You're just mad no one wants to touch your genitals.

What the hell is with with people spawning so many opinions?

>>3737064
breederfaggot

anti-breeder reporting in!

I propose we spread a virus that'll make 90% of humanity infertile

Kids are annoying shits. Fuck breeders.

I disagree, breeders are pretty good.

....pixies are better though.

>>3737064
DO I SMELL ENTITLEMOO?!

>>3737075
Clive Owen would like to have a word with you sir.

I guess you could say I'm against breeders as well, but I don't have anything against kids really.
kids are cute and our future, but we don't need to get so many of them.
Why do we have to be so many on this planet?
One of many disadvantages is that virii and bacterias have it much easier to mutate and spread in large, and dense human populations.

>>3737085

I see what you did there... and it reminded me I've never got around to downloading any of their stuff.

Me too. Nothing makes me more mad than seeing a woman in her early 20s holding a child that's her own. Fuck, I also hate women whose only goal in life is to have children. They have no personality.

>>3737107
No pixies? You're missing out, bro.

>>3737114

Yes, the reason why most catholic southamericans are simply not wife material.

:c

My dream is to one day travel the world (except africa), impregnating as many women as I can in each country.

If you don't like it, that's too fucking bad. My descendants will piss on your graves.

yeah i hate breeding.. kids are ok.. its just makes me sad that the idiots "teaching" them will make them as stupid as the current generation is.. if not worse. hell, who cares really, i will adapt to anything life brings, and have fun doing it.

really though, for a dood kids are.. lol a joke. seriously.. ok lets say you want a kid.. loss of money from clothes/food/medicine.. loss of time due to attention whoring from wife and kid both.. and in the end what is your reward for all this? well.. if its a girl you get to pay for their wedding.. or if its a guy you get to enjoy the smugness of having a successful son.. this is assuming you have a "normal" child. you could have a retard.. or have any number of defects. or you could have a 4chan ronery virgin. this is all assuming you actually want to be a father.. otherwise you pay child support. either way you lose overall.

child making is a choice NOW. it was less so in the past when there was no birth control or understanding of hormones etc. i choose to take a rational view of life.. pluses vs negatives. dating and marriage and babies are a HUGE negative that way outweighs the positives. however, thats just from my perspective. i can respect others that value different things that would get more positives.

that being said, it pisses me off that my balls insist that girls are the best thing ever.. omg these hormones will last forever.. this time.. hey ignore every single other time they faded away.. this time its SPECIAL. omg that girl is pretty looking, she will complete you and make you happy forever!!!!111. i know these are lies, but still i get these thoughts with a little endorphines to motivate me.. and its fucking annoying that i have to talk myself out of it all the damn time. i know i could cut off my balls.. but fuck. i still like the attention i get from girls, even if i just reject them.

>>3737217

You'll die a virgin, but keep on dreamin.

Most of the people who are reproducing should be stabbed in the head with a dull blade. They carry kilotons of unresolved emotional garbage and pass the hot potato to their doomed from the start children, in the hope that it will magically make things better. They either hate the guts of the little shits, or smother them. Either way, they're not fit to be decent human beings, and should never be allowed to breed any.

Everytime i see a pregnant woman in the street, or a couple with small children, i try and scan their faces to see whether they are decent people. In most of the cases i want to punch the shit out of their dumbass heads, and i pity the children who will grow up to be the same sad and broken fucks their parents are.

>>3737275
i lol'd
this is probably true. everyone has this dream, but when you get to other countries, you need game to score as an american.

we're not seen as we once were... except in germany, german girls really dig americans

I hate kids and I hate how annoying people become when they have kids.

You guys REALLY want to rage over something? Take a look at the Quiverfull movement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull

Enjoy.

I FUCKING HATE THE BREEDERS

LOOK WHAT THEY DID TO MY EX-DELICIOUS KIM DEAL

>>3737248

Children aren't an expense. They're the wealth. They're what makes life more meaningful than fapping to camwhores and buying whatever plastic crap amuses you. Parents are fully members of the human race. You are not. You're a byproduct, a stone on the roadside while the rest of the Race marches forth. Thanks for playing.

At most, I just want to have one or two of my own, but not until I'm well established financially and I don't have to put my kids through the crap I had to grow up with, with my parents living on paycheck to paycheck since it was too late to abort me. What's up with all these people that are all like "OH THIS BABY IS A PRECIOUS GIFT FROM GOD I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL LATER"? It gets even worse when they have more than one. Instead of having like fifty kids, I'd rather just have a couple that I know I could actually give all my attention to and support them in whatever higher education they wanted to pursue.

I also want to adopt as many as I can comfortably support. I've had some friends who were in shitty foster homes, and their life stories are soul crushingly depressing. Why are those breeding retards out there pumping out more kids when there are unknown millions waiting for a happy ending to all their suffering? Just to imprint their faces on a new generation? Fucking ridiculous.

brotip: "Breeder" is a slur used by gays to label straights. I learned this from a random chat on that random anonymous chat site.

>>3737426
FUCK YOU SHE'S MINE

ANYWAY, SHE WAS GOING DOWNHILL BY TROMPE LE MONDE

>>3737459

This. If you do not pass on your genes, you have failed at life.

>>3737248
Why is it so common to see people who can't punctuate or spell complaining about 'idiotic sheeple'?

