OP again-- Surprisingly enough, I really don't have any major issues with history. We're still in love. >:3

I want to go into business. I'm afraid my idiotic and well-connected peers will outdo me no matter what I do.

>>3849194

inb4 shitstorm

That said, I'm a politics student and I can't stand the sheer gap between 'left' and 'right', finding someone who doesn't just latch onto the extremes and shriek at their opposite is a rare thing. Also, despite what people think about unis being a hotbed of pinko-commies, I've met far more conservatives; it actually shocked me. It's fun when they find out I'm not one of them, shenanigans ensue.

Math major here.

No complaints whatsoever. My major kicks ass.

Except the workload. But you've gotta weed out the pussies.

can anyone share their insight on majors like biology or accounting

I hate how engineers go through most of college before learning what engineers actually DO, and then bitch about it. Even more aggravating, they generally do little to develop new technologies of their own, and usually end up doing useless, mundane alterations to existing technologies in the name of "progress".

I hate how philosophers usually just pick one philosophy they've read about and latch on to it, rejecting all others. Why does nobody realize that no one philosopher is right, and that everyone must draw their OWN conclusions about the world, BASED on the theories of others? You're supposed to learn from philosophers, not copy them.

>>3849351

I hate how biology is too general to be useful in acquiring an advanced career.
Biology = Hurr, lowest level of specification means lowest rung on the bioscience ladder.

I hate how accounting is too specific to be useful in acquiring an advanced career.
Accounting = Hurr, job is so specific you can never leave and do anything else, and there is no room for advancement.

>>3849436

>I hate how philosophers usually just pick one philosophy they've read about and latch on to it, rejecting all others. Why does nobody realize that no one philosopher is right, and that everyone must draw their OWN conclusions about the world, BASED on the theories of others? You're supposed to learn from philosophers, not copy them.

This, a thousand times this.

I'm doing Biology at a top Science & Tech uni/college, I hate how my course is full of bottom rung private school students who just wanted to get into a prestigious uni and took Biology because it had relatively low entry requirements.

history major here. at my uni history dept is second to chem in most D's and F's given. we kick ass with our 500 pages of weekly reading and an average of 15 pages written a week.

because professorships are hard as fuck to get in history the professors are usually fucking preachy and arrogant.

OP, I'm also in econ, and it's never seemed like it was trying to be as sure as math, or even a physical science(and I took econ at a school known for math). Thing is, if you're going to have any rigor whatsoever, you need to have enough math to at least analyze your models and run statistical analysis. That doesn't make it into an analysis of the Riemann Hypothesis, it just makes it into a field that tries to shed some light on a hellishly complex field.

I did applied economics and natural sciences.

Econ: overly conservative, self-assured, and competitive peers. Study was a very well thought-out, even genius, guessing game.

Natural sciences: liberal, pot smoking, lackadaisical peers who shouldn't be allowed to call themselves Ivy grads. Study has been made to seem more outmoded over the years, but was fantastic (except for the classmates part).

I hate politics students, they're all weird fucktards. And journalists never shut up. And people who study public relations all try to be alfa-males and females. Whenever they all get together they look like there's at least a thousand of them in the room even if it's just a few.

>>3849194
Economistfag here.

I agree, somewhat. I think the math behind Economics is simply attempting to prove logically what we see empirically. Granted, the base assumptions do, as I'm sure you know, ignore huge facets of reality, but if the conclusions are more or less accurate, then why complain? Being a theoretical social science is fine and dandy, but the mathematics is what makes it applicable, and I like my field having an application, and really, I think a lot of the math they use is damned clever.

But who knows, I'm a senior undergrad, so maybe you know something I don't.

i hate how there is only three other white dudes in my math grad dept.

Econ here, don't really have anything against the field in itself, just feeling disspirited and demotivated due to general life position etc.

Sometimes i wish it was easier to figure out what to do with economics, i personally like the more social-science and macro oriented stuff, and i have a hard time figuring out what to actually use it for in my life, other than knowing how shit that i'm never going to change, works.

Graphic Design major here. It astounds me to see some of the shit that is considered passable, but then again all of your college work is there just to get you your first job. the stuff you do there will put everything you've done to shame. Of course, I've seen some shitty company work too. Also anyone who doesn't show up to these classes is a lazy faggot. The work load may be large, but its not that difficult.

>>3849476

>there is no room for advancement.
>advancement

I thought accountants called that embezzling funds.

History major here, I don't like how us history fags can be arrogant know it alls. And the smug looks on our faces when the profs in a non-history class assign a 4-5 paper and everyone else is crying about it.

Computer Science, here.

No real complaints, just extremely disappointed all the guys are so pretty and straight... Should have picked Literature, always full of fags.

>>3849545
>>3849566
I'm an undergrad senior too. Like I said, I like taking the math classes, but just listening to my professors talk and hearing about grad school requirements--it seems for economics grad schools, it would've been better to do a math undergrad degree instead of, you know, economics--there seems to be a fair amount of delusion going on. I'm in econometrics currently, and while the math is fairly rigorous, models are still tremendously influenced by what the economist wants to see, but no one ever says as much.

I'm sorry and I'm sure this will strike a bad tone, but there is nothing I dislike about jurisprudence; the studies of law. We have just as many pretentious douchebags like any other academic field out there. My science is both theoretic as it is practical. Though the only thing that could be argued that it's not technically a science, but I'm not one to argue about something as pedantic as that.

:/

English major

The Lit people- holy fucking fuck, sometimes a book is just a book. A marxist reading of Huckleberry Finn? THEY'RE ALL POOR FUCKING SOUTHERNERS, THERE'S YOUR MARXIST READING.

These fields of "criticism" blow my mind. Why would you read a book like Huck Finn and only focus on the economics? Gender equality? That's missing the point entirely. You're just using the book as tool to push forward your own agenda. It's a poor man's philosophy/history/ethics major with a book focus, except these people don't have any training in philosophy/history/ethics.

Also, feminists. Everywhere.

