Prevalent on 4chan? Because there are a lot of young people here who are trying to test boundaries.

guns germs and steel
jared diamond

>>4199117
What he said. It's partly a lot of young people just saying things they've been taught their whole lives not to say for cheap shock humor. And partly just a lot of really ignorant and stupid people who actually believe this shit and have an outlet to express it without getting their head stomped in.

>>4199117
Well, yes, on 4chan specifically. I mentioned that I was black in an argument on /fit/ and the first thing I get was a monkey macro. :/ Is there really that much internalized hate for people of color (not just black) in the average white dude? In everyone else FOR everyone else? If not, why so much hate?

well u see there are black people and there are niggers

>>4199143
Nah there's not hate. If there's anything it's confusion about how to act, since most suburban white kids don't encounter many minorities.

Haven't you ever thought to yourself "look at that dumb nigger over there"? You can't tell me that's never happened.

>>4199145
That differentiation may be true, but implies that a nigger is still somehow lower than the absolute worst class of white person on the planet. I don't see the need to separate from black people and niggers when it's really more like people and fucking idiots on a larger scale for humanity.

>>4199143
What you have to realize is that the vast majority of the "racism" on here isn't real. These people don't have any real hatred for people of another race. They're either fucking around on the internet because they're bored, or spewing shit they don't really believe on the internet because they're pissed at life and try to convince themselves they hate something, because they think that makes it better.

You came to 4chan to discuss racism?
Seriously?

>>4199137

This.

Also people who show up on 4chan, see fuckloads of people doing it, and assume it's ok.

It's not ok. It's not even funny. Say something witty for once.

That was me talking to them.

4chan used to be 20 year olds acting to be 13 year olds online. Now it's 13 year olds pretending to be 20 years olds acting like 13 year olds. Take it less seriously, brobot. Are there racist white people out there? Of course. But most aren't, or at least try not to be.

>>4199235
Usually they're doing something stupid, not just being black. Also, I usually catch myself and remind myself that judging people is stupid and a waste of time. Also, bad.

According to revleft.com, only white people can be racist.

Other races only have prejudices.

So, racism is so prevalent because white people are prevalent.
If non-whites where prevalent, prejudice will be more prevalent

People just behave rasict on 4chan because they think calling somone a nigger on the internets will make them rage. Just goes to show the level of intellect displayed by the posters here.

>>4199255
Oh Jesus, I bet you don't cry when people talk about "rednecks" or "white trash". Go somewhere else to purge your white guilt

>>4199350

That's racist against white people.

Nigger is a funny word.

racism is a joke on 4chan. few here are the inbred racists you see in real life.

Everyone knows there's racism on all sides. In some Asian countries where there aren't any "white" races to speak of, there's racism between different Asian races. It's not just about whites vs. blacks.

However, in America today the biggest source of racism is whites over blacks. Therefore that gets the most attention.

Were the Black Panthers racist? Of course. But seriously, who gives a shit, they were never half the threat to civility and society as a million white bosses firing a million black underlings for no reason other than skin color.

People working for social equality generally have to pick their battles, and right now "whites over blacks" is more prevalent and dangerous (in terms of welfare and society, not physically dangerous - though that might be true too, I don't know) than other forms, so that's what people focus on.

4chan is a snapshot of 14-28 year olds (those numbers pulled out of my flatulent, prolapsed asshole); everyone gets a bullhorn and a mask. Racism is a big topic that everyone is at least familiar with. Every black kid thinks he'd be doing amazing things with his life if not for his great-great-great-great grandpa being a slave and every white kid thinks he is targetted by over-compensation and so-called "reverse-racism" because he didn't get into his top choice for college.

Everybody has something to say about it. Including me and my prolapsed asshole.

Most users of 4chan are young middle class white American males. If this assumption is correct, then you may have part of the answer.

Hey, another liberal circle jerk.

>>4199485
They were fired because they weren't working well. And then the government forced them to hire more blacks because we had to "make up" for enslaving them hundreds of years ago.

If all races were treated equally, the government wouldn't prosecute racism.

I used to hate racism. Then I actually encountered niggers. I realized a lot of what racists said was right, and the stuff I had been told before was mostly hippy bullshit.

>>4199391
Lol, according to revleft racism against whites is impossible and is only a thing a fascist nazi will insist.

Only prejudice dude, and prejudice is human so no problem with white hating

>>4199086
I'm the real thing. Here there are actually people that agree with me or at least pretend to.

>>4199533

Hardly. The government "forced them to hire more blacks" (an amazing misinterpretation, but whatever, let's go with it) because population studies show that in many areas there are more whites in certain jobs than you would expect, based on the population and the number of blacks estimated to attempt for these jobs.

If you (here goes my asshole again) have 1000 white and 200 blacks, and you know that 10% of the whites want to be a cop and 10% of the blacks want to be a cop (based on studies), you would expect to find 100 white cops and 20 black cops, or some equal multiple thereof based on job availability. If instead you found 110 white cops and 10 black cop you might say "gee, it seems like whites are being unfairly preferred" and you, as a responsible government, step in to hopefully make things more fair for everyone.

Now in reality, what sometimes happens is the seargent goes "shit, we have 110 whites and 10 blacks and here comes the governor... fire those 10 white dudes and hire the first 10 black dudes that sign up". Sometimes you end up filling gaps with black idiots because you're looking to make things look good on paper.

Of course in theory, if you play things fair all along, this is never a problem. When you hear of stories like this happening ("I lost my job to a black high school drop-out") it usually means the boss was an idiot and rather than actually investigate and fix the problem, wanted to make things look good on paper.

Of course all of this depends on (at least) the assumption that blacks and whites are equally proficient in the fields they desire to be a part of. I don't see any reason to doubt that - we're all just chimpanzees folks.

