Apparently. Most Republicans deny evolution. I don't know if they do it to gain evangelical (ie, ignorant) votes or if they genuinely don't believe in reality.

That image is so very untrue that I don't know what to say about it.

You can't pick and choose what parts of science you accept.

Good thing it only happens in the United States.

Considering that evolution is only a theory, yes.

Except I thought Christianity's official position on dinosaurs was "hoax."

i thought dinosaurs where put on earth by the devil to trick us

Politicians all know evolution is truth.

Their dumbfuck electorate don't, so they remain vague whenever questioned.

>>3091455
Well that used to be the case and as Christianity has done pretty much every time that mountains of evidence for something that contradicts their position arises, they change their story to include now indisputable facts and then try to shove it into their own old ideas saying that it actually proves they are right. Now christnuts think that they are real, just that humans lived along side of them. Have you ever heard a christian trying to claim that Balthazar was actually a dinosaur? Pretty freaky stuff

It is acceptable for politicians to deny the theorem of evolution if they are eminent and experienced scientists presenting an alternate theorem which is falsifiable and matches the evidence better.

Also if I took away one good thing from Religulous it's that the Vatican has scientists and they think evangelicals are crackpots to deny evolution.

Yeah, if you live in Utah.

>>3091451
Oh me oh my! A troll!

How's the bridge? Any billy goats wander by recently?

Everyone knows that dinosaur bones were planted by aliens when they were building the world.

>>3091543
You mean by mice, right? After all Earth was only the greatest computer in the world

>>3091424
not to me
>>3091445
yes you can

>>3091451

ITS A SCIENTIFIC THEORY YOU DUMBFUCK

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

>>3091520

Read Nonoverlapping Magisteria, by Stephen Jay Gould.

Anthropologyfag here, and I obviously believe in evolution, but one thing that pisses me off is when people ALWAYS translate "religious" as "anti-evolution" or "anti-science". The modern Young Earth Creation Science movement is really just a few decades old, and is really more political than religious.

>>3091565
>Earth... in the world
Er what.

It was the greatest computer in the UNIVERSE, built for a single program which ran for billions of years, and was destroyed moments before the program finished.
Fucking vogons.

>>3091598
but the implications of it are that organized religion or anything that goes further than a simple creator-god who does not interfere with the world, is obviously wrong
religious people just engage in doublethink, and thus i reserve the right to take that as anti-scientific

>>3091596
>ITS A SCIENTIFIC THEORY
>THEORY

My case exactly. Fucking hard left athiestfags are so fucking annoying

>>3091648

Seriously, read that article.

Atheists get too wrapped up on the metaphysical implications of theism, that they don't bother realizing that most Christians (i.e., non-evangelicals and Old Earth creationists) see actual Christian teleology just as made-up as we do, only they don't make a big deal out of it. Religion as a cultural device is more about moral order and answering unanswerables than it is about how big the Big Imaginary Dude In The Sky's cock is, in cubits.

>>3091660

Yeah, you're an idiot. "Theory" does not mean what you think it means.

>>3091565

SPOILER - The mice were aliens.

>>3091424
Yeah, it is, sadly.

>>3091660

There's a difference between normal theory and scientific theory.

Mainly, a scientific theory has evidence backing it up. If it doesn't have evidence then it's just a hypothesis.

>>3091692
I think you dont know what a "theory" is

>>3091725

almost not quite

>>3091445
And the Islamic world... and parts of Australia and Europe.

>>3091660
Gravity is a theory. And I don't see many people trying to say that large bodies don't attract because of that.

http://rapidshare.com/files/195976813/Randolph_Nesse_Interview__1-5__-_Richard_Dawkins.mp4.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/195977259/Randolph_Nesse_Interview__2-5__-_Richard_Dawkins.mp4.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/195983173/Randolph_Nesse_Interview__3-5__-_Richard_Dawkins.mp4.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/195983760/Randolph_Nesse_Interview__4-5__-_Richard_Dawkins.mp4.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/195993800/Randolph_Nesse_Interview__5-5__-_Richard_Dawkins.mp4.html
This is relevant to your interest.

>>3091735

Well, it's close enough.

>>3091684
I know you'd like to think that, but experience tells me otherwise. May just be a product of where I live (Bay Area, California), but Christians around tend to be hugely butthurt about evolution and science in general.

I think the evidence is with me here, if you look at who we elected last term and, for example, Prop 8 in California.