The Creative Writing People - NONE OF YOU CAN WRITE. Do NOT start your story with an infodump. Do NOT start with a disembodied narrator. Put us in a fucking scene. Start as close to the action as possible. HAVE A FUCKING POINT. THEY ARE TOLD THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND THEY DON'T FUCKING FUCK FUCK FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>>3849662
I see what you did there... you'll make a fine lawyer don't sweat.

Linguistics majors, would it kill you to at least pay attention to the workings of the brain and psych studies? I know that many times the psych models have been flat out wrong and just studying the structure of language triumphed but come on, get of chomskys dick just a little bit.

And 9/10 of you fuckers are just there to get a job teaching delicious little japanese girls how to say how do you do in english. bastards

>>3849643
Yeah, that's why econ will never be a hard science. Whether you go general->specific or specific-> general when making your models, no matter what kind of model it is, you're going to have to make some subjective calls and assumptions regarding with you are working with and judge the quality of your model based on that, it's NEVER black and white, that's part of what i like, but it's also part of what makes econ so fucking dismal.

I hate how most microbiology is concerned with how microbes interact with people.. I dont care about curing diseases, I just want to study archaebacteria.

>>3849735
It's called 'purpose'.

>>3849666
I lol'd heartily at this. I want to go into literature.

I hate how writers think that the use of interesting words = the creation of interesting works.

I hate how journalists follow the same template for every single article they write.

I hate how I have to do both freelance because the industry is dying.

studying math crushed my ego. i liked to think of myself as quite capable, and then suddenly tons of people around smarter than me - where did they came from?

fuck.

>>3849775
When your reading good theorists and good books, it's pretty cool but please realize that most modern high school English classes go by the "New Criticism" model, which is reviled at the University level. Everything here is Feminism/Post-colonialism/Marxism/Multi-culturalism which gets REALLY FUCKING BORING. BOOHOO WE'RE SO FUCKING OPPRESSED.

WELL THEN RISE UP, GOD DAMN IT. RISE THE FUCK UP.

Undergrad, double majoring in accounting and finance, two more semesters not counting this one.

Accounting: lol actually I REALLY like you! The students are engaging and smart. The professors are VERY interested in the ethical action. I love that breath-catch and feared look you put in people's eyes when I tell them I'm studying you. You fill me with a happy 99% of the time. Except the 1% of the time when I realize that while we're focusing on GAAP, GAAP, GAAP, the international standards are going to rise up in the next few years and I'll have to relearn tons of stuff. But other then that, I love you, accounting. Mwah!

Finance: ah wish ah could quit yew! I took more finance class because I had two finance professors who were REALLY cool, and because I'd been told by people working in both accounting and finance fields that they wish they had known more about the other. So picking you to double-major with seemed like such a good idea at the time. Now the economy's busted and a lot of it can be traced to the attitudes and ideas you've espoused. I need to know you, but knowing your evil am coming to despise you. Later, Finance Ho Bag, I'm going to go play with the accountants.

>>3849833
I was considering doing literature but if this is what it is like then i won't do it. I love certain authors but the kind of whiny, cloudy writers who never really say anything apart from point out problems in a sheepish way really piss me off.

I KNOW HOW TO PERFORM A CABG, I AM GOD. KNEEL BEFORE MY AWESOMENESS AND WORSHIP ME.

Goddamn narcissists.

>>3849941

Pretty much everything about the feminist and Marxist criticism garbage is correct. For the past five years those are they only interpretations we've bothered to discuss in all my assorted English and lit classes.

Shit gets old fast.

And so help you God if you offer a dissenting opinion.

>>3850066

the*

cockblocks

I hate how psychology is trying to be neuroscience more and more in order to pull in more people who are afraid of being labeled pseudo-scientists.

>>3850066
Oh Jesus, if you dissent it turns to such a shitfest so fast. The classes are all full of women anyway. Imagine what it would be like if they filled the Grand Canyon to the brim with Harpies and then dropped you into the middle of it.

And let's not forget the old standard: "There is no human nature." and "If we could just get rid of all the racist/sexist words, all hate would magically disappear". I once had a professor deny the existence of sexual dimorphism because it would be sexist. Seriously, what the fuck?

>>3850174
In my gen ed intro to world cinema class, I had a prof say, more or less, that he felt bad that society was "gendering" his son and that there was nothing they could do for him.

I am a physicist. The rest of you fuckers are just masturbating until we come and figure things out for you. It is all physics - and as soon as we get powerful enough computers we will be solving all your damn problems.

i hate how chemistry engineering is way too shortsighted and focused on old technologies (separation --> HURR DUURR distilation, way too inefficient...)
i also hate how we always have to make big papers and reports on stuff you can explain in 5 sentences to anyone who's not completely ignorant

>>3850328
That's pretty funny considering that the first and foremost tool you use to calculate...well, anything, is mathematics.

The thing I hate most about Polysci/communications, is that 90% of the people take all these classes but still can't understand basic civics.

It's like seriously? How can you learn any of the shit taught about politics and government if you don't even know that the Constitution is as vague as possible for a reason.
There are a lot of people out there that just don't get what the fuck is going on.

>>3850396

That's pretty funny considering the first and foremost tool for arriving at our system of mathematics is... philosophy.

Law student here. I hate how disassociated from real life the jurisprudence is, even in the Criminal field. It would be great if people stopped sucking Hans Kelsens' cock and started thinking in solving REAL LIFE PROBLEMS

>>3850328
Jon, you know how everything fits together, except people.

>>3850328
enjoy explaining reaction mechanisms through probability wave functions of electrons

aerospace engineering here. I guess we have the same problems as most other engineers, which is that we tend to be smug nerds.

>>3850396
Aaaaand the shitfest begins.

I hate every single other art major out there. I had a professor seriously tell us that Marcel Duchamp's "Fountain" was white because he was saying something about race. For those of you who don't know about that particular piece of bullshit that gets called art, Marcel Duchamp took a urinal, set it down sideway, slapped his pseudonym and a date on it, and called it art.

