Oh boy, this looks like a totally intelligent and objective point for debate. Awesome!

>English is the most commonly spoken language among businesspeople around the world.

fixed bro

thats really all you can say.. gtfo with your "best"

Well, I agree 100%. C:

>list written in english
>video spoken in english
Granted these would both be appropriate if it's true, I still sense bias by default.

French- Je nay plooh fim et toi mon fe lay bonne.

German- OUSH DOYS LA SHMERE EVAEL SECK TIB

English- ???

Also, cool pic, guy.

>Chinese. Kanji.

lolwat?

SHIT TIER : Herbrew

have you ever head it? it sounds like the last raspings of a dying person

>>3985248
For what it's worth, english is the most universally spoken and reserved for the upperclass of society for non-english cultures.

Chinese is only popular in a very concentrated part of the world while English is popular across the globe.

>>3985277
Fucking seconded.

GOD TIER: ESPERANTO

>>3985268
You know, those 2000 or so characters that make up their language. The Japanese use them too, but not all of them. Shit sux.

SPOILERS: Languages are not inherently superior over another, all they are is mode of communication. People who prop up one language as better than another language are ignorant fags.

Oh yeah, and lol at English being "the best language". If you were learning it as a second language like I did, you'd pull your fucking hairs out memorising the shit-tonnes of irregular construction.

>>3985307
chinese characters aren't called kanji in chinese dumbshit

>>3985307
I just though it was fucking retarded to use the Japanese word for Chinese characters when talking about Chinese. "Characters" or "Hanzi" would have made a fuckton more sense.

>>3985314
Don't be so butthurt about it. I'm sure your native language is nice, but it just has flaws that keep it from being up at the God tier with English.

English is the language for the dummies. Easiest to learn.

>>3985324
It's a good thing we aren't typing in chinese, now isn't it?

>>3985355
I genuinely hate you people. 5/10.

forgot mah sage

gettingtrolledhardblox

>>3985346

harder =/= always better

Native English speaker here, I was thinking of learning Dutch. [y/n]?

>>3985379
oh god, you don't even know the purpose of sage or how to use it correctly. Just get away from your computer and don't come back until you can comprehend that sage does not lower a thread - it simply prevents your own post from bumping it.

trying to troll people over... languages? what? failblox for stupidity :|

Latin is not God Tier, so I disposed of your shitty list.

Germanic languages are emphasized for no particular reason. OP mostly rationalizes preference in terms of "of how things sound," which is preposterous if you have a native bias.

>>3985224
>Chinese
>Kanji
Ha ha ha oh wow

>>3985383

If you do read my post, I never said it was good or bad

>>3985336
SPOILER #2: Whether one language is better than another is purely subjective. Yeah, English has big prestige in the world, but you were talking about phoneme distribution and grammar, all of which should be studied descriptively. In all likelyness you're probably biased by English being your native language.

>>3985409
I know it doesn't lower the thread. It simply doesn't bump it.

But I wanted to make apparent my distaste for the trolling/ignorance in this thread.

also, sage

>>3985253
English: herp derp bwitoo shwang

It's shit for science/engineering because you have to invent new words often. Most of OP's "High Tier" are much better in this regard (with german being the primary language of science up to WW2, it can be extremely precise while being short.)
Also english spelling is somewhat irregular, "Ghoti" comes to mind

Languages have advances and disadvances, the more you speak the better.

>>3985413
Unfortunately, it's going to work. /r9k/ is the most easily trolled board I've ever been to.

Hey boys and girls, it's that time again, time for

ITT: Opinions!

>>3985436
As long as you keep wasting your time replying to this thread I am succeeding.

English is 'the best' language only because it has no qualms about adding new foriegn words, phrases or even structures, wholesale. This versatility in the language allows for a corresponding versatility in the thought patterns of the english speaker.

However, it is also true that while english is the most widely spoken second language, it's primary speakers have proven themselves to be extraordinarily resistant to learning a second language themselves.

I think the versatility in thought processes brought on by knowing more than a single language is much more useful than in knowing one of the most versatile languages.

English, thank goodness, has never suffered from the sort of artificial stifling of new components that French has. I am almost certain that French would be a much more important international language if the government just let go and allowed the laws of natural language selection apply to it once more.

>>3985466
i actually enjoy language threads a lot, im glad to see some more rational people have posted

You're missing many languages.
I will doubt your word until you can post this in every language you criticize.

romance languages > germanic languages

>Danish
>clear and distinct words
DOHOHOHOHO

>>3985485
yeah, for fags who want every word to end in E, O, or A.