>>3091725
Thats what you think only because its what you have been told. Have you ever seen anything evolve? Of course not, so then how do you really know? Anyways the 2nd -->LAW<-- of thermodynamics proves that evolution is impossible. You must enjoy living like a sheep being spoonfed propaganda to you

>>3091728

A theory is a framework of organized, tested and/or falsifiable ideas that is used to propose a solution to a natural phenomenon. Theories range from the Theory of Gravity (er, we're pretty fucking sure it's right) to String Theory (er, we have no fucking clue if it's right or not), in veracity. The defining quality of a theory is not how TRUE it is. The defining quality of a theory is what it DOES. Namely, a theory is a set of ideas that go about explaining some heretofore unexplained natural phenomenon.

>>3091756

Well, no, not personally, but there has been a case of evolution happening in our time.

The Finches that Darwin used for his theory have evolved in our time because there was a long time of rain, or something like that, and their beaks adapted to this to be able to get more food.

>>3091684
i understand your point, and it's probably true. but with christianity making up as much as 99% of the population in a lot of areas in the united states, and in most of those areas you're unlikely to find the sort of rational christian you espouse. The other side of the issue is that rational christians who reject theology aren't on tv raging and making noise.

>>3091756
Just stop. It's too obvious now. You have failed in your trolling. People, don't bother pointing out the flaws in this post. He knows. He's a troll. Everyone reading this knows. That's why he's trolling. Just stop.

>>3091755

Sup, San Diego fag here. We have some pretty batty right-wing Christians, too. But really, even if they don't realize it, their strife is a political one, not a religious one (or, for the dumber ones, just an intelligence one.) I tend to see religion as a tabula rasa; stupid lies outside the realm of theism, despite what many, many, many cynical atheists would have you believe.

Note that this doesn't apply to the Christian fundamentalist movement, which is growing rapidly, but still relatively small and relatively new.

>>3091684
>Read Nonoverlapping Magisteria
i couldn't really be bothered to be honest, but gould and the NOMA concept have been heavily criticized by atheists like dawkins in 'the god delusion', which is pretty boring tbh.
>don't bother realizing that most Christians see actual Christian teleology just as made-up as we do
i do, and i consider the entire point of someone defining themselves as one thing and not actually accepting the implications as one of the most idiotic and dishonest things someone can do. i mean, who would walk around saying they are a republican, but vote democrat and never agree with any republican policies? or identify as a buddhist but go to church every week, perform christian traditions and not know the first thing about the eightfold path? people dishonest with themselves who engage in doublethink is who.
that 'end of faith dude', who is sort of a douche, defines this moderate belief as 'failed extremism', and i'm inclined to agree. people like that aren't christians at all as far as i am concerned.
>Religion as a cultural device is more about moral order and answering unanswerables than it is about how big the Big Imaginary Dude In The Sky's cock is, in cubits.
which is completely unscientific in both the method of reasoning and in it's character, thus i reserve the right to take it as such.

>>3091424
No, but that you have to talk about it in terms of "Denial" means that you are a Believer. That means that you accept science as replacement for theology and have adopted a theology of science which makes a mission out of destroying other theologies.

There is nothing noble about believing in science and there is nothing noble about violently disrespecting the beliefs of others. There are maybe about 1-2% of people who will have their day to day thoughts about evolution actually matter. Odds are you're not one of them, so really, why bother with a little war when you are never going to really mess around with it anyways?

There is as much evidence in the theory of a magical God in the sky creating life as in the theory of evolution - which is ZERO.

I how evolution-fags try and act all 'high and mighty' over religious people when these evolution-fags are addicted to their own 'dogma' as religious idiots.

>>3091737
You know that is a good question, I often wonder in which other countries this "intelligent design" creation/evolution debate happens besides the USA. Everytime I hear something about this is about some small school district "reviewing" their programs in Wherever, USA.

Is there any other country where this happens? As a side note, what does Islamic countries' education systems have to say about all this?

>>3091756

Virii, bacteria, soot-covered moths on London logs?

Also, entropy only increases in a closed system. The universe is a closed system. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. The EARTH, however, is not a closed system. Bodies consume energy, give off heat and waste, this heat and waste is lost.

>>3091789

Dawkins is a bit of an annoying fuck with an axe to grind. Stephen Jay Gould knew what he was talking about.

