Yes because everyone who's played CoD4 on veteran knows not to stand in obvious places, whereas everyone else has just watched Rambo.

A gun is a gun, although it may depend on who has a faster reaction time. Many things come into factor in a gun fight.

Maybe if you've played SWAT 4 or something like this you might have an advantage in urban combat since it's one of the few games when one shot usualy means death so you know what avoid and how to move inside buildings filled with hostiles. But you'd probably die pretty quickly anyways. GAMES =/= REAL LIFE

Perhaps he would have a little tactical advantage because he should know to keep his fucking head down.

>>3903838
You don't need to play CoD4 on veteran to know that.

If you ever played OFP you will know that the first thing you do in the battle is look for the next bush AND ALL GO PRONE ALL STEALTH

I'm gonna suggest an Operation Flashpoint / original Ghost Recon play would have a better chance than a CoD4 / Battlefield player.

Nothing teaches the art of nade spamming like video games.

Gamers' eyes are apparently trained to detect subtle movements better than your average joe. So i'd say yes.

ok...once the clip was through most gamers would be done for. we just push a button to reload. it's quite a bit more difficult than that on modern guns i'd imagine.

Taking a bullet wouldn't be the same. You'd wince in pain and whine like a bitch and then they next bullet would end your life.

If only bullets could go through corners and walls like in CS, that would be serious pwnage.

>>3903914

lol, wince?

more like SCREAM IN AGONY HOLY FUCK OH GOD THAT HURTS SO BAD NOTHING HAS EVER HURT THIS BADLY IN MY ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE OH GOD SWEET JESUS END MY TORMENT.

that's why aaaaaaahm goin to college so i don't have to risk getting killed for a little money.

I would still blame lag if I die.

>>3903945

lol. this is really simple. i drop the gun and run like a frenchman. in video games you can't escape because the world has boundaries.

>>3903933
Funny I go to college so I can join the military and make a bit more money than all those niggers and spics.

Yes because FPSs desentizised this generation to a point where -unlike in previous wars- most would actually shoot to kill the enemy.

we would be more able to detect movement and know how to use cover

>>3903889
not everyone on COD4 just charges into enemy fire you know. although on some maps running at them and stabbing them in the face is surprisingly effective.

haha, gamers are generally weak lazy fucks with low levels of co-ordination, even compared to the general population

your asses would get fried

most kills are made by the machine-gunners, m-16's and the like are mainly used to keep enemy heads down while you flank.

also, your squad would hate your worthless ass. prob no friendly fire death but you'd want to watch your worthless ass

> next bullet would end your life.
or maybe not. In which case you will wince in twice the agony

This is something that's been bugging me and since firearms are heavily restricted where I live I can't simply test it out either.

Do people actually die instantly/within a few seconds of being shot or is it just a movie thing?

>>3903979
well A. it said same physical fitness levels and B studies show FPS's increase perception and decrease reaction times.

>>3903993
depends on where you get shot. If you get shot in the gut, you will probably have a long and painful death. IF you get shot in the head or the heart, you'll have a much quicker death experience. Either way, if you don't have medical attention nearby, you would die in a week or two from any gunshot, period.

>>3903998
about the only real advantage I can see for FPS guys is if they actually know to work as a team.

also the same level of physical fitness is faggotry since eye training is a physical trait, just like endurance and breath control necessary for sustaining fire in even a short confrontation

but keep livin' in your what-if world because it doesn't mean shit and generally lacks relevance

>>3903913

>>clip

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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

It's called MAH-GUH-ZEENE, you fucking idiot.

>>3904028
well the work as a team is dubious as in many games the other team members are seen as distractions or meatshields. and this is a hypothetical situation so calm down

>>3904056
fuck you bitch, this what-if world is during the Great War and we all have Mausers

now hand me that clip of 8mm bullets you lazy faggot

I can't shoot worth shit with a real weapon, because my eyes don't have a little cross burned into them.

