You always have the best threads, ISM.

Anyway, I'm not sure what exactly to think of that. :\

It sucks that 15 people died, but I'm not really surprised.

Hey guys, it's that guy. Maybe we should just ignore him and he'll go away? Don't post if you agree.

>>You always have the best threads, ISM.

Oh let's just turn this into a big tripfag circlejerk shall we?

Fuck off.

Long live the lord of trolls!

(which one does he mean?)

sure is samefag in here

trollbox

he did ok. i expected more from a German

I live near the village where it happend. I know people there but luckily nothing happend to them.

Inb4 ITS ALL THE GUN'S FAULT

>>3445791

My boyfriend says this all the time. "IF THERE WERE NO GUNS THERE WOULD BE NO MORE CRIME"

He's basically a giant liberal PETAfag hippy.

At least it gives us something to debate. :\

>>3445806
your boyfriend likes to suck cock

>>3445806

That's why the world was a crimless utopia until guns were invented, right?

This isn't about guns faggots. It's about school bullying. The longer the victim remains bullied, the higher the chance the victim will take justice into his own hands and wreck havoc.

This isn't about whether guns are the problem, or video games or movies.

The issue that should be discussed is why we focus on the cure but not the prevention.

But humans never learn. Here's to another thousand more school shootings.

>>3445826
The way our schools in the UK "fixed" the problem is not to remove the bully, oh no, they remove the kid who is being bullied and he/she gets transferred to another school, where he/she doesn't know anyone and probably gets into the same situation again.

>>3445786
thank you
also::
Oh great!
now were going to get even more cameras and even less games. Those are the two parameters for my happyness.
But srsly isnt shooting at the police and the die-trying mentality actually much cooler than an heroing? I mean theres no way he couldve hoped to survive the GSG and theyre Laser-beam-tesla-death-ray-shooting-spree.Also: If anybody related reads this: sorry for your loss LOL

No one will beat Cho's record, and especially not some German.

>>3445826

I was bullied in school and never shot anyone. School shooters deserve no sympathy for overreacting.

However, I do agree that bullying should be taken more seriously, but I can't imagine how it could be prevented.

Anyway, don't listen to me, I'm tired as hell and can't form a coherent thought, much less proper debate.

>>3445826
don't you have some complaint about how corporations aren't necessarily evil or some other mundane shit like that? christ you're a faggot

>>3445906

Oh come on bro, he posts a marginally interesting thread so you attack him for some not so hot ones he posted before? Stop being such a faggot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yteMugRAc0

>>3445826
Bullying has always existed. The ways in which we are taught to deal with bullying is what's changed. People are not allowed to act on their aggression anymore; it is to be channeled through the system of discipline which, not surprisingly, is ineffective. In times long gone, people would simply fight back when bullied, the conflict would either be resolved, or more fighting would ensue until it was.

How do people deal with their aggression now? They turn it on themselves- but they can't commit suicide because they've been taught that that is one of the worst things one can do with oneself, apparently. Maybe they are taking some form of medication because they've been told they are mentally ill, insane for being pissed off at a world which rejects human impulses, like Cho did or numerous other recent killers. Is that the solution?

Like the volcano, the pressure is then released outward- maybe into a videogame, art, drugs, or some other surrogate activity. In extreme cases, we get what as seen as the ultimate freedom from a rage and frustration which cannot be dealt with without an adequately extreme action: destruction.

These shootings will become only more frequent as society and culture progresses in a direction in which behavior and human minds which are innately chaotic are increasingly regulated and modified for varying purposes.

/rant

>>3445893
Oh there was ONE German that beat his score a while ago . . .

fuck off ISM

remember the survey, this entire board dislikes you immensely

This kid was posting in b yesterday.

German kid with a gun talking about gonna go killing...

I agree with ISM about a lot of things. For one, I really hate chinks too. And, this is pretty lulz-worthy too. I can't help but smile when someone shoots up their school/workplace.

>>3445956
This.

alsosuddenlymootbloxxxeseverywhere

WELL OBVIOUSLY THE ANSWER IS MORE GUN CONTROL!

>>3445826
WHAT

It's not even clear whether he was bullied or not. The motive is completely in the dark.

Also: lol at glorifying rampagers. How stupid can you get?

>>3445982
Any pictures?

Laughing my ass off.

Today is a good day.

Inbefore some hypocritical do-gooders.