My racism is more than a pose. I own a house with a two rentals attached, and I don't rent to blacks or hispanics.

Neither will anyone else in our neighborhood. We like it that way, and we'll keep it up as long as we can. The real estate market is still relatively strong in our area, so there's plenty of applicants to choose from.

>>4199581
I just got jumped and beaten up by a group of black teenagers a week ago. At first I was really angry, and wanted to believe that all the bad shit I'd heard about them were true, that the faith I'd had in the general goodness of people had been betrayed and I was justified in saying "fuck it" to black people. I don't think I can do that, though. I still think people are generally good. They just have fists. Or are ignorant fucktards. I want to believe that if they got a chance to get to know me, though, they wouldn't want to do the things they did.

>>4199657
Niggers are less educated and have lower intelligence and are therefore usually less qualified. Picking cotton and hunting tigers matches their skill sets better.

>>4199718
Well, uh, hope no one finds out, cuz that's, uh, discrimination. Hope you get your ass sued.

Jealousy and fear. Can we all go home now?

>>4199730
>Rednecks are less educated and have lower intelligence and are therefore usually less qualified. Fucking their sisters and being afraid of change matches their skill sets better.

>>4199739
Pretty much yes. Also, you'd have a hard time proving anything. Last time I had a rental turn over was two years ago. I had over 20 people come to look at it in the first 24 hours after I put up an ad. A lot of Mexicans, but I chose a nice white couple. You don't need to tell anyone why you chose them, or didn't.

As Hannibal Lecter once said "People don't always tell you what they're thinking, they just see to it you don't advance in life."

>>4199718
Can't blame you. At my apartment building all the problems come from the nigger, spic, and paki tenants.

>>4199739
How does someone "find out"? You think some fucking racial equality group is gonna setup a sting on him and his neighbors because they got reports from minorities that whitey won't rent to the spics or niggers? Its his property, he chooses who he wants to live on it. I personally would do the same, I haven't met any responsible black and spanish people who I would feel would respect my property, especially if they know that they are just borrowing the property.

Racism is a joke on 4chan for me and my fellow honkies because there's a weird social disconnect about it.

Consciously I know that racial discrimination is bullshit and I resist it. People have differences due to culture, but nobody is naturally more capable or "better" because of skin color.

Subconsciously I've been told all my life that I'm on the top of the food chain. Since I was a little white baby the TV marketed everything to people who looked like me, and black people were the "funky" friends of main characters. I can cruise through life barely being aware of my race and how it affects my career, my reputation, etc. And I've been force fed tons of stereotypes and epithets to use about black people's behavior.

So even though I know it's bullshit, that doesn't stop me from having a politically incorrect thought if I see some thugged out black dude on the subway yelling into his Nextel. The guy could be awesome and brilliant and all that, but in a millisecond my subconscious has already labelled him before my brain catches up to check my assumptions.

So what the hell can you do about that? Hating myself for being fed all these stereotypes doesn't do much good. I know my own brain is bringing up bullshit I disagree with, but you can't really stop it.

So you just have to laugh it off, and how idiotic the whole thing is--that your brain disagrees with itself. So on 4chan you just let that subconscious redneck out to play because you know it's just entertaining bullshit.

>>4199753
And police don't hire as many rednecks either.

>>4199769
Well, you can watch for patterns, and what the landlords do and say. People don't level accusations like that willy-nilly because, unlike just shouting, "YOU'RE RACIST!" this is something that's gonna cost time and money to fight. Thankfully, people who are stupid enough to discriminate are also stupid enough to do something that gives it away.

Example: I went to a restaurant once that had a racist owner or waiter or whatever. Thought it was just a misunderstanding that people were walking in and out while I was waiting to be seated and then served, but a remark from a waiter pretty much made it obvious. Complained to the owner, filed a complaint with the area BBB.

>>4199777
Wow. A look inside the doublethink of a liberal's brain.

It isn't pretty folks.

>>4199800
So business owners don't get to decide who they sell to?

>>4199121
niggers, kikes and spics
adolf hitler

>>4199768

I think what you meant is "Minorities are more visible to me than people that look like me and so my natural confirmation bias picks them up as trouble-makers instead of noticing the whites doing the exact same thing."

Don't worry, it's typical of under-educated folks. You'll either grow out of it when you go to college and realize that the world has more than just whites in it or you'll vote Republican. Or you'll live in a trailer for the rest of your life. (Wait, I already said "vote Republican" ;) )

>>4199777
Well, at least you're honest.

Actually, as a black person, I've been surprised to find myself thinking "things" about Jews and hispanics. This is especially distressing since I've never had an incident or anything that would make me think like that. It's just like it's an undertone that pervades culture here and eventually it worms your way into your subconscious. It's kinda sad, really. I'd like to think that I could at least tolerate people around me without calling them out of their name.

>>4199086

Who uses 4chan? Weeaboos.

What are weeaboos? Total rejects, complete losers, they sit around watching Japanese cartoons whining about how their waifu doesn't exist IRL.

What does this mean? It means any place where you get a bunch of pathetic losers and dregs of society you'll find unpopular, stupid opinions on anything and everything.

>>4199808

Honesty usually isn't pretty.

I'm glad your world is wrapped up with a neat little bow.

>>4199828
Restrictions are within reason. Why wouldn't you want my money if I eat my meal quietly (or even with a tolerable level of noise, if with friends) and don't cause any trouble, just because of the color of my skin? *I want to give you my money.*

>>4199875
Black people don't tip.

sotrueit'sbeensaidalreadyblock

>>4199834
I do go to college. Being surrounded by various mud races is what made me hate them in the first place.

>>4199834
I know when college came around I felt enlightened(not to sound like a douche) and I voted Democrat. They really are looking out for the interests of the people.