>>3904069
I'm saying that in a battlefield situation, it's crucial that a fire team work as an actual team

did I make that clear enough?

if the fps faggot can work with his team and pick up on communication signal quickly, he might do better than your average guy off the street

but I'm betting your average construction worker will have a better chance

either way, the faggot will be the weakest link on the team and hopefully get left at camp until the military could ship his ass to basic training

Someone who plays a lot of FPS games will have better aim, at least some idea of how to take cover, and more desensitization towards actually killing another person than someone who hasn't played games.

Someone with actual military or combat training and experience will still own the fuck out of some FPS faggot, though.

PROTIP: RL is lacking a HUD and overplayed and thus well known enviroments.
Enjoy making sense of military maps and confusing communications.

>>3904127
my guess is that they would immediately break down from the stress and confusion

it's hard to find cover when you're pouting like a little bitch

>>3903899
That's just fucking bullshit why does everyone believe everything they hear.

I think FPS players would have more value of ammo. A person with no experience would go in guns blazing, not thinking about how many bullets they're firing.

>>3904127
>plays a lot of FPS games
>better aim

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

wait no. I got trolled.

Hey guys, I like to play tiger woods golf and I'm pretty good. Do you think I'd make a better pro golfer than the average person

hey guys, I play this game where I pretend to be a surgeon. If they suddenly slapped scrubs on me, do you think the patient would live?

Hey guys, I can make web page on wordpress, now I'm a programmer!

Hey guys, my friends think I'm funny, should I become a comedian?

Etc.

What about people who play strategy games? Would they be better off giving orders?

Considering that, at least in my country, officers are overpromoted incompetents, I'd say that's quite likely.

WELL UH DUUUUUUUH

everybody knows you'll throw a grenade farther if you run and jump then throw it

didnt see THAT in basic training DID you - motherfucker

Snoipins a goo' job moite.

Yes, I would be the sniper, you wouldn't be able to find me so I'd win anyway. And best part? If things turn sour, I can simply escape without firing a shot.

>>3904196
I bet they don't teach you how to hide and avoid the actual fight in basic training. It's a damn shame, that's a basic survival skill.

>>3904188
You don't happen to be an Italyfag now don't you?
Among other things, Italys army is a pathetic mess.

>>3904196
a cowardly sniper with a 10 second attention span?

you'd be up for a piss-break every five minutes. I'd hope your spotter did the right thing and kill you with an insurgent ak-47 and ditch the weapon

>>3904188
i like to think so although some people follow the soviet russia command method which is drown them in our corpses. is it odd i feel bad when my little guys die?

>>3904214
I am, my job is to explain basic physics to artillery officers, and I would have a better time teaching that in kindergarten.

I'm more of a strategy guy myself, both real time and turn based. Oh, and also have researched strategies used in wars since Mesopotamia up to now. That puts me on a higher ground than you faggots, I am leading my troops, you are taking the bullets.

>>3904221
>is it odd i feel bad when my little guys die?

I feel the same, every time someone dies I scream things like "NO, POOR JOHN, HE WAS GOING TO GET MARRIED AS SOON AS HE GOT ON LEAVE! YOU BASTARDS!"

Awareness of ammo, awareness of cover.
If you're running around with guns, everyone's probably paying attention to movement around them, so being 'accustomed' as a gamer wouldn't be significant.

The lesson from school shootings is that some gamers are actually able to get headshots all the time. Not because it is difficult, but because of the psychology of it - normal people (and most gamers) will not shoot another human being IN THE FACE.

>>3904240
it depends what game you play and who you play as

if im playing as chaos in dawn of war i couldnt care less!

those bastards WANT to die anyway

>>3904240
When i first played the original Halo, i watched out for my marines and shed a little tear whenever one of the died.

>>3904003
>if you don't have medical attention nearby, you would die in a week or two from any gunshot, period.
Bullshit.

>>3904221
I feel bad for the first couple soldiers
then I get in the groove and go soviet style

I feel that Stalin's saying, "One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." is applicable to RTS in general.