He was not saying something about race. He was saying FUCK YOU PEOPLE WHO THINK ART IS SRS BZNS. it was white because URINALS ARE WHITE. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>3850444

As someone who is effectively doing just that, your post fills me with mirth.

Music major and a composer at a conservatory here. I fucking hate the sheer elitism of a lot of people in my field. Yeah, you're playing classical music, fuck you, it's not like you'll get a gold medal for it. And the sheer inaccessibility of so many pieces these bastards are writing, I'd rather listen to nails on a chalkboard and they think it's "intellectual" and "not for the masses". You have an audience for a reason, assholes, they're supposed to listen and ENJOY music. Classical music isn't the place for snobbish musicians circlejerking each other. Don't like the masses for ignoring you? You're the one that's making its reputation worse.

tl;dr: modern composers = HURR DURR DURP DERP

>>3849688

Would you refer to these people as "the smart linguistics majors?"

Just the idea makes me want to give it a try

>>3850425
That's pretty funny considering philosophy only covers male philosophers, excluding the enormously influential female thinkers you can only hear about in... Women's Studies

>>3850670
not to troll or anything, but
>enormously influential female thinkers
hahaha oh wow

Psychology's basically a joke degree without Grad School.

Also, psychologists constantly analyze everyone. It's true.

>>3850724
Hypatia of Alexandria? Emma Goldman? Mary Wollstonecraft? Rosa Luxemburg? Any of these ringing a bell?

Typical chauvinist.

>>3850787

That stops when you beat the crap out of them.

Hammer to the head = I should stop pointing out the obvious.

>>3850806
so that's 4 possibly influential female thinkers (how influential can they be? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THEM), compared to how many males?

I was a history major and switched because there's no career in that field aside from teacher, research, or museum work ("well I knew a history major that became..." yeah, i get it, fuck you). Seriously the classes focus in on such asinine detail that it gets hard when you actually like to look at the world as a whole. And most people can take overlapping things and write the same 20 page paper six times.

I actually enjoy my current major of accounting for the most part. It's just frustrating when the professor thinks we'll understand everything with a few shitty examples, as though accounting isn't a completely arbitrarily designed human construction and we can naturally deduce how things work. And all those bullshit courses that go with the business major suck. Management? Marketing? More management? Jesus fuck I want to hang myself.

Also anybody who chooses a major to be superior is an ass. I had a roommate who was a physics major who played that "all that matters is physics" card all the time. My history major friends look down on my business major. Other fields that seem to attract these people are econ, philosophy, English, and political science.

>>3850806
>Rosa Luxemburg
>Infulential thinker
Cool story, bro.

>>3850897
You've never heard of the first martyr slain by the Christians? Or the lady who wrote the Vindication of the Rights of Women right after the French Revolution? Maybe the latter two, one a pureblood Communist and the other an Anarcho-communist, aren't widely known, but I'd expect even a man of mediocre intelligence to know the first two. Just goes to show you why Women's Studies fills a niche that other majors just can't hope to fill.

>>3850952
>LOLZ I HAVE FUCK ALL TO SAY BUT I'M A CUMDUMPSTER I CAN GET AWAY WITH IT HEHEHE ^_^
fixed.

I dislike how Classics is an overarchingly male-dominated field. I am literally the least offensively feminist person I know, meaning, I'm only feminist in the sense that I want my thoughts and opinions to be taken seriously when they have some legitimate weight, and I've found professors, especially old man professors, come at girls with a really "Oh how cute, she's talking about grammar" attitude. When I tested into 400 level classes freshman year.

History, I have no problem with whatsoever. But I think I got lucky with cool professors.

>>3850952
Even so, that's 4, at least two of which who didn't have any original ideas. Not the biggest shout out for female individual thinkers really...

>>3850952
Well, Women's Studies is basically revisionist history. Anon is right that they weren't that influential and it can be argued that society wouldn't let them be, but it's still true.

I'll make you a deal. You can keep Women's Studies IF YOU GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY LITERATURE COURSES, GOD DAMN.

Archaeology/Classics double major.

Archaeology: every single god-damn person thinks they're going to end up as Indiana Jones/Relic Hunter/Lara Croft. They are rage inducingly ignorant of the research/academic side(read, majority) of the field.

Classics: egos abound that laugh at you for not being familiar with obscure persons/events/sites, etc. Very holier than thou.

>>3851102

>Archaeology: every single god-damn person thinks they're going to end up as Indiana Jones/Relic Hunter/Lara Croft. They are rage inducingly ignorant of the research/academic side(read, majority) of the field.

Here here.

>>3851118
Stephen was the first Christian martyr, not the first martyr KILLED by Christians.

>>3851148
You're right, I misread. I deleted the post.

The ranks of the philosophy majors are choked with nutty little cunts that are only here because they think they're being deep and think other people will think they are deep. There are more posers than you can possibly imagine, and they all have even less clue what they're going to apply this major to than I do, but they're sure that whatever it is they've come up with is SO IMPORTANT ZOMG WORLDCHANGING OBSERVATIONS SAID IN A LOFTY TONE!

While you might think that philosophy posers would all be those kids that looked up Nietzsche on the Internet and just cut out all his most edgy, hip quotes (lol God is Dead, yo, I'm hardcore), the surprising majority of self-important cunts here actually drop Kant's name left and right. It has nothing to do with being able to talk about Kant or discuss his philosophy, it's just a pseudo-intellectual, appeal-to-authority shield they throw down. Completely arbitrarily chosen. "Well, but dude, what about Kant. He said something else. Ok, I'm going for coffee. I won, by the way."

So, tl;dr version:
Philosophy, DICKS EVERYWHERE!

To everyone who genuinely has a gripe with their field: if it's really your field, go out there and change it for fuck's sake.

There are basically two main types of film students, and they both suck ass.