>>4199828

In general, yes they do. When it comes to housing however - specifically rental properties - there are controls in place to try and prevent undue abuse by asshats.

Fundamentally it stems from the fact that land is a natural resource and thus to some extent the government has a responsibility it its use. The government has similar controls in broadcast media (the wavelengths are a 'natural' resource of a kind) and publicly owned facilities such as libraries, courthouses, etc., amongst other things.

>>4199875
Not being around a nigger is well worth the cost of not having their business.

>>4199904

Douchebag alert at red!

Whether or not the Democrats are doing more good than the Republicans at managing social inequality is debatable. I would say the Democrats at least try, while the Republicans are fairly open about being pro-"white land-owning male ruling class".

Compared to more developed and socially aware nations, America is ass-backwards. We still have a large percentage of the population that is afraid to death of anybody who has a darker skin tone, talks with a funny accent, or likes to put his dick in butts.

Personally I don't get it. Oh noes, the lawn mower missed a spot - all Mexicans are lazy! Quick, post on 4chan! Say something about how you hate fags too!

Some people just need to chill.

>>4199121
>ggs
>jared diamond

>>4199904
Obvious troll is obvious.

Democrats don't "vote Democrat". Republicans call the Democratic party by an abbreviation because their thick, twangy drawl can't handle too many syllables.

>>4199943
I love how this book is always cited by leftists like it's the final word on the subject.

>>4199845

Yeah, that's exactly it. I get frustrated too, because I've never had an interaction with a black person that would reinforce stereotypes (except for being better than me at dancing, hurr hurr). So the fact that shit still pops into my head is irritating.

The funny thing is that it usually doesn't for Southeast Asians and Indians, who are often just as dark skinned as black folks. And I think that's only because our society doesn't feed you nearly as many stereotypes about them.

>>4199972
Enlighten me. What's the problem with GGS? Advanced intro Anthropology courses in college use it as an introductory textbook.

>>4199972

I thought that image was a reference to the Bible and conservatives :/

>>4199086
>faked for the lulz

While you may like to tell yourself this to preserve your little bubble of egalitarian delusions, the reality is that people are more free to express their true feelings on 4chan because they aren't tied down to an account or identity.

On other sites people have to worry about militant leftists having them banned for expressing their views. And in real life speaking your mind can have a variety of punishments, such as losing your job, getting your car and house firebombed by leftists, getting hit in the face with a hammer by leftists, or even being imprisoned by left-wing governments for speech crimes.

>>4200018

afraid of hippies lol

>>4200018

Yes, because historically social liberals are known to burn down people's homes for things such as holding undesirable opinions or having the wrong skin color.

Oh wait.

I mean seriously... a conservative being afraid of violence from the pro-tolerance camp? I guess next you'll say that it was the civil rights campaigners that really lynched all those folks in Alabama, right?

>>4199989
>What's the problem with GGS?

Diamond does not give his readers the whole truth and nothing but the truth. In fact, he gives them much less. Inexcusably for an evolutionary biologist, Diamond fails to inform his readers that it is different environments that cause, via natural selection, biological differences among populations. All of the Eurasian developments he described created positive feedback loops selecting for increased intelligence and various personality traits (e.g., altruism, rule-following, etc.).

Racial differences in brain size and IQ map very closely to the same cultural histories Diamond explains. Although Diamond dismisses such research as "loathsome", he fails to tell his readers what, if anything, might be scientifically wrong with any of it. One hundred years of research has established that East Asians and Europeans average higher IQs than do Africans. East Asians, measured in North America and in Pacific Rim countries, typically average IQs in the range of 101 to 111. Caucasoid populations in North America, Europe, and Australasia typically average IQs from 85 to 115 with an overall mean of 100. African populations living south of the Sahara, in North America, in the Caribbean, and in Britain typically have mean IQs from 70 to 90.

Discoveries using Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI), which creates a three-dimensional image of the living brain, have shown a strong positive correlation (.44) between brain size and IQ (see Rushton & Ankney, 1996, for a review). And there is more. The National Collaborative Perinatal Project on 53,000 children by Sarah Broman and her colleagues, showed that head perimeter at birth significantly predicts head perimeter at 7 years -- and head perimeter at seven years predicts IQ. It also shows that Asian children average a larger head perimeter at birth than do White children who average a larger head perimeter than do Black children.

>>4200018

Also, did you seriously suggest that opinions expressed on 4chan are MORE legitimate than those expressed anywhere else?

Well then. Hi, welcome to 4chan, let me show you how this works...

It was originally completely false, like everything else. You see, it started on /b/, which used to be all a front of ignorance and stupidity, done by intelligent people. Basically, a place to just pretend and enjoy the ignorance that they were unable to actually experience in real life. Eventually, it was corrupted when more and more idiots, underaged users, and all around faggots joined. Then, it became 'real' as people tried to fit in, and just led to a whole bunch of stupid shit that ended up with most of 4chan being ruined.

>>4199989
>>What's the problem with GGS? (cont.)

Racial differences in brain size have been established using a variety of modern methods. Using endocranial volume, for example, Beals et al. (1984, p. 307, Table 5) analyzed about 20,000 skulls from around the world. East Asians averaged 1,415 cm3 , Europeans averaged 1,362 cm3, and Africans averaged 1,268 cm3 . Using external head measures to calculate cranial capacities, Rushton (1992) analyzed a stratified random sample of 6,325 U.S. Army personnel measured in 1988 for fitting helmets and found that Asian Americans averaged 1,416 cm3, European Americans 1,380 cm3, and African Americans 1,359 cm3. Finally, a recent MRI study found that people of African and Caribbean background averaged a smaller brain volume than did those of European background (again see Rushton & Ankney, 1996, for review).

