use, holidays in cool locations, fine dining. If you've got a taste for some of the nicer things in life, spending yet more is easy, without degenerating into purely conspicuous consumption. There are some rather expensive hobbies around, like collecting art or antiques, or even sailing. Things like having an old property expertly restored for you or your family to live in also won't come cheaply. I guess the amount you can spend without looking like a dickhead will at least partially depend on your upbringing though.
However, even beyond what you can spend, there's still an attraction in making more money. You could call it greed, I'd be more inclined to call it a thirst for easily quanitfiable, codified approval. It feels good to watch that balance on your account increasing and knowing that you're worth more than the vast majority of people around you. Why do you think people are so obsessed with what the other guys in their firm make? Money gives you satisfaction and self-worth. You can get this through other means of course; prizes, public honours, general respect for your profession. But money is just a very easy thrill. Maybe I'm just naturally greedy.

>>5209654
Or his parents might just pay for an education that enables their children to distinguish between "you're" and "your".

>>5209617

That's about right. The top-top tier just do whatever they want and are usually a bit weird, which helps.

It's the "Upper middle class" money worshippers in porsches and designer clothes that fail so hard.

>>5209598
Uh oh, you've just induced suicide in the majority of grad students in the US and elsewhere, including those PhDs, MDs, and JDs. Ah well, tough shit.

>>5209633

My parents own two homes, three cars, raised three kids (myself included), and are still raising two more. They make a combined ~120k/year.

my parents are better with money than your parents

my parents have been living in northern virginia (expensive lifestyle), they came to usa on '91.
they've raised 3 kids (ages: 11, 16, 19)
together they make barely $70k
they have a single house (4br), grocery store (since '07), 3 cars (1 new)
im going to a community college atm
it all depends how you manage your money