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    181 KB Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:15:07 No.3091877  
    Anybody watching? Nigga's good. Whether or not you agree with him, the man comes out on TV, in prime time, lays out what he wants to do, and is now taking questions from the press. Like him or not, we made the right choice.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:17:09 No.3091896
    >the man comes out on TV, in prime time, lays out what he wants to do, and is now taking questions from the press

    Uh doesn't every politician do this?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:17:38 No.3091904
    >>3091877
    I was watching him interact with a crows, one on one for thirty minutes today.

    Either this mother fucker is the anti-christ or this is a Cinderella story in real life. This guy is good.

    I think we made a great choice.
    >> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc 02/09/09(Mon)20:18:01 No.3091910
    I don't think he was expecting a question about Iran
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:18:10 No.3091913
    i keep forgetting he's president
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:18:37 No.3091921
    this Iran answer is amusing
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:19:16 No.3091927
    >>3091913

    its weird. now that bush is out i don't feel like i need to keep an eye on politics.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:20:11 No.3091942
    >>3091896
    bush was a fucking ostrich when it came to televised press conferences, much less prime time.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:20:42 No.3091952
    That fucking nigger is interrupting house.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:20:56 No.3091956
    Agreed, it's nice to have a president, though I may not ally with him on all or most issues, that can communicate the goals and views of the current government.
    >> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc 02/09/09(Mon)20:21:01 No.3091957
    oh snap "bad habits"
    he just destroyed that question
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:22:03 No.3091969
    >>3091913
    When I heard he was going to be on I thought, "Obama got an hour in Prime Time? Wow, how'd he pull that off?"

    Then I remembered the campaign is over, HE'S THE MOTHER FUCKING PRESIDENT.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:23:04 No.3091980
    what channel? britfag here. wanna watch some obama. lads at work keep saying hes good
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:23:16 No.3091981
    Well, if the stimulus bill passes, I'm going to blame congress just as much as his administration for it.

    If that shit passes, I will RAGE SO FUCKING HARD. HUGE ASS MOTHER FUCKING RECESSION IN TEN-FIFTEEN YEARS? DO NOT WANT.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:24:13 No.3091992
    He really needs to drop the "uh" crutch.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:24:45 No.3091999
    >>3091980
    Whether you agree with him or not, only a dumbfuck ideological moron would say that he is a bad speaker. The man is a complete 180 from bush in terms of public speaking
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:24:58 No.3092001
    >>3091981

    recession in 10-15 years> collapse of the U.S. economy.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:26:28 No.3092020
    >>3091992

    He has said "uh" exactly 4 times in the past ten minuets. Chill out...
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:26:57 No.3092025
    >>3091999
    uh-List-um-en-to-ah-without-um-a-tele-ummm-prompter,-er-or a-ahh-unwritten-ummm-speech.

    He's not that great a speaker.
    >> Alexander Hamilton !AWSEfAcq6I 02/09/09(Mon)20:27:38 No.3092034
    >>3091981
    Possibility of huge-ass recession in 10-15 years > Depression now
    My only problem with the stimulus is that its not all that it can be. Every dollar should be squeezed for every job it can get and I don't think this bill is going to accomplish that.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:28:01 No.3092042
    >>3091999

    you mean 360?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:28:26 No.3092045
    CHUCK TODD. WHERE'S CHUCK?
    >> Mr. Bubbles !!DLJ3bQ7yunJ 02/09/09(Mon)20:28:31 No.3092046
    I am growing to hate him for his refusal to track down and wipe out Bush lackeys. You know why Germany has come so far since WW2, and Japan is still a Banzai away from regressing to an empire? Because only Germany bothered to clean itself of the shit left over from the previous leadership. Nazis still worked in the government, of course, but they were constantly told that the old ways were not only unacceptable, but evil.

    Bad leaders dont leave a government just by stepping down . They ooze corruption over everything they touch.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:28:47 No.3092050
    >>3092001
    Sup retarded guy, how's it goin'?

    You do know the recession after the stimulus package is going to be worse than any condition we could ever get into now, right? Either a mild bump in the road now, or a huge fucking problem in the future. The U.S. economy is going to be fucked either way, I just don't want ignorant niggers saying "OH LAWD ECONOMY WAS SO MUCH BETTA WIF OBAMA, HOW DIS HAPPEND?", economic relapse is inevitable right now, remember that.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:28:51 No.3092052
    CHUCK TODD MOTHERFUCKER STAND ON UP. THROW YA SET UP, TODD. THROW YA SET UP.