First there are the pretentious ones who think they know everything. In a film studies class, they think they're the only ones who understand the films the class is watching, and they blurt out unrelated trivia to seem smart. In film production classes, if no one likes their films, they think that everyone in the class just "didn't get it" and that everyone else's films are shallow and rubbish.

Then there's the dumb type, who are only majoring in cinema because they like movies and couldn't think of anything else to major in. When they make movies, they usually only want to make it big.

It's hard for any real talent to break through, or any potential talent to get noticed and guided to even minor success, because the industry is so full of jackasses and fucktards, so most film students end up as teachers or film historians if they don't give up on it completely. And there are a bunch of people with film degrees working shitty jobs at movie theaters because they want to stay close to what they love, but they can't get a real job that involves film.


And as for zoology, it's full of creepy people with creepy obsessions over certain animals. But other than that, not so much I find wrong with it.

economics was ruined as a field by Randian objectivists with a gigantic hardon for physics

I hate how Historians think they are sociologists or even qualified to make sociological observations about history. Fuck, my history professor rarely even talks about history. Instead he rambles on and on about the shifts in culture and how our culture has shifted today because of that shift. afasdasf[opas gjp
KLt;3raz

>>3851234
Aah, there's another influential female philosopher, Ayn Rand. See, pretty much every field has the undeniable influence of female thinking in some way. I'm personally not a huge fan of Ayn Rand's philosophy (my last professor was HUGE into Rand, so I never heard the end of it, her girlfriend was cool though).

>>3850806
Hypatia wasn't influential at all. She has been re-imagined by the naturalist community as some kind of martyr for science. However, she was a pagan and therefore delusional, just like christfags.

>>3851250
>Ayn Rand
>Philosopher

No no no. No worthwhile philosopher takes Ayn Rand seriously.

>>3851234
My current econ professor has about a half dozen Rand books in his office and tries to trick us by calling the Cato institute impartial because "it has criticisms of both Democrats and Republicans". Also libertarian = economically sound. Nevermind why things like minimum wage and transfer payments are there in the first place, they don't help us attain equilibrium.

>>3851207
Sometimes you can't have everything you want. Compromising to pick the best major of what's available is what people do.

Political science: Full of morons who want to work for the UN, Amnesty or any other fly-ass humanitarian organization

>>3851302
What's wrong with wanting to work for humanitarian organizations?

>>3851298
economics as it currently stands is thinly veiled political activism on behalf of the oligarchs on Wall Street.

My economics professor is a Marxist, so I don't have any problems with her. It's nice to learn Economics from someone who understands that Capitalism is just another economic system and not some kind of religion.

>>3851325
This. No other academic field has been so compromised by the plutocrats than Economics. Professors are often on the payroll of huge financial institutions.

>>3851322

Nothing, of course. The problem is that everyone wants to be a diplomat or ambassador, not realizing how difficult it really is. Dreams are free, though.

Half of the students in my class (senior year mech engineering) don't know shit about the real world. It's cool that you can draw something in Solidworks, but if you don't know anything about machining schematics or buying parts, then you're basically worthless to your employer.

>>3851238
History majors are better than sociologists. At least we have useful knowledge.

>>3851381
I love solidworks. Just fun to play around in. Although I imagine you'd have no idea how to use it if you didnt take a class on it, much like GIS software.

>>3850583
I like this post. I'm planning to take a bachelor in musical composition myself, and I hope I'll be able to avoid coming off as the same kind of snobby elitist. Considering the amount of popularity they've managed to gain with this attitude, it's quite clear that it needs to be done another way.

Computer science fag here.

Hate the "HURRR ANTI SOCHUL" stereotype other than that I like it a lot.

I'm a design student, but we're in the same college/building as photo kids.

I hate the photo kids. Goddamn hipsters, the lot of them.

Historyfag here. I hate how some proffs become obsessed solely with social-history and completely ignore economic/political/military events. Furthermore, i loath it when a proff will mention a term during a lecture, perhaps say one or two small things about it, and then on an exam expect you to deliver an entire paragraph explaining what it is.

>>3850952
>>3850952
HEY FUNNY TITLE FOR THAT VINDICATION THING

OH WAIT IT WAS WRITTEN WITH MAN IN THE TITLE FIRST

COOL ORIGINAL THOUGHTS MARY

>>3851302
I was more thinking along the lines of the Department of State.

Foreign Service Officer sounds about right.

>>3851238

I fucking hate it when sociologists think they're historians. It's a fucking laugh riot reading Gorski/Adams, et al attempt to explain early modern state development. Stay the fuck out of my discipline you faggots.

>>3851522
OH WAIT, IT WAS DECLARATION, NOT VINDICATION, THUS PROVING I AM A SHIT EATING COCKFAG

As an art student, I used to frequently have to quarrel with people who take it way too seriously. I have however gotten over it, and instead use big words that don't mean anything to convince these people that my work is deeper than theirs.

I always make that shit up after the fact. My art friends think my work is super deep, but my really close friends know I just like to make shit that looks cool.

>>3851569
Sorry, I got a bit heated thinking about how much I hate assholes trying to champion the laughably inane regurgitation of ideas that Wollstonecraft wrote.

I tend to forget words when my mind is clouded by rage. Care to enlighten me as to why I should listen to your opinion when I've already wrote many papers tearing her and her ilk to shreds?

I hate how every faggot who can play a few chords on an acoustic guitar thinks he's some kind of incredible musician, so he decides to be a music major. Then bitches about how hard it is to learn piano, how hard it is to learn music theory, blah blah blah. Nevermind that about 90% of them are incredibly close-minded about their music choices. Its like /mu/ IRL.

Seriously, if its too hard for you, go do something else. I'm stuck at a fucking community college right now because of my grades, but professors/musicians that have heard me play (piano, thank you) say I'm more than good enough for conservatories. But in the meantime, I'm surrounded by failures.

At least half of these assholes are convinced they're going to transfer to Berklee (30% acceptance rate and dropping) and... idk, Berklee is just their fucking ticket to whatever.

