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So I was browsing the web earlier when this thought crossed my mind... what exactly do normalfags DO all day?

Think about it - when was the last time you met a "normal person" with any real interests? I personally know only a handful of people who are interested in any kind of culture (whether it be film, literature, music, fashion or even video games) and they're all outcasts. Even many people who are involved in some kind of athletic activity like hiking or camping (not sports) tend to be outcasts.

Previously I've thought normalfags might watch TV most of the time, but it seems like it would be impossible to do that for hours on end without gaining some kind of cultural knowledge (and if you do it for TOO long you'd end up becoming another outcast). I've also considered that they might play sports, but you can't exactly do that all day, every day now can you?

This conundrum is really getting on my nerves. What are your thoughts, /r9k/?
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If you ask any normalfag what they like to do all day, they will answer with the following:
>hanging out
>talking to friends
>texting
>listening to music

Every time. Normalfags are the most boring dicks on the planet.
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20+ hours of the week spent on Facebook, admiring duckfaces of people they hardly know.
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You can't just classify anyone who isn't in your little permavirgin club into one group.

That's fucking stupid.
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>>3073907

This is what bugs me. How can you consider "listening to music" as one of your favorite activities, and yet only know a handful of shitty pop artists? And how can you talk and text so much, and yet be totally unable to hold an interesting conversation for more than a few minutes?
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>>3073941
And by anyone, I mean everyone.
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Normalfag here. I don't do much. I work, drink with friends or drink alone. If I'm visiting my fiance in Santa barbara, I go out a little more. We go on dates and go to parties, where I often blackout. Sometimes we just stay in and watch movies.
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Normalfag here. I spend my free time cooking, playing the bass, hanging out with my girlfriend, going out to restaurants, theaters, clubs, festivals, drinking and shooting the breeze with strangers at the bar, smoking weed, riding my bike around the city, writing stories, reading books, going swimming, fixing up the apartment, working on my car, dicking around on the internet, playing pool (in a league), and fucking.
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>Still complaining about normalfags on /r9k/
>The year of our Lord Two Thousand Twelve

Fuck off, OP.
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People on 4chan still think its 2001 and only nerds know about the Internet.
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>>3073941
If you are a socially successful person, you are a normalfag.

The term is NORMALfag for a reason. If you are considered a "normal" person you are by definition in the majority of society, therefore it stands to reason that the vast majority of people are normalfags.
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>i drive across the country going to music festivals
>spend 3 days in a tent on the beach tripping my nads off
>drive to cali and spend a few days in san francisco
>go surfing
>right now im sitting in my living room with my friends smoking pot and sitting on /r9k/ while everyone watched Tosh.0

its fun to leave your room
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>>3073897
Normalfags can't stand to be alone with their own thoughts and need constant validation of their place in the heirarchy, therefore they have no interest in skills and hobbies. Things are "good" because the constant chatter that surrounds them says that they are "good," (Hunger Games, college football, etc) and things are "bad" or "boring" if their is no social proof derived from engaging in them (model airplanes, linux, Faulkner novels, etc.)

So what a normalfag does all day is engage in conversations where they state what they perceive before their very earballs lest they cease to exist (omg this weather can you believe it omg u have the cutest baby it is cute omg my boss is pregnant can you believe omg this girl is hot i want to fuk it omg u know what i like pickles i like pickles this jar of pickles reminds me that i like pickles do u like pickles man this weekend i'm going to dance and be seen maybe i'll dance with a PICKLE lol u r funny u shld be comedian) and engage in socially permitted activities so people don't think they're weird while watching grey's anatomy and law and order reruns so they are fluent in mediocre normalfag culture.
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>>3073970

You don't understand. By "normal person", I'm referring to people who seem to function well in society despite their lack of a personality or hobbies of any kind. For example, a hispter or a metalhead would not be a "normal person".
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>>3074004
Normalfag

>>3074017
Normalbro
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The archetypical /r9k/ normalfag spends their time on mainstream entertainment. They watch summer blockbusters, follow the biggest names in the most popular sports, only listen to chart music, play over-hyped big-budget video games, read whatever just got adapted into one of the previously mentioned mediums.