I'm not keen on rampant breeding, but i don't hate life itself, as you seem to. Think about it. Why devote yourself to escapism if you're not frantic to escape life?
You're an animal like everyone else, and we have deep psychological needs reflecting what used to be instinctive. The need to mate is one of them; denying yourself by saying "that makes no sense" or "that will be financially detrimental" is idiotic. Do whatever it is will make you happy, whether it's clean and logical or not.

Here's an article i think is relevant. I wouldn't go along with everything or even most of what it's author believes, but this itself is worth reading.
http://www.anus.com/zine/articles/prozak/meme/

(I don't know why they picked that name either...)

I could give many reasons as I have many, but my latest one is that women who spawn this shitting fleshbags out tend to think they are the most amazing, best humans on the face of the earth just because they spread their legs one too many times. Womens' inflated egos based on having children is absolutely disgusting.

>>3737609
*that will make you happy
*its

And of course it has to happen when i'm being a grammar nazi...

>>3737459
An additional child means another individual that I have to share the natural resources on this planet with.
If we were to decrease our numbers say ten-fold, being instead 600 millions - each and everyone of us would be living ten times more comfortable in ideal conditions.

Completely agree.

I cannot stand people who think their purpose in life is to get married and start popping out children. Usually these people are conservative twats who have it so deeply implanted into their minds that this is what they are supposed to do.

The real problem with this is that it is the ignorant and religious people who are breeding like rabbits. These are the last people we want to be popping out 10 kids and producing another generation of retards. Most of the intelligent people do not want kids or rather stick to 1 or 2 because they actually rationalize the consequences of their actions ahead of time. These are the people who realize how great contraception is and take advantage of it.

tl;dr The vagina is NOT a fucking clown car.

>>3737563
Tesla did not pass on his genes

did he fail at life?

>>3737658
Ha. This reminded me of my family so much. Most of them are conservative southern baptists with hordes of children.

My grandmother had five kids and one miscarriage. She wanted to have more but my grandfather told her to FUCKING STOP.
My aunt had seven kids, could barely raise any of them and now she's stuck raising five grandchildren.

My mom had me, and I was born with a genetic disorder. However she still wanted MOAR despite the fact that the chance of my sibling being born with this or a different disorder was very high. My dad promptly got a vasectomy. That man is my hero.

>>3737718

By nature's definition, absolutely. You exist only to propagate your species. This is the singular goal of all life on earth.

If you do not procreate, you have failed at your biological preragotive and your unsuccessfull traits are not passed on.

Self-selected or not, you have failed.

>>3737828
But hasn't he contributed enough to society that people who would have died without his inventions lived and passed on their genes? In other words, while he may not have directly contributed to the gene pool, he's hardly a failure. This is what separates us from animals. (inb4 monkeys, dolphins, etc.)

>>3737828
yeah, tesla really failed hard compared to the super successful redneck moms with their 15 children. stupid, stupid tesla

>>3737873

He had a impact on the social structure of his species, certainly, but he was a Beta Male.

>>3737991

Not accounting for the fact that he practically had to keep the ladies at bay with a stick (for SCIENCE!!!! no less), yeah, he was totally a beta male.

>>3737828
Once you realise there 0.0001% genetic difference between me you and Tesla there's no reason to have children. You can help other people especially your relatives and pass one your genes through them or help humanity to pass on their genes.

>>3737828
nature doesnt have a definition. procreating is a program in our genes that came up by coincidence, like everything in evolution, and stayed because organisms which procreate remain, while those which dont fade away. calling it a "goal" and calling not having children "failing" is your ridicolous interpretation of biological processes.

>>3738011

Niggers, everywhere. Yeah, great job, Tesla. He should of had 30 kids and started an army.

>>3737609
you are saying.. do what makes me feel happy.. hormones have never made me happy. go ahead and make fun of me because i do not do useless extra steps to get my point across. oh the first letter in a sentence is not large I NO UNDERSTAND. seriously, get off your high horse. you understood what i wrote, and thats what matters to me. what makes me happy is doing what i feel like doing.. i feel like being alone, and being free of kids and whores who depend on me because the only thing they have ever done is life is hope for a man to take care of them. really, i should make fun of YOU for STILL believing in something that has failed you your entire life and everyone around you ALWAYS. sure you can fake it, and it seems real on the outside.. but how many times has something looked good on the outside then you got into it and learned its not so great? how about every fucking time. however, you can get out of most things easy.. kids? good luck. they better die if you want out of it. otherwise you pay child support at the very least. thats a big decision and i will be dammed if my balls will tell me its all gonna be ok when its an 18+ year commitment at the minimum.

BOTTOM LINE. it does NOT make my happy pandering to outdated useless hormones that helped the human race survive in primitive times.. hey we are overpopulated huuurrrrr. i totally need to make new sheeple to get indoctrinated to be stupid. theres not enough already, i swear.

>>3738011
Oh yeah sure, maybe there's a tiny genetic difference, but have you paid attention to what that minor difference can do? I'm not helping idiots have retarded babies, fuck you.

>>3737459

And if everyone passes on their genes at the rate you morons are doing it, it'll destroy civilization.

I can't say I really see anything wrong with each person being allotted one child (so couples could have up to two children total). That serves as their replacement, so ultimately it would result in a net loss (as some people will not have two, if any. There would have to be some serious ramifications for anyone who had more).