As discussed in Herrnstein and Murray's (1994) The Bell Curve, and Rushton's (1995) Race, Evolution, and Behavior, the heritability of intelligence is now well established from numerous adoption, twin, and family studies. Particularly noteworthy are the genetic contributions of around 80% found in adult twins reared apart. And most transracial adoption studies provide evidence for the heritability of racial differences in IQ. For instance, Korean and Vietnamese children adopted into white American and white Belgian homes were examined in studies by E.A. Clark and J. Hanisee, by M. Frydman and R. Lynn, and by M. Winick et al. Many had been hospitalized for malnutrition. But they went on to develop IQs ten or more points higher than their adoptive national norms. By contrast, the famous Minnesota Transracial Adoption Study marked black/white differences emerged by age 17 even though the black children had been reared in white middle-class families (Weinberg, Scarr & Waldman, 1992).

>>4199989
>What's the problem with GGS? (cont. again)

Although Diamond (pp. 38-40) acknowledges the accumulating evidence in favor of the "Out-of-Africa" theory of human origins that Homo sapiens arose in Africa 200,000 years ago, expanded beyond Africa in an African/non-African split about 110,000 years ago, and then migrated east in a European/East Asian split about 40,000 years ago, he refuses to acknowledge any relationship between this evolutionary sequence and the parallel ranking of Africans, Europeans, and East Asians in brain size and other behavioral traits. Nor does he tell his readers that evolutionary selection pressures were different in the hot savanna where Africans evolved than in the cold Arctic where East Asians evolved.

>>4199121
Shit. I missed this at first. Guns Germs and steel in a debate around racism is like some kind of Godwins law.

>>4199722
Hey bro, I got jumped by a bunch of niggers last few months ago. I went through the whole phase like you did too and still trying to recover from my paranoia of walking in the street. Personally, I never had much beefs with black people since my best friend is a half black half filipino and I never go out of my way to avoid black kids in school. But shits happen and I also am living in an area where black grade schoolers have been growing up (in size but i doubt in brain) into high schoolers and think that they're the kings of da hood now.

Tough luck for me, I'm just another Asian chink that is easy target for any nigga. Actually, everytime when I'm jumped or almost got jumped, it's always a gang of 5+ niggers. Is it too much of a coincidence? my 2 cents.

>>4199943
But think of Jared's beautiful neckbeard! Bathe in it's glory!

>>4200067

OMG, you mean that white people score higher on IQ tests (that were designed [by white people] to assess your usefulness to Eurocentric culture)?

Say it ain't so.

>>4200064
>for things such as holding undesirable opinions

A British National Party (BNP) member was attacked with a hammer when protesters arrived at a campaign event in Greater Manchester.

Officers arrived at the pub to discover the BNP's trailer had been overturned, said a police spokesman.

One witness told BBC News: "They had hammers and they smacked the vehicle to pieces, smashed all the windows and tore off the bumper, completely decimated it.

"I was shocked at what I saw."

The debate over racial traits is an old troll. Not since "The Bell Curve" was there any real discussion over it. Geneticists, no matter how they vote, know that race is non-existant. There happen to be some genes, the effects of which are more visible than others and unsurprisingly when populations breed together for thousands of years those traits isolate to those populations.

It's even more ridiculous because the traits people use to distinguish "race" are ones that have no impact outside of looks: hair type, color, eye shape, etc. I mean, you COULD use things like disease susceptibility genes to label people... and that might be more valid from a biological standpoint as it has some meaning in terms of survival. But eye shape? Seriously, that's what you think makes a difference? C'mon.

>>4199989
Aren't you going to respond to >>4200067 >>4200080 >>4200087 ? Or did your anthropology course leave out the principles of scientific enquiry and simply tell you that GGS is 100% fact and all you need to do is memorise it.

>>4200114
>it's always a gang of 5+ niggers
Yep, it always is. Niggers always hunt in packs.

>>4200133

My rebuttal: 200+ years of violence by social conservatives in the American south against anybody not white and straight.

An anecdote about some assholes doing exactly what their party preaches against does not equate to "omg the left is militant".

I wouldn't call myself racist. I live in a country where 99% of the population is white and seeing black people isn't common. However the ones I HAVE encountered all seem to be the stereotypical wannabe gangsta nigger who believes that the white man is out to get them and oppress them, and think that they live in the USA. They are so fucking stupid it's beyond belief. Those are the black people I hate. Why can't there be black people who aren't fucking blind to their own actions and realize why everyone hates them. They can't talk, they can't fucking dress, they think it's "cool" to shoot people and steal their shit and then they act all fucking surprised when people are pissed off at them. That's not fucking racism. I'd hate anyone who did that, black, white, asian etc. Black people are more prejudice than white people and it's their own fucking fault that white people don't like them.

>>4200128
IQ tests don't test usefulness to eurocentric society. Where did you get that ridiculously incorrect bit of propoganda?

>>4200064
>pro-tolerance camp?

What Dr. Lahn told his audience was that genetic changes over the past several thousand years might be linked to brain size and intelligence. He flashed maps that showed the changes had taken hold and spread widely in Europe, Asia and the Americas, but weren't common in sub-Saharan Africa.

The 37-year-old Dr. Lahn says his research papers, published in Science last September, offered no view on race and intelligence. He personally believes it is possible that some populations will have more advantageous intelligence genes than others. And he thinks that "society will have to grapple with some very difficult facts" as scientific data accumulate. Yet Dr. Lahn, who left China after participating in prodemocracy protests, says intellectual "police" in the U.S. make such questions difficult to pursue.

>>4200128
lol then explain how Asians score higher than whites on a test designed by whites?

AZN PRIDE

>>4200177
Ah, I forgot the title:

Scientist's Study Of Brain Genes Sparks a Backlash

... from the so called "pro-tolerance" crowd!