    MSNBC
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:28:51 No.3092053
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    He's...

    stealing, my...

    vocal STYLE.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:30:08 No.3092076
    >>3092025
    Nice and selective. Let me guess, people who bash bush are just jumping on the bandwagon and have no real reason for it
    >> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc 02/09/09(Mon)20:31:06 No.3092083
    He gives long-ass answers
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:31:16 No.3092086
    >>3091896
    Not the last one.
    He practically disappeared save for mandatory appearances.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:31:15 No.3092087
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    >>3091981
    Show me your Phd in international business!
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:32:04 No.3092098
    >>3091992
    >>3092025
    See, I find the "uhhh" thing to be kinda comforting. Makes it feel like he's thinking about what he says BEFORE he says it. You know he isn't gonna pull any of that "is our children learning" shit.

    So yeah, I'm happy with Obama. He almost makes me kinda proud of my country. Not in a 'MERICA FUCK YEEEAAAAHH kinda way, but still.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:32:35 No.3092103
    >>3092053
    Listen.....just because he talks, uh.....like William SHATNER......doesn'tmakehimanyworseofapresident.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:32:57 No.3092107
    >>3092083
    He never says in one or two sentences what he can say in a paragraph. I'm not complaining. He's not Bush.

    "Hurf durf, we're gonna smoke em out."
    >> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc 02/09/09(Mon)20:33:26 No.3092111
    >>3092098
    I'm pretty sure it was "childrens do learn"
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:33:28 No.3092113
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    tl;dl
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:33:43 No.3092115
    Obama's stimulus will make everything ok for the next 10 years, but then it'll get far worse then it is now. The thing is by then Obama will be out of office, and the recession will hit the next president who will be made to look like an idiot because of it. Obama will come out of it looking even better.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:34:02 No.3092118
    He lays out bullshit that idiot Americans gobble up.

    WHAT A GREAT GUY.
    >> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc 02/09/09(Mon)20:34:42 No.3092126
    >>3092107
    I'm not complaining either
    I think they're interesting, and it's been so long since I haven't had to cringe every time my president spoke
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:35:08 No.3092133
    >>3092111
    Hell, it could've been both.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:35:11 No.3092134
    >>3092098

    Pauses > Uh's

    Anyone who thinks he is a good speaker has never heard a good speaker. Or just a hope blind Obamabot. I voted for him, but not for his speaking skills. Regardless, its far superior to dubya, but that's not saying much.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:35:16 No.3092136
    >>3092050
    Chill man, I was simply noting that people are more inclined to better weather a recession if they feel there is a force (the stim package) at work to eventually end the period.

    The package is as much a mental solution as a practical one, people crying out for SOME form of solution to the economic turmoil. Its passage would be a message to America that the government is active in attempting to curve or at least control the damage done to the economy and the american people.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:35:35 No.3092140
    >>3092046
    Yeah, because debaathification in Iraq worked wonders, right?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:35:43 No.3092141
    >>3092115
    Just like after the great depression
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:36:23 No.3092146
    He is certainly intelligent, but this fucker is interrupting House with his little press conference. And he thought people wanted him dead before....
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:37:14 No.3092159
    >>3092134
    You're forgetting he is black. The average black person writes and speaks one correct word out of every 500. Obama is the Jesus of the black race, while in comparison is just slightly below the average white person.
    >> Mr. Bubbles !!DLJ3bQ7yunJ 02/09/09(Mon)20:37:34 No.3092164
    >>3092140
    People were too busy killing each other to clean the government. And things are actually improving now. They just got their first tourist since 2003, and so far he hasnt died or anything.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:37:53 No.3092169
    >>3092146
    You need to move to the west coast
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:39:04 No.3092185
    FUCK THAT FUCKER FOR POSTPONING MY HOUSE

    GODDAMN IT
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:39:30 No.3092191
    >>3092136