>>3738076

We survived the last ice age. We'll survive the next. Or animals will inherit the Earth. It all remains to be seen, and is hardly important to the present.

Every living human would fit on the continent of Australia and have adequent space to live, if we were efficient.

Your fear of global catastrophy is a weapon in the hands of your owners. Enjoy your programming.

The human race: getting stupider and more disease-ridden because all of the people with problems are the ones breeding. The smart people either don't have kids or keep it to a minimum, usually.

I fucking hate kids and I am far too much of a selfish bitch to dedicate any part of my life to raising another fleshbag. I've failed at nature's reason for life and that's fine by me as long as I get to do what I want and enjoy myself instead of take care of an ignorant little screaming twat. I can't stand women who only want to be housewives and have kids. Take a look around you at your choices, you are no longer from the 1800's.

At least if you are going to have kids make sure you are financially stable, emotionally stable, and actually thought about the fact that taking care of kids properly takes up half or more of your life for at least 18 years. Then only have 2 and do the earth and everyone else a favor.

Because babies are BEAUTIFUL and I just want to have CHILDREN and be a MOTHER because it's BEAUTIFUL!

I say blame the women who just want to breed for no other reason than the generalization above (it's one that fits, from what I've seen). How many men are there out there whose life goal is to become a father, and thus lose any freedom or financial flexibility they once had?

>>3738198
SPOILER: Women like you are exactly the reason why humanity is going to shit.
Because intelligent women these days want to get an education, have a career etc. instead of GOING TO THE FUCKING KITCHEN to make me (and our 5 kids) a sandwich. As a result, the only intelligent men that are having a lot of kids are having them with stupid women (resulting in increasingly stupid offspring), since the intelligent women that intelligent men are hooking up with loev abortion.

>>3738198
If everyone was financially and emotionally stable before they had kids no one would have kids. You sound like a kid yourself.

we're not you faggot OP. Take Japan: at the current rate of births ther will be a single person left in the country by the year 3000. China has a similar statistic but you'll actually live to see the adverse effect of a massively aged population and a 2:q male to female breeding population in your life time.

>>3738198
Thank god for people like you.

Someone should post the breeder bingo card so we can play.

Faggot here. Doing my part to curb reproduction.

>>3738224
Well, that explains why you're so stupid.

ITT: Gays jealous that they can't procreate, so they pretend they didn't want to anyway.

There's by no mean any wrong with getting kids, what I mean with the term breeder is someone who gets more than enough kids to replace oneself on this earth.
And since we should try to reduce our numbers on earth, to say 200-300 millions, everyone should really aim at getting one kid till we have reached the desirable population, by which time we can start getting two kids a couple.
Like other people have pointed out in the thread, we don't have infinite resources - and the natural resources we have can most certainly not support 6 billion people comfortably.

For christ sake, half a billion human beings are starving. And the rest are living crowded and constantly competing with and stepping over other people just to live comfortably.

I say we reduce our numbers to the point where every single human being would if our natural resources and energy was redistributed evenly get as much as todays richest people get.

I am going to have over 9000 kids. they will crush your gene pool.

>>3738338
And by that I mean that they are going to rape your daughters.

>>3737075
I've been saying this for fucking years!
Fund it.

Kids are stupid and worthless. I laugh when pedos abuse them.

>>3738206

while it would be nice to believe you you're simply wired to enjoy orgasm for self gratificationit's actually not the whole story. Evolution and nature want you to impregnate as many mates as possible - that's your role as much so as it is a woman's to to experience the drive to have children and rear them. Despide the capacity for self determination and critical thinking, we are still mammals. Sure we can can remain celebate or supress our urges but we are still have them.

>>3738287

Those great numbers of old people are a result of rampant breeding, and shows how hard it is to stop the breeding ("we need more people to care for our old, then we'll need even more to care for them as well")

Thing is, we don't need people to do menial tasks such as caring for old people and working in industries.

We let robots take care of those things, just like japan has realized and appropriately diverged great sums of money to the field of robotics.

And once we've reached the stable population limit, where there are just enough humans for the average person to get ten times what a average person gets today in terms of natural resources and energy, we can start getting 2 or 3 (to weight up for the ones that die before they get the chance of reproducing and the ones that only get one child) and live comfortably on with a stable population.

It's not the fact that so many people either settle down and have children or have one unwanted pregnancy after the next, but the fact that sexual education is almost non-existent in many developed countries, and what we can call "sexual education" is really just abstinence-only bullshit that makes the problem worse. For starters, we need to strengthen programs that teach all about sexual health, pregnancy, contraceptives and sexually-transmitted infections. These programs not only need to cover oral and vaginal sex, but anal intercourse and same-sex relations as well. This is something that needs to be mandatorily taught in public schools, regardless of what parents think. If parents aren't going to do their job and teach their children about sex, then they'll have to learn from somewhere else. If they want to be reactionary assholes and try to shelter their children from sexuality in general, then all I can say is enjoy your unwanted grandchildren, because you'll probably be the ones raising them.

Onto another matter, the Vatican really needs to pull its head of its ass when it comes to contraceptives. It's a shame that the Pope has so many followers to begin with, but the fact that they're actually going to believe white-wash like "condoms don't protect against HIV/AIDS" is completely inane and self-destructive.

