>>312907
I don't interact with students very much. I, however, have no problems writing papers with professors who openly disagree with what I have to say. So far I have yet to encounter anyone who blatantly lowers my grade because of ideological differences. My favorite professor is a utilitarian/feminist ethicist while I'm a borderline-conservative/Kantian.

I can't really imagine what other students would say if I actually had conversations with them, but I almost always disagree with whatever they say in class.

I just avoid talking about politics and social issues altogether.

I'm completely fucked, I can't keep my mouth shut, at all

To be honest, I'd put myself ideologically on the left side of the spectrum, but I don't really align myself with any particular political leaning. I do tend to get a lot of flak from people for disagreeing with them regarding stuff like the "Occupy X" protests. I'm Australian, and when people started protesting in Melbourne and Sydney, I raged. Our countries economy is ridiculously good considering the situation, and we aren't being screwed over like the US at all. When people got butthurt over a 'right to protest' on Facebook and stuff, I argued with them pretty fiercly.

In actual classes and tutes at uni, people don't tend to get annoyed at my arguments; I'm fairly articulate and present those points well.

The only other non-Leftist that I knew of at my college posted insane ramblings on his Facebook about how he's talking with God, and how God is telling him to do things.

>mfw

People whining at me for being different != persecution.

I just shrug it off. Ain't no thang.

I'm pretty lefty, but my mannerisms and way of speaking scream right wing. To be honest, I'm pretty ashamed at the way half the lefties at uni have jumped to conclusions and gone into full ATTACK THE LIBERAL CUNT mode.

As a capitalist (I don't say 'conservative' because I dislike the religious connotations) at a university, I find that nobody here cares about politics.

>>313058
On occasion it will go further than just whining. Some students often have to walk on eggshells when writing papers.

this thread reminded me of how funny i found it when conservatives turned the 99% thing into a chance to show how THEY were the ACTUAL victims (the 53% or whatever).

something about conservative ideals must draw in folks who want everybody to feel sorry for them.

Im just tired of retarded protests. *sigh
pic related.

>>313070
>lefties
>ATTACK THE LIBERAL CUNT
I hope that was a typo

I'm a card-carrying Republican, and I really just don't give a crap.

Pretty much this >>313000

I used to associate Nazism with Bush
when I was 10

There's a reason why I hate college I have little patience for bullshit especially from the left. I wouldn't call myself a conservative or a right wing fag, I think political labels are idiotic at puts limitations on thought, but I understand where most of them are coming from but with the left I don't get them

Any psychology majors here? Wanted to major in psych, but I hate discussing political issues because I know I would be burned at the stake because I tend to have unpopular opinions regarding politics, especially for a college student.

I know sociology and obviously poly sci is heavily political.

>>313097

Hes an ausfag.

Liberals are the conservatives there.

Yeah took me awhile too, but the "cunt" is a dead give-away.

>>313295
I do poli sci and have a tendency to just argue the opposite of whatever people are arguing regardless of my personal views, and it's never been a problem.

bawww my thought system is challenged by other educated people bawww I can't win arguments like I did in my backwards hick hometown

At my uni they're mostly harmless, about 60% of the student body is pretentious hipster wankers that drink fair trade coffee while they browse on their macs. We're a sci/engineering uni so the humanities don't have that much power anyway.

What annoys me though is how flagrantly out of touch with reality they are though. I agree with a lot of their positions in theory but it's like going to uni shoots the realism section of their brain. The worst one are the environmental students they just accept whatever their leftover hippy lecturer tells them as canon and then come and spew it all over us like they've consider the position at all.

>>313334

Sophist

That's cool though.

>>313419

Except politics isn't about being right or smart or educated, it's about making the most noise.

I totally know what you mean
I'll greentext an example

>talking about refugees
>not against refugees/immigrants, but try to think about things practically
>say that I agree that we have a duty to help these people, but there are other things to consider
>hipster chick asks "so you don't think we should let them in"
>I say "I think we should be looking for long term solutions to why they are fleeing their country in the first place. If everyone just runs to developing countries all the time then those countries won't be able to sustain them long-term"
>"so we shouldn't let them in"
>"Well maybe not. I don't know if it really solves anything on a world scale. I think people should be realistic about this
>everyone looks at me like I just announced I like molesting children.

I'm more of a libertarian but I'm very left socially.

I had what I thought was a polite facebook debate with some of my friends who are fairly liberal.

One of his faggot friends actually reposts this in response.

I'm generally leftist in my political disposition, but I despise the mentality of the people thats risen up around the left in the last few years. That whole "we're going to save the world while having no idea how to do it" thing just pisses me off. Especially when their efforts always boil down to awareness bullshit, which require next to no effort or thought when it comes to practical solutions, and is basically a drive to make issues into someone elses problem to solve (see: the Occupy movement). Plus if you ask them what their career plans are, 90% of them are going to mention the word non-profit, while still thinking they're going to be paid very well doing it. This shit just boggles my mind.