Basically, people just do shit to have something to socialise over rather than because it interests them.

Not that /r9k/ has any sort of grounding in reality.
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>>3073897

On weekends/social days I go out and skate, smoke weed, go clubbing, whatever.

On weekdays I study, computer game in spare time, play trumpet, or read.

You don't need a lot of shit to keep your time occupied really
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>omg u know what i like pickles i like pickles this jar of pickles reminds me that i like pickles do u like pickles

I really hope you're not badmouthing pickles and are just using them as an example.
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>>3074088
Pickles are so normalfag that they're the Cee-Lo Green of condiments.
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>>3074105
B-but they're my favourite ;_;

Well, besides pickled onions.
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>>3074051

So you generalize most people in the world into one group?

Do you not realize how FUCKING RETARDED this is?
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You know OP, most people are really lonely, seriously believe it or not, most people have like 3 or 2 friends if any, even the good looking girls/ dudes, stop living in your "normalfag hate " fantasy, when you actually talk to people you will realise that most of them are bored of everything
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>>3074051
What if you're like one of those guys who's always super happy but is really the serial killer whose been throwing people into the TV
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I think it all hinges around inane socialization. They have social groups they talk with and hang out with, and the talk tends to center around gossip concerning other members of their group, from what I have overheard. They will also talk about work, and when they settle down and have families, they talk about their spouse / children or what it's like to raise kids, crap like that.

They do have some interests, just not as many, and usually shallower. I.E. they will talk about American Idol or reality TV, they will talk about the occasional book but it's usually like Chicken Soup For the Normalfag Fat Gullet, they will talk about video games but it's something like Farmville. They also love sports as you said, and they will talk about teams and players in the same obsessive way that nerds talk about gaming stats or whatever.

Now, I'm being mean to normalfags, but I think another reason they tend to have bland interests is just because they don't have the luxury of getting into more shit. Normalfags generally work a lot. The foreveralones on here are usually subsidized by their parents and don't have to do shit ever. And quite frankly, the foreveralones on here are actually more boring than normalfags - the most interesting people tend to be pampered college types who are still more socially functional than the /r9k/ stereotype.
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Normalfag is the longest running strawman argument on 4chan. Where are these normalfags that have no hobbies or interests? Everybody has hobbies and interests, the only people who spend their lives watching game shows and drinking beer are white trash losers who gave up on their dreams. Most people aren't like that. Maybe if you tried talking to people, you would learn about their interests and they might not seem so normal after all.

Whats so abnormal about you people anyway? You know how to use a computer and go to a website? You enjoy video games and japanese cartoons? Oh wow that's so crazy, you are such an amazing and eccentric person how could I not want to get to know you.
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>>3074143

This

Most people are at home looking for shit to entertain themselves about 50% of the time. They're watching a show they like on Netflix or listening to music they like wishing more people liked it too.

They're like you.

The difference is the other 50% of the time they're out with friends having a drink or something.
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>>3074134
I don't see how it's retarded really. It's not meant to be a malicious or hateful thing I don't think. But when you're lonely and depressed, you tend to view the world in black and white a lot. "Those who have friends" being the normalfags, "those who do not have friends" being yourself and the few like you. It can strangely feel good sometimes to vent and take your anger out a bit on what you view as the "privileged majority" of society. But that's just from my viewpoint really.
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>>3074134
> "Most people in my country are average-looking"
> "So you're generalizing people into one group? That's retarded."
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>>3073941
Actually normalfags are way more conformal than nerds if you exclude physique.

They are good to hung around if you are interested going to a club or bar once in a while, but their conversation and views can pretty much categorised in gurlz, okey dudes and borderline bimbos/guidos. The only interesting ones are closet nerds and mentalcases trying to fit n. There is always the socially successful normalfags with a wide variety of options but they're so 1% that your chances to hung around with are minimal.
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>>3074143

This is why I hate these virgin losers. They think everyone around them is rich and successful and they are just the ugly duckling that never got to be a swan. They think we (the 'normalfags') are all just blissfully unaware of how shitty life can be; we're all just a bunch of dopey dopes walking around with ipads and laughing at the new Ben Stiller movie.