NOT EVEN ONE MORE CHILD SHOULD BE CONCEIVED AND BORN ON THIS EARTH until every orphaned, abused, or otherwise parentally disadvantaged youth has been adopted by certifiably intelligent, responsible, caring parents. Period. If you decide to make a baby in today's human climate rather than adopt, you are an idiot and an asshole and exactly the thing that is contributing to the eventual eradication of the human race on earth from famine, war, and disease.

I've thought about it a lot. If a genie gave me three wishes, for a long time I thought my first wish would be "world peace." I realized that that's awfully vague and probably likely to fail in a variety of ironic "you get what you wish for" ways.

Eventually I decided a better idea would be: setting a global, unbreakable human population cap. Probably around 50-100 million, and that's being generous. Babies will not be conceived unless a death occurs to balance the equation out. Current living humans would be painlessly eradicated at random to meet the cap. Most of the problems plaguing the human race vanish, just like that, overnight.

My other two wishes? A loli wife and the power to stop time. Well, a man can always wish.

>>3738388
Evolution and nature doesn't want you to do anything.
Stop applying human notions to naturalistic processes.

>>3738330
>everyone should really aim at getting one kid till we have reached the desirable population

YES! Thank you! That's what I've been thinking for years now. Fawning, wistful women who can't live without getting married and having children would still be able to satisfy their desire, and the planet would actually NOT run into an overpopulation problem.

Overpopulation will eventually become THE most important, looming issue on Earth. Mark my words.

>>3738412
>Overpopulation will eventually become THE most important, looming issue on Earth.
It already is, bro.

>>3737037
so we smarter folk should just let the retards populate the earth instead of us?

i feel its my responsibility as a decent looking smart person to create at least one other like me, so that maybe we'll have a shot at survival instead of having the retards run our society further into the ground

ITT: Fuck human biology

>>3738470
Yes, get two kids even with your future partner.

Seriously people, I am not saying you should stop getting kids, my objections are with those getting too many, too many being more than 1 kid per person.

A breeder is someone spawning 3, 4 and more kids when they could have with the plethora of contraceptives and birth control methods that we have limited their pregnancies, but ignored the available means and instead went on ahead selfishly without regards to the global issue of overpopulation.

>>3738501
Overpopulation is a myth spread by leftists who want the white race to die and for Western Civilization to be swamped by the savage dark races of Africa and the Middle East, and Central America.

>>3738470
If you get as many kids as the "retards", aren't you just contributing to the problem like they are?
How does that make you intelligent?

>>3738397
You are naive. IRL does not equal Evangelion or whatever the fuck you think is around the corner. Go spend a day at a hospice or dementia ward at a nursing home and see if Asimo is going to be able to deal with that shit. Meanwhile, think about what social unrest will occur when there is not enougj money to support the aged (robots aren't going to shit gold) and when evey second guy realises he will never get any pussy. Let's just say I wouldn't want to be a Chineese woman or for that matter a female in neighbouring territory if everyone relies on your wait for technology to fix it approach. We well may see breeding lotteries or cloning before we see god damn c3p0 changing granny's diaper and tilling the field.

>>3738519
And why wouldn't I be against these "savage" races over breeding as well?
You sound retarded

>>3738542
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_robotics#Domestic_robots

Japanese society loves their robots, they'll be fine

>>3738519
Overpopulation is a real concern for areas such as Africa where there are far too many people breeding who can't even feed themselves.

>>3738403

I'm proud of you /r9k/. Instead of engaging with the troll you ignore him and continue your rational discussion.

There may yet be hope for this board.

>>3738224

Man has a point world seemed to get a lot shittier ever since we let women have a voice...

coincidence, i think not.

>>3738602
>rational discussion.

Yeah, a rational discussion about "breeders".

Riiiiight

>>3738403

Adopting who? Kids of crack heads or third worlders?

It's hardly that terrible for someone to want to have a kid that they can have a more meaningful connection with. Plenty of characteristics about us are passed on through genetics and from parenting through a very young age, giving up the chance to have a child like that just seems sad.

>>3738639
Don't talk with the troll.

People have right to get kids, it's their genetic privilege.
It's just the number of kids that is up to debate.
I like any other rational person would say that in todays overpopulated world, we should try to be a little more moderate.
I can't possibly see how you can give all 6 billion humans on earth the life an middle-class person is living in wester society, but if we were like 1 billion instead, or even less - it'd be much easier to provide that kind of life.

Dirty meatbags. Walking around squirting DNA into each other. Makes me sick.

>>3738685
It's not like we have that large a percentage of those billions of people in western countries. The main areas that need to tone down their populations already are being wracked with diseases killing off a large portion of the people there.

The main reason for people in the west to have kids now is mostly to preserve what sense of society we have now, as when people have fewer kids it just makes many people lean further towards the notion that we need more immigrants to come in.

The only people who complain about breeders are white people.

Meanwhile, wetbacks and niggers lead the baby boom in America 10:1 to whites.

In 20 years, there will hardly be any white people left to complain about the breeders, and America will be just another overpopulated turd-world cesspool.

TL/DR: ITT: Anti-white jewish propaganda

>>3738639
Yes it seems sad. Yes it seems unfair. Yes, the majority of people will hear that and say "fuck you, bro, if I want to have a fucking kid then I'm having a fucking kid." And justify it by saying you want to have a real meaningful connection with your child, or you want to continue your genetic legacy down to the next generation, or whatever. Every fucking person who has a mind to make a baby has their immovable argument for why it's a good idea and why it should happen.