>>3091756
"Creationists always try to use the second law
to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw: the second law is quite precise about where it applies,
only in a closed system must the entropy count rise.
The Earth's not a closed system, it's powered by the sun.
So fuck the damn creationists! Doomsday, get my gun." MC Hawking

I dare you not to rage.

http://answersingenesis.org/articles/2009/02/06/feedback-so-old-you-can-see-it

Guh, it's... it's... FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

0/10 stop noww plox

moootieblox

>>3091797
Exactly

>>3091779
This is what makes 4chan amazing. When liberals hear a different opinion from their world view, they immediately scream troll because evidently no thinking person could disagree with them.

The fact is that life is far to complex to have just happened out of chance, much like a clock, an intelligent designer must have created it. I dont see a car and think "wow, in thousands of years this thing just magically came together and works wonderfully. Im so glad that chance makes such an orderly and technical world"

>>3091853

Christfag here. I raged hard. The "I encourage you to read about how Jesus came to save the world" shit at the end enraged me even more.

>>3091740
If this were true, I'd be getting laid all the time. ;_;

>>3091876
GTFO Troll.

Cars and clocks aren't organic, growing beings. Evolution is about as close to proven as you can fucking get. We know this by looking at how bacteria evolve and change, just like other organisms. We can see this ourselves because obviously, bacteria have short lifespans compared to us.

No please, if you want to troll, go to /b/. If you really believe this shit, go to /k/.

>>3091822
whatever help you sleep at night

>>3091915
I do really believe this shit and im so sorry it makes you rage so much. It must really piss the fuck out of you out of the fact that someone thinks differently than you. /k/ is a great place, but dont think for a second that just because im a thinking patriot that I should be segregated from the rest of the hard left thinking 4chan

Ron Paul doesn't believe in evolution and he's pretty acceptable around here.

>>3091876
Over half a century's worth of experiments have demonstrated that organic molecules can arise from inorganic, given the right conditions. You do not seem to understand the concept of the passage of millions -- let alone billions -- of years of time. You can look at a living thing and decide it's too complicated to come about naturally? Based on what, your "gut feeling"? Your lack of appreciation for the marvelous and intricate universe disgusts me. Fuck you.

>>3091876
I really hope America keeps on taking your crew seriously.

if you live in america it is.
unfortunately.

>>3091660
Too bad you don't know what a theory is from a hypothesis. Go suck on your moms nipples baby

>>3091985
The only thing I respect about Ron Paul is that he really means what he says. It just too bad that the things he believes in are just fucking dumb

>>3091915

nothing + nothing = nothing

life does'nt just happen.

inb4 "THAN WHOO CREATED GAHHD?!"

>>3091995
>Your lack of appreciation for the marvelous and intricate GOD disgusts me. Fuck you.

>>3091776

Why isn't the troll responding to my post here?!

>>3091876

NO U

Evolution had all the time since forever. The coin was simply rolled enough times to get life.

Just. Random. Fucking. Chance.

>>3091965 thinking patriot; hard-left 4chan

hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Wow. Lemme guess, you've never been, let alone lived outside the south/midwest have you? If you think the people on 4chan are hard left, you've got a hell of a lot of adjusting to do when you hit the real world outside Hicksville, TN.

If you hit the real world, that is. Chances are you'll stay there and rot for the rest of your life in a shite service sector job.

WHO CREATED GOD MAN?

>>3091965
>>3091965
No, you should be segregated from humanity's gene pool.
But whatever, the more people take you seriously over there, the more scientists come to the EU instead of the US, so it's fine by me.

Remember, science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.

>>3092035
nice try, but god is not the universe
thanks for playing

>>3092043
well that leaves an equal chance that God was created by chance, If theres nothing in this void of space, there nothing exist. So the day god was accedently made marked the begging of time, so on a technicality, god has always been.


fuck, i do to many drugs.

>>3091965
ilol'd. Christ, these people never cease to be a source of wonder and entertainment. Then I realise they represent a large segment of our population.

FFFUUU etc, etc. I rage because stupid people get to vote, and stupid people like you make all Americans look bad. Face it man, you and your ilk are a national embarassment. We are ashamed of you.

>>3092077
god is everywhere according to most theists and appreciation is subjective, so your argument is moot

>>3091995

given the right conditions? so if i stare at a magnet long enough it'll turn into a hotpocket?

>>3092090
Brain... hurts from such stupidity. Time is, was, and always be. Time never 'started'. Pretending to be able to understand it one way or the other is just folly. Pretending that an all-mighty creator created is childish.

>>3092109
nigger go hang yourself

ITT: FAGGOTS WHO NEEDS TO BE HUNG

I wish there were more people who questioned evolution on scientific grounds and not just "lol Bible told me nope". People that question popular opinion and stir shit up are the ones that make the most important discoveries. Unfortunately that's about as rare as anti-abortion atheists.