*sigh*

this is such crap

the workings of an xbox 360 controller are FAR removed from those of an actual fucking gun - most people know they are shooting sprites - 1's and 0's

not an actual human being

NOFUCKINGBODY - will 100% remove that fact from their mind that they are shooting a human - they just make it a bit easier TO shoot a human - but unless you are a complete fucking nut

you will still know it was a human being

anybody who argues against this point it FUCKING - STUPID and they bloody damn well know it.

>>3904248
That's why I usually play games where fire support has a great deal of power, I prefer to win battles with as little close quarters engagement as possible, because my heart couldn't stand all those losses.

>>3904276
Fucking turtlers destroying my genre

When I was in the army, video games didn't help jack shit.
Yes, you do work with your group and shit, and reaction time does play into it a bit, but COVER will not provide protection. Fuck that. Cover will provide concealment, but not more. If the enemy knows you are behind that barn, they will shoot the barn, and you behind it.
Your best shot would be keeping your god damn head down, relying on surprise, and not wasting ammunition on "automatic fire mode".
Vidyagamefags don't know shit about real combat.
Closest thing you got, is maybe Operation Flashpoint, ArmA, Insurgensy and Project Reality. But those are too scaled down and use abstract concepts to simulate real combat.

>>3904294
I thought you were supposed to take cover behind concrete or bricks, not wood.

>>3903833

Go play paintball to try this out. You will realize very quickly that getting shot happens in a instant and almost always from somewhere you weren't expecting.

Basically, no, playing FPS will not help you at all.

>>3904256
>>3904250
>>3904248
>>3904240
well in command and conquer i try and keep my allies or americans alive but when i play the soviets or chinese then i suddenly turn into Stalin but angrier.

>>3904306
concrete and bricks usually wont offer that much protection either dude

a volley of AK fire would go through it - perhaps not all the bullets and they'd be slowed down a bit - but they'll still get through

>>3904253
No, thats what you learn in boot camp.
Medical attention AT THE SPOT is the most crucial thing for a persons survival when wounded in battle.

>>3904271
Wrong. Killing humans becomes a job... a reaction. When you've seen shrapnel rip through your best pal since basic, his personality vanishing in the blink of an eye, you realize that these people must be killed when you see them, and immediately. There is no time for thinking, there is no time to feel bad, there is no hesitation.

Try not to say shit like this unless you know what you're talking about, kid.

>>3904287
well my favourite strategy is turtle teh fuck out of everything then send out lightning attacks or airstrikes at their resource production while plastering their base with bombs and missiles. then when they dont have enough money to function or rebuild i sweep them away with the best tanks available. its quite easy to get less than 5 losses for the whole game.

Nope. The sheer fact that you can't instinctively swivel your head and point your eyes back and forth in games (easily at least), completely changes your situational awareness compared to real life.

You know when you're playin

>>3904342
I prefer well defended artillery emplacements, myself. Building them ever closer to the enemy base.

>>3904306
Well, that depends on the environment where you are fighting. If it's a city, then you are lucky to have cover. On the other hand, fighting in a city is helluva hard, with enemy coming from all possible angles, very unlike videogame environments, where designers can limit accesability.
In the forest, it's easier one way. Everyone is on the ground, not high up in some buildings. And you have to rely more on stealth and surprise attacks than on speed and cover.
Also: supporting armored vehicles. I bet your average gamer knows jack shit about fighting together with a tank or something similar.

Assault cube is a good game

Gamers don't know how to aim. Sure, you could try aiming from your waist like most games but good luck hitting anything.

i would be a signature forger and laugh at people who thought having similar handwriting meant we were soulmates :3

>>3904371
I know that if you see an enemy vehicle you had better run. If it's one of your own you had better run anyway, it might have been captured.

Yes, they would be a little better.

Everyone on here is fucking retarded and is making arguments on why 1337DeathKillers clan on CoD4 would get killed by the SAS. Yes, everyone knows that.

Obviously, someone with no training is going to be worse than a fucking delta operator.

The question is a group of FPS kids vs. a group of average people including accountants and soccer moms, I think the gamers would probably win.