Well I hate to break it to you, but us "normalfags" know all about how shitty life can be, we know what its like to be rejected and abandoned and ignored. The difference is, we've moved on. We grew up and adopted a positive outlook on life because we don't want to be selfish, depressing, whiny lumps of shit like you who try to drag us positive people down.
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I've found the easiest way to get along with just about anyone.
Adapt, adjust, but don't lose yourself.
I generally don't have a specific taste in music.
I don't have certain things that I really like to do.
I don't prefer one type of person to another.
I listen to whatever music is put on.
I do whatever we happen to already be doing/plan on doing, and just enjoy the company of those around me.
I find things that I like/dislike about everyone I meet, and understand that absolutely everyone is equal.
The only person that I can even think of that I don't get along with well is a meth addict, and we still have fun sometimes.
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you motherfuckers are full of shit

"normalfags"? you ARE fucking normalfags. fuck this. where's the chick who stone believes she's a fucking dragon? where's the guy who has sketched the same 1920s murder scene over and over for the past 20 years because he's convinced that's where history went wrong? where is the man who rubs LSD on cell phones people leave out? the person who draws every possible pokemon porn pairing? the various subspecies of weeaboo? even the fucking low-normal obsessive gamer type?

fucking /r9k/ and 4chan are over, they have been gentrified to shit, nothing is helping. normalfags my ass, you are just some lonely niggers. shit.
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>>3074244
>shit like you who try to drag us positive people down
That sound delusionally narcissistic.
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>>3074170
look someone whos not a fucking idiot

on 4chan

whoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

theres hope
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>>3074258

even the fucking NEETs, let alone the hikkis, have moved on. you got a 200 reply thread of twee relationshit garbage. fuck, nigger.
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>>3074244
You have friends to turn to when life gets shitty on you. A "forever alone" person does not.
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>>3074244

>but us "normalfags" know all about how shitty life can be, we know what its like to be rejected and abandoned and ignored. The difference is, we've moved on. We grew up and adopted a positive outlook on life because we don't want to be selfish, depressing, whiny lumps of shit like you who try to drag us positive people down.

Eh, I see where you're coming from, and it's true the foreveralones exaggerate shit, but there can often be a pretty major difference. Some people here have no friends, or have like one acquaintance - and they are not exaggerating when they say they're alone.

I notice a lot of times normal people go "oh I don't know anybody" and then it turns out what they meant by that is "I have ~10 acquaintances and 3 close friends". They like to underplay how social they are, or they don't comprehend the extent that someone can be alone and cut off from social contact. Going out every week and talking to people on a regular basis and having a social network effects many things in life that people take for granted - loneliness obviously, access to sex obviously, self esteem obviously, but also job access, information about the world, access to "common sense", perspective on your own problems, etc.
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The only interests you guys have are talking about being lonely and talking about all your great interests.
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Normalfags thinking they achieved something makes me laugh. If someone is successful in a field, where he spend his life working at being better at it, making risks, wining and losing he will always had my respect. But getting a job, gf and cooking hobby isn't all that special.

inb4: hurr durr you are autistic virgin with no gf
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>>3074244
>Well I hate to break it to you, but us "normalfags" know all about how shitty life can be, we know what its like to be rejected and abandoned and ignored. The difference is, we've moved on.

Spoken like someone who was never on the bottom rung of the social ladder in elementary school.
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ITT: "us normalfags"

Just because you can identify with the lowest common denominator doesn't make you a normalfag.

4chan is a fucked up place and a form of escapism, either you admit it to yourself or not, and normal well functioning people would frown upon it.