>>3446017
newbie detected

i wonder how long it will be until you and your stupid tripcode disappear

>>3446102
Not long on this board. I'm a regular visitor on /a/ on /v/, albeit not so often recently.

And why am I a newbie?

>>3446064

Hypocritical do-gooder here. Fuck you dark and edgy xD kiddies who think this is in any way awesome. Yes, I'm aware I'm on 4Chan. Doesn't change the fact you're all immature, fat, worthless little internet tough guy brats who need a swift kick in the ass.

>>3446138
you're taking the people on here seriously

moot
>>3445898
>School shooters deserve no sympathy for overreacting.

Nor does the society that ignores bullying, and thus, perpetuate it.

When the free world invades the Middle East and leave them in chaos and ruins while exploiting their resources, eventually there will be a shitstorm. It might not be this generation, or the next, but eventually, someone's not going take it anymore.

Enjoy your 9/11.

When bullies or gangs invade the personal space of a victim and leave him/her in chaos and ruins, eventually there will be a shitstorm. It might not be today, or tomorrow, but eventually, that victim is not going to take it anymore.

Enjoy your V-Tech shootings (33 frags) and Germany school shootings (15 and counting).

Society can choose to actively help the victim, reprimand the aggressor and improve overall well-being.

Or society can choose to try to ignore the victim and leave them at the hands of the bully.

If so, then society has no right to complain when the bully retaliates.

Pic not related. She did not retaliate.

>>3446162

You need to kindly get the fuck off if you think anyone here isn't serious.

>>3446180
>It's all the societies fault.

Look. I won't say that isn't true. In general it is. But then again, somewhere, it's only partially true.

I don't know what goes on in their minds. But why didn't they see that they will harm people that didn't even have anything to do with it? A violent way in this case isn't the answer.

Condemning anything right now is pointless. I want to know the truth, and no reactionary bullshit. I want to know the gears of that clockwork, and have it repaired.

>>3446145
Oh wow.

Not being able to accept other opinions and then insult me.
Very mature.
Talking about intelligence.......

Hey, the time you needed to write a your brainless comment, most probably a few lifes vanished.
Care?

>Megane of Ceremony !!Acix1go1OeZ

>>3446180
>If so, then society has no right to complain when the bully retaliates.

Do you mean when the victim retaliates?

>>3446180

Still no evidence whether or not this recent shooting is related to bullying, so shut the fuck up. Accept that there are always victims in a society, as sad aas it is, and stop defending the ones who "retaliate" by destroying the lives of (usually) completely innocent people completely unrelated to the killer's problems.

inb4 collective guilt or some other shit you'll try to pull.

>>3446253
That's about it what I wanted to say in >>3446225 . I'm not good making myself clear in such situations..

>>3446180

I laughed, and found I agree with your argument.

>>3446233

I don't particularly care about the murdered people (caring too much is the other extreme and not too healthy either), but I do get pissed off at faggots like you who go "lol this guy rulez awsum xD". I'd like to see YOUR balls get shot off by a psycho who randomly selected you for their "revenge".

Invisible Sky Magician

AGAIN!
Do you have the potential to change things?

Discussions are almost good for nothing.

>>3446272

I know. Don't worry though. Not everyone here is a wannabe misanthropic deranged freak. These kids would fucking crumble if anything like this happened to them.

I'm a Finnish journalist, reported extensively on both of our two school shootings.

For some strange reason, I'm almost relieved that this guy didn't end up putting the gun to his temple while staring himself in the eye through the bathroom mirror.

Cho's still the reigning champion at School Shoot 'Em Up.

I hope someone takes the high score soon but Germany did good with this one.

>>3446281

You gotta make sure you're on good terms with all the possible psychos, hell if you're lucky they might spare you :3

>>3446281
Well, yet to happen.
So i don't care at all.

If this happens randomly, i have no problem with it.
Cause it would be unexpected and i can't do nothing against it.

Worse would be some event i know but can't do anything about it.

I love the reaction of most of the people and the media if such things happens.

It always shows how dumb the majority of humanity is.

Wait, wait!

The important question:

Did he beat Cho's highscore?

>>3446358

He only got 15 frags. Cho had 33 K.O.'s

Read the OP next time.

>>3446358

Not even close. 33 is counting one self-kill.

>>3445964
This. Leave now. I hate you and so does everyone else.

>>3446373

Suicides deduct from score, why isn't that taken into account?