>>3904329
*SQUAK* killing all humans is the same - you become a robot *SQUAAAAK*

got a retard on the com sir

you've never even been in combat have you? no i didnt think so

I know some of those guys i saw get killed where somebody's kid

they had friends

yeah - killing becomes easier and it's a reaction

but we are not all fucking robots - if we where - there wouldnt be as much post traumatic stress - because we would have thought we where killing humans and we would be feeling no emotions either

please.....take this shit elsewhere, spare me this crap

>They have the same level of fitness too.

this is where your whole hypothetical falls apart

>>3904329
i know some of those people i saw die where somebodies kid

and im not some mindless killing machine either

you either havent got a clue as to what the fuck you are talking about - or you are explaining it VERY, VERY badly

>>3904393

I've killed men, I've seen battle, and I did it for money and for little shits like you who will never understand. I don't suffer from any stress syndromes. You won't see me acting like a pussy on your syndicated news tonight.

It's great that you want to make blind assumptions about things without having any idea what you're talking about. You'd make a great officer. For now, though, you're just a little shit who has some friend or somebody who was a big leaky twat and cried to you, so you consider yourself an expert on the subject.

Go masturbate and think up something to do instead of failing so hard in this thread.

I think if you play CoD4 on veteran without dieing once you are ready to fight IRL everybody else GBTG!

>>3904420
so now that you are back home and shit has died down...

do you think about any of the men you killed?

when i say think about it i mean like "man...i had to do it and all..but it was somebodies kid"

or is it the "nope, i feel no guilt whatsoever" story

not a libfaggot trying to set you up - i'd actually like to know

>>3904420
you don't what it was like in Nam man. Sure we killed a couple kids but it didn't affect me man. Nope, didn't affect me cuz I'm not a whining little shitbag or a mental weakling like those other faggots. Nope man, didn't fucking affect me at all. I was crazy before I got there right? Fuck yeah.

Now pass me another beer.

>>3904420
fucking bully for you

you arent the only guy who's seen a combat zone so take your head out of your godamn ass and stop acting like a know it all and can speak for every soldier who has ever been in combat.

fuck people like you make my blood boil

>>3904446
man, who cares about a couple sand niggers and mountain trolls from shitghanistan? As far as I'm concerned I did them a favor. Have you seen the pictures man? That place is a shit hole. I'd rather kill myself than live that dump.

I'm tellin' ya. I did those faggots a goddamned favor.

>>3904420
right - well people saying to somebody else "DURP all killing is the same - regardless of whether you had to do it or you and your pals would die - or if you killed a man just to watch him die"

are clearly very stupid, morally bankrupt bastards who need to watch those chechan war crime videos, and think if the guys in that compare to their friends who shot a guy in the head, who was clearly going to kill them.

the answer is they are not the same thing.

>>3904467
*passes you another beer - gestures you to continue your story*

>>3904391
Yeah you are probably right. Everyone would be just as bad, exept the gamers, until everyone had to reload.

>>3904468
War crimes are what winners call what the other faction does.

>>3904480
errrrrrr no

it's what amnesty international said - neutral party

>>3904469
haha, naw I was just playin off of the mr hardass "I've killed people"

AM has and never will gain OTG battle experience.

I completed my enlistment and I'm not going back to that madhouse bureaucracy

>>3904487
I wonder why you never hear much talk of American or British crimes during WW2, then.

>>3904446
I still think about it, sure. I wish I'd taken more of the motherfuckers out before I took a 7.62 in my thigh, too. Most of my thoughts concern my mistakes and near-hits... call me a perfectionist.
>>3904457
I didn't say I was speaking for everyone who has seen combat, did I? Calm down.

I'm not some badass, and I never claimed to be. I'm also no pushover pussy who was pampered by his mom his entire life, and broke during/after battle. I'm just a man. One who took offense to the kid who posted: >>3904271. I have no regrets, and for me it didn't feel a bit bad to kill. I felt bad when I missed, because missing might kill your friends.