Meanwhile, the world population continues to skyrocket. Meanwhile, all the problems of humanity continue to get worse because all of humanity's problems are anthropogenic, caused by themselves. The more of them, the bigger the problems. Short of mass migrations to another planet or a drastic and immediate reversal of current population growth rates, there's no way to solve that. And people ARE selfish, people have their insoluble reasons for popping out kids and they will go ahead and do their thing because they don't care a whit about the future welfare of the world population. It's me, here, now; humankind, the eternal infant, satisfying its gross desires one after the other even as it's tipping into the inescapable maw of annihalation as a species.

It's NOT anyone's duty anymore as a member of the human species to pump out babies. It's EVERYONE'S duty to try and stop our skyrocketingly unsustainable population growth rate, and it's a duty we none of us are mature enough to tackle. It has to be a group effort but the group is too busy having unrestrained and unprotected sex with each other to step up to the plate.

The problem is that natural evolution isn't beneficial to humanity anymore, if you see survival of extinction-level events (as a race) and technological progress to achieve the former as the long-term goal rather than a mindless propagation of genes, as the mechanism of naturally occurring evolution doesn't favor complexity on principle, so a thriving race of dumb rabbit-apes would be just fine as the successor to mankind - do we want that?
We really should start taking evolution into our own hands, as we're slowly starting to become capable of it and could eliminate most of the dead-ending errors of natural development.

Also, am I the only one that sees the human right to "marry and [...] to found a family" and the part about "the prohibition of eugenic practices" in the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights as un-ethical bullshit?
This should be about the rights of the child of being born healthy, incurable-disease free into an environment supplying the best possible opportunities and quality of life instead of the egoistic, primal instinct of having a child for the hell of it to feel good about oneself of the fucking parents. What the hell, really?
I, for one, welcome our new transhumanist overlords! (if only.....)

>>3738771

Again, why would a anti-breeder love the idea of these "wetbacks" and niggers over breeding?
Everyone needs to stop getting so damn many kids, I love the idea of the infertility virus.

>>3738443
This reminds me of that Stephen Baxter book which has a prophecised apocalypse based on probablity. Out of the three book-highlighted ways that graph could continue - leveling out for effectively forever, constant upward growth for effectively forever or massive crash to zero pretty soon - the probability of you being born in the levelled out and constant growth timelines is ridiculously high, so the most likely scenario was that the population of the world was going to deplete drastically.

It was almost as stupid as most of this thread.

I am for eugenics programs.
I am for population control measures.

I am not sure how to implement either without introducing extraordinary racial and social bias into said programs, but the alternative of doing nothing and continuing to let the human race fuck like dumb bunnies seems many times over more dreadful than almost any alternative I could think of, however flawed.

SPOILER: The only people having too many babies are sponging niggers, sandpeople and Indians. If anything, white people need to have more kids, pronto to avoid dying out.

>>3738403
I actually wanted to adopt a child and have one of my own for the longest time. Turns out though, it would be pretty damn impossible due to my health conditions, and the fact that I have been treated for depression and an eating disorder in my youth. No one would let me adopt. :-(

I know a lot of people in similar situations, the rules for adoption are far too strict.

>>3738997
Evident BNP fag.
And with a retarded solution

"We have a dangerous overpopulation due to niggers, indians(wtf) and arabs over breeding"

"Then lets make the white people breed moar"

The solution is of course ot make sure that there is no unnecessary breeding, but your racist mind can't figure out a way to do that.

ITT: More chavs or worker low-class scum are not desirable, even if they're white.

>>3738997

Asians have the highest average income in the U.S... so erm... yeah.. I think they should reproduce more :D!

black people and Mexicans, yeah I'm all for sterilizing those bastards.. Have no sense of teaching kids good morals...

>>3739089
SOLUTION: Develop chemical agents to sterilize people in Third World countries with.
Apparently the South African government in the 1980s did a lot of research in this area.

I gives a purpose to their dull lives?

>>3738805
Those problems with overpopulation are caused by people having kids they can't support, which often happens in Africa and Asia.

>>3739111
SOLUTION: Create and spread a virus that'll turn one infertile with 90% chance probability.

>>3738388
>>3737459
>>3737563
ITT: Fucktarded social darwinists try to justify why their life revolves around sex and relationships.

Enjoy overpopulating the planet and draining most of its resources for your irrational desire

>>3739089
What, you're calling him a racist when you want to forcibly prevent brown people from breeding?

He wants to let overpopulated groups make their own choices... you want to sterilize them against their will... and you're calling him a racist?

Breeders breed breeders. Breeders are generally dumb people who contribute little more to society than pumping gas, or other jobs non-breeders consider menial and only necessary to get themselves off the ground. These non-breeders are generally the intelligent people - those who wait till they have some resources to work with before making babies, those who will excel in music, art, engineering, sciences, and anything else with lasting consequence. It used to be the other way around - trash had no kids and did the harder jobs, while those who advanced society were privileged with many children. The technological revolution changed this, and created a role reversal.

I give first-world society 2 generations before it swallows itself whole.