>>3091965
exactly, you are not thinking, you believe shit other people made up and you take that as a dogma which is a handicap when trying to form coherent arguments

also /k/ is for faggots

>>3092131
the right conditions: such as an aquatic environment with gases that were present in the earth's early atmosphere.

troll harder, nigger

Why is it so hard for peopel to accept both?

Im a Christian and I see how they both happened at the same time... its called not interpreting the bible literaly. You can be a good Christian and do it at the same time.

>>3092131
If those were the right conditions.
It will most likely degrade and lose magnetism.

It must suck being as stupid as you.

>>3092131
Oh come on, you must be trolling. Did you even go to middle school? This shit is really basic, it essentially boils down to commons sense.

WHAT IS THERE NOT TO GET?

111111/10 because this shit is so infuriating.

>>3092142

but if theres nothing to be subjected to time, time becomes nothing.

>>3092161
So nit-picking the parts of your religion that work with you and leaving out what you don't like is okay?

>>3092120
there is no empirical evidence for a god
there is empirical evidence for the universe

the theists can say they believe a god exists everywhere as much as they want. it does not that mean he is or does.

>>3092161
how can you just selectively decide to follow the words of god that you do like, and not follow the words you don't?

>>3092059
meautsssss

Yes, hard left. I have no doubt that if I went to the communist states of America I would be shocked, but thats also why I wont go there. The fact is that I want to work and keep what I have instead of give it all away to poor people just sucking up handouts. We are already in for a terrible 8 years with this nigger communist terrorist lover. It boggles my mind how the USA could have fallen so far to elect someone who openly has disgust for this great nation

>>3092183
Ahhh-hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

Oh please, stop, you're going to make me piss myself.

moot <3 |3oxxxy

>>3092189
no my point is there is nothing in the bible that goes directly aganist evolution.
And for the record doesnt go aganist my religion im Catholic and guess what bitches Catholics get evolution its acknowledged as real cause we are smarter than the fundys

>>3092239
except for the whole of genesis
but other than that

>>3092239
Yeah.. except for genesis. Catholics are not Christians by the way so dont bring up those faggots

>>3092264
wut? A christian is anyone who believes that Jesus will save them... that the ONLY criteria

>>3092204 I'm bigoted and willfully ignorant becuase of them commies in New York and California

Oh please.

As for taxes, a southern/midwestern poorfag like you has only taxcuts in store from said niggrah-terrorist-lurver. But seriously, /b/ is that way. That's where you go to troll.

>>3092264
>Catholics are not Christians
>Catholics are not Christians
>Catholics are not Christians
And no true Scotsman...

You're an idiot, fuck off and die.

>>3092262
but you dont take it word for word. Thats the only way to intrepret a text that old.

DO I think Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale for a few days and taken to another part of the world so he could spread the word.
Hell no But I do see that the story is telling the Jews how their religion needed to be spread regardless of race or country.

>>3092204
Why do you hate America?
Why do you hate science?
Why do you hate democracy?

>>3092301

You seem reasonable. You accept that the entirety of the bible, without exception, is allegories and symbols representing much larger issues to be used as a set of moral guidelines.

Some Christians, however, think the bible is documented fact.

>>3092262
And the several mentions of Yawheh as creator of everything in pretty much all the Bible books.

>>3092277
save them from what? oh that's right, the rest of the crazy shit in the bible that they also accept.
>>3092301
so you admit you take the word selectively?

>>3092264
Catholics are the majority of christians. Just because you convinced America that only evangelicals are christians it doesn't make it true.

>>3092319
Exactly! Thats what it is.

Im sorry for all the fundys out there who dont fucking get it, im just trying to be vocal and get the word out that not all Christians are idiots.

>>3092354
no idiot just save them, there are jews for jesus and Wiccans who worship jesus and ya know what? despite the other stuff they do they are still Christians

>>3092367

Do you also acknowledge that the bible was written by man and God, in all probability, doesn't exist?

:o

>>3092301
But that's your interpretation, so that's where it starts to be come a problem. Since it can't be taken literally, its open to interpretations...but every power-hungry sonofabitch, raving fanatic, or well-intentioned reformer has had an interpretation of his own that says something completely different. IT SAYS HERE WE HAVE TO KILL THE JEWS! OH WAIT NO, LET'S LOVE THEM! STATE AND CHURCH SEPARATED! DISREGARD THAT, GIVE ALL TO GOD!