Aside from the fitness bit which I surely would not believe, but for the sake of argument I'll agree to that condition, I still that a lot of average people would beat out gamers. The majority of games don't teach you anything useful, and a large portion of gamers are inept at things that require practical knowledge, like the effective use of a firearm requires. I suspect the gamers would get destroyed honestly.

>>3904487
l2Nuernberg Trails, libfag

>>3904498
oh im not denying that dude

it's just a matter of who gets caught

the chechans made a fucking VIDEO of theirs but and (naturally) it got found

russians got told they where being bad in chechnia - they show that video to amnesty international

the russians certainly did bad shit too im not denying that!

but you see what i mean - some of the bastards who commit the crimes just get away

>>3904509
except all the people tried had committed crimes that deserved punishment.

>>3904498
the only allies that committed major crimes were the russians and to some extent the french as far as i am aware.there were few if any reports of british or american soldiers committing atrocities.

>>3904529
Sure they did, it's not like some of them were found innocent afterwards.

>>3904499
ok i see - well you DO think about it and you do understand that they where somebodies kid, a man who yes, ill admit - you had to kill - and better him then you

but there are alot of retards who would say you are JUST as much of a bad guy as those people who commit war crimes for lulz - seriously

you sound like you've kept your humanity through it - which is good

you're a good example for those chimps who say when you kill regardless of method you turn into a emotionless zombie.

realise though a man can experience post trauma despite being a hardass - look at special forces dudes

it affects us all differently

ps: i hope that leg fixes up too

>>3904468

Death is death, why try to make sense of it? A body shuts down and a personality is gone forever. It's just part of life.

>>3904546
What about Dresden, then? Or the firebombing of Japan? Or the fact that Britain had a penchant for sinking hospital ships? And do you think Russian soldiers were the only ones who raped every woman they set their sight on? At least they were shot for it.

>>3904563
By the power of JESUS! I raise thy personality from the dead. ARISE! COME FORTH!

SAY SOMETHING INTERESTING SO THAT WE'LL KNOW YOUR PERSONALITY HATH BEEN MADE WHOLE!

say hallelujah

I SAID SAY HALLELUJAH

it is good!

>>3904529
The only "crimes" that were considered punishable, were atrocities only the germans commited. That's why carpet bombing or annihilation civilian centres was not considered a warcrime.

>>3904562
Thanks, it's almost tip-top again. As for me being just as bad as the "other guy"... well, you'd be right. I'm no better than anyone I've killed. This is my job.

>>3904587
Hiroshima was a military stronghold.

BWAHAHAHAHA

>>3904567
yes all allied nations were responsible for rapes but the vast majority was russian with some french.

My FPS experience: Half-Life, Doom, Wolfenstein 3D, and Quake.

I'd probably think I'm invincible, Rambo it, then die in 5 seconds.

>>3904587
are you one of those people who considers the nuclear bombs a warcrime? please dont be one of those idiots.

>>3904609
are you one of those people who doesn't consider the nuclear bombs a warcrime? please dont be one of those idiots.

>>3904608
Feel like teaming up bro?

>>3904594
fair enough

i think some soldiers would disagree with you

for one i dont think you are as mad and frothing at the mouth as some of those guys who want kill their opponents and savage their bodies, or capture them and hack them up

if i killed one - i'd certainly not consider myself the same as he

your thoughts?

The average gamer? No, of course not.

But a gamer that actually cares a bit about what's going on in the game world, knows the real-life workings of the pixels representing the weapons he's shooting at the other pixels, has thought about war strategy a bit, actually plays other games like Splinter Cell, Metal Gear Solid, etc so he knows a bit about how stealth is INCREDIBLY important to everything, then yeah. I'd say he'd have a little better chance than the average joe.

It also helps if you've seen and fired a real fucking gun at least once in your life.

Also, not saying that Splinter Cell or MGS are accurate representations of sneaking, it just helps to get the idea across that if you get caught, you're in a world of hurt. And no, I don't play on the pussy easy modes, I play MGS3 on European Extreme all the time, faggots.