Social darwinism is perhaps the most over-cited ideology on this entire website. It's old and uninteresting. Let sleeping dogs lie, nothing is cool about pointing out the failure of others because some school of thought cites social success as the sole achievement of reproduction, and the notion that being a dick to others boosts your own attractiveness is spreading like Errol Flynn would spread aids if he had any. The whole "nice guys finish last" thought is to blame, where people misinterpret being a good person equating being a doormat.

I'm going to adopt a kid. If I get married I wouldn't want my wife's body to be ruined by child birth, nor do I want to deal with a baby. I like kids but not babies.

>>3739119
The problem with overpopulation is in a population putting an unsustainable burden on its environment. It's not just an issue of an African mother having 10 kids with 9 of them dying in infancy. It's an issue of every human being contributing to the current unsustainability of the human race living on planet earth. Some resource-intensive people (first-worlders) contribute more to that burden than others. Stop thinking of it as a problem isolated to sweltering third-world cultures, because when you do then you get to imagine that you play no part in the eventual downfall of humanity that you're playing. Not that you're to blame for being born, but you ARE to blame for bearing more children knowing full well that more children is not what the world needs right now.

>>3739167
Yes, because letting them make their own choices doesn't concern you in the slightest, considering THEY'RE ON THE SAME FUCKING PLANET. If they were on Mars or whereever the fuck, it would be viable. In reality, it isn't. Not with our current technology, at any rate.

>>3739230
I, for one, don't care what niggers do, so long as they do it over there. Let us do what we want on our turf, and they can do what they want. Where does this liberal need to tell the whole fucking world what to do come from?

>>3739167
Are you retarded as well?
You wanna give people who are used to breeding uncontrolled the choice, whether to keep breeding unrestricted or not, and you think that'll work?

And I don't care about the race of the breeders, which he evidently does.

I bet he has no problem with chav and low class workers breeding because that means the "whites" don't go extinct (disregarding that the whites, and everyone else, will go extinct if we continue to view overbreeding as a viable solution)

>>3739247
We live on the same planet you retard, of course it matters what niggers in a far away land does.

>>3739300
Hehehe, yeah. Those crazy niggers!

>>3738874
*applauds*
This is truly an inspirational post.
Bravo my gentleman!

>>3739230
That would make some sense if you weren't hypocritical enough to bitch about evil BNPfags and racists. Just accept that you're a nazi and go with that.

>>3739269
In case you haven't noticed, it's the brown people who have high birth rates. Any attempt at population control would be universally considered racist because it would only affect certain races, aside from a tiny number of outlier individuals.

If you want to force people to stop overbreeding, you want to bring about a government more oppressive than anything the BNP would do, and you want to start a race war. There's no other way to make it work.

>>3739269
Let's keep this simple: I DONT CARE WHAT FOREIGNERS DO, WHAT THEY DO IS NONE OF MY GODDAMN BUSINESS.

Who the fuck are you to tell some nigger in a mudhut that he can't have 50 kids or whatever if that's his choice?

>>3739405
You just put in a mixed couple in the advertisement campaign for example, give out money and benefits for NOT getting kids instead of when people get children and with some intense propaganda you'll avoid that issue somewhat easy.

People aren't hard to fool really.

>>3739425
Because once they've depleted the natural resources over theeeere, they'll fight for the resources over here.

Just accept that we live in a globalized world, and think ahead a little.

>>3739446
But that would only affect people exposed to the media in a country rich enough to run such a program. The people most likely to spread irresponsibly are the ones least likely to be hit by advertizing and incentives.

>>3739476
It's hard to fight on an empty stomach.

ITT: idiots.
I hate you guys, i really do.

>>3739476
lrn2/borders, it's actually pretty easy to keep people out if you're determined. If they run out of resources, well that's none of our business either. Some humanitarian sorts will try to help, but ultimately the population will fall back to sustainable levels.

this thread is hilarious
thanks for the laughs op

>>3739500
>>3739504

With the profiliation of nukes, and all the raving terrorists, it won't be hard to take the fight across your borders.

Jeez.

>>3739476
How are niggers from Oogaboogaland going to fight First World countries for resources? They still fight with machetes and AKs (if they're lucky), there's no way they could defeat modern militaries. The real threat is border-jumpers, and keeping society healthily racist is one way of preventing them from slipping into our society successfully where they can start bitching and starting nigger riots.

This thread has lead me to the conclusion that /r9k/ likes to be trolled and doesn't have any interest in humanity. Seriously, meanwhile you are talking about "solutions" the world is still beign destroyed by your so hated breeders. If you are so inteligent get out of your fucking basement and together make a campaign to convince people to stop breeding!

>>3739495
Instead of giving those people humanitarian aid, use the money to persuade them from breeding.

Voila!

>>3739533


Hunger will do a better job of that than any of us could ever hope to.

Maybe you'll stop spawning after you've seen your precious little spores starve.

>>3739533
Yeah, probably half of us just play along with the trolls for entertainment.

ITT: lots of sad small little bitches who some how think they have the necessary requirements to judge other people.

go die. the lot of you.

>>3739539
Nothing can stop niggers from breeding, and I mean nothing. Look at some of these African countries where like 40% of the population has AIDS and starvation is rampant, but the population isn't falling that rapidly because these people FUCK LIKE BUNNIES.