How to speak Danish:
1) Shove cocks down your throat.
2) Speak.

>>3985277
fuck you and fuck OP.
Semitic languages have such a unique flow to them.

So who is currently learning what?

Mandarin Chinese myself.

>>3985540
I'm about to finish my last week of German at University. Maybe if I'd actually use it later on in life I'd continue studying but I don't see that happening.
Of course, that means learning a new language. I want to master Esperanto but that shouldn't take long so maybe I'll move onto French after that.

Japanese should be added to the list, below English.

It's surprisingly similar to English in a lot of respects, but it does fail hard for the pointless and society crushing politeness levels and the retarded writing system.

i think french sounds sexy

>>3985588
Also the keigo bullshit. This isn't the feudal era, faggots.

>>3985454

>advances and disadvances

lol :3

People who think their language is superior over other languages do not understand basic grammar of their own language or do not study other languages.

Each language has their own intricacies, their own illogical rules (English spelling, anyone). Only idiots say that one language is better than another.

>>3985585
visit krautchan often, try not to cringe too much because of oddly translated memes (actually could be a good learning experience if you manage to understand how they reached that translation)

What? Doesn't anyone else fucking love the Gummi Bears?

>>3985474
This is pretty much the best argument, to me at least, for English being Top Tier. I've always liked the way German sounds, although I've never spoken it myself so I guess I wouldn't really know. I'm learning Spanish right now. Shitsux, and the only reason I am is because I live in Arizona. Romance languages always sounded really shitty to me.

>>3985619
OH SHI- *facepalm*
thanks for pointing that out. looks like a good time to go to bed.

>>3985474
Sapir-Worf, beeeyatch!

>Kanji
Hanzi

The main thing about English that makes it superior to other languages is it's massive vocabulary. No other language has a vocabulary even nearly as large.

ok, clearly op is gay.
wtf english top tier lol, roxxor 1337, gtfo bitch, its like, yeah im from austria and my language is teh best bekause its so easy to learn, and it was spoken from guise like, you know those goethe dudes.. havent read them but they spoke german so i rokc!

but, ok, i like english its a smooth language.. but i like sweedish even more.. and french is a great language,it only sounds silly if you hear it from american comercials or from sarkozy.
german is gay, but just because im austrian, and someone has to tell those germans what german really is.. "Hau de ueba de Heisa mit da Glockn, oda i hau da ane indi Bappen das da vierzan dog da schaedl wogld!" lol
espanol is a fucking great language, they know how to speak, and portuguese is even better.. tudo bem, brasil style.
you fucker put arabic at last.. how comes? dumfuck. arabic is a nice language.. just because you connect it with bushthink doesnt mean this language is bad or with a hair in theyr throat.

but wtf are the people in india speaking, i like the melody of theyr language. they are jsut number 1.
it has something positive in it.

German is a horrible launguage. Horrible.

Also I dont know about english being the best...sometimes I just want to express myself in a way the good queens english doesnt allow.
So i just fap instead.

>>3985891
Chinese has about 10,000 characters each standing for one morpheme, and most of these aren't even used in daily speech. Just like the most obscure literary words in English force you to consult the OED to find out what the fuck they mean. What's your point?

god tier: japanese

>>3985926
I would argue it's probably an inability to express what you feel or not knowing what exactly it is you feel that causes this problem, not a limitation of the language itself. Pretty fucking complex ideas have been expressed through English.

GUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMIIIIII BEARSSSSSSSSS

I like how the French has to change the tune of the song.

>>3985925
oh wow... you sure haven't proven yourself a retard or anything...

And btw, they speak English in India. Hindi is dead.

>>3985925
Austrian language/music btw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wzuDr9VaFM

>>3985224
I speak both English and Spanish (native English) and I would generally agree with your descriptions of both. English however, does have another disadvantage in that it's pretty complex grammatically. There are a shit load of words/phrases that go against normal rules and must simply be memorized. English must be a bitch to learn as a second language.

>Spanish/Italian - Many words sound too smiliar

Are you kidding? They only have 5 vowel sounds, each consonant sound is very distinct, and most words are composed of many short syllables. In this regard, they are like the opposite of French, but you put them in the same tier.

You're an idiot, OP.

>>3986005
It is although no one on the internet will admit to that.

English is a fine language with serious spelling issues. Caused by conflicting writing and pronunciation standards at the time of conception, it's still a serious fault of the language.