>>3904597
Curious, that's not what happened in Italy.

>>3904618
yeah yeah unnecessary suffering of civilians

we can agree on that

every war historian and vetaran soldier would agree that the japanese where ferocious

spoke to a few old guys about their time in the pacific - the japanese where ferocious

the nuke was considered by many as the only way to end the war at the time to tell the japs "fuck you, we'll do it again if you dont stop"

the second nuking however.....weeeeeeeell

that's debatable

>>3904633
HAI GUISE DON'T MIND ME IM JUST SITTING RIGHT IN FUCKING FRONT OF YOU IN THE SHADOW WITH SOME HUEG GREEN LIGHTS ON MY FUCKING HEAD

>>3904618
so the 4 million plus lives saved by the bombs mean nothing to you? would you rather the americans had to shoot Japanese schoolgirls trained to run at them with spears?

>>3904638
And that completely disregards the fact that Japan only surrendered when the Soviets declared war on them, not after the bombs. The constant firebombing had already been much worse for them.

The bombs were mostly used to intimidate Stalin and show off American power.

>>3904644
hey, those school girls would have died with dignity. good for them.

>>3904655
it's too bad you wherent there AM

then you could have told us all another one of your kickass stories

>>3904659
did I ever tell you time that we dropped phosphorous on Ho Chi Minh's hometown and took turns raping his childhood nurse before tossing her onto one of the burning huts?

good times /b/rothas

pass me a beer

>>3904673
fuck you AM you've been here for hours and havent paid for shit

pay for your own godamn beer

There area whole lot of internet tough guys in here.
90% of you would cry your eyes out if you ever had to shoot anyone.

>>3904757
yeah, i think i would feel preety bad

even if i HAD to do it and all the usual kill or be killed shit asidie

i'd cry later on

No, because 99% of people who regularly play FPS are fat.

>>3904772
That's bonus armour.

A report like this was released a while back and the US Army know this ( hence Americas Army)
people who have played FPS are better at firing a gun they have never used than a normal person.
also have on average better reflexes
there was a case of a year 8 or something boy in the states being able to pinpoint a gun perfectly, having never used one before. he played a lot of CSS

Dur hurr, I'll rush out and shoot people wildly, get knocked out, and then respawn in 120 seconds.

>>3904823
so you think he's just as much a natural born killer as a veteran soldier?

please

>>3904823
ooooooookay

he can aim a gun better then somebody who hasnt played games

what about the flotilla of everything else being a soldier entails?

>>3904839
yes, that's the crux of this thread as there are quite a few more things to playing soldier than shooting a gun and reloading

>>3904865
ugh i know

and doing it all WHILE YOU ARE GETTING SHOT AT

it's something these retards who think they've got it all figured out just dont seem to be able to grasp

there is just so much more to it then aiming

and because you are a bit more likely to shoot a humanoid shaped target after playing gears of war - it doesnt mean you are some natural born killer - you're just that little bit more likely to, it still doesnt proove very much

>>3904631
We're all pretty much the same. The "bad guys" are only such because we define what bad is. Otherwise, they're just guys. They (mostly) get paid/compensated to kill, as do we. They have their beliefs, I have mine. Thankfully, I have an extremely well-financed unit and they do not. I've had LASIK and they haven't. I have advanced electronics to aid me in detecting them, and they don't, etc.

If they were plucked, at birth, and given to my childhood neighbors, we'd probably be friends, but we aren't. It really is a game, as it can be nothing else. Emotion, compassion, and understanding can't be brought to the battle. There's no time for it - logic and speed are all that I need.

Everyone in the situation knows what they're going into, and they know that there are very few ways out. I don't feel bad for their dead, and I don't expect them to feel bad for ours - it's understood beforehand, which is what many of the people herein don't understand.

You don't sit down to a game of hold'em and reraise with your kid's college fund without knowing there is a (calculated) chance to lose it. I wouldn't feel bad taking it, as we knew upon sitting down what we were getting into.