    I know, I know. It's just the fact that America needs a lot of money for the stimulus package, and it's money we won't be able to repay. We'll be taking money from people to give back to the people, however, we'll be taking money from those who are financially stable which in the long run could possibly screw them over. We'll have to tax the shit out of everything (see new cigarette tax) and it's just not going to end well. My biggest fear is that China will call us out on our debt within the next 20 years, and then we'll be ultimately fucked. I just wished that politicians would be more upfront, and warn the public of at least the POSSIBLE down sides of these sort of things. That way we wouldn't blindly support bills such as this.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:40:15 No.3092202
    >>3091952
    >>3091952

    I know right? What the fuck Obama, House is what made Mondays not fucking suck. We made the wrong choice. Fuck.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:40:18 No.3092203
    GIMME DEAD SOLDIER PICS NAO
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:40:41 No.3092206
    Get this fucking nigger off my tv. I already know he wants to spend more money.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:41:02 No.3092214
    >>3092169
    ...

    You realize house isn't being broadcast this week at all. Anywhere. Right?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:41:24 No.3092220
    Uhhh...

    He maintains the modern American political trend of vague, question dodging answers...

    Why? WHYYYYYYY?!?!
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:41:47 No.3092227
    House > President nigger
    >> Alexander Hamilton !AWSEfAcq6I 02/09/09(Mon)20:41:47 No.3092228
    >>3092115
    Ronald Reagan did it, why can't Obama?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:42:17 No.3092233
    >>3092214
    I don't give a shit about house
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:42:30 No.3092235
    >>3092118
    Having charisma gets you a lot in life.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:42:54 No.3092240
    >>3092098
    Only a blind partisan could spin crappy public speaking as a quality.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:43:18 No.3092249
    House is a shitty sitcom with a fake atheist. enough with the bawwwfest.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:43:34 No.3092252
    >Afghanistan
    >base used to launch 9/11 attacks

    Respect for Obama just plummeted.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:44:34 No.3092268
    >>3092115
    I have never heard this before. Please explain to me why.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:44:55 No.3092272
    >>3092252
    I know
    it was clearly Iraq
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:46:01 No.3092287
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    Spending bill? They have a word for it.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:46:17 No.3092291
    fox news trolling the press conference
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:46:28 No.3092293
    30% failure rate. Hell, that beats 4chan to hell.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:46:38 No.3092296
    <Obama> LOL FOX NEWS
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:48:00 No.3092313
    >>3092296

    heh.

    FOX should be banned access to press conferences. They will never ask a legit question.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:48:18 No.3092318
    >WHAT IS YOUR OPUINION ON STEROIDS IN BASEBALL

    What a stupid question.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:48:33 No.3092321
    >>3092249
    Better than watching a nigger spending more of our money.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:48:33 No.3092322
    WTF are you guys talking about with the "uh"s?

    Being a good public speak doesn't mean being a seamless extemporaneous speaker. It means being able to give a good, written speech (which he clearly does well). Beyond that, with respect to his answers, he says "uh" but anyone would do that, provided they are thinking about what they are saying. It's not the case that if you put fillers in an extemporaneous answers that you're a bad speaker

    You guys are fucking dumb and have no idea what you're even talking about
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:48:43 No.3092325
    FUCKING SPORTS ANALYSIS?

    IN MY PRESS CONFERENCE?

    FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:48:49 No.3092327
    >>3092042
    If you honestly think Obama has the same speaking ability than George "I fuck up the English language" bush then you really must be drinking the koolaid. You dont have to agree with obama, i sure dont, but to think that his talent for public speaking is on par with bush means you are the biggest incompetent fagot on earth. Do yourself a favor and grow up past all this red vs blue rhetorical division and see things for what they really are
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:48:55 No.3092328
    And people are surprised some call him elitist?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:49:12 No.3092336
    WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS HE TALKING ABOUT GODDAMN BASEBALL WHO GIVES A FUCKING SHIT?!?!

    JESUS CHRIST MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS BROKEN HOW DO I FIX IT??
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:49:31 No.3092342
    FUCK YEAR HELEN THOMAS
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:49:55 No.3092345
    >Do you know of any countries in the Middle East that has nuclear weapons.

    inb4 he purposely doesn't mention Israel, but mentions Iran and Syria
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:50:05 No.3092350
    Who the fuck is that disgustingly old bitch, and why the fuck is she asking BaRock a question?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:50:43 No.3092360
    I didn't watch the conference. Did he respond to the criticisms, i.e. some of the items in the spending bill being called frivolous and not creating jobs?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:50:58 No.3092364
    To the people saying "lol this bill fucks us 10-15 years down the line" - this is a way to buy time. Obama has 8 years to work on the US economy. The hope is that this type of stimulus is only a temporary patch, and can be fixed properly in the future.

