(continued) I've always been the introvert, but whenever I approach people out of genuine interest to break out of my shell, I know they're still shunning me because they're disinterested or put up a facade reveal their real feelings when they rarely associate with me. I don't act strange or anything, all I try to do is maintain a genuine conversation. Strangers commonly stare at me at times or whenever I walk past them, they immediately look at me, no matter how brief, usually making fake bullshit smiles along the way, like I'm some freak in a cage needing to be placated.

That's all. Really sometimes people say I don't smile enough or whatever but even in new locations with new people they act like this. I want to be loved, not with fake pity or an obligation type love because everyone in the social group has to get some attention but real love. There are times when I explode in rage at people over this and they actually weep, and I can never understand why they do this when our joke of a friendship is thin as is.

I feel the same because I guess I overanalyze people, and I worry about it. I get stared at too, but I've learned not to get mad. What I can tell you is, to do an activity to get your mind off it. Pick up an instrument or an outdoor activity.

I did not read your post.

Anyway, I think you're cute. Are you gay and in the Columbus area?

I'm sorry to hear that. You seem like a nice person. If it's any comfort, you're handsome as hell.

hes a fucking shun for you..

PROTIP: you are shitting up my R9K with your fucking BAWWWW

im going to punch you in your face so you can QQ about something worthwhile

It's all in your head.

People don't give a damn about anyone else, your case is nothing special.

On another note, would you be interested in giving me head?

OP after reading this I think its time for you to start wearing deoderant.

>>3612587

Being in a similar situation to OP I can appreciate the thought, as abstruse as it may seem.

The concept of an instrument or hobby improving social situations only applies to social activities; otherwise it's merely a confidence builder.

OP, some potential causes of isolation are basic social diplomacy, ugliness (if you're an American), a lack of distinguishing attributes, and sad countenance. Also, independent thought is currently out of style.

Improve yourself, don't conform, move along.

is pic related?

If so, get advised on a proper haircut and go find different glasses. You look like John Lennon, dude. That's not bad, but kinda outdated and stare-inducing.

>>3612623
> ugliness (if you're an American)

like other parts of the world don't ignore fuglies.

OP The reason of your isolation is your basic shyness and lack of social skills. Your case is extremely common, and it boils down to this: if you are withdrawn, people will start ignoring you, because getting some interaction from you requires too much energy. This energy will be better spent on other people which respond more with less effort. You then enter into a vicious circle, because your lack of social exposure prevents you from gaining basic social skills, which makes it even more difficult to get into contact with people.

Fortunately, there is a very simple way of breaking out of that vicious circle. It's simple, but not so easy, as it requires conscious effort from you. If you are not ready to sweat on it, you can just forget it. You basically need to review your interests, and enter into a group activity based on it. People socialize naturally with other people with whom they share common interests. So in this way you will compensate for your initial handicap. But that's just a starting point. You still need to reach out for people, and really put an effort in developing your social skills (hint: try to have more empathy for them), otherwise you'll waste your initial advantage.

Good luck!

This isn't about some high school need for acceptance with the in crowd, it's about me facing resentment everywhere I go. Even in social groups, I am always the odd man out for...oh, no reason of course. Even around total strangers in new locations. Sometimes much older people stare at me or act strangely withdrawn around me. All I want is for people to not completely shun me or simply to treat me like they would anyone else, which is to socialize normally.

Stop caring, and life will become over 9000 times better.

You are thinking too much about social interactions and people are sensing that. Calm down and let people into your heart and they will respond.

Also, how do you feel about licking cornholes?

I have almost the exact same problems as you described except for the anger issues which might be making your problems worse. My advice though is to stop looking at the people around you you can only recognize that someone is actively avoiding you if you see them and if you look at someone with an unhappy or angry or just your basic apathetic face which could be interpreted badly people will avoid you. think about it your walking to class and some person by himself looks up and stares at you its unnerving its natural for you to respond in a negative fashion. I know its hard and I could really use some better advice as well but on the other hand I guess its best to just not worry about it when you overanalyze things its harder to communicate and lastly I think its important to remember that very few people act genuine in social situations most people just pretend its not something to be upset about thats just how it is and in order to fit in sometimes you have to pretend.I have more but this post is too long as it is

>>3612644

Are you really sure that what you observe is real, or a personal bias? Maybe people don't really give a shit about you, but you always treat the barest of evidence as something against you. I don't say this is true or not, it might be a possibility. It's just that most of the time, people don't care about other people, so unless you have some really salient distinctive feature (like being black in China), people will look you over.