>>3904931
i see what you mean - i can understand not thinking about that while there's shooting going on and bullets flying in the air

but afterwards - yeah i see what you mean

thanks for explaining that by the way

just watch out for retards who'll say you are a monster - presuming to know you better then you know yourself - i think you americans call them liberals

This thread is dumb. Of course it would give you an advantage.

Yeah, I suppose someone who plays video games wouldn't know how to support an armored vehicle, but the question wasn't whether or not video games are a substitute for training. What exactly makes you think that someone who spends their free time playing basketball would know how to support an armored vehicle without training? At least someone who plays fps would have better reaction times.

>>3904959
i get that

just remember to tell those that there is more to it then aiming and shooting - and a tree doesnt stop all bullets

There's nothing gamers love more than to discuss what it would be like to actually live in the real world. But they don't.

Someone who has played enough FPS games would certainly have a tactical advantage over someone who hasn't. Then again, the person who hasn't likely has a mobility advantage.

>>3903993
dude, yes - people die fast from getting shot.
go to a library and check out anatomy, you have huge arteries which when cut will make you bleed out in seconds. gettng shot in the heart is like instant death too.

I've played enough fps games to know how to reload most weapons, maybe not in the same amount of perfect reload timing as ingame.
I know how to shoot, not with the gun at the waist.
I often go to airsoft, in a huge forest with like 60 other dudes, and slowly stalk the enemy and pick them off. Nothing is better than flanking them silently, and following them directly behind them for 100metres before getting the perfect opportunity to throw a grenade at like 3 lying down then shooting the others. fuckyeah.

Your average m16a2 without magazine weighs around 7 pounds. Your average gamer can barely keep his body up and moving for extended periods of time. Gamers play FPS with your weapons always at the high-ready, so them being accustomed to that would walk around trying to keep their weapon fixed and in a few minutes would run completely out of energy. Of course by energy I mean effort because the bastard probably hasn't ever exerted himself ever in his life.

Also gamers are all about headshots, general rule of thumb is though, aim center mass. Besides the obvious advantage that it is a bigger target, a 5.56mm round from an m16 or an m4 is optimized to hit the torso. This is because the round tumbles when it hits flesh, causing it to effectivley say hello to all your organs before exiting your body in stylish fashion.

Have a nice day.

>>3903993

not instantly

they might not even fall over, unless you smashed their legs or got the spinal cord. sometimes they won't even notice it happened until they fall unconscious from blood loss.

I'd like to think in a gun fight I'd have an edge due to my mad camping skills. Seriously though, one man isn't an army despite what action movies may have led some people to believe. Unless you focus on getting the jump on a many people as possible you're going to get shot by someone eventually if it's just down to who shoots fastest and most accurately.

In a war situation, however, you'd be following orders. So you'd pretty much live or die by where you're sent and what your expected to do.

>>3905213
except not all gamers are the hurr headshot people. i aim for the chest all of the time.

I'd probably be pretty good. No soldier, but better than you average person, yeah.
The vidya taught me how to be stealthy and how camouflage works. Thank you, Big Boss and Battlefield.
Reloadan animations showed me how lots of guns are reloaded, and I could probably figure out how to use most sights.
Played ArmA, 'Merika's Army, SWAT4, and all that sorta realistic stuff too, so I wouldn't be totally inept with tactics.

That said, I'd probably still lose to a Somalian with an Ak74.

anyone who goes on /b/ would be great in a war

they wouldn't throw up or anything from shooting people because they've seen a lot worse shit on /b/

prove me wrong

Bunnyhopping would've won the war in Vietnam.

>>3905813

Not to forget quick change melee.

>>3903928
depending on the round... bullets do go through corners and walls(once again depending on wall and round)

I play contra every day.

I am relatively sure I could mow down entire enemy armies without being shot once, and running straight towards their home base.

