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http://www.chinasmack.com/videos/shoe-thrown-at-wen-jiabao-at-cambridge-university-chinese-reactions
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This made me lol. The usual CHINA WILL GROW LARGER, fuck your freedoms, etc.

putin would have torn the man limb from limb

or at least the russian press would have reported as much

>>3023762
It took them a day to actually issue a formal protest though.

Because they are paid to blog pro china.

You can pick your nose.
You can pick your presidents.
But you can't pick your commies.

I suggest an assasination, to remove the baby from bawfice.

There are few things Bush has done right, but his reaction when that sandnigger threw a shoe at him was perfect. He was grinning at him like "HAHA YOU MISSED"

>>3023784
Yeah, Bush was kind of cool afterwards when he joked about it.

Because they're butthurt Chinks who want everyone to worship the ground they walk on. Thankfully, we can see them for the faggots they truly are.

Wen Jiabao is actually well-liked unlike Bush, that's the difference.
Wen's still a faggot for getting all butthurt about it, though.

>>3023803
>Wen Jiabao is actually well-liked

Enjoy your money from the Chinese government.

Chinese consider feet/shoes a taboo subject. For example, putting shoes on a table is considered rude and unlucky. Different cultures have different views, its just a matter of how much you respect it

>>3023826
But wait, aren't the Chinese all into foot-binding and shit? I thought they had a sort of collective mass foot fetish.

>>3023841
If they liked feet, why would they have spent centuries trying to minimize footsize :3

>>3023826
He should of thrown a dripping, rotting dog's dick at the premier just to see if they would fry it up and thank him.

>>3023862

You blew my mind, good anon.

But really, is there any culture you can think of where throwing a shoe at someone is actually a positive gesture? Even Sir Bush felt it was necessary to dodge the incoming footwear, so it would seem that he too had a fetish for not getting hit in the face with shoes.

>>3023763
Oh god, the comments at the bottom.

My sides hurt.

>>3023755

Note that the Chinese media laughed and laughed when Bush got shoes thrown at him. They accused the few Americans who were upset of overreacting.

Now that it's happened to them, the Chinese media is practically screaming for war.

>>3023755

Jews baw because they deal with rocket attacks and terror attacks every single day.
Chinese baw because someone tossed a shoe at their dictator.
Really equivalent.

>>3024129
I find the comments deeply troubling. I hope they're the equivalent of "LOLOL xD LOVE LIVE AMERICA"

... but I'm really not so sure anymore.

>>3024129
>Grandpa Wen always looks so kind~~!!! China jia you!!!

>>3024320
that's the equivalent of "Grandpa Obama" for clarification

>>3024354
Damn, you beat me to the chase. But yeah, the Chinese have nothing on the US as regards the whole worshipping their leaders thing now.

Why do the chinese get so fucking butthurt over this? If you hate Tibet so much then cut that shit away. Its not like any of them like going there. All they do is talk shit about it and say how stupid and ugly they are.

>>3023790
I think bush would be a cool guy when he didn't control the entire country. Like someone you could shit around with at a bar but leave him in the ditch you found him in later.

>>3023817
He's right, the Chinese do like Wen. He got very overtly involved in the disaster-relief effort when that earthquake hit China a while back. It was a better response than New Orleans got after Katrina, for sure.

Of course, if you want to be cynical (or perhaps realistic), he could well have just been posing for the cameras - but none the less, he is genuinely popular.

>>3024268
Who cares about the jews anyway? They aren't human.

Because the Chinese are deluded. They know that their country is fucked up with communism and censorship but too proud to admit it.

Communist societies are such a sad reminder of the 20th century. Everyone scrambling to show their unexceptionality and willingness to be the government's cronies.

>>3024467
The combination of nationalism and confucionism really infuriates me: there's always some party stooge somewhere with a big grin on his face swearing up and down that shit tastes like chocolate (socialism), and that eating shit brings greater harmony to the world (confucionism).

Wait, do people here still think that China is communist? Oh lawd.

>>3024634
It has a planned economy, barriers in place to protect its massive state-owned industry from foreign competition. It has a ruling Communist Party. What would you call it?

Personally, I think its official designation "socialism with Chinese characteristics" is pretty accurate.

>>3024634
Yes, it's still communist

>>3024669
>>3024701
critical definition failure

HOLY SHIT PEOPLE ARE INSULTED WHEN THEIR REPRESENTATIVES ABROAD ARE DISRESPECTED?

GREAT PENIS ABOVE, WHAT A SCOOP!

>>3024716
The main cause of concern is that most Chinese will never, ever understand why that protester disrespected "Grandfather Wen".

>>3024634
>>3024710
"Not a true Scotsman" fallacy approaching.

>>3024834
Failure at understanding logical fallacies approaching.