>>3091756
What's it like under the bridge.

Catholicism is less retarded than Protestantism in some aspects and it has the ability to reform each 500 years or so

BUT IT'S STILL A RETARDED BELIEF

I was catholic, i read the bible, pass through the rituals (except confirmation) and finally came to that conclusion

>>3092455
Woo, me too, but I went through confirmation because my dad gave me a car.

>>3092393
i think these people are beyond help

Whether they do or do not really believe in evolution, everyone knows if you agree with secularism you are not going to win.

>>3092472
sellout

popeblocks

Anti-evolutionists make me rage so hard.

I mean, I've only done about 2 years where I volentarily studied Biology, and I could quite easily teach the fundimentals of evolution to a 7 year old and they would understand it.

I could, if I were so inclined, teach them in depth about how the process happens, or go into the more hardcore ideas such as HGT and sexual selection.

I can even give documented proof of evolution - be it scientific experiment, natural studies (moths, wolves, etc) or unnatural selection in animals such as mice and dogs.

I could even take time out to explain some of the aspects they see as impossible (genes created by chance, wings evolving, eyes evolving, etcetc) by using scientific views

It just infuriates me that the whole thing is so simple to learn and research and they don't bother.
Anyone, on topic; no, it isn't acceptable.
Not just because it's such an obvious truth (albeit incomplete), but also because it's at the backbone of modern biological science, and without that science we would be screwed when it came to finding cures for serious desieses, or even preventing the flow of those desieses in the first place.

Denying it would be on par with denying the basic laws of physics in terms of stupidity, as without those laws we would still be in the dark ages, and neuclear weapons could be seen as 'no threat, because they don't work'

>>3091451
>>3091728
DEY C ME TROLLIN', DEY HAITIN' LURKIN WHILE DEY TRY TO CATCH ME POSTIN' DIRTY.

Christian, n. A religious person who believes Jesus is the Christ.

>>3092587
the worst to me are like this chick I dated who said evolution happens around us but humans never have nor will they ever evovle because " we were made in gods image"

Darwins Black Box was a intresting book.

>>3092633

Ouch, man. I couldn't stand a relationship like that.
Seriously.
I suppose the only humane thing to do is to fuck her rigid until she blasphemes.

Although, to be honest, we have fucked up our evolution somewhat, havn't we?

>>3092672
ya know funny enough she didnt have a problem with that part

What I hate most is women like Tyra Banks pissing and moaning about how they're strong women when they've never even had an ounce of adversity.

Then you have fake feminists who piss and moan about inequality, demand preferential treatment, then fuck up, and cry about how they're "just a girl"(See Palin's vice presidential campaign)

Girls are indoctrinated with the notion that it is OK(and encouraged) for them to be manipulative, vapid cunts in order to get respect. Watch any TV show, some girl is bound to say something like "BOYS ARE STUPID HURR MY VAGINA HURTS"

>>3092650
Yeah, it made a great doorstop.

>>3092720
u all is just mad cause u know when you die u gonna go to hell.
what ever makes u feel better at night.

inb4 '0/10 obvious troll'
etc etc

>>3092740
your gay! No touchbacks! Har har har.

ffs, Theistic Evolution. A perfect mixture of logic of evolution and metaphysics of spirituality/religion. Allows the "why" question to be pondered up. Evolution is just "how."

>>3091433

No they don't. You fucking faggot troll.

>>3092962
Hurr hurr, yeah that's great

how: science

why: magic

idiot

>>3093002
Well, aren't you the cool guy? You said "idiot" in response to something. No, it's not based on "magic," because as far as I'm concerned Science and Faith are just different sides of the same coin. Like everything else in existence, they are intertwined. It only make sense that one effects another.

>>3093055

They do. As we learn more about science, faith becomes more and more discredited and unnecessary.

That's all the intertwining there is between them.

>>3092962

religion is superfluous after evolution explained our origins. religion has lost any meaning.

>>3093071
I have found the opposite to be true. The more we discover about Science, the more science can be applied to religious text, and the more we are allowed to think about God. In fact, evolution likely cannot occur without some type of higher power, whether it be God, or energy. Science brings things about Faith to light, and vice versa.

>>3093055
You are an idiot. Faith isn't based on anything but blind belief. You can believe and pray all day if you want, but in the end no magical entity is going to save you from the embrace of the cold ground.