>>3739532

Problem is that by keeping society "healthily racist", you usually promote conservative forces in those countries.
I don't want to live in a censored, anti-scientific country with retarded morals and laws.

>>3739581
You can be anti-Christian and racist, I mean look at Nazis for one.

>>3739522
Building a nuke, launching it successfully and even aquiring the materials isn't as simple as you might want to believe, and as long as the leaders in africa are rich and corrupt(which arguabely are the only ones even remotely capable of getting a nuclear launch scraped together) and content with their situation, you'd have to rely on legions of poor, uneducated and starved regular citizens to do something that requires knowledge and materials they will never even hear about.

>>3739573
Then we return to the idea of a infertility virus, which I approve of.

>>3739230 here
>>3739405
That guy wasn't actually me. And I don't presume to have a solution about the politics involved, as there isn't any, yet.
What the first world probably should do instead of forced sterilization and all the barrels of worms that come with it is pumping fuckloads of money into education and research to achieve a level of technology sufficient to pull others out of the shit together with them, instead of endorsing or at least tolerating a significant portion of their population living in ignorance and then passing on that frame of mind to their offspring.

tl;dr first world should fix their own shit first, then help others do the same
(given that third world rabbits don't start fucking up the planet even more than already, then you crack down, HARD)

God tier
People who never reproduce

Med tier
Those who do reproduce and spawn 1 child

Shit tier
Those who have more than 1 kid

>>3739587
Who said anything about launching?
No border will ever be 100% impenetrable, there'll always be a way to smuggle in a suitcase nuke for example.
Or biological weapons.

>>3739550
wrong person bro, Neither I have interest in having a child nor supporting all the edgy faggots in this thread that think they can do somethiing to truly help the world, for me is to late for humanity, nothing is going to work at this time I will just enjoy the world as long as I can.

>>3739586
>>Nazis

Censor happy fascists.

>>3739613
Hmmm yeah, I guess that's why we encounter so many "suitcase nuke" detonations nowadays what with all the countries at conflict and all.

>>3739628
I don't believe they think they "can do something to truly help" but enjoy speculating on theoretical solutions that will never see the light of day for the hell of it.

>>3739651
Nowadays have very little to do with future days

>>3739669
HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


Oh man... That's rich...

>>3739573
I bet some forced sterilizations for everyone who've spawned a child would stop them.

>using the word "breeder"
I think you lot have nothing to worry about.

I had no idea there were people like this.

Breeders you say?

Interesting.

>>3739693
I bet you are a UKfag
am I right?

>>3739669

Allright, I'll try to be a bit more serious, but really, that last comment was somewhat "inconvenient" to your credibility. It doesn't take a genious to see a direct link between actions of today(and the past) having an effect on actions and the state of affairs of the future.

So in the scenario that natural resources would be depleted in africa, you assume they would wage war on other countries. In your scenario they would also use the most destructive weapon currently invented, and despite of being a poor fucking continent, they're gonna get a successfull nuclear assault on some country, with technology they don't have bought for resources they no longer have to battle an enemy vastly more advanced than them, and despite of every country in the world so far having been reluctant to use nukes for obvious reasons(if you look apart from hiroshima and nagasaki), some african poor country will do this, and it will in some way help them aquire resources in the area they're attacking even though doing do would render the area unhabitable and kill off a lot of wildlife.

Hooray for logic and common sense eh.

>>3739613
Suitcase nukes are extremely ineffective and infeasible. Just saying.

- US government

>>3738997
Lemme take a guess

You're a lower class white individual, either recently layed off your menial production or have a father who've been canned and is blaming the difficulties you now face on "dem immegrants stealing our jobs".

Am I close?

>>3739768
Fun fact: In highly industrialized countries(take japan as a prime example) the growth of the population is negative. This is a recurring theme around the world.

>>3739748
Don't need nukes to take over. Just need to send in more and more immigrants until you've conquered it by default. Stopping them is impossible unless you're going to kill a lot of people, deportation is infeasible.

>>3739783
What?
I am not taking part in this discussion about overpopulation, I just think I found a BNP-fag.

>>3739805
Are you one of those guys who base citizenship on race? I hope you do realize that an immigrant with a citizenship for your country can in no way be regarded as "taking over" anything, because he/she now belongs to the country you are residing in.

>>3739814
BNP-fag? Please explain. I doubt I am. Also, I am not the person you quoted, I am just pointing out facts here. You are free to look them up and judge accordingly with your own conclusions.

>>3739805
Which brings us back to the main issue, how to make people, of all colours, in the west stop getting too many kids, like what this poster suggested:

>>3739446

>>3739828
SPOILER: People from different races are often different in the way they behave in leadership positions.
This is why southern Africa today is completely different from the way it was 30 years ago.

>>3739851
I know that fact, I just said it was irrelevant to my comment.
And I'm not calling you a BNP- fag, the person I originally replied is one I think.

>>3739828
Do you really think that if Pakis were a majority in Britain that it wouldn't be socially a different country to the one it is now? Honestly.

spawn more robotic overlords

>>3739862
SPOILER: Replace the word "races" with "cultures" and its starting to look like something. The immigration isn't by far large enough for any serious power unbalance to occur anyway, because it happens slower than the children of immigrants are being assimilated into the mainstream culture. IF the politics in your country are working in regards of assimilating new citizens that is.