If indeed people look you funny, then there is something in your attitude, posture, clothing that motivates this reaction. You might actually ask them what it is. After all, they can probably tell you (not useful in all situations, but since you claim this happens to you all the time, you will find yourself in a situation in which it's not so difficult to ask).

Again, find someone strange takes more energy than just ignore him, so there must be something you are doing to induce that. Find out what it is, and let us know, I'm curious ^_^

>>3612636

You know what?, that's what I've discovered. I don't have empathy for people. I figure I got through some of my problems alone so I should let people pick up on their own. A bit cold, I might say.

>>3612670

Yep, unfortunately, that's a terrible handicap when you want to have friendships. But if you don't mind being a loner, it's fine, and everybody will be happy. There's only a problem when you feel you need relationships despite lacking empathy.

>>3612677

I can tell that I've forced myself to listen and experimented to get it right. Even then I get carried away talking about the things I like, so at times I would stay quiet and keep to myself. I have friends I hang out with and drinking helped out alot but I'm still not able to have a conversation properly. What you mentioned is the problem; I'm in need of a girl.

>>3612684

Just make sure you don't rely too much on alcohol in order to socialize. Last month I went to the funeral of a guy who died because of that.

you sound almost exactly like me and probaby a myriad 4chan users.

>>3612636

I find your point on empathy deeply important, and it's very important to understand people's reactions to your acts; the empathetic "caring," intuitive aspect isn't really needed in social context.

We humans must understand the emotional 'language' of an subject (even groups) to converse.

Change how you interact, but those who do so too readily are the conformists.
Humans are often as beasts; the blatantly odd spooks them, ignorance brings a degree of discomfort in all but the best of us.

>>3612704

yeah... I am not that great at it but I'm pushing. I'm trying not to curl up about it and let it go. Just yesterday I didn't do too well at socializing, but I managed not to think about it.

Ugh, I just read returned from the site of the ad at the top of my page, and it was disheartening what it said of humanity.

The socially successful make others (whom they value) feel cared about or empowered and often hurt others to cement authority.

Demagogues and emotion rule the conformed, stale, masses. Be warned that to be treated well by all but the best you must be an amiable beast.

OP and outcasts, don't go too machiavellian (google it if you don't understand) or you will destroy opportunity.

Fuck those other people, why do you need to socialize with asshole who turn their backs on you? Find other people who will treat you with fucking respect.

Demand respect, you'll get respect.

I can tell when people care too much or are trying to hard. It's annoying and I don't want to deal with it. I tend to ignore these people.

I empathize with you fully, and I find I get the same treatment from most of my 'girlfriends'. I have my own opinions, and they take them as insult because they find me too complicated to socialize with. I don't conform to their dress codes or the proper hairstyles and makeup and they shun me, they are really missing out on developing authentic relationships, as far as I'm concerned. Seriously, this crap is still happening to me and I'm in my thirties. I find men are much easier to be friends with, as they are less critical and more accepting of creativeness and individuality. I wish you the best in meeting people, it's no easy task when you aren't a phony. just my thoughts.

I have a friend who seems to have this problem. It comes off to everyone else as him just oversensitive/analytical. Nobody had a problem with him until he started having tantrums about how everybody hates him, ignoring people, or giving nothing but glares as reactions. Last week he asked to eat lunch, and explained to me on the way over that he wanted to kill me. I've tried to re approach him in a way that would avoid making him feel like everyone hates him, but it's like if you're busy for one day, or just want to go home early and sleep, it induces a huge reaction. Nobody had a problem with him until he started acting volatile all the fucking time. Now the general feeling is, "Yeah, he's cool when he's not on his period." Feels like fucking grade school all over again.

tl;dr: Don't exclude the possibility that it's all in your head. If you have some beef, try to explain it rationally, without getting angry.

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*spits on insignificant socially awkward scum*

IM SEXY AND INTERESTING!!!

*neurosis*

I hate angry nerd guys. Why can't you people just have fun in your lives instead of being assholes about everything?

No one on this planet has an obligation to even treat you like a human being, much less be friends with you. Just get some hobbies and quit crying about how everyone hates you and then people will actually want to spend time with you.

OP, do you live in Ohio?

>>3612806
PS you know how you think your deepest feelings about humanity are hidden and no one knows how much you hate everyone and yourself?

well, they know. humans are like animals, they can just tell when there is something wrong with someone and they avoid them.

ITT: retards completely oblivious to the fact that their hive mind faggotry pisses other people off.

Yea its really op's fault.

Either it's in your head or it's your body language.

ITT: Losers with fucking Assburgers

Op, try to do something funny to entertain people, and do not take people seriously.

And ffs, laugh or even smile!

You bring no value to the group. You just want to take. That is the problem.