Your "faith" is just the evolution of the childlike beliefs of our Cromagnon ancestors and Neanderthal cousins. It's just the same thing ignorant humans have been doing for millions of years: attributing scientific phenomena to some magical source.

You might as well call yourself a jedi and pray to Luke Skywalker for all the good it will do you.

>>3093102

> In fact, evolution likely cannot occur without some type of higher power, whether it be God, or energy.

Back up that claim right now or shut the fuck up forever.

I'm sick of shit like this.

Jesus fucking Christ.
Faith - believing in something with no evidence that could be complete bullshit and made up
Science - looking at data and forming theories that best fit the evidence
Also, the creation of the universe has nothing to do with evolution and microevolution is a fact, you can literally see cells adopt new parts to fit their environment.
Just thought you may want to know, christfags.

Hey rowboats, how about a compromise?
God is a brilliant and all powerful creator, but instead of making everything happen as it happens, He wisely establishes a set of laws that every particle of His creation must obey, and will allow for the development of complex orgainisms. He then starts of with a bang, and the system is in motion, only needing slight tinkering every now and then. Why this way? He gets to sit back and watch the universe unfold, rather than having to make every bit of it happen. A little surprise every now and then spices up eternity. And Genesis can very easily be interpreted as a metaphor for evolution, as the things created get progressively more complex, the same general trend for evolution.
Pure creationists are retarded, but there are reasonable theistic alternatives.
tl;dr Gray area is a happy place sometimes.

>>3093108
Hahah, more atheist arrogance. Faith is not blind belief. Faith is whatever you want it to be. For me, it is placing belief in a higher being, and then asking questions, doing research, and finding new ways to think, and new ways to apply thought. I do not have the answers, I have an idea for living. And whether death is nothingness, or an afterlife, or something in between, I can rest assured that I found solace with myself, my co-inhabitants, and the universe.

>>3093108
>call yourself a Jedi and pray to Luke Skywalker

what if i do both of these already?

>>3092976
you are not representative of republicans faggot

just representative of trolls

>>3093149
what DO you believe, broski?

im curious as to what religion you follow

>>3093149
faith is stupid
why place your hope in something that has no chance to be correct? i don't have faith i will win the lottery, for example.

>>3093149
HURR DURR PERSONAL DEFINITIONS

grab a dictionary faggot

>>3093145
Christfag here, but where the fuck did it ever say that God created the big bang? What about before that, did you think even? Fags like you make us look bad.

The idea that evolution caused the big bang is absurd, unproven by any scientific process and utterly ridiculous as the basis for a religion. If it wasn't the fact that the big bang occured billions of years before the earth even existed it's the only argument atheists use to back it up being "there is no physical proof of god". For a start dragging god into this is irrevelant (it's annoying how atheists try to drag god into every discussion) and secondly god is a metaphysical concept so physical proof doesn't prove anything either way to begin with.

pic related, intentional starvation of predominately orthodox christians in the Ukraine by the atheist stalinist regime of the soviet union

>>3093182
I find a lot of trouble identifying my faith. I generally describe myself as a Non-Denominational Christian Existentialist. The problem is that I sound like a fundie when I talk about atheists, and sound like the biggest atheist when I talk about fundies. Both are dangerous and it's essential to find solace with God on your own. No Church can tell you God's Will.

>>3093211
yeah, like religion hasnt killed aNYONEEEEE


WOOOOOOOOOO

>>3091424
Short answer is "Not acceptable"

The long answer is that chemicals react with one another within contraints, and those constraints are entirely within the measure of natural events, of either forming chemicals that are capable of replication, or altering existing chemicals that replicate.

tl;dr
Just you go ahead and try to deny evolution, just realise that you'll be denying basic chemistry and chemical reactions. FYI, you'll fail every fucking time, because you can not physically deny shit like hydrogen-carbon bonding.

>>3093196
Wow, you are immature. Did you ever think that words have multiple meanings?

mootblocks
>>3093197
>where the fuck did it ever say that God created the big bang? What about before that, did you think even?

FUCKlN THlS, i've been wandering about that since i was 7, then i reaIized time is an illusion and that causaIity doesn't need a causation

I don't think I could ever believe in a God that feels human emotions, or will change his plans on a whim from a quick prayer by the bro down the street, seriously gaiz.

>>3093264
hence we need to establish common definitions if we want to understand ourselves, what makes you think your definition should be canon for everyone else, specially if you like to spew metaphysical bs

grow up

>>3093132
>>3093132
>>3093132
>>3093132
Fuck you niggers, I want some criticism of this at least.