>>3985314
>all they are is mode of communication
I'm not saying that English is the best, but some languages are certainly better for communicating ideas. A language could also be superior for the ease in which it is spoken (though this is more cultural), the ease in which it is learned, or even for the pure aesthetics of the language.

>>3986005

I call bullshit that you know a lick of Spanish. There's no way you'd call English grammar complicated if you knew Spanish at all. Have you seen how many different fucking conjugations there are for every goddamn verb? And how many of them are irregular?!

English grammar is all "He/she/we/they/it went" DONE.

mootblok
>>3985972
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindi

I'd suggest taking a look at that before you make broad generalizations and call trolls retards, especially considering that India has numerous regional dialects as well.

>English is the best language because it's the simplest sounding
>Anything with any kind of style is stupid and hard to hear
>Also I have never learned a second language in my life

The ignorance in this thread is stifling. I wish I could believe it was full of trolls, not just idiots.

>>3986063
The butthurt is strong with this one.

p.s. studied French in middle/high school, 4 years of japanese at college + lived in Japan for a year. inb4 weeaboo.

China should wise up and adopt a semi-alphabetic system of writing like Japan already. No matter how many people speak it natively, having 5,000 characters to memorize (potentially much more if you want to be verbose) will forever make it a non-portable language.

>>3986057
>>3986057
>Have you seen how many different fucking conjugations there are for every goddamn verb? And how many of them are irregular?!

There are only three verb endings, and two of them share identical conjugations the vast majority of the time. And the 6 base conjugations for each verb are easily memorized with the vast majority of verbs following the rules. Conjugations in other tenses often just consist of tacking on a few extra letters to the base conjugation.

There's only a couple verbs dozen that are really irregular (and there's even a regularity to most of the irregular ones), but there are not nearly as many as in English. Hell, most of the irregularities in conjugation just tack on an 'i' or a consonant to make the word flow more easily. And although there are a lot of grammatical rules, it's no more than English. And those rules hold true for a far greater percentage of words/phrases than in English.

No language (except maybe Esperanto) is perfectly uniform. But Spanish is a hell of a lot better than English is in this regard.

>>3986189
I have a question about this.
How do the chinese type?

>>3986057
>He/she/we/they/it went"

But each verb has its own conjugation that must be memorized. Sure, there may only be only 2 or 3 forms for each word that cover any subject, but there is no set pattern across words. With Spanish, you learn the 6 basic endings and you can now conjugate the vast majority of the verbs in the language.

OP: English is the best language because I say so. I have no real evidence to back up such a qualitative statement because my argument is entirely baseless.

>>3986189

Both should fix their retardedly complex writing systems. And add the concept of bloody SPACES while they're at it.

Nonetheless, Top Tier is correct as English, but should add Japanese. English has been explained as the most versatile language capable of assimilating virtually any concept or word instantly without breaking grammar, and I say that Japanese aside from the writing is one of the better sounding languages. And is the main component of animu and shouting loudly.
Therefore, these two languages are the only ones humanity will ever need. The rest can go die in a burning-shit fire.

>>3986344

the same way they shit, broskalordzwer

>>3986386
Japanese is the best ANGRY language. It's kind of like a more smoothly flowing German in this regard.

This is Japanese language's only advantage.

>>3986266
>And the 6 base conjugations for each verb are easily memorized with the vast majority of verbs following the rules. Conjugations in other tenses often just consist of tacking on a few extra letters to the base conjugation.

So I take it you only studied the indicative tenses.

Compare:
Conjugation of "IR" and "TO GO": http://spanish.about.com/od/specificverbs/a/conjugation_ir.htm

In English, it's just "go" and "went" with extra words. These extra words are the same for every verb. Plus, in Spanish, the subject is often left off, so if you can't conjugate, you can't understand.

>>3986417
but they don't have letters, just words, so wouldn't their keyboard have to be fucking MASSIVE and just be impractical?

Japanese has a better flow than english, since it's always consonant, vowel, consonant, vowel, etc. However, it has really shitty other stuff. Including kanji.

But on the point of flowing well, Japanese sounds better.

>>3986344
Pinyin. Basically they type it in phonetic English characters, but usually there are many characters with the same transliteration, so you have to go back and pick which one you meant after you already typed it out.

>>3986497
No, I'm well aware that words like Ir and Hacer get kinda weird in other tenses. But like I said, no language is perfectly uniform. Ir is probably the worst verb there is. It's also the most common, which makes memorizing it much easier.

I would rather memorize a handful of verbs with lots of weird forms, than hundreds of verbs with unique forms.