Obama - Franklin Delano Roosevelt

Sounds fair to me; that way those damn kids will stay off of my lawn!

It will also get their spirits crushed, and ready for the 9-6 daily grind of the workplace.

good, fuck kids these days. they have it too easy.

>>3500002
Except Obama is crippled in his cerebral cortex.

So? That's like my normal school day anyways.

>>3500023

jealous that a nigger is president and you live in a basement?

http://www.kansascity.com/444/story/1078454.html

Sauce for teh masses

If we actually do it it will stress our currently shitty and underfunded public education system into total collapse

im talking teacher strikes, student walkouts, the whole deal

Children need play time and a life outside of school.

Besides, whats it to him? Shouldn't school reform be up to the states?

>>3499994

Wow. What, do teachers all of a sudden work 10 hours a day, now? What the fuck...

This nigga be that stupid? In college you're in class for 3-6 hours for only four days a week (typically) and guess what, they learn some shit.

Why hasn't this moron been assassinated yet?

inb4 helter skelter

HOW WILL WE PAY FOR THIS

OH YEAH, TAX THE RICH

TAX THE RICH TAX THE RICH TAX THE RICH TAX THE RICH

Focus on higher education before high school.

>>3500061

Schools are usually paid for by property taxes.

Since good schools cause drastic increases of the value of property, people can end up gaining more value than they pay in tax.

>8 am to 5 pm
Stop pulling shit out of the air.

>>3500047
Yes, but he (like most Presidents) hate the Constitution.

The US education system is shit, but increasing the number of hours of school isn't going to fix it. If Obama really wants to change something, he should increase the rigour of classes. US public high schools are a fucking joke. Any mediocre student that puts in even a little bit of effort can make an A.

It would make more sense to have an 8 am to 4 pm. That shit's too long.

What the fuck could that possibly help?

I remember here when we had too many snow days and they added an extra half hour on to the end of each day for a month. It was fucking useless. It added maybe 10 or 5 minutes to each middle/high school block class, and all the elementary school kids were too tired to learn anything else at the end of the day.

Teachers have a set lesson plan of what needs to get done each day in class. Sometimes it will spill over into the next class, sometimes you'll have time left at the end of the day. There is no way of knowing for sure, since sometimes the kids will be rowdy or asking a lot of questions, and other times they'll understand everything and you can just breeze through the material.

TL;DR, better education =/= more minutes per day in the classroom.

Maybe we should work on specialized education starting in middle school.

>>3500061
Stupid nigger states pay for education. Which means that if you live in a GOP run state, your social services will be cut. Enjoy having no toilet paper in your schools.

>>3500086
He actually said that.

If we exclude Commiefornia, then this wouldn't be an issue.

/thread.

If the US wasn't so eager to pull snow days out of their ass, there'd be plenty more school days. Honestly, I remember getting not even an inch of snow and the school called it a snow day.

Re-segregate the schools and do away with affirmative negro action. Wetbacks will be kicked to the curb, and any child remaining who acts up and prevents learning can go to the federal fucking prison camps.

>>3500145
Any sauce on the hours? Or did he just say "longer"?

>>3500119
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&q=california+education+budget+cut&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=california+education+budget+cut&btnG=Google+Search&
aq=o&oq=

Have fun.

wasn't this on the condition that that it would only be a 4 day week? I though I read that somewhere. . .

>>3500066
That's what they said...
In Brazil.

Your argument is invalid.

Well, if you people really believe that education here in America actually performs what it should do... you are the reason why it fails.

My kids will be home schooled, I can't stand this anymore.

The solution is simple:

* We need to weed out the hopeless cases which are dragging other students down
* We need to reduce class sizes
* We need to motivate kids to learn.

Starting in 8th grade; standardized test at the end of the year.

Bottom 10% get pulled out of school, and drafted into the army.

>>3500045
>Looks for "8am-5pm". Not found.

And as for more school days, most public schools have only 180ish days of actual school.

High schools got it easy.