>>3739814
I'm not him, but this is a discussion about overpopulation, and the point is it's an objective fact that race, poverty, and reproduction rates are strongly correlated throughout the world.

>>3739828
Unless those people refuse to assimilate, remain loyal to their original country, and try to dismantle the host country from within. A citizen can be hostile to his new country.

>>3739896
The process is happening too quickly, we're going to be assimilated. Not the other way around.

>>3739889
Jesus you are retarded, if we stop overbreeding right there in Britian (I assume you're a britfag) there will never be an majority of pakis, they'll continue to be 5% of the population.
Even your xenophobic mind should realize that stopping breeders benefits your agenda as well.

>>3739889
See
>>3739896

Sure if they shipped a boatload of pakis to the UK overnight so there were more of them than any other group there you would notice it. Thing is though, after a certain amount of time(again depending on how the integration politics of your country is working) generations they aren't pakis anymore, they're britons with pakistani ancestry.

>tl;dr The vagina is NOT a fucking clown car.


Best statement in this entire thread.

>>3739908
I know all those facts, I merely did an analysis of this person >>3738997

I am this person: >>3739768

People complaining about "indians" taking over are usually chavs or simpletons working in factories.

>>3739909
This is of course an entirely different matter. It depends on who "we" are though since its working just peachy over at where I'm living. I do not know where you live and how your foreign politics and integration politics work. They do, of course, need to be working well for this to be a healthy population growth supplement.

>Unless those people refuse to assimilate, remain loyal to their original country, and try to dismantle the host country from within. A citizen can be hostile to his new country.

Illojality to ones country is in extreme situations strictly punishable by most countries' laws, and it is at least a pain to keep on for onesself. If you put yourself against those around you you effectively alienate yourself, and believe it or not, most people, even those from other scary southern countries, don't like that feeling.

>>3739923
ITT: With good integration policies, you turn pakis into different colored westerners..
If you still dislike them, then you're just xenophobe that is focusing too much on their external appearance and ignoring whether or not they are culturally alike you.

>>3739979
What you just said basically amounts to "I DONT CARE IF THEY'RE BEHAVING JUST LIKE ME, THEIR SKIN IS AN OMINOUS SHADE OF BROWN!!!!"

>>3739923
In the US, niggers have been around for centuries but most of them still refuse to assimilate and voluntarily maintain a separate high crime, high reproduction, high poverty culture. Then they blame the mainstream for their problems and call each other sellouts when any try to assimilate.

>>3739964
Europe already has quite a few muslims who would rather stay there rioting and demanding sharia than go back to their own countries. The worse things get in the third world, the more pain and conflict the immigrants will be willing to create.

Is there an orginization that has the goal of reducing the amount of people on the earth?
I know there is a crazy one that simply wants the human speices to go extinct, but is there one that just wants the human population to be much smaller then it is today?

>>3740021
And a lot of blacks and Muslims do assimilate and become culturally identical you and me.

fuck u op
Im going to get a bunch of kids and live through them

>>3740021
I don't live in the US. There are black people in my country too though, and they aren't overrepresented in any aspect of crime. Sure, muslims are trying to influence quite a bit in europe, mostly because the religion itself is fairly restrictive and that it leads to taking offense at a lot of things other religions do not. This must of course be dealt with properly.

>>3739920
5% is not 0%

Joking, I can get behind you(no homo)

>>3740038
Only a minority of them assimilate smoothly, and restricting immigration to allow only that assimilation-ready minority would solve a lot of problems, and especially reduce race issues.

>>3739640
Sounds like a little jew lover there.

>>3740116
And restricting immigration is fine, adding requirements or tests that the immigrant must pass in order to gain entry is something any sane person could get behind with.
And of course there'd still be asylums.

Then we implement a strong Pr-campaign and media pressure combined with a revamp of the benefit system - making more kids an liability to the parents by giving money only to couples that restrict themselves to two children, with extra incentives for the ones that only get one child.

>>3740184
Just one problem friend:

Breeders are in majority, and because we live in democracies here in the west they'll be able to stop these changes.
But then again, they could easily be fooled I suppose.

This thread is full of underage wastes of life.

People who have children are worth more then any of you will ever amount to, they're fulfilling the mission of their species.

I'm going to have children when the time is right and I'll be loling at failures such as yourselves.

>>3740343
Go ahead and have children, no one is stopping you.
And their is no mission of the species.

>>3740343

That mission is over.

New objective is to PIERCE THE HEAVENS.

ROW ROW
FIGHT THE POWAH
WE ARE THE MASTERS, OF THE WOOOORLD

>>3740343

I will get one child, just enough to replace myself here in this world.
Getting any more is just irresponsible.

Simply pay poor and disabled people $50000US to get themselves permanently sterlized.

It's adorable how you all suddenly hate what the media tells you to hate because of that one skank who lives off welfare and gets away with it. I'm the second oldest of 6 kids and my parents both came from large families as well, and guess what? Everyone in both my parent's families and this family have been successful in life. If I can pay for my own expenses, why the fuck should it matter to you how many kids I want to have? God damn, go kill yourself if you really think that having a few kids is a bad thing.

>>3741651
Global overpopulation.
Thank you for being part of one of the biggest human problems.

>>3741701
ITT: It's the 1960s all over again. This planet can easily support billions more humans, and at the rate we are developing our understanding of space we will be able to settle on new planets within a couple centuries.