>>313440
Continuation of this post just because I feel like ranting. If I have to sit through another pseudo lecture talking about how capitalism has failed and why we're raping the earth I'm going to maul someone. I hate that when you call them on their obviously mindlessly regurgitated lecture crap about solutions not just problems all you get is vague (since no one in the lecture obviously bothered to ask for solutions) mumblings about 'corporations' and how Scandinavia's socialist systems are awesome.

>friends are all talking about the occupy protests
>i think the protesters are too self-entitled, want free handouts, and shouldn't be surprised when their english degrees won't get them good jobs
>point out that my college education is possible thanks to how much money the government gives me
>i could have gone to community college for free, but took out loans to pay the rest
>I made the choice to take out loans, didn't have to, so why should the govt forgive my debt?
>friends now hate me
>well, fuck

>>313530
As much as I hate to say it, immigrants from mexico are filing a labor gap being produced in most 1st world countries because people are having less kids.

google the japan age gap.

>>313651
Come to the Right side, we have cookies!

I don't know that feel OP, the only guy I know who is actually interested in politics has a Dad who had quite some political position and is a law professor, member of the more conservative of our big social democratic party. So he's pretty good with politics and not a fucktard. Everything went better than expected.

>persecution of non-leftists in colleg

Cool story, bro.

I studied Political Science at ROOSEVELT UNIVERSTY (and incredibly liberal, Liberal Arts University with an explicit commitment to Social Justice and typical Marxist professors).

Even at this University, the very epitome of everything you Conservatives loathe about "Liberal Academia", even there, Conservatives students were treated fairly in discussions and grading.

Hell, at some points the professors were TOO fair to the Conservatives. There was the once dunce in my Intro to International Relations course...dumb as a brick, but the professor would always let him talk, even when what he was saying had no merit whatsoever.

TL,DR: Allegations of bias against Conservatives on college campuses are largely a bunch of overblown crap.

>The persecution of non-leftists in college

I swear to god, everyone is being "persecuted" these days. Jesus Christ, get over yourselves.

I would rather see the world run in a hard right coporations ruling government situation, because in a world like that, i would be receiving the fruits of my labor.

Just because some people try and coast on coat tails, and the they have been slowly pulled from under their feet doesnt mean we all need experience a leftist shift so they can continue to be supported for doing dick all.

>>313093
It's a lot better than being some whiny little bitch who can't look after him/herself and expects the government to do everything.

Take some fucking responsibility for yourselves.

>>313713
> Implying that since the last social revolution uni's haven't constantly been a hotbed of sickeningly heavy idealism to the point of rejecting realism which is what makes the vast majority of uni hipsters pretentious cunts left or right?

>>313738

>expects the government to do everything

"Give me a hand when I fall on hard times through no fault of my own" != "Do absolutely everything for me all the time"

Fuck off, Repugnicunt.

>>313767

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RJ8bIb__bY

This is really what makes me mad.

One of the kids I went to High School with is in this video. We also go to the same Uni.

>>313767

>> Implying

Stopped reading right there.

Talk like a normal fucking person or be ignored. It makes no difference to me.

>>313679

The people on the right side has similar problems from what I've seen, just a different flavor. People on the right are god damned arrogant, and tend to take sole credit for their life being the way it is if they're successful to any degree, either totally forgetting or being completely oblivious to those that have helped them along the way. They think themselves far stronger than they actually are, and cry the loudest when things don't go their way.

Fuck left wingers.

I am very very slightly right and I try to stay out of political discussions with anybody my age

The few decent ones I've had though have been with Republicans and they have actually been very open minded and intelligent (though they do say ignorant things occasionally) when compared to right wing kids who are like "LOL LEGALIZE WEED OBAMA OCCUPY WALL STREET!!1!"

Nope.

But then again, I'm not American. We don't have this ridiculous left-right divide.

>>313805
*left wing kids

>>313797

Deal with it you pretentious faggot, this is 4chan, not the fucking White House

I'm A centrist.
That's right, well-balanced and not clinging to any extremities, which seems to be incredibly rare nowadays.

>>313805
HUH!? I cannot understand what my left or right are.

>>313817

see my correction:
>>313808

to be honest I dont talk much about polotics anymore because Ive realized there is no point in talking about polotics with people my age (18) because I realized that I/most people have no idea about polotics anyways, all they do is spew the shit they learnt at home or just repeat the same 10 things plus somehow I find debating about polotics useless because if some one agrees with you they agree if they dont its just like having a conversation with a brick wall which gets tedious and annoying

>>312907
I agree with this, I'm generally moderate, but also pretty informed and level headed. As such I can't stand all these "College Liberals".
The problem is non of them are informed about anything and just spout out all the shit they claim is wrong with the world and blame it on republicans and seem to believe democrats will fix it.