From a European perspective? This seems a damn good idea. Half the issues I have with americans is that they are damn stupid and ill-educated. Hopefully, if they get a decent school system in the future, America will be a pretty mean competitor economically, but Americans will probably stop voting for fucking retards and believing that Jeebus carries an Uzi.

>>3500206

I may be with you brobot. I'm not smart enough to teach them everything though, maybe my wife will do it. Or get them a tutor.

Might send them to school for some classes, at least so they can make friends and be social. But for the most part, public education is turning to shit.

We'll just be sending children to shitty schools for longer periods of time. Which will definitely not make education better.

>>3500221

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Bottom 10% get pulled out of school, and drafted into the army.

I actually loled.

in FL we might drop the days of school down to 4 days a week to save on power costs. that means more pimply faced teenagers running a muck in the streets and doing stupid shit. having school 8-5 would be the best option because it will be more conveniant for the parents to pick up their kids but that 3 day weekend is going to hurt them. no supervision for an entire day?? juvenile crime will rise.

I guess it's private school for my kids now. Increasing time in school has no correlation to student performance.

What we need is schools where kids who don't pass requirements don't move on to the next grade, and conversely, kids who are accelerated learners should be allowed to skip grades. Theoretically, that's how the public system works already, but it's never implemented as such.

>>3500260
Right, because they're completely restricted from anything on the weekends...

>>3500100
>If Obama really wants to change something, he should make it national policy to not hire anyone from a teacher's union

so teachers are on the clock for atleast 50 hours a week, not including the time they spend at home grading shit...

yeah, i cant really see that happening. stupid fucking nigger doesnt understand shit.

This is all because you decided to stop hitting your shit-faced, oily skinned children and implement the child labor laws.

Now we have obese, lazy teenagers whose only movement involves chewing and whose only knowledge consists of where to find good porn. (Which really wouldn't be a problem, if they knew their multiplication tables.)

Well if this isn't a great way to increase the level of pointless busywork and the dropout rate then I don't know what is.

If anything it's our crass culture that looks down on intelligence that is keeping us behind foreigners.

>>3500382

As per an earlier comment; if we did annual testing, and kept pulling out the bottom 10% of scorers for some form of mandatory national service, kids would be motivated to learn.

>>3500221
1) We need to weed out bad teachers and make the field a bit more lucrative. Keep good teachers teaching. Keep them from leaving for administrative jobs.

2) Our curriculum is stupid. It focuses on a balanced student. This world does not need balanced people. Specialists make money. We need to specialize earlier. We do not need to teach students humanities and sciences all the way into the first year of college. By the end of jr high you should start to have an idea about your strengths. We need to focus on strengths more.

3) We need technical training as opposed to a stupid general education. Okay, so let's accept that probably 40% of public highschool students are just not bright. They are not good at math, nor any of the sciences, nor writing. So, instead, let's get them on a track that works with their interests. If they are interested in cars/mechanic tech stuff-- get them going right away. If they are interested in nursing, get that going right away. If they are interested in any other work area, let's just move them towards that.

I would rather have an extremely efficient ditch digger than a mediocre thinker.

I already have 8-4.

>>3500351
The rest of the developed world has similar policies, and they all have better-educated kids. America's education system is one of the world's worst.

>>3500407

Yea, I've never understood why we have so much general education. In my Algebra II class in 11th grade, we were learning some weird thing about parabolas or whatever. I asked my teacher what use it was, and she said if you want to go into computer programming, it is very useful.

Well, I don't want to go into computer programming. Teach me something that I can use.

My high school frowned upon trying to get specialized in something. Oh sure, you could take more electives if you wanted, but you wouldn't get the "Advanced Diploma" or whatever. Fuck that shit. If I don't need all that math/science for what I want to do, why should I take it?

Oh my god. So what, my son/daughter will be home in time to eat dinner do the 3-4 hours of assigned homework his/her teachers gave her and then sleep? No personal time? Kids have to have time to be kids. Hell, I want some time with my child too - even adults in college don't have that much class time.

Does anyone here remember middle and high-school? I got anywhere from 3-4 hours of homework a day because they were "preparing us for college". My biggest regret is not having a life outside of classwork.