>>3851594

This is exactly how I feel about music sometimes. Assuming you are male, I would suck your cock endlessly if I was female. But unfortunately, I am male. You sound cool though.

>>3851609
here btw.

>>3851545
WELL STAY THE FUCK OUT OF OURS THEN! Fuck.

>>3850583

What conservatory, sir?

Fucking Historians think they're so fucking great just because they rip off other works and focus on bullshit boring fields of study. Fuck.

And fucking christ, I'm one of them and I do it too.

>>3851655
Sociology is a branch of History my friend. We historians own you fags.

I hate how every other weeaboo who can barely draw a decent line decides to go into art.

I hate how every pot head who can slap a doodle on paper goes into art.

I hate how half the class spends barely any time on their projects, and still passes.

Computer science here

I'd say 90% of the kids are antisocial/wowfaggots/magiccardfaggots.

Also there are 4 girls in my course, none good looking.

Zoology.

Mostly my problems are with the students; 3/4 of the students in this field really don't give a shit about the actual material or the science itself, they merely are using the major as a stepping stone to veterinary college or med school.

They complain constantly about the tests being too hard because god forbid you get tested on your ability to integrate concepts rather than mindlessly regurgitate facts.

Also, they only want to learn about a handful of organisms, 'herp derp i like rabbits durr i don't want to learn about insects.'

They don't appreciate the history behind the field, 'I named my hamster Huxley' 'After T. H. Huxley, Darwin's bulldog I presume?' 'Ohhhh is that who Huxley is I thought he was a composer.'

They have no respect for the scientific method, why the hell are you here then?

I swear these kids are so fail it's unbelievable.

Law students are either jaded motherfuckers who want to become corporate lawyers or personal injury attorneys, or they are idealist pro-bono faggots who want to work for Amnesty International or some other BS organization.

>>3851298
your econ professor is stupid and bad at his job.

Computational Linguistics fag here. (FUUU why don't we have a proper word for it, in German it's called Computerlinguistik). Anyway, in my university the computational linguistics people are stuck halfway between the arts and sciences faculties. To the CSfags we're the languagefags, to the languagefags we're the CSfags. Shit sucks.

Former englishfag here. Criticism is so much crap. I'm a physicsfag now and much happier for it.

OP again-- wow, I did not expect the thread to last so long.

>>3851298
Yeah, your professor sounds like an ass. I'm sorry. I think I got lucky with the mix I've had so far-- one has a hard-on for Keynes, another one really despises the "financial engineering" aspect that gets pushed, and the last is in LOVE with capitalism and thinks that the form it takes in America today is terrible because it supports big companies too much, and then expects poor countries not to support theirs.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE DOLLA DOLLA BILLS, YA'LL!

That's why I'm studying law, my niggers.

>>3851234
Physicsfag here, why do economists have such a hardon for mathematical determinism when physicists stopped caring about that shit once we started figuring out QM?

Englishfag here. I'm a writing major, but my uni only offers like, two classes a goddamn semester. Everything else is ultra-pretentious lit classes filled with douchebags.

I can't fucking STAND literature classes.

My freshman year, we read "Hills Like White Elephants." Some crazy bitch in the back of the room says: "As I was reading the part where the woman talks about Absinthe, I kept thinking of the word "Absent", like, the baby was going to be "Absent" soon."

I facepalmed in the front of the class, and the Professor asked if I disagreed.

YES. BECAUSE THAT IS FUCKING RETARDED. SHE SAYS ABSINTHE BECAUSE THEY ARE DRINKING ANISE, NOT BECAUSE OF SUPER-DEEP ABORTION STORY.

>>3851535

Cool story, bro, I too desire to work for the foreign service. Hopefully by the time I have my qualifications together Harper will be out of office.

Also, a word of warning. The American Foreign Service is ridiculously under-funded. All the money got diverted to Iraq and other military spending.

>>3852197
What kind of shitty, small ass uni do you go to where the lecturer asks you questions during a lecture?

Too many mousy girls in English who luuuuurve Jane Austen.

Cognitive Science, reporting in.

Whenever we're arguing with philosophers, we back ourselves up by referring to psychology (Empirical studies, yar!).

Whenever we're arguing with psychologists, we back ourselves up by referring to philosophy (We see the big picture blah blah...).

We're silly.

>>3852074
what's law school like?

>>3852223

It's a Literature class. There really aren't lectures. We sit around and talk about books while retards like that stupid bitch try to find symbolism in fucking everything.

>>3852254
What a waste of time - study something useful.

I think all of us can agree that 90% of college girls are fucking retarded.

>>3852266

I'm not a Lit. major.

>>3852266

pro-tip: If your classes are ever too big for your professor to converse with students, you're either in first year or at a shitty university.

>>3852229
It's all you got, plus... you guys should be focusing on the computational aspects of cognition. The philosophy and psychology can come after we understand the mechanics. Honestly... if we work hard enough we could become the first line towards the ghost in the shell.

>>3852288

The only exception, would be general-survey courses. Outside of Harvard/Oxford, et al, you'll be very hard pressed to find a first year survey course that is intimate.

Biotech
>>3851750
>Mostly my problems are with the students; 3/4 of the students in this field really don't give a shit about the actual material or the science itself, they merely are using the major as a stepping stone to veterinary college or med school.
Same fucking problem here, our fucking class is overpopulated with this fuckers and because of that we have to take shifts of two weeks to use the laboratories!!!!!
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>3852294

Thank you for saying that we need to understand the computational parts of cognition, but so many fuckwits think cognition's not actually computational we actually do have to spend a lot of time philosophically defending ourselves. :(.

>>3852335
This is why I am taking Cog-sci computation while doing my Pre-Med. All those lazy BioChem majors that are pretty much in it on the hopes of getting into med school SICKEN ME!

>>3852288
Ha ha, oh wow. You're full of shit.

>>3849194
Shit, economics major here as well, I love you, that's exactly what I hate about the subject.

Fuuuckkk. Can someone tell me if I should major in accounting or mathematics? Which one offers a better future career?