>>4200064
>burn down people's

Police are investigating a suspected fire bomb near the home of a man whose details were on a list of BNP members published on the internet.


The 26-year-old man left the BNP in 2007 but his personal details were among 12,000 other names on a contact list kept by the far-right party.

He is self employed and has a young son. He was not at home when the explosion occurred.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/bnp-list-linked-to-firebomb-attack-1029893.html

>>4200175
Because in Africa, math isn't important. Language skills aren't important. In fact, logic isn't important. All that matters is how well you can bend and bow to the revolving dictator door, all while complaining about how the europeans fucked your culture over.

You poor westerners and your imperialist heritage. Know that blacks are just your other, as they say, and that rote biologist theories completely ignore certain findings which prove that the Sahara was never much of an obstacle in human transmigration, and that many a European can have god knows which genes.

>>4200133

The right is just a fearful bunch of sissies who get all butthurt when someone gives them a taste of their own medicine.

Aw, buppy got hit. Nevermind that the right consistently votes for trade agreements and subsidies that keep workers around the world poor, sick, powerless, and dying young every day. We should all be concerned for some rich British cuntwad with a boo-boo.

>>4200177

I get that you're grasping for the few remaining examples, but really man, you're arguing with years of science. Not people, not opinions, but studies and facts. Sometimes its time to recognize that you're wrong, even when one study in 100 says you're right.

The great thing about science is that it's repeatable, and scientists fucking LOVE being right... especially when it flies in the face of modern convention. And doubly so when it's controversial - that shit sells books. Another study that confirms that race is all perception doesn't get you any new grant money - nobody cares about that shit anymore.

Unfortunately (for you) that's not really a question anymore. Race is a well settled topic and has been for some time and study after study, except for the occasional outlier, confirms it.

Why not focus on some of the open questions in the fields of genetics and demographics? There's plenty out there. But honestly, race isn't one of them, and hasn't been for some time.

>>4200064
>known to burn down people's homes

Following the release of the names, addresses and contact details of
some 29,000 racists, fascists, thugs, Nazis and children-killing vermin
up and down this great nation, let's show these scumbags that they will
not be tolerated!!!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=97304215365

What's with the two BNP examples supposed to show that people against social equality are a punch of peacenicks and people for social equality are violent?

Is that how we work now - we ignore data and go for anecdotes? Or did someone get lost on the way to /b/?

All violence towards members of the BNP is totallly justified. No questions about it. Would you complain if someone attacked a Nazi? Same thing.

Also lotta racists in this thread.

>>4200238
But I presume that most of us here are talking about niggas in America, whom have little needs to use bows and primitive tools. Also, it shouldn't matter where you live in the world, you are still going to need some education and language skills to communicate and do useful shits in the long term.

>>4200238
>All that matters is how well you can bend and bow to the revolving dictator door, all while complaining about how the europeans fucked your culture over.

Oh I hate these Anglo-Saxons arrogantly overlooking the complex weave of imperialism and the way it has completely transformed politics and culture in the colonized world. Not to speak of post-colonial trauma, the centralizing workings of capitalism, and its frequent crises. But it's alright, your culture has never gone through a violent egalitarian revolution to make it observe itself and the world from a distance, you are like children compared to the societies which have been subjected to historic turbulence recently. You intrinsically understand less about world culture than I do, hailing from the eastern bloc, as it were.

>>4200303

Yes, or you're a hypocrite.

Succumbing to "but they're _____ so it's ok!" is a hallmark of social conservatives, and has been used to defend killing blacks, killing gays, killing non-christians, killing serfs, etc.

>>4199086 mootblock
Racists attempt to claim that certain races are either inferior or superior to other races.

The Bible disagrees. The Bible says "you are all one in Christ Jesus".

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, neither slave nor free, neither male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." (Galatians 3:28)

"...ye are all one..." (Galatians 3:28).

>>why [is racism] so prevalent[?]
(1.) Racism is a sin...As long as human beings are consumed by their pride and arrogance, racism will never go away. (In other words, we're stuck with it until Christ comes back.)
(2.) If you're asking for a sociological answer to why racism is so prevalent, then I might be able to help you as well...but I am certainly not educated on the study of human societies, so please do not hold me accountable for any mistakes that I may make in my reasoning...Now then:

The 1st why racism is so prevalent is because of stereotypes. People naturally document and categorize what they see. For example, if you see a black man rob a liquor store, you'll probably say "wow that was scary".

But if you see it again and again and again, you may say to yourself "what is it with black people? Don't they have any standards?"

Now admittedly, black people do have a significantly higher crime rate than whites, and this is significant because blacks make up a much smaller percentage of the population.

>>4200303
>Would you complain if someone attacked a Nazi?
Yes. Holding a belief does not entitle anyone to use violence against you

>>4200325
Way to ignore the entire old testament, hypocrite.

>>4200260
>you're arguing with years of science

Several decades ago, most experts, among them even Jensen, believed many of the views that the media now wrongly describe as mainstream - for example, that cultural bias accounts for the large black-white differences in mental test scores. While the private consensus among IQ experts has shifted to meet Jensen's "controversial" views, the public impression of their views has not moved at all. Indeed, the now-refuted claim that tests are hopelessly biased is treated as a truism in public life today. The shift in private, if not public, beliefs among IQ experts is undoubtedly a response to the overwhelming weight of evidence which has accumulated in recent decades on die reality and practical importance of racial-ethnic differences in intelligence. This shift is by all indications a begrudging one, and certainly no flight into "racism."

http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994egalitarianfiction.pdf

>>4200305
Right, but America apparently is Euro-centric. I'm just saying that most of the civilized world can be considered euro-centric, with africa being one of the many exceptions. Africa-centric would clearly be an infeasible alternative =)

>>4200317

NO BUT ANN COULTER SAID BLACKS ARE DUMB?!