Invisible Sky Magician is an EMO-KID.

Whining how stupid the humanity etc. is but not having the potential to change anything, but just whining and whining and whining.

Go kill yourself.

>>3446345
>>herp derp mankind sux

Oh, go fuck yourself.

And you may not realize this since you're probably a lonely jackass, but losing a loved one in a completely random accident, crime or murder spree like this one where, and let me reiterate, chances are high that THEY HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING, is one of the most horrifying experiences there are.

>>3446383

I think if it's a suicide, the score should be cut in half, since that's the pussy way out.

REAL men go out fighting.

Cho never really got bullied. He just got ignored and walked around like an invisible man while he lived in his own fantasy world with his imaginary girlfriend.

Nobody is likely to beat his record any time soon, because most rampage killers will just go on one rage-driven attack on an impulse. Cho planned and practiced for his murdering spree for a long time.

>>3446064
>>3446233

Stupid faggot cunt.
Wonder if you'd be laughing if I shot up your girlfriend, or even your family?

But then again, this is 4chan, you'll just laugh at my post and go "LOLS I GOT NO GF OR FAM! xD Lawlz"

mootbollox
>>3446404
>is one of the most horrifying experiences there are.

http://www.bestgore.com/beheading/dagestan-beheading-russian-soldiers-chechen-mujahideen-terrorists/

Sure it is.

>THE PROGRAMMER !WFw.Lqg1Zs

This is why we need forced anonymous.

>>3446404
Oh, yes and why should i care about it?
I am not involved.

Please, come up with some logical explanations besides your comments full of emotions.

I am coldhearted? Yes i am.
So what?
Trying to change my rational view about things?

>>3446180

1. No evidence this was the result of bullying.
2. Granted I haven't probably delved as deep into the backstory as some of the Cho-fags who idolize the idiot, but from what I remember hearing he wasn't an outcast or bullied. People even tried extra hard to be nice to him, but he was just a fucking paranoid lunatic who felt the world was against him, etc.
3. Even if you adopt the classic "waaah, I was bullied! I have free reign then to massacre anyone!" defense of the typical schoolyard punching bag, I fail to see how randomly shooting people who never even knew you or did anything to you is somehow justifiable revenge. If you went and killed the ones actually harassing you it'd be somewhat different.

Honestly the whole bleeding heart, teary eyed bullshit surrounding bullying is rather pathetic when it's just a natural extension of our animal pasts. Look at other primate and mammal species, you often see throughout the growing years pecking orders get established. Some will rise and exert their dominance over the lesser, weaker ones.

oh look, an ISM thread

moot
>>3446383
>Suicides deduct from score, why isn't that taken into account?

I think suicides are worth being counted as a kill, not a deduction.

An emo is someone who is all emotional and hates life and wants to kill himself BUT IS TOO SCARED TOO KILL HIMSELF. That is the definition of emo.

Cho however actually proceeded with the act of killing himself instead of pussying out of it.

It shows humility. He places himself at a level equal to everyone else. He is saying "You are me, I am you. We both die."

>>3446440

???
And?... I have a sexual fetish towards names, does it get in the way of your day?

>>3446442
>>herp derp im so ice cold dont care bout nothing emotions are irrelevant

Oh well, I guess you don't realize how utterly wrong and worthless you are in my and most normal people's eyes.

>When inward life dries up, when feeling decreases and apathy increases, when one cannot affect or even genuinely touch another person, violence flares up as a daimonic necessity for contact, a mad drive forcing touch in the most direct way possible.

>>3446428
Again of of the hypocrits.

I'd like to say. Then again this is /r9k/.

Your logic fails. Why should i care ? I don't even know who died.

But baaaaw someone died , it is big on the media.
We should make this day a sad day etc.

I hope you are aware of the fact that every second people dies.

just go away ism

oh yay, ISM is back

I fucking hate you, and I was ashamed when I learned you were Canadian

>>3446442

You're 16, convinced you're intellectually deeper and more enlightened than the rest of the world, and sure that your air of aloof indifference makes you positively awesome.

It's ok sport, I was like that too as a teenager. No, I'm not an emotional guy about this sort of stuff now, but I don't parade around with a "God look at how rational and indifferent I am. JESUS FUCK MY E-PENIS IS GROWING SO MUCH! :D" attitude anymore.

>>3446487

don't give attention to the whore.