    But something fucking needs to be done now, so he's doing it. Bush fucked shit up HARDCORE. Fucking jesus christ. He was worse than incompetent - his policies were actively just about as universally pisspoor as could be.
    >> PhantomGlaufag !!xBH0E3dtH6B 02/09/09(Mon)20:50:59 No.3092365
    >>3092046
    Comparing the Bush Administration to the Nazis or Imperial Japan is a little much, don't you think?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:51:22 No.3092369
    >>3092322
    >Being a good public speak doesn't mean being a seamless extemporaneous speaker. It means being able to give a good, written speech

    Isn't that called being a good writer?
    >> ArcadiaExpress !3GqYIJ3Obs 02/09/09(Mon)20:51:23 No.3092370
    DURR HURR HE'S A NIGRAAAA FUCKIGNG KILL HIM FROM A TREE NIGRA NIGRA DURR HURR DE HURR
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:51:23 No.3092371
    >>3092345

    Fuck. Seriously. Why don't we just add another star to the flag already?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:51:38 No.3092376
    lol pac ee stan

    mewbtlocksorz
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:52:23 No.3092386
    DUDE, OLD LADY DRACULA
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:52:52 No.3092392
    Huffington Post? The fuck?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:52:56 No.3092395
    >>3092328
    no, people were pissed that being labeled 'elite' was somehow turned in to a bad thing when you are talking about THE MOST IMPORTANT FUCKING JOB ON THE PLANET.

    fucking morons think being the best at something is a negative.

    AND HOW THE FUCK DOES HUFFPOST GET SOMEONE IN THIS? FUCK THEM.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:52:58 No.3092396
    Mmmm, delicious accountability. You must eated it.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:53:05 No.3092398
    >>3092376
    Don't forget the Tal-Ee-Bahn. Sure beats nuc-you-lar, though.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:53:14 No.3092400
    >>3092369
    no
    being able to write a good speech is called being a good write
    being able to give one is called being a good speaker

    dumbass

    wtf are you even comparing his speech to. Do you see "good" speakers and think their words aren't already written out

    Who give a "good" extemporaneous speech? Do you have even 1 example?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:54:14 No.3092407
    dear faggots, he isnt "reading" from anything when he answers questions. therefore he is an intelligent speaker.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:54:56 No.3092417
    >>3092400
    Man, you're a poor "write."
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:54:58 No.3092419
    >>3092369
    Not samefag

    You honestly think most people do not prepare most of their speeches in advance? To say "lol, it was written before hand" means that you think the last 7 decades of American speaking was nothing more than just "lol, check it out, i am reading or memorized what I read"

    The place you live where nobody ever has written out a speech beforehand does not exist anymore and it merely means you are bashing him on a meaningless technicality rather than an actual intelligent reason
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:55:41 No.3092427
    >>3092417
    phew
    you almost looked like you had no idea what you're talking about and got destroyed by my argument
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:55:41 No.3092428
    >>3092407

    dear dumbass, we are commenting on his speaking STYLE (its not particularly good) not his intelligence.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:56:21 No.3092436
    >>3092364
    >The hope is that this type of stimulus is only a temporary patch, and can be fixed properly in the future.

    Except...it can't be properly fixed...Money has to come from somewhere broski, we don't have the amount needed.

    Also, I'm not terribly worried about it, every country goes into recession after a war, but god damn, we've survived every other time without anything close to a stimulus package, why change things now?

    >Obama has 8 years to work on the US economy.