>>3852352
Its not computational, you piece of shit. Computers are serial and linear. The human brain is parallel and nonlinear.

And don't try and talk about quad cores with me, its not fucking analogous.

>>3852557
It seems both offer relatively secure future careers, but what would you rather learn?

>>3852557
mathematics

you can still go onto accounting but it leaves the door open to way more career fields

all you can do with an accounting degree is accounting

>>3852577

I'm not too sure. But I know I'll do very well in both (I'm good at math). What kind of jobs will I be looking at if I took mathematics?

International Development: typical student - "hurr. education solves everything."

really, well, how the fuck do we fund and implement nation-wide education programs that fit your ridiculous specifications for curriculum and equal opportunity.

seriously, discussions were just one big clusterfuck of rainbow-touting, pot-smoking hippies who never gave half a thought to reality.

>>3852602
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=math+degree+careers

As I understand it, accountancy only requires a bachelor's degree and satisfaction of the regional certification exam. Do you really need to study for four years to pass this exam?

>>3852602

look up Career Cruising

>>3852624
should have studied Econ and just taken Economic Development and Economics of Health and Education classes

>>3852663
i moved towards public health and BioMed/public health as the years went on. so long as i kept towards graduate-level seminars it made it a lot better. but those first two years were rough i tell you.

if those kids are any indication of those going into the non-profit and development field, well, the developing world is fucked.

>>3852572

Hey look, one of them jumped out of the woodwork already, and this is why cog sci needs a lot of philosophy to defend it.

The specimen at hand is a rather poor one though, to deflect it all we need to point out is that computation and parallel are not mutually exclusive.

Ecology.

I'm studying Biological Sciences. One of our tutors spent the first semester forcing the fact that "SCIENCE IS BASED ON EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE GUYS" down our throats.

He then spends the second semester trying to desperately justify his job as an ecology lecturer. NO FUCKING EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE.

Seriously. Fuck you ecology.

Physics, fuck! You're not going to be the next Einstein your freshman year, or probably never if you stick to the curriculum.

>>3852557

Mathematics

accounting is a practice designed around the complexity and inertia of our modern tax system.

I'm math majoring. It's not a secret that this is a field filled with men. Many of the guys who specialize in this field are annoying as fuck too.

>>3850922
Yeah, because George Orwell could easily have written 1984 without Rosa's theories.
He figure out out the Economic theory in that book on his own.

journalist here. i can't stand how my peers just keep repeating over and over OH MY GOD! JOURNALISM IS DYING! INTERNET DOOMED US!

fucking faggots need to learn that journalism is a field that is constantly changing, and we should be happy that everyone can now publish what they think and reach millions by doing it.

oh, and liberals everywhere.

>>3850724
There are no women in Science, either. Marie Curie got the Nobel Prize, but actually her husband did all the discovering. She got the Prize because the Feminists of 200 years ago forced the Nobel Prize commission to give the prize to a woman or else.

>>3852781
All the worst people I've known in college so far have been in journalism. Every journalist ever since the Nixon administration thinks they're going to discover the next Watergate and unironically use terms like "speak truth to power".

visual art. the only thing i dont like is telling other people im doing it. so much stereotyping..

>>3851292
Let's imagine any of you fucks as the head of the Library at Alexandria. It would take a lot of imagination and in the end not even in that realm that would be possible.

>>3852770
He was mostly imspired by his personal experiences of society before the second world war, including his years in poverty. See "Down and out in Paris and London". I doubt he gave a fuck about Rosa Luxemburg.

>>3852803
>>3852803
>>3852803

hey! hey now

no she didn't really do as much as people generally seem to believe

but they actually did do the discovering TOGETHA

also Nobel prize was originally offered to him, he insisted it should be joint

and also after Pierre was dead, it is hard to see how he would have done all of Marie's work from that point

>>3852813
EXACTLY!

i went into journalism because its basically a job that you get paid to tell a story or (if you are lucky/good enough) discover a story. what i did not enter it was to change the world with dah powah of the press, thats ridiculous.

and yes, what you described is basically what a first year journalism student thinks.

ARCHITECTURE.

Way too hardcore for something so silly. All architecture schools are highly competitive, so the only way to get ahead is to essentially say goodbye to your former life and immerse yourself in your work. You start hanging out with only other arch students, sleeping and eating in the studio, forgetting what it's like in the real world, and in the end it turns you into some dickhole with ideas so far removed from anything that the general public (the real users of architecture) can relate to that they end up thinking it's garbage anyway. And you know what? It is. Fuck you Frank Gehry.

Architecture is where people who can't draw go because they want to make money doing something creative, but the way it's set up churns out reductionist faggots who can't just admit to themselves that it's better to make something beautiful than to make something that conveys a complex idea.

My cock in all of your mouths.

I like my majors. The only thing I dislike is stupid kids taking up space in the courses, when they're not majoring in it or don't know what they want to do.

>>3852713
By using the analogy of computation as a way of viewing brain function, you lose insights that could be gained by viewing it as a dynamical system. Brains are brains, they are not computers nor are they Turing machines. One cannot account for variability and random chance that occurs in a single neuron let alone in a local system of neurons.

And this computational analogy does not even take into account local historical ecological systems or embodiment of the brain. Brains operate on an entirely different level then any type of mechanistic paradigm.

>>3853085

You're smarter but still missing the point.

Computation isn't as nasty and small-minded it's often made out to be. It's fine to have an embedded computational system. It's fine to have an unpredictable computational system (say, because some neurons 'want' to hog resources).

What's important about computation is that it involves representations, and operations on those representations. That's it. That's what brains do. Embed and embody them, fine, what it's all about is representations and processing them.

>>3852967
This is why being a civil engineer sucks; the motherfucking homosexual architects.

>>3853201
How the Body shapes the Mind by Shaun Gallagher.

Go read it.

>>3853223
Yeah? Well, guess what? Fuck you to calculator boy.

99% of law students are self-serving douchebags in the greatest sense.