>>3446493

You're coming off ass extremely butthurt, just thought you should know

>>3446456

>He is saying "Oh fuck, oh shit, what now? Oh god the cops are coming, MOMMY I CAN'T TAKE JAIL D:"

>>3446474
Wrong?

Hahaha, couldn't laugh enough.

Tell me where i am wrong?

I am interested in your concept that is hopefully consistent.

>>3446519

Any rational human being would do the same thing.

>>3446493

Thank you. I guess we can't do anything but wait for these little shits to grow up and lrn2reality. They don't know what they're saying, ya know?

>>3446456

I think you're overthinking it.

UT rules apply: Kills = points, suicide = deductions.

GTFO

>>3446512

Whatever champ. You'll one day realize that those who try extra hard to flaunt their "qualities" are never as cool as those who simply exude them without needing to be an attention whore about it.

>>3446512
Don't care too much about such people.

They think what they are doing is right, mostly because they are just following the consensus and are emotionally backed up.

Everything they don't like to hear ->
uncreative insults like teenager etc.


(inbefore samefags)

>>3446519

If I was in Cho's situation I really don't think I would care at all about Jail. Really I think the guy knew he was past the point of no return and just shot himself instead of possibly getting non-lethally taken down by the police and having to deal with the consequences.

>>3446536

This thread i love it.

Hypocrits showing up and showing how stupid they are.

>>3446573

If he engaged police in a gun battle he could've easily ensured a lethal end.

is it just me or do germans have a way better average killcount that all those other school shooters
pic related

lol

a "hochschule" is not a highschool

its a university of applied science...

>>3446555

You know what? You're exactly right. I AM expressing what I think is right. This isn't about being lolrational, it's about being what I qualify as a decent human being, and that doesn't entail being a shithead who thinks that being bullied gives anyone the right to "LOL IMMA GO MAKE RANDOM PEOPLE SUFFER DEATH AND DOOM LOL" and then complain about how ebul and bad "society" is.

>>3446626

So you think people are born evil? There's a reason for these things, and you don't want to admit it it seems.

>>3446653

Of course there are reasons, but they still don't make actions like this justified or the glorification of the killer any less childish and naive.

Look, I would have less of a problem with it if a bullied person enacted revenge on their bullies AND THEM ALONE, because the bullies tend to have it coming. But what this guy, what Cho and most other school shooters did was literally kill people at random which is never EVER right.

And hell, even if you do get bullied, man the fuck up and do something with yourself. Prove them wrong. Going on a rampage is a sign of weakness and in most cases mental disease, like Cho who didn't have any reasons for his shit other than being an assburger psychopath. And considering the long history of serial killers, I think it's pretty fucking plausible that some people are indeed "born evil". A well-adjusted person wouldn't snap under bullies' pressure.

moot
>>3446742
>But what this guy, what Cho and most other school shooters did was literally kill people at random which is never EVER right.

I disagree. The people who died "at random" represent the enablers. Collectively, they enable bullying and thus, must die.

>And hell, even if you do get bullied, man the fuck up and do something with yourself. Prove them wrong. Going on a rampage is a sign of weakness

Ah, the "man the fuck up" response. Maybe it's the bullies who should man the fuck up?

Also, Cho did in fact, manned the fucked upped. Before he died, he went on to achieve the school massacre highest score.

>I think it's pretty fucking plausible that some people are indeed "born evil".

Let me guess, you're a religionist.

>>3445735
>I think it's pretty fucking plausible that some people are indeed "born evil"
You were obviously born a retard

>>3445823
Exactly. Before gunpowder was discovered, everyone was living happily with each other, there was no hatred at all, the world was at peace.

people who are "born evil" are called sociopaths

that is all

>>3446742

You must be some butthurt Christfag, am I right?

We need more shootings like this one to wake up society and show what's going wrong.

>>3445806
First thing a friend of mine said when we heard about this story in class today was "Where the fuck do they keep getting guns?". We're german, by the way.

>>3446808
>>3446915
>>religionist
>>Christfag

Dohoho, no. I'm a pretty staunch atheist, yet I believe in something called morals. Shocking, no?

>>3446742
It's actually relatively easy to pass the same judgement on those who bullied you as those who stand by and let it happen. American justice system works in much the same way. That the crime and punishment are different have nothing to do with it, fact is, they are guilty. I personally judge the ones who played those roles in my life equally, but I don't go killing them because I'm afraid of the consequences.