Look at this faggot:
>>3074244 He claims to be a "norrmalfag" yet he lurks the saddest and most beta board on the asshole of the internets for confirmation on that. Your normalfag-wannabe insecurities are equally sad yet less amusing than the average emo, hipster or trekkie attentionwhore.
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>>3074262

Deluding yourself isn't always a bad thing, Mr armchair psychologist.
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>hanging out
>talking to friends
>texting
>listening to music
The Slightly Older Person often adds:
>cooking
>reading
Yep, normalfags are... what? boring? Wait a minute... Ah-hah! Let's discuss the Value of Socializing for a moment. All socializing is learning, problem solving, if you will, but in an indirect fashion. Maybe this is the most comfortable way of learning because school has taught us to learn this way: one person leads a classroom... It is of course proven that a one-on-one teacher-student relationship results in faster and more complete cognitive ability... perhaps in most classrooms we are TAUGHT to have INCOMPLETE thoughts! Solve as a group! (which is why the japanese can get shit done but can't innovate).
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>>3074244
> We know exactly how you feel but we're just stronger than you!
Keep telling yourself that. Truth is, you haven't experienced anything even resembling true depression, isolation and rejection, but that doesn't stop you from going around and acting like you know everything about our pain. You've experienced some minor emotional turmoil, recovered and now think that you're some kind of god of willpower and that everyone else just needs to "man up", because you did.
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I told my brother a few times I didn't know anybody, and he doesn't seem to understand it. Like he goes "who do you know that could help you look for a job when you move" and I have to explain repeatedly that I have no contacts. Another thing normalfags never have to even think about.
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>>3074352
Amen. My favourite aunt an-heroed because most of her social circle thought "clinical depression" is synoymous to "overreacting".
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by r9k standards, I'm normal. I have friends and go outside have hobbies and all that.

but when I'm not working or hanging with friends I'm here or watching TV or playing vidya, I have no idea what my friends do when they aren't around, and they don't know what I do.
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>>3074343 cont.
4chan is remarkable because of its fostering a different type of problem solving - no one is afraid to stand up immediately to 'solve' a problem (no matter how incorrect they are) and 'listeners' are free to immediately accept or reject the information - and subsequently interject their own knowledge.

That's what makes us Not-Normal.

We look for the answers without pretense of popularity or sugar-coating. We discard everything that isn't necessary, and we allow ourselves to take leaps of logic and follow them to the Creative echelon of thinking. Because of the separateness of us physically, we blossom into wierdness, without hurting each other. In a sea of almost 7 billion, it is a blessing to be weird.
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>>3074390
This is exactly the thing really.

A normalfag hears "I have no friends" and they literally do not comprehend what that even means at first. They think you mean "I have only a few friends" or "I do not have a very good relationship with my friends" or "I am not secure enough in my relationship with my friends to admit they are friends". You literally have to spell it out a good 2 or 3 times before they realise "I have no friends" actually means "I have no friends".

And then they'll go off on their rant about "How can you have not a single friend?", still in utter confusion at the entire situation, completely bewildered by the fact that it is possible for someone to not be socially successful in life.
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>>3074352

>haven't experienced anything even resembling true depression, isolation and rejection

I think it's safe to say that most people our age have experienced all of these things. You are not a special case, you are just an ordinary person with an attitude problem.
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They talk about miscellaneous shit.

They aren't one-sided in their interests.
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>>3073897

They talk, text, phone, anything. Sit on facebook (for hours at a time). They have music playing constantly (I knew some extroverted 'normalfags' at university in my flat, there was music playing 24/7 in their rooms).

Remember, they can't deal with silence, because that would mean having to think.

They proclaim how they're 'so bored xD lol someone text me' even though they have the entire information of the world at their fingertips via the internet.

If this all fails, they go find someone to talk to in person or sulk trying to find them.
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>>3074449
This is like saying that everybody has experienced brain cancer. Those mental problems don't happen to everyone (just like cancer).
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Everyone knows what its like to have no friends unless they've lived in the same city their entire lives. You make friends, you have a few laughs, you go your separate ways. How many people do you know still hang out with all their high school friends? I mean Jesus Christ, this is what life is, kiddos. Things aren't always going to be perfect. Do you really think you are entitled to anything more than to be alive and breathing?
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>that feel when I hear normalfags talking about not having enough time while I slack off all day
actually not a good feel.
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>>3074432

Yep, pretty much hit the nail on the head. Lack of sex ties in with that - people can't comprehend that you can be a virgin in your 20's and have never even had a relationship.