    The U.S. Constitution says you're wrong. It's not a given he'll be elected again.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:56:32 No.3092441
    >>3092400
    But how are "speaking" skills demonstrated by simply reading a pre-written speech?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:56:38 No.3092442
    >>3092428
    commenting idiotically
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:56:49 No.3092446
    >PLEASANTLY SUPLISED!

    lol weeaboo
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:57:07 No.3092448
    that thing he just said about tax cuts was pretty funny
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:57:31 No.3092453
    SPEND MONEY OR OUR ECONOMY WILL NEVER RECOVER!!!!
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:57:58 No.3092457
    >>3092441
    because he is speaking in public and not obviously nervous
    Have you ever had to speak in public? Are you good at it? Did you write it out first

    seriously, you don't even know what the terms you are talking about mean. Just stop. You're too dumb for me
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:58:19 No.3092466
    Thank god they're still showing Heroes today =]
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:58:32 No.3092471
    >>3092427
    I'm indifferent on the issue. I find your desperate grasps at seeming intelligent amusing, however.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:59:18 No.3092479
    >>3092471
    I'm glad you're pleased
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:59:21 No.3092482
    "Doing nothing is not an option."

    Actually it is, and is in fact the most effective thing the government could ever do. Fuck your stupid bills.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:59:43 No.3092491
    >>3092436

    >Except...it can't be properly fixed...Money has to come from somewhere broski, we don't have the amount needed.

    That's why you fix the economy. That's where the money comes from. broski.

    >Also, I'm not terribly worried about it, every country goes into recession after a war, but god damn, we've survived every other time without anything close to a stimulus package, why change things now?

    Because of how badly the Bush administration fucked shit up. It wasn't just one war. It was a whole slew of catastrophic policy decisions.

    >The U.S. Constitution says you're wrong. It's not a given he'll be elected again.

    True, it's not a given. But if he does a decent job, it's pretty certainly his to have.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)20:59:47 No.3092493
    You have to remember that Bush stopped being president on September 1st really, I mean he didn't make speeches in public much, didn't talk to the press at all.

    These feelings of "Fuck me, Obama is president" are stemming from the fact that we havent had one for a while. Plus he's really good.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:00:41 No.3092507
    >>3092345
    And what would be the point in mentioning that? To make Arabs feel better? Or to make pro-palestinians feel better because "Oh wow he said something not in support of Israel - they're so nasty and evil, trying to kill people dedicated to their destruction."

    "Oh look he said Israel has nuclear weapons, obviously he knows because America is controlled by the Jews. This is good - now we should develop nuclear weapons with impunity because a small nation threatened with annihilation that has never used nuclear weapons against Arab nations is obviously the Small Satan. Allahu Akbar."

    What the fuck do people want or expect Israel to do? There's been nearly a half dozen times the past one hundred years Palestinians have dropped the ball on a two state solution, rejecting it because they don't want Israel to exist at all. Israel isn't blameless, they frequently go overboard in reaction to Palestinians, but if you were an Israeli having rockets fired at you - WHAT THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO?

    People like you don't understand war.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:01:08 No.3092515
    He should've left with "lata niggaz."
    >> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc 02/09/09(Mon)21:01:26 No.3092520
    his answers were roughly 7 minutes long each
    amazing
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:01:33 No.3092521
    THANK YOU GUISE

    *fuck this shit*
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:01:50 No.3092523
    >>3092191
    China will never call in US debt, because ruining the US would ruin them even worse. They rely on US trade far too much. That, and the possibility that the US would just say "hey fuck you, I ain't payin".
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:01:51 No.3092524
    >>3092457
    I'll stop, but only because you're a fucking idiot and there's no point discussing things that your partisan fever keeps you blind to.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:02:45 No.3092537
    >>3092524
    not because you can't answer any point that I've made, I'm sure

    you are pathetic, guy
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:02:51 No.3092538
    >>3092523
    >:((((((( EXTERNAL DEBT DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:02:56 No.3092540
    OMG OMG OMG WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING NOW OR ELSE EVERYTHING WILL BE FUCKED UP

    THE MOTHERFUCKING SKY IS FALLING AND WE NEED A JILLION DOLLAR 2X4 TO HOLD IT UP SO WE CAN THINK JESUS MOTHERFUCKING CHRIST PASS THIS SHIT OR ELSE WE WILL DIE

    YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE EVERYTHING TO GAIN

    lose everything....or buy into this "painless gain"

    it is the standard argument of a con man

    everyone panicked and rushed into iraq

    now everyone's panicking and rushing into hundreds of billions of dollars of debt
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:03:09 No.3092544
    >>3092507
    >what would be the point in mentioning that?