Either they want to go in to law just because it pays very well and is relatively stable (unless you go to a shit school, lawl), or they want to make themselves feel good about planning on "helping other people" after law school when we all know they'll go into corporate to pay off their $100k debt.

I feel like I'm the only one who's studying it because it interests me so much. Everyone else does it for practical reasons, which isn't necessarily bad; I just wish more of my peers enjoyed studying law for its being the most interesting thing on this planet.

>>3853223

Well let's be honest. Being a civil engineer sucks because you're a fucking CIVIL ENGINEER, but I'm sure taking instructions from a pretentious, near-autistic jackass architect can't help much.

>>3853256

The body's role in cognition ain't a problem for the computational (note: 'computers' are a subset of 'computational things', not the other way around). nature of the mind. Let's have a group hug.

Physics here. It takes an assload of time to do anything remotely interesting, as far as your work is concerned but more importantly your profs. I've never even met a prof that didn't have a million things to due all within the next week or two. They're usually nice guys, just extremely busy. It's kind of nice knowing that there will always be something to get done and something that needs doing. But it's annoying spending an entire day in lab to figure out that your sample is blown and you wasted four hours cooling down to 4K for nothing. :(

I seriously hate Java. Everyone dances around, saying that because it can be used everywhere, it's going to rule the world, and that it's the greatest object-oriented paradigm out there.

Well, I have news for you, dipshits. Number one, there's a much BETTER ubiquitous language out there (well, it takes a little effort to get it working in Windows, but what doesn't?) and it's called PYTHON. (Prolog, if you prefer nice high-level languages).

Number two, Java is in no way a seamless object-oriented language. As soon as you get even slightly graphical, it becomes a fucking horrible hybrid of OO, procedural and event-driven programming.

So yeah. Javafags can fuck right off, sorry.

Animation. Vancouver used to be a great city for it, has a rich history of animation studios, but now they all just run on skeleton crews and have most of the work shipped overseas to be completed with very very poor quality. The producers with the money dont take any chances and will not make a show that treats children like anything other than complete retards. The animation industry in japan always does alright, though it is very competitive etc, but at least they make a variety of shows for different cross sections of society. Instead of just making retarded kids shows, or late night poorly done adult shit joke shows like adult swim. My teachers worked in this industry when it was all just pencils and paper, now many animation jobs are snagged by morons that couldn't draw to save their life. Computers enable the stupid to pose as animators. Animation if about understanding life and movement, giving the illusion of life to an inanimate character. Some people just try to kinda get by and move the characters around a little without adding any of the essential life to it that in my oppinion is what animation is about, and also what it is by definition. Every job I have got in the past 3 years in this industry have been sinister assholes looking to exploit the young passionate artists that crop up.

I am thinking of giving up and leaving this industry for good unless something changes drastically soon.

If you are a highschool fag Im warning you pick something lucrative, not animation.

Software Engineering, but due to "new" major I wound up spending time around the more numerous IST and CS crowd.

CS: Fucking nerds. Sure you can code complex problems and all, but that's pretty much it. As it turns out there's precious little actual Computer Science work out there; that is, stuff like programming language analysis and all that kind of research so most of your skills will go to waste. You basically either wind up working for Microsoft or some other big corporation like that or being a code monkey.

IST: Fucking idiots. If CS' problems is that they know nothing but coding and mathematical analysis of said code, IST's problem is that they know nothing about those fields. You don't know how to code, document code, or anything for shit. You might kid yourself into thinking that you're learning skills to manage stuff like programming projects, but chances are it won't matter since it's not an actual Business degree and managerial work isn't something you get out of the gate. IST is basically high functioning tech support and network admins for a company. Enjoy servicing a company's laptops and LAN for all eternity.

SE: We're technically supposed to be some kind of high fallutin' mix of CS, Business, and general Engineering doctrines. Precious few of us actually are; most of us are just CS or IST with a different name on the diploma, depending on which college you're under.

>>3853599
I feel your pain. The number of people around me who have no fucking idea how their skills relate to the world around them... o.o

>>3849666
OH GOD THE CREATIVE WRITERS. I really really hate them. Mostly when I'm told I could have got a first in a CW degree by now based on just my idle writings, instead of burning life and braincells on CompSci.

>>3853454
Of course it doesn't because the computational model is very limited and as such can only gain limited insights. It does not account for cascading events and nuances from connected systems like the body, these events which influence how the neuronal system functions.

>>3852394

Not all biochem majors want to go into medicine, thx.

>>3853291
Law student here. I'm only going to end up $27K in debt due to law school.

Also, you are a massive faggot. The law is hardly interesting--let alone the most interesting thing on the planet. The law is nothing more than human opinion. Guess where you can find those? Everywhere.

The only thing that makes the legal field worthwhile is litigation. Everything else is boring as hell. If you didn't sign up for law school in order to become a real lawyer, then fuck you for taking up the seat of someone who could have actually contributed to the legal system.

>>3852967
>Frank Gehry

THANK YOU

I swear to god, I'm an LAfag and the Disney Hall is not a building, it is terrorism. Such fucking pretentiousness is insulting, and I'm just grateful that nobody in this city gives a shit about art otherwise. Frank Gehry is a faggot, and he will be dead soon, and the world will be a little bit sweeter for it.

I'm doing a Computer Games Development degree (in b4 "hurr game degrees are a waste of time) and it pisses me off no end how little the people on my course are interested in games programming. Or, in fact, in games in general. There are people on my course who have never played, I shit you not, Super Mario Brothers. They also don't know jack shit about technology in general, I've been trying to explain to several fucktards on my course how OnLive will be a laggy piece of shit and they just don't get it.

>>3852967
>>3853790
Samefag here (non-architect), what I find so hilarious about Frank Gehry is that his buildings aren't even fucking functional. He made a millions of dollars a year error at MIT, and the disney hall heated random sections of the sidewalk to like 150 degrees or some shit. He's so fucking stupid.