I think it's sort of a one-way empathy problem. Socially isolated people can understand what it is like to be "normal" because there are normal people everywhere, walking around outside, in the media, etc. But socially normal people do not comprehend some of the foreveralones you see on /r9k/ just because it's utterly alien to their life - usually socialization is a kind of unconscious, automatic thing, so it never occurs to them that it might not happen for everyone. Also socially isolated people obviously don't get seen or talked to much, so it's as if they don't exist.
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>>3074432
Mid-cemester I was forced into a team for a field-course project. and had to keep open communication and socialize with them non-academically in order to establish a more fluent ooperation.

That was the closest thing I had to IRL friends in the last few years. When the cemster ended I did not manage to keep any contact other than facebook adding.
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>>3073964

Remember, they just have music on to fill the silence (extroverts/normalfags HATE silence, it leaves them with their own thoughts). They're not actually listening to it properly or finding new bands.

>And how can you talk and text so much, and yet be totally unable to hold an interesting conversation for more than a few minutes?

Because they're not approaching conversations like an introvert. They're talking about nothing. "Lol I was so drunk last nite" "What you up to tommorrow?" "Hey man we should totally hang out next week wanna go XYZ?"

Comon guys, think like an extrovert.
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>I personally know only a handful of people who are interested in any kind of culture (whether it be film, literature, music, fashion or even video games) and they're all outcasts

What the fuck are you on about? I read all the damn time, sometimes I surf 4chan when I'm super bored, I go on hikes and long walks, I smoke cigarettes, I watch funny British sitcoms like Black Books, and I hang out with friends and talk about what I'm reading.

inb4hipster, for fucks sake I look completely normal. Because I'm a normalfag, an intelligent fucking normalfag at that. And I only hang out with other intelligent normalfags because life's too short for anything else.

Some of my friends definitely are really awkward and nerdy but by no means all.
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>>3074449
When I was a teenager I was in and out of crisis centers for suicide attempts because I felt depressed, rejected, and socially isolated.

I didn't realize until ten years later when I was actually depressed, rejected, and isolated that the feelings I thought I felt during my teen years were a picnic.

So, no, you probably haven't experienced any of those states, normalfag.
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>>3074477

>Robots and people with brain cancer are pretty much in the same boat.

haha oh wow
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>>3074518
It's an analogy. Not even the most delusional robot would genuinely think being lonely/friendless is equal to brain cancer.
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>>3074518
Oh god, are you seriously suggesting that everyone had clinical depression in his life? Or some kind of other worse mental problem?
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>>3073897
Back when I used to hang out with people it basically went like this
>spend all day trying to get weed
> finally get it
>get high
>sit on a couch for 2 hours not saying anything

when we couldnt get weed
>play first person shooters
>friends would be texting the whole time
or
>friends would be on facebook the whole time

They would give me a lot of shit for playing mmos all day but I had fun. They on the other hand were some of the most boring, banal, judgmental tools on the face of the earth. While the lack of socializing has made my social anxiety 1000x worse, isolating myself from the world has made me a much more relaxed person. Why anyone would want friends is beyond me.
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>>3074529

>Not even the most delusional robot would genuinely think being lonely/friendless is equal to brain cancer.

I do think it gradually warps your mind and alters your view of things around you. I've seen studies suggesting that loneliness and lack of a social network will in fact lead to earlier death.

So, in terms of effects, assuming you're talking about long term aloneness and not temporary stuff, it's actually pretty similar.