There, just giving you the counterpoint you're sure to expect.

Of course it's more complicated, you're preaching to the choir here. Social conservatives just don't care. They see darker shades of skin and they freak out - "jesus didn't tell me what to do about THIS!". An under-educated people, unprepared for the world beyond their midwestern community. All of sudden they're on the big bad Interweb and gosh, that man sure is tan, ma!

>>4200260
>Race is a well settled topic

The topology of human trees (Figs. 4, 5) is remarkably consistent regardless of which class of loci are considered, and principal component analysis of genetic data also produces predictable clustering (Fig. 6). Either method gives a good visual overview of the general relatedness of the world's populations.

By analysis of classical markers, Nei & Roychoudhury (1993) identified five major human clades: sub-Saharan Africans, Caucasians, Greater Asians, Australopapuans and Amerindians. Evolutionary trees constructed with autosomal RFLPs,[105] microsatellites[106] and Alu insertions[107] show similar topology. Frequently, Amerindians are grouped together with Asians, indicating four major clades, and it has been suggested that this should be a minimum.[108] Obviously, additional structure exists within each of these groups, but as we've seen, it's generally weak compared to the differentiation among the ones listed here. For this reason alone, the term 'race' applies well to these major groupings.

105. Nei and Takezaki 1996. p173.
106. Bowcock et al. 1994. p457.
107. Stoneking, M., Fontius, J.J., Clifford, S.L., Soodyall, H., Arcot, S.S., Saha, N., Jenkins, T., Tahir, M.A., Deininger, P.L., Batzer, M.A. 1997. Alu Insertion Polymorphisms and Human Evolution: Evidence for a Larger Population Size in Africa. Genome Research 7:1061-1071.
108. Wright 1978. p439.

>>4200350
I've never once seen a racist cite Ann Coulter on here to back up their point.