>>313840
This.
I don't talk politics with anyone my age (21) ever unless I know they agree with me. It seems everyone else just thinks you're wrong and wants to keep calling you an idiot until you agree with their opinion.

>>313877
>keep calling you an idiot until you agree with their opinion

every political argument ever

>>313877
>I don't talk with anyone unless I know they agree with me.

You know how incredibly narrow-minded that sounds?

>>313929
he means for the sake of a sane conversation.
people who agree with you already are more inclined to actually consider any opposing points you may have with them, allowing for a legitimate resolution. otherwise its just two people calling each other idiots for 20 minutes before they get mad and walk away

>>313840
>polotics

At first I thought you made a type-o.

I must say I found that amusing.

>>313940
Is that better than a circle-jerk?

>>313940
How are there opposing positions if he's presupposing agreement?
Fun Fact: Republicans and Democrats agree on 90% of their points, they just focus on the stuff they don't agree on.
And that's what you should be doing in a sane conversation instead of circle-jerking. Find out why someone else disagrees with you, research the facts as well as the implications and come to a conclusion.

>>314005
I'm not the guy you're responding to, but this:
>And that's what you should be doing in a sane conversation instead of circle-jerking. Find out why someone else disagrees with you, research the facts as well as the implications and come to a conclusion.

This idea interests me, because it is usually impossible to do in most settings where politics are discussed face to face. A long, long time ago, I was talking politics with someone at work, and he brought his facts from his news site of choice, and I brought mine (though, we were both paraphrasing; we didn't have laptops to literally bring up the webpages), but they both contradicted each other because the sites had inherent biases on opposite sides of the political spectrum. One would have to throw some sort of "truth gathering party" or something, in which numerous people showed up at a single person's house and looked over dozens, if not hundreds, of articles to get to the bottom of all the bullshit. For most people, who I assume discuss this sort of thing in small doses, that isn't possible.

This is why forums are so great for this sort of thing. It makes that "truth gathering party" possible, without any of the planning or the bullshit. Truth is exposed in mere seconds, unlike in the outside world, where it can often take several days to even find an article someone may have alluded to in speech.

I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying; I actually really like the idea. It just doesn't seem feasible for the kinds of discussions that most people have with each other about politics in the "offline" world. Hell, even during presidential debates, you'll get candidates who flat out LIE on stage, and then you'll have entire websites with entire teams dedicated to getting to the bottom of the rhetoric. It's just an overwhelming mountain of lies.

>>314052
I do agree with you. Face-to-face discussions depend a lot on the faces involved, whereas online discussions generally depend on the content discussed. So choosing who you're talking to about what topic is very important.

What I am saying is that I don't filter out my discussion partners if they don't agree with me. In fact, many of my best friends vote for the other big party in my country. But instead of name-calling and shouting matches we discuss our views on specific issues and we are not bound by party-constraints. I successfully changed a few minds on a few issues and I have also changed my own mind when presented with knowledge I haven't considered before.

becase op every conservative college-fag father is some rich fuck so the college fag is a stuck up cunt who think's he knows what hard work is even tho he has never worked a hard in his life aparently theory work in college is just as hard as labouring or so i am toled by college-fags who study art

dat persecution complex

OP, are you a Christian that thinks he's being persecuted by secularists/atheists, too? Give me a goddamn break.

seriously? why do political discussions always have to be either full on war or a fucking circlejerk?

>>314424

Because the Americans in the room can't see in colours other than black and white.

>>314644
>implying we as americans don't just merely look, but not see

Heh, you think being a mainstream kosher "conservative" is bad?

You guys still believe in leftist beliefs like racial egalitarianism, anti-hierarchical sentiment, anti-patriarchy, anti-tradition. Try being against virtually everything that everyone accepts for the past 200 years, seeing it as ultimately destructive, maladaptive behavior that wipes out groups who practice it.

The lack of any ethical argument is why conservatives lose, because you allow the left to dominate the middle ground and dictate the zeitgeist, it has been this way since the French Revolution. Think about how most of your arguments are limited mainly to the perceived impracticality of leftist policies, while this is right, it's not as compelling as arguments from emotion.

Read some Julius Evola and then some Lothrop Stoddard, get back on the right track.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/11/fraud-in-psychological-research/

This is an interesting article for anyone interested, it discusses the recent case of a leftist Danish psychologist who was recently outed as a fraud. He fraudulently concocted results on things like racial diversity.

Many leftist researchers (Boas, Gould, Diamond etc) were and are frauds. Especially in psychology. If the results don't fit, then they simply bin them and make shit up, just like Gould did with Morton's cranial analysis.

I'm conservative as fuck and everyone knows it. Some of our long haired weed smoking friends don't like that, but they're like umm too high to care and all dude.