I will admit I am 50% trolling you, but I can't help thinking there is still a point there.
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>>3073897
>They sit on facebook and reddit all day
>Text because they always have people texting them
>Go to parties and actually dance, drink, etc..
>Hang out with friends all the time
>Play sports

Basically having a big social life is what makes a normal fag
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>>3074562
Oh real isolation fucks with your brain hard. After uni i had online job and no contacts, few years later i have high anxiety, depression, getting paranoid and suicidal. And same mental problems stop me from getting new contacts. Fucking loop without way out.
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I was partnered up with this one guy at a sailing event a year ago. I asked him what his favorite activity was, he said "Sports."
What do you like to watch on TV?
"Sports."
...do you play any video games?
"I like sports games."
What music do you listen to?
"i like rap music."

Kid was dumb as a fucking rock, too. I'm glad he drowned. (and I don't care what people say, I had NOTHING to do with it)
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Well... /r9k/ would you like a different view on the matter?

In many ways, I'm similar to the typical robot. Few friends, issues with escapism, issues with anger that affect my social standing with people, fear of rejection that results in me looking stupid/awkward, etc.

But I remembered a time as a kid where I had many friends and their numbers, etc. Even played games at their place a few times. But things changed. I had that fear of rejection and that anger issue. That made it harder to interact with people.

And after a point, I gave up on many things because it seemed hopeless. So I became bitter. At my worst I was just using the Internet all day, only stopping to go to college, being a complete weirdo and disconnected from my friends and family an being mean to people who got on my nerves. I even have conversations with people I know in my head when lonely enough.

But then I made the discovery of a lifetime;
I cannot be alone for a long span of time without getting depressed. I get energy from others. I understand that by nature I'm an extrovert, trying to be something I'm not.

And I think that is where most of the problems are coming from. I think most robots are actually really extroverted people with fears/shyness.
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r9k considers me a normalfag.

I spend all of my day playing tf2, watching tv shows on the internet and sometimes going outside for a read/jog.

The summer months are lonely...
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>>3074516

You have no idea how bad it can get. Buckle up, kiddo.
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>>3074258

itt no one addresses this and we get to have endless warring between upper-class nothings and lower-class nothings
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>>3074449
While all people do experience sadness and rejection, the severity of it varies from person to person. Not that many people will experience the kind of depression and isolation that a lot of robots feel. The problem I have with some people is that after they've struggled with (usually minor) depression and recovered, they start thinking everyone must be able to do it as easily as them. That's not the case at all.
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>>3074449

Yes, but not to the same degree.

It's reasonable to say that all people have felt depressed or rejected at some point in their lives. But clearly some must feel more depressed and isolated than others.
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>>3074670
>kiddo
This sort of trolling has always been moronic
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>>3074772
yes, "Son" is more endearing
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>>3074488

OP here. I honestly feel like the opposite is happening (at least, in my experience). I find myself unable to understand what drives someone to be "normal" or what kind of activities "normal" people engage in. This sentiment is echoed by many others on /r9k/. Furthermore, I think that because the average person fails to differentiate themselves, they become inconsequential - instead of being an individual, instead they become a part of an amorphous mass of virtually identical people. Thus, they don't matter as much as many "losers" do.

>>3074502
>intelligent normalfags

This is oxymoron. Logically, normalfags are of average intelligence. That's what makes them "normal".
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i would consider myself a normalfag:
>got many friends
>go to parties/chilling with friends every other day
>/fit/
>able to talk to females

what i do:
>playing games
>browsing youtube/4chan and some other sites
>watching movies/tv-shows
>going to the gym
>doing stuff with friends

few other things:
>no, i don't laugh at shut-in threads, i find them boring/sad
>yes i spill my spaghetti from time to time as every person does, but probably not as much as some on here do
>i used to be a social-retard, but developed confidence by going to the gym and managed to get an active social-life
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as far as I know normalfags spend a majority of their time shitting up /r9k/
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>>3074258

Well, I can't really compare myself to any of those people, but recently I spent several days trying to design an organism that could survive in the vacuum of space, I'm currently involved in an effort to found a town inspired by 4chan and I would probably be flattered if I discovered someone was stalking me.

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