>>4200325 mootblock
~~~PART 2/2~~~
This brings me to the 2nd reason why racism might be so prevalent: because certain people perpetuate their own racial stereotypes, and they are proud of it too.

For example, Gangster Rap...That's right, I said it. Go ahead, watch a gangster rap music video...Just choose one at random.

Chances are, you're going to be subjected to images of (but not limited to) alcohol, whores, drugs, robbery, crime, hatred for the police, murder, misogyny, etc.

All a racist person has to do is turn on MTV or Comedy Central or something and they are instantly subjected to people who gladly and proudly perpetuate their own stereotypes.

And it's not just black people who perpetuate their own stereotypes...There are members of every race who perpetuate stereotypes.

And stereotypes aren't always bad anyway...Sometimes a stereotype is just a result of the person's culture, and therefore is not wrong at all.

Anyway, the final reason why racism is so prevalent is simple:
Pride, arrogance, and godlessness.

No true Christian can look at a black person and say "God made that person in an inferior way. God made me better than He made that person."

Anyway, I hope this helped.

I remember when FYAD posters on the SA forums broke the racism taboo and started using "nigger" like it was the funniest thing in the world.

>>4200361

Sigh. Some research done during study hall does not make you competent to debunk what is, beyond your view, fact.

You should think about enrolling in a sociology class with a genetics bent when you start college; you might be surprised to learn something!

>>4200348
there is no uncivilized world and there are no exceptions to the orientation towards the old colonial, market centres. One global market means one global culture, on a really superficial scale.

>>4200064
>burn down people's homes for things such as holding undesirable opinions

One loud self-identified Indian, who seemed to smell of Aqua Vela, was screaming from behind his covered face, that he was going to kill the free speech supporters. Then, another ARAer, grabbed the microphone and started a chant that said: "Paul Fromm - liar liar we are going to set your ass on fire". Strangely, the officers on the scene did not considered this a death threat. This curious kid gloves treatment was similar to the police turning a blind eye in 1995 when the ARA was putting out posters on how to firebomb Zundel's house. Months later someone firebombed Zundel's house, and no charges have ever been laid against anyone. Surprise surprise? Among the screeching females in the ARA ranks was one masked woman who sported a hat with a large communist red star.

http://www.rense.com/general54/zuznd.htm

Yo, leftards, any of you want to prove that race means nothing, as you love claiming? Because if you can't prove it, why do you say it with such confidence?

>>4200404
You'll be waiting a while.

>>4200404

Yo, it's widely considered fact, outside of 4chan. Yo.

Engaging in debate over whether or not it's correct is to lend credibility to those who would ignore the scientific concensus and rely instead on anecdotes and rare or questionable research and personal (in)experience.

Yo.

>>4200064
> liberals are known to burn down people's homes

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It's a shame southerners were so lazy and brought niggers into the US. We'd be much better off without them.

>>4200431
God is widely considered to exist.

Besides, you could always take a course. It's not like the information is hidden or something. Any college course at any decent institution will tell you the same thing, and more eloquently than anyone could express in a 4chan post.

I recommend that anybody who is interested in it take a formal course in the subject. Relying on anecdotes online and references to dubious texts is not a good idea, from a self-betterment perspective.

But you have to be honest with yourself - are you really looking to learn? Or just confirm what your Sunday School teacher tells you?

>>4200404
You just need to learn to understand their thought process.

See attached pic.

>>4200469
If I went by what my sunday school teachers told me, I would love niggers like my brothers, not hate them like the filthy animals they are.

As a basementdweller using the internets as a crutch and recreational drug, I have to say that I don't know anything anymore. My fingers type racist slurs, anarchist bullshit and new agey faggotry but deep down I know that I have no life experience whatsoever to back up these hollow phrases. I've noticed how easy it is to get and discuss an opinion with random strangers after all it's just real life meme spewing with a bit of etiquette. It's easy because its just words, obliging you to nothing but grammar and the etiquette of social conduct.
Convictions however, are forged in the bitter process of error and trail resulting in absolute, yet simple truths that cannot be discussed. t
I say lol damn sandniggers cospiring with mah guvnment sappin my enlightenment but that's just the vain ramblings of an idle mind.

HAHAHA PENIS

>>4200469
It's funny how liberals don't realize the only difference between them and Christians is a belief in God.

>>4200431
In other words, you have no proof whatsoever, and you will believe in anti-racism like it is your religion.

>>4200114
>everytime when I'm jumped or almost got jumped, it's always a gang of 5+ niggers. Is it too much of a coincidence?

No coincidence at all, my squinty-eyed friend.

>>4200476
Then why is all respected social science from the 50s onwards at least vaguely leftist? Because rightists refuse to discuss problems and instead choose to arbitrarily value them based on existing relations of power and submission.

>>4200334
I believe God shitpwned that bitch who disagreed with Moses marrying an Ethiopian woman.

>>4200517
It is vaguely leftist because leftism is popular, even among scientists. That is why most scientists do not investigate the differences between races.

>>4200495
>>4200501
no, it is just that leftists choose to believe in idioms such as society, culture, history, geography and circumstance, while the authoritarian mind can understand nothing else than culpability, power and submission.

I Beleive, and please consider this no matter how retarted i think it is sometimes.

1.Black people pigment, is the cause of solar radiation, whatever(kinda like how your skin can become orange if you eat carrots)
2.HUMANS are scared of what they dont know
3. White humans in the 1500s never seen blacks much
4.Whites in the 1500s were retarted(so were niggers)
5.White people, probably(psychologically) associated Darker skinned races With the Dark(Like night) and the "secrets" it held that scared them for centuries.

-o.k i'm racist.(lol j/k)

>>4200334 ReadTheBibleBeforeYouMakeUneducatedStatementsBlock
Pic related, my brother. I will surely be muted should I attempt to type it again.

Also, since I'm confident you're not going to actually read a Bible any time soon, why don't you just check out this cool link:
http://www.gotquestions.org/old-testament.html

In summation, it is not I who is the hypocrite, but is instead you who is the hypocrite, because you attacked me out of ignorance and foolishness, rather than actual religious practicality or Christian morality.

Either way, I forgive you for calling me a hypocrite (which was only wrong because it was done needlessly and ignorantly).

>>4200544
Vaguely leftist because it's been shown that the more educated a person is, the farther left they are. Interpret that as you wish.

>>4200553
Right wingers believe in history and culture too you jerkoff. And how exactly is believing in genetic differences between groups of humans authoritarian? Last time I recalled, the USSR killed more people than Hitler.

>>4200553
Leftism is nothing but authoritarian.

>>4200575 The education system is leftist controlled. Of course it's going to produce leftists.

>>4200517
Read: Gottfredson, L. S. (1994). Egalitarian fiction and collective fraud. Society, 31(3), 53-59. (>>4200340)

>No wonder, then, that IQ researchers find themselves under great professional and institutional pressure to avoid not only engaging in such scrutiny but even appearing to countenance it. The scrutiny itself must be discredited; the egalitarian fiction must be raised above serious scientific question. Scientists must at least appear to believe the dogma. As was the case in Havel's communist-dominated Eastern Europe, in American academe feigned belief in the official version of reality is maintained largely by routine obeisance of academics as they pursue their own ambitions.

>Scholars realize their scholarly ambitions primarily through other scholars. Peer recognition is the currency of academic and scientific life. It is crucial to a scholarly reputation and all the steps toward status and success - publications, professional invitations and awards, promotion, tenure, grants, fellowships, election to professional office, appointment to prestigious panels. One's ability even to carry out certain kinds of research, funded or not, may be contingent upon peer recognition and respect - for instance, getting collaborators, subjects, or cooperation from potential research sites. Just as in personal life, a high professional reputation depends upon a sustained history of "appropriate" behavior, and it may be irreparably damaged by hints of scandal or impropriety. Similarly, the reputations of scientists and their organizations are enhanced or degraded by those for whom they show regard and approval. Associating oneself with highly regarded individuals or ideas enhances, even if slightly, one's own status.