Also, architect, if you are still here,
what the hell happened to art deco?

We all fucking loved that shit. Bring it back

Music major here:


People who take up music as a career are generally insane or become insane. At my school, the music majors are, for the most part, sociopaths. The amount of competition between everyone is kind of nuts especially considering we all go to the same shitty music department. The music department is like you'd expect it to be, a bunch of overgrown band geeks who still haven't had sex yet at 22 and walk around constantly talking about Mahler 5 and other shit. THEN there's these music sororities/fraternities, GOD DAMN, they are the stupidest, ugliest, fattest people i've ever known. I can't even begin to describe how screwed up in the head these people are.

>>3853801

The other fucking irritating thing is how the course is new, and not all of our units are entirely relevent. I mean, we do plenty of programming, program design and project management but sometimes we'll get completely bullshit, irrelevent units to pad it out with.

Also, the industry bitches about how so many games courses don't produce what they want and they do absolutely fuck all to help. They expect them to churn out professional game programmers with 12 years of experience across all platforms, it's fucking unrealistic.

>>3853929
God yes. The fucking self-important assholes in KKY and TBS make me want to stab them in the face. They CHOOSE to be in a "band service" fraternity/sorority, then bitch at the people who aren't members and don't help. The worst part is they are only one aspect of the music department. The sheer amount of elitist assholes in the music program has made me want to change majors so many times. Then you have the pretentious freshman who think that they don't NEED music theory or piano to understand music. Where the fuck are the normal musicians who understand there is a middle-ground between being ignorant of your craft and being an elitist asshole?

I study Human Geography. And there is literally nothing I can find to complain about, apart from people going "Hurrrrr...so whats the capital of Chile?"

>>3854138
Amen to that, fellow music major. The people are out of their minds. For instance, last year I was in the worst ensemble in the department (concert band) because I was a freshmen and freshman have to be in it. Then this year I was put into orchestra and bumped this gross fat trumpet girl out because my audition was better than hers. I've gotten shit for this all year. People are constantly talking behind my back and talking about how crappy I am, though I somehow magically ended up in a high position then them. lol, idk. Not saying I'm great, i'm nowhere near even moderately good if i was at a conservatory. But the girl I dethroned is this fat SAI bitch who still thinks she's better than me.

And you're right about the freshman; so many kids come in saying, 'i liked band in highschool,' or 'i can plan smoke on the water on my guitar, i think i'll be a music major,' and they're gone within a few weeks.

I major in Sand Nigger Extermination, and go to Camp Pendalton University. My first semester professors were real douchebags.

>>3854137

The thing about company expectations is pretty common throughout the computerish industry. Or at least it was; a lot of the decent (read: not bankrupt yet) places understand that yeah, your fresh entry level hires are going to need a lot of learning time, and even your experienced professionals need to get used to how you do things.

But game development is a wasteland of idiots in all facets. If you really want to make games, just do a normal CS/SE/IST degree and take the game dev courses for your optional credits. Then get a normal soul-crushing day job and make homebrew stuff in your free time, iPhone is pretty good for this. Once you've got a portfolio filled out and have made decent progress into paying off student loans through dayjob, start looking for game dev jobs.

when you get to the graduate level in CS. There are no girls. Like they don't exist. And if they did, they wouldn't be cute. Everything else about CS rocks so hard.

Architecture here. I hate the faggots who enjoy that contemporary bullshit. I prefer a more rugged wooden style, such as the Pasadena Craftsman style. I like wooden homes with detailing. I dislike plain white homes for modern artists. Matter of taste I suppose. I've had professors that share and oppose my tastes.

There's 5 girls in my entire class, none are good looking.

>>3854541
D'ya get a war face?

I've pretty much noticed a trend here. Any major that has any practical application and ends with a good job is sparsely populated by good looking females. What does this all mean?

>>3854551 again

Now that I think about it, trying to get into the PC/console game market is fucking stupid. It's an amazingly cannibalistic field filled with people who are either greedy, stupid, or both. The market for it is rather small and doesn't even know what it wants.

You want to make money? Learn Flash and start making those crappy "lunchbreak" style games you see people playing. Or learn Java and make cell phone games for poor people to buy on their Sidekicks or whatever. Stuff like Tetris, Bejeweled, whatever that puzzle game is on Steam. That kind of thing. Money fucking rolls in, especially compared to the time/energy you spent making it.

>>3854625
nursing much?

>>3854629
Can't blame 'em. xbox hueg projects like Total War Empire are always buggy and bloated and huge and expensive, but shit like peggle costs 10 bux and anyone can enjoy it.

>>3854634
But then you have to be a nurse....

Double major here.

I hate how Theatre is so, for the most part, filled with childish drama queens and people get so jealous over others being favored temporarily.

I hate how Psychology undergrad classes are TOO FUCKING EASY GIVE ME A CHALLENGE I CAN TAKE IT GODDAMMIT!!!

CS/Philosophy double major.

I hate how CS is being dumbed down. At my school you're only required to take one calc and linear algebra paper and one discrete math paper. You can even skip the discrete math one if you dumb down your degree even further (ie. take no theoretical CS papers). There's kids at my school who major in CS and their degree consists of nothing but java, networking and web development papers. What a fucking joke, that isn't computer science.

Also, in CS there is too much of a focus on programming. We should be learning a lot more math, and learning more about scientific computing - using mathematica/matlab/etc and also statistical computing. Learning java in one course, then c# in another doesn't actually teach you anything new, you just do exactly the same shit using different keywords. We could have learned all the programming necessary in first year then done only scientific computing and theory after that. FUCK.

I don't have any major problems with philosophy as a subject. I think it's a great subject to learn, and I think the way it's taught is usually very good. The only gripe I have is that there isn't enough focus on formal logic. It would be nice if every philosophy student was made to take extensive courses in logic, and logic was used more thoroughly in all non-logic papers. The other problem with studying philosophy is philosophy students. A large portion of them are stupid flakes and stoners. But there are enough intelligent people there to make up for it.