    Because that's what she asked you fucking dipshit. When someone asks a question, you fucking answer it. Jesus tittyfucking Christ, are you dense? Is everything a political spin to you? What's your fucking problem, man? What's your fucking problem?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:05:48 No.3092582
    >>3092540
    I know. He was using out and out scare-mongering today. Guess we won't be seeing much change afterall.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:06:14 No.3092590
    lmfao, he sure told the Republicans and Libertarian faggots
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:07:22 No.3092604
    History has proven, time and again, that government spending stimulates economic growth and prosperity.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:07:27 No.3092605
    >>3092491
    Ah but is seems your solution to this problem is spend more, worry less. Though I could be misinformed, it's just you're expounding the matter in that sense. The stimulus package will help the economy for a short period of time, though it's not like it's going to give us magic trillions to spend on other problems. Even after we fix the economy we'll still be in a state of debt, we don't have the resources to have anything work in the long run right now.

    True, the Bush administration did nothing to help our situation, but they didn't do a bad job either. Personally I've hated our congress the past 10 years, so I'm not expecting them to pull anything worthwhile out of their asses.

    If the Obama administration does happen to fix this in a conventional manner, I will praise the man as if he was a God...Though that is a rather large if.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:07:29 No.3092606
    >>3092482
    Delusions like this make me want to start a group called Americans Against Libertarianism.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:07:53 No.3092613
    oh shit did boy just say pockyston?

    DESU KAWAII KURUMA DE YO ^_^_^_^_^
    POCKY WA OISHII DESU NE?
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:08:59 No.3092626
    >>3092606

    it's called the democratic party you motherfucking dumbass
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:09:18 No.3092630
    Someone should stimulate my package.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:09:49 No.3092639
    >>3092441
    The same exact way you could have a great voice actor speak lines from a book or radio drama as opposed to someone who is a terrible voice actor. Writing and speaking are two completely different skills. Thomas Jefferson was an amazing author or many important documents, but he was a terrible speaker. Hitler was not a very good writer but an amazing speaker.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:10:09 No.3092642
    >>3092613

    oh lord i loled and now i feel as guilty as if i fapped to gay porn
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:10:22 No.3092644
    >>3092626
    and the republican party. And the green party. And the socialist parties, and everyone else that isn't a libertarian.
    >> Jack Saw 02/09/09(Mon)21:10:43 No.3092648
    >>3092524
    You're a fucking moron. He's right, public speaking is not about making up something on the spot. Every well delivered speech is prewritten, practiced, and structured.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:11:31 No.3092659
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    mmk this isn't even a real political debate... you see for this to be open for discussion its VERY important for the opening to make since "Like him or not, we made the right choice." this isn't true if i didn't like him (and i don't) then i wouldn't believe that we made the "right choice"

    wtg newfag
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:13:26 No.3092673
    THIS JUST IN

    BARACK OBAMA CHOSEN TO BE VOICE OF TAKESHIDO KAMEN IN A NEW REDUB OF SAILOR MOON
    >> fashion diva !3wJfpCMhKc 02/09/09(Mon)21:14:30 No.3092678
    >>3092673
    Obama would be the best seiyuu ever
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:15:25 No.3092686
    The cutest thing is when reporters on CNN just call him "Barack"

    and then they kinda blush and say "Barack Obama... PRESIDENT OBAMA"

    I've seen Anderson Cooper do it like 3 times.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:15:51 No.3092691
    >>3092659
    i wasn't asking your opinion, i was giving mine. the fail is yours for thinking i (or anyone) gives a shit about what you think.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:16:19 No.3092694
    >>3092686
    you just made me fap to anderson cooper
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:17:25 No.3092704
    A trillion dollars is a terrible thing to waste.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:18:17 No.3092714
    >>3092648
    >Every well delivered speech is prewritten, practiced, and structured.