>>4200575
Could that be a sign that one leads to the other in the sense of a kind of natural and logical evolution, or in the sense that the intellectual culture leans that way and reinforces itself by indoctrinating new members into the idiology?

Racism?

ohhhhhhh you mean just hating niggers (so yes racism)

i dont care about any other race at all - they're fine by me

i just hate niggers - whow boy i hate niggers - and by niggers i mean all niggers - dont give me this black people crap

niggers niggers niggers

they are the inferior scum of the earth - and there is no end of pleasure derived from reminding them of this

because their usual defense is always the "my cok is bigguh, duh...i git more gurls, duhhh, i bet im smartuh then u r! where u live fggt?"

and other assorted knuckle draggery

it's fun, free and easy

it's also genuine hatred

PS: It's also fun hearing guilt ridden white people defend them - my god - the defenses they come up with - while a little bit more intelligent - are still shit by any standards and usually fall back to the same brand of crap as those of the niggers

>>4200604
this is what anti-intelligence conservafags really believe.

I was never racist, I always gave people their fair shot no matter what their nationality or race. Then I was robbed by a black guy, $120 gone forever. Now, I'm still not racist but I do realize that many stereotypes tend to be based off of some truth.

>>4200632
It's like sending a kid to be educated at a Mosque and being surprised when he comes out a Muslim.

>>4200645
I'm not anti-intelligence, trollbro. Leftism is far more common in universities than rightism, as evidenced by the prevalence of Cultural Marxist courses like Gender and Cultural Studies, and the infiltration of this ideology into other subjects like literature.

>>4200584

lol @ Stalin as leftist

>>4200648
This is the way to go about it. In any given American city, a black dude is more likely to rob you than a white dude. It's just a fact of life. The issue is when you assume a black dude is gonna rob you because he's black (as opposed to being black, acting shady, putting a knife to your throat). If a white dude is doing the second, and you're just as wary, congrats, you are being realistic and not prejudiced.

>>4200639
Aaaand this is why I assume middle schoolers are stupid. Underageb&, GTFO.

>>4200727
Stalin was a leftist, if an extreme one. Lenin, killer of many, was a leftist for certain. Next you'll be denying that Robespierre and Marat were leftists.

>>4200727
Stalin was left, Brosef.

So was Trofim Denisovich Lysenko. A true leftist bro who was responsible for the deaths and imprisonment of hundreds of scientists for doing Politically Incorrect research into genetics.

>>4200743
*sigh*

god this guy sounds like such a douchebag it's practially giving me a headache

Can I get a check on the libfag status in this thread?

[]told
[]not told

>>4200847
>libfag status

[><]told

Wait, what exactly is wrong with killing capitalists, counter-revolutionaries, and other oppressors of the people?

>>4200847
>libfag status

[x]extremely told

lol, niggars

teenage anxiety causing rapid progression of memes (in order to build rapport), coupled with preconditioned conceptions of humour (as mentioned earlier, shock humour is prevalent in cartoons) which is taken into more mature topics as an attempt to seem mature.

I think the question is why aren't more people racist?

The majority of people have no understanding of cultural relativism, so how can they reason that peoples with such an 'inferior' (id est. different) culture could be equal to them?

The only reason it seems people aren't racist is because they are trying to be nice/don't want to cause any conflict.

>>4199086
THAT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A WAITING ROOM WHICH HAS COLOUR.

I wasn't racist.

Then I started browsing /r9k/.

Now I'm racist.

A lot of egalitarians will claim that advocating the notion of racial inequality is always just a figleaf for the idea that whites are superior.

How then, to explain the fact that racism against Asians (say, in Australia in the 19th century) and Jews was openly motivated by the fear that they were harder working and otherwise a threat to whites because of their superiority in many ways?

>>4200795
Stalin was leftist, but not liberal. He was a left-wing conservative. To be a liberal, you have to be open-minded and tolerant, otherwise you're just another conservative who happens to hold an opposing viewpoint.

Right-wing liberals are theoretically possible, but remarkably rare, and I think they're all libertarians.

For those who say that education has a liberal bias: I say unto you that it's reality that has a liberal bias.

I think that racism is saying "all niggers" this and "all niggers" that.

As cliche as it sounds, I know hard working, tax playing African-American people. Those are the people I actually refer to as "African -American". I also know some niggers...

When was the last time you saw nigger cp

Exactly

>>4202936
Liberal politics are populist; they appeal to the masses. The politics of the right espouse personal responsibility. The left tells you that you deserve bread and the right tells you that you have to work for bread. For a society build on immediate gratification, which side would be more appealing? That's how we got Barack-Rolled.

>>4202988
The left espouses personal responsibility as well; they also believe that people have a responsibility to society as a whole, whereas the right just wants everyone to be out for themselves.

Spiffing trolling today, m'boy.

>>4202964
That's because everyone knows that niggers prefer white women.

>>4202998
The intellectual left, maybe. Democratic voters, no.

>>4203031
Congratulations for knowing the nature of every single Democratic voter. You should be able to make money off of this.

>>4203045
http://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2

>>4203045
I'm gifted that way. I'm also gifted at sniffing out bullshit. If you think the Democratic "base" consists of a few professional students up east, you're wrong. If you think the Democratic base thought more about personal responsibility than bread and circuses, you're wrong.

>>4203075
As far as I can tell, the Democratic base consists of a bunch of people who don't hate gays (except obnoxious black socons) and who want the government to rein in corporations. The right wing spends just as much time pandering to the masses if not more so, but does so to their social prejudices.

Because your typical white trash male, driving around in his pick up drinking Coors Light and listening to country music is really just a scared and pathetic child. Insecure, inadequate, and uneducated. They use racism as a tool to make them selves feel more superior than they are, as the desperately attempt to hide the fact that they loath themselves for being bad sons, bad husbands, and bad fathers. Racism is all about being weak and afraid, and needing to make yourself into something you are not.
This means you, Don.

OP,

have you actually ever met a nigger?

Because it's hilarious.

Remember, 4chan is a website for trollan.

Why is it only white people being called racist in here? Are you filthy libfags saying only white people are racist? lol! You sissy libfags are the worst racists of all!

i just think the word 'nigger' is funny as fuck :s

>>4203173
OP here, I am a nigger.

...Er, black. I started this thread because of the incident mentioned here: >>4199143

Because racism pisses whiny faggots off.

I hope you guys realise asians are probably the most racist out of any groups that can be called racist

seriously

you ever met a fucking korean?

nightmare mode: a korean, in korea

WHO LET ALL THESE NIGGER LOVIN MYSPACE SCENE FAGGOTS ONTO MY 4CHANS?!

OP, you must be new here if you take anything said on 4chan serious

Why do libfags hate whites so much?

Someone needs to remind them that they are white too and should really stop with the self hating.

I'm sure it was cool when you were a rebellious teen but now it just makes you look pathetic .

Oh and btw You are not an oppressed minority. So stop whining like you are one

I got in trouble for this earlier, basically being openly racist because it's a load of shit, I take the piss out of it, but people who don't know that see it as racism.

In school kids get bullied for stupid hair, stupid dress sense stupid whatever, and we're told to just ignore it, yet if it involves skin color everyone gets up in arms and shit.

So frankly it's because people care so much about racism that it still exists. if niggers and whatever didn't play the "race" card when they get caught doing some shit wrong the world would be a better place.

Everyones so scared of words it's bullshit.