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    217 KB Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)14:53:07 No.4964115  
    Why the fuck are people stupid enough to actually believe all the shallow propoganda flying around recently? Arthur Miller must be spinning in his grave.
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:00:31 No.4964182
    socialism is evil though
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:01:12 No.4964192
    You politics trolls are all the same.

    sage for this faggory.
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:02:38 No.4964204
    >>4964192

    God, you didn't even bother reading (or looking at) anything, did you?

    How contradictory of you.
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:05:34 No.4964227
    >>4964115
    Bro, all you'll get are troll replies, don't bother
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:10:05 No.4964262
    Maybe he shared awareness of the topic with all of his brethren rather than experiencing it first-hand?
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:13:21 No.4964290
    socialism, nice concept. its not going to work tho is it
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:15:42 No.4964312
    capitalism looks good on paper
    capitalism sucks in application

    socialism looks good on paper
    socialism sucks in application

    the difference? you haven't seen socialism fail first hand

    fuck off
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:16:56 No.4964323
    >>4964290

    >Hurf durf, socialism is only good on paper
    *Never read a paper*
    *Knows literally nothing about socialism*
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:19:23 No.4964341
    >>4964323

    People will never give up power. People will never follow socialist ideals without being forced into compliance.
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:19:30 No.4964345
    >>4964312
    actually we've seen it fail (spectacularly) every time it has been tried, but that wasn't "real" socialism right?
    >>4964323
    socialism is even bad on paper
    luckily people can't afford paper under socialism
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:19:50 No.4964352
    I DUN WAN PAY TAXEZ
    ALL POOR PPL R LAZY
    ALL RICH PPL R HARD WOKERS
    Y SHUD I PAY FOR STUPID BEANRSEZ TO GET SCHOOL TO LEARN EDUCATION IN ENGLISH STUPID BORDERJUMPERS
    ALLSO I HAET NIGREGS
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:22:41 No.4964377
    >>4964345

    It was the first step toward socialism.
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:23:22 No.4964386
    Socialism is evil because in such a system, man uses threats of violence and force on his fellow man to extract his wealth and/or obedience.
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:24:08 No.4964398
    >>4964341

    Obviously. Luckily, the "people" you speak of with power represent only a small fraction of the world's population. Revolution was the bourgeoisie's finest invention. It is also the running noose which will help it take its leap into oblivion.
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:24:34 No.4964405
    >>4964345

    by "we" i mean in the non-shithole countries, i.e canada, USA, england, whatever

    in before shitstorm about the USA being considered not a shithole, i mean of course when stacked up against shitty 3rd world countries where most people don't even have access to running water
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:25:18 No.4964417
    >>4964341
    LOOK AT THE PICTURE YOU IDIOT

    PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING SOCIALIST IDEALS RIGHT THIS MINUTE
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:29:01 No.4964446
    >>4964417

    Socialist ideals =/= socialism

    You are the idiot. Yes, I just said "NO U!"
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:35:38 No.4964501
    FUCK SOCIALISM. OUR COUNTRY IS GOING TO GO UP IN FLAMES. DAMNIT.

    socialismSUCKSDICKbloxxx
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:36:16 No.4964506
    Socialism =/= Communism

    Just want to throw that out to some of the people who are obviously getting the two confused. That being said, I would venture to say that socialism is less efficient than capitalism in real world application. It may excel in certain areas, though.
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:48:27 No.4964630
    ITT - capitalist butthurt americans

    stfu, the world is breaking because of your shit economy.
    My country was not affected, since we have nothing to do with the USA or Europe's essays anymore...
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)15:52:52 No.4964669
    >>4964506

    Shit socialism in third world (now known as second world) countries has been attempted in the past and it industrialized nations at a pace unheard of in the West while raising the average lifespan of their citizens through the rough and giving women and their countries minorities civil rights.

    It's as if none of you reactionary turds has an ounce of intellect. 4chan fancies itself a bastion of intellectual outcasts yet it never fails to make the dumbest, most vague and fallacious arguments possible.
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)16:05:53 No.4964797
    >>4964312

    Pessimism = realism, bro.

    The truth is, BOTH work very well in application, when applied correctly.
    But Capitalism is slowly dying because of monopolies and corporations not being monitored by Government, and therefore destroying the healthy competition which benefits society
    Socialism is simply the pooling of money to create an effective resource and bypass the commerical step, making it more streamlined and available. Would I want earthquake rescue teams privatised? Fuck no, I want to pay for them via my taxes and have them ready and waiting for a disaster. I want my services, such as public transport, rescue, law enforcement, education and healthcare socialised so that they are cheaper and more effective - we don't need competition in these fields, except in the case of education where competition is done by students, not by the institutions themselves.

    Incidentally, I want my food, leisure, insurance etc. to be privatised.

    Socialism and Capitalism can work together, in different areas, in different amounts.
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)16:20:59 No.4964945
    >>4964797
    Fail economics is fail.
    >Capitalism is slowly dying because of monopolies
    By definition, everything under a socialist economy is monopolized by the state. You're chopping off your head to try and remove a freckle. Also, capitalism doesn't die.
    >I want my services, such as [everything] socialised so that they are cheaper and more effective
    By socializing them you make them more expensive per person and less effective. Wanting them socialized for a valid reason, like say there are some barriers that the private sector cannot overcome to deliver them, is one thing, but wanting things socialized because you think they will be cheaper and more efficient is completely absurd.
    >we don't need competition in these fields
    Competition lowers prices and that makes those fields and society as a whole better off in a significant way, especially for those that can't afford much.
    TL;DR: socialism = no
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)20:02:22 No.4965829
    socialism is the new communism in dirty americans head
    >> Anonymous 08/04/09(Tue)20:06:13 No.4965870
    personal responsibility, get some you socialist faggets.



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