    Ergo, Obama's speech was not a well delivered speech.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:18:38 No.3092719
    >>3092686
    It shows what huge Obama cocksuckers they are.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:18:45 No.3092722
    AHAHAH THE DUDE WITH THE MUSTACHE ALMOST SAID


    ARTICULATE
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:19:29 No.3092728
    >>3092714
    1) you're dumb and clearly didn't understand the context of that guy's post
    2) the beginning part (the part that was written out) was perfectly fine... well-delivered, even
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:20:10 No.3092735
    >>3092719

    Nah it's cause they feel like he's familiar... like you could just call the nigga up and shoot some hoop, then cheel in the crib and watch Good Burger.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:20:15 No.3092736
    >>3092728
    JOKES ON YOU BITCH. I NEVER EVEN HEARD THE SPEECH!
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:23:50 No.3092767
    >>3092735
    oh man I fucking love that movie
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:25:04 No.3092786
    >>3092714
    Ergo you are a cynical dumbfuck who thinks that magically, people dont think about, or even write down what they are going to say before hand. Im so sorry if it makes you rage so when a nigger become president, but to stretch so hard to grasp straws just so you can discount that he IS actually a good speaker is so painful to see. I guess winston churchill, berry goldwater, and MLK jr must all be complete dumbfucks who were only reading instead of really speaking.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:26:13 No.3092799
    >>3092786
    > I guess winston churchill, berry goldwater, and MLK jr must all be complete dumbfucks who were only reading instead of really speaking.

    No, they were good speakers, unlike the nigger.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:27:06 No.3092806
    >>3092799
    Be happy the nigger can speak english at all.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:28:45 No.3092832
    >>3092799
    But they wrote down their speeches beforehand! OMG, they are terrible speakers cause they thought about what they wanted to say. You are an irrational and cynical twit. I dont even like obama, but to think that he is a bad speaker is honestly pretty fucking stupid
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:31:04 No.3092873
    Man it'd be fun as shit to watch Good Burger with Obama.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:33:14 No.3092905
    THIS STIMULUS PACKAGE IS LIKE TRYING TO FIX YOUR CREDIT CARD DEBT BY TAKING OUT A LOAN

    FUCKING STUPID
    >> RepublicuntLobbyist !H5nbtYBA4A 02/09/09(Mon)21:34:22 No.3092921
    Oh noes! Only government can save the US.

    Fuck. That.

    Jesus christ, you people are retarded.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:36:19 No.3092946
    economies are dumb, destroy them all and revert to hunter-gather acivilization nyoro~n
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:39:26 No.3092988
    yea i watched it. i guess all we can do is wait to see what this stimulus thing does and some of his other plans. of course the amurcan people will have to help this along too.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:44:41 No.3093056
    >>3092905

    Nothing makes me rage harder than this level of stupidity about economics in this current economic situation. Why you fucking faggots have decided to remain ignorant of what's going on is beyond me.

    For the last fucking time: This is not like taking out a loan to fix your credit card debt, this is like securing additional revenue streams (eg, get another job) and investing that money in your own business/your companies business (if you were in an influential position within the company).

    Not that you should be comparing government to a regular person, or the free market to international monetary policy - those two things work differently. Bonds do not necessarily devalue when they suddenly move in big numbers (shares devalue if for instance, someone dropped a lot of them at once), and governments have a different relationship to money (eg, they can get it for free from you, they don't have to work for it).
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:48:44 No.3093105
    ITT: faggots parrot back things they've heard on TV that they think they understand, but really don't.

    They just pick a party that closest resembles their lifestyle and agree with whatever it says.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:50:15 No.3093119
    Pffft, he's just a jew wearing nigger skin. I honestly don't know how he can manage to scarf down so much jew cock in a day.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:57:50 No.3093204
    No matter how badly the stimulus fails Obama will still get credit for fixing the economy, even if he doesn't fix it at all.
    >> Anonymous 02/09/09(Mon)21:59:35 No.3093232
    >>3093056

    sounds like a lot of words just to say they're going to print money like pokemon cards
    >> RepublicuntLobbyist !H5nbtYBA4A 02/09/09(Mon)22:01:08 No.3093249
    >>3093056
    What? You are the fucking retarded one.
    You realize that every dollar they print off that press, is another dollar that is going to directly inflate the economy?
    Spending money on such a grand scale is never good.

    Sure it's going to help stem our deflationary period, but if you push it way too far, it's going to turn into hyper-inflation.
    This irresponsible passing of bills spending trillions of dollars (yes with interest and other costs this "823 billion" dollar "stimulus" package, is going to cost us over a trillion) isn't going to help us much.
    You're fucking retarded for believing it will, look at the loans given to the American car companies, did those help at all?
    No.
    They are probably still going to have to file bankruptcy. We wasted what, 20 billion on those companies, now for nothing.



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