>>3905995
I'd believe you if bullets flew that slow in real life, and were the size of baseballs.

same level of fitness? Possibly. Games do give better color detection so have a slight advantage in reacting when you see them. Though, reaction speed is both dependent on how fast you can process some information(how efficient your pathways have been made, and yes, games do make these pathways more efficient[at least the eye -> holy fuck something is there I need to do something about it]), but also how fast you can move your limbs and how coordinated you are. The latter comes with practice in the real world. So for most of the shut ins, if they had to face someone who knew what they were doing, they be fucked.

But with the premise that the shut in is the one with the advantage of having higher brain reaction speed(even if the physical reaction speed is no different) that still means that they will be a bit faster to react, IE shoot a fucker. So yes, the gamer will have the advantage. Now in real life where the fitness level is NOT equal..... they are fucked.

I do believe people who play a lot of FPS's are a little desensitized to war. They probably wouldn't have a problem pulling the trigger when they need to and are likely less susceptable to the psychological problems that comes with being a veteran.

>>3906050
>>3906050

has never seen combat

>>3906056
I don't know man, with games being as realistic as they are today, if you pay attention to certain animations they'll teach you how to use the gun.
I remember the first time I went to a shooting range with my step-father.
I picked up a nine millimeter baretta pistol and instantly knew how to line up the iron sights, where the safety was, and how to eject the magazine and load a new one.
No one had to teach me any of that.

>>3906073
pulling the trigger yes. Hitting is another question all together. Shooting a gun in a game aint nothing like shooting a gun in real life. Fucker kicks back like shit depending on the gun which makes aiming a problem if you dont have the muscles to control that shit.

Yes. I play TF2, so I can rocket jump above the bad guys.

And blow my legs off.

>>3906050

Autism: It's only funny when THEY DON'T TRY TO REFUTE THE FEASIBILITY OF A JOKE'S PREMISE

>>3906114
Have you fired a real gun? Recoil doesn't take a lot of muscle to control.
About the only thing I've found that's difficult to hold onto is a pistol-grip shotgun without the stock.
If you don't brace it against your hip, it can get away from you pretty easily.

I'm in the French Military... 3/4ths of our boot camp was playing video games.

>>3906143

>>I'm in the French Military

Yeah, fuck your testimony.

>>3906137
ok fine, I didn't mean you have to be buff. Just have the right muscles, hell writing with a pencil needs muscles as well. But I still stand by that aiming in real life takes skill which is not giving by using a mouse to aim.

>>3906143

Troll, there is no such thing as the French military.

I have seen over 500+ action movies completely.
Of couse I would do better.

>>3906161
True, there are a lot more factors to take into consideration when you're actually shooting a gun.
It's more than just dexterous fingers, you need stable shoulders and decent eye sight as well, which is usually something video games just give you automatically.
Being a certain height works well too. Weapons are hard to fire from the hip accurately when you're relatively short.

>>3906192
I see how I worded that a little wrong.

In a video game, the person you're playing already has good eye sight and stable shoulders.
Video games won't give you good eye sight and stable shoulders by playing them, probably just the opposite.

No. Moving your mouse around does not equal aiming a gun IRL. And as for finding cover, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who wouldn't get the fuck away from a hail of bullets. Besides, in just about any game I can think of, it's totally okay to go hide behind a car or a fence or in a barn, all of which any kind of military grade bullet gladly passes straight through with no problem.

The purpose of many types of cover isn't really protecting you from a bullet but hiding you from the shooter, so you can surprise him yourself. Games generally follow the same kind of sense movies do: If a part of your body cannot be seen, then it cannot be shot, much like a child thinks it is invisible if it covers its eyes (I can't see you, so you can't see me).

>>3904377
I'd be IRL no-scoping those bitches like a motherfucker.

Not at all, OP. In fact, I would say it's mostly opposite. The person who plays a shitload of video games would have the shakiest nerves and would probably be unable to fight, not to mention be too weak to hold a gun like the one in your picture properly.

>>3906235
Not all games are like that though. Recently they've been adding the different types of cover vs different rounds in the gun, and the over all power of the gun itself.
You do actually sort of learn what's good cover and what will get you shot.

>>3906236
>IRL no-scoping

Go for it bro, let me know how you get on.