>>3024634
You're probably one of those guys who claims that there are no real Christians, and that communism was never implemented in practice.

Chinese authoritarianism is still very much surrounded by communist iconography, and that's sufficient to call the country communist, since this label doesn't denote the actual economic system, but rather a related set of governmental practices that have been recognized as communist over the years. The chauvinist responses that this incident inspired (and were orchestrated from the top) are very much communist fare - believe me, I come from the former eastern bloc.

>>3024830
Are you suggesting the real reason was not attention-whorishness and general student "my way or the highway" snobbery? Or is Wen as a person responsible for every single thing China has done wrong while getting no credit for anything she has done right?

>>3025018
Wen Jiabao has been personally baawing about this like a fag.

Oh god, i laughed so much at the irony of it.

>Throw a show
>Bad character

>>3025036
Wut? The only official thing I've heard from Wen is that basically the shoe-thrower was a dick but it wouldn't affect UK-China relations. Which is a true statement.

>>3025018
I think the point was that uni is no place for common propaganda. Of course this isn't true, as many more liberal and indirect forms of propaganda are heard on campuses daily.

>>3025072
I also love the Germfag's logic. "He's a dictator who doesn't let people speak their minds! I will try to stop him from speaking his mind!". Not that I'd expect a Teuton to understand complex things like diplomacy. Or aim.

>>3025018
Are you shitting me? Let's pretend that we're talking about the Bush shoe-throwing, and see if your statement still makes sense to you:
>Are you suggesting the real reason was not attention-whorishness and general journalist "my way or the highway" snobbery? Or is Bush as a person responsible for every single thing American has done wrong while getting no credit for anything she has done right?
Yes, yes I am suggesting that the student was right on many accounts, and that Wen has done great ill to China by participating and working for the authoritarian regime.

>>3025072
>Of course this isn't true, as many more liberal and indirect forms of propaganda are heard on campuses daily.
Bullllllshit. This is utter crap spouted off by talk show hosts in order to feel better about dropping out.

>>3025086
1. Freedom of speech protects individuals from the government, not individuals from individuals.
2. The germfag meant to miss, and wasn't trying to silence anybody, but instead get the opportunity to make his own statement.

>>3025127
OK? No point debating this. You think throwing things is an appropriate reaction to people whose policies you do not like. I think that the situation is much more complicated than that, and that change will only come with full participation from all parties, east and west. Wen is seen as a very popular figure in China. He is seen as often a representative of the people, unlike many of the higher-ups of the CPC. He spoke to the students at Tienanmen instead of just ordering tanks and guns to the square. Thus an insult directed at him is perceived as insult directed to the Chinese people themselves by many. So really, the German was insulting the very people he so arrogantly wants to "protect" from Wen. But you are a collegefag who feels comfortable using 20 years of experience deciding the fate of 1.3 billion people, so I did not expect that much.

>>3025146
I don't care, he's a commie and a Chink.

>>3025146
>insult directed to the Chinese people themselves
Oh baaw the fuck moar, if Bush can laugh it off the Chinks should too. I know Bush is less popular, but to be honest, if someone threw a shoe at Obama and the libfags got too butthurt, I'd facepalm as well.

>>3025160
Right. I agree that getting butthurt is pointless. But that doesn't mean you can't understand that people are going to do it. And that it's a worldwide phenomenon (as I'm sure there would many hurt butts if Obama had a shoe thrown at him), so it shouldn't just labeled under DER BUTTHURT COMMUCHINKS


uh oh guys I think ISM can hear a thread about China I hope this doesn't wake him from his crusty slumber

>>3025172
Obamatards are actually a lot like Chinks.

>>3025146

I can testify to that. I went to Beijing this winter with my Chinese girlfriend to visit her family, and it pretty much dispelled any standing belief that the people felt as if they were being oppressed. Their society is more oriented on unity as a mass rather than of how individuals stand out. So when you approach it that way, it makes sense to see why their authoritarian government is popular to them. What we're doing in the west is looking at them through the lens of our society, and there's a stark contrast that people are oblivious to. Hence the self assured protestfags. Not that the Chinese don't do it either, because they totally do.

>>3025146
>is perceived as insult directed to the Chinese people themselves by many

This is stupid, this is stupid, this is stupid, this is stupid.

It's this whole dumb nationalism and cultural pride thing. If an insult or incident has nothing to do with you, you shouldn't feel "insulted" or "offended" by it, and even then, if the person is an ideological opponent it's to be expected. You don't believe what they're saying? You dismiss it.

Collective pride is the dumbest thing ever, full stop.

>You think throwing things is an appropriate reaction to people whose policies you do not like

Protest and provocation are always valuable. Problems do not get solved by smoothing over differences; you look through history and there is not a single issue of justice that was solved by people being quiet and passive and accommodating. Usually it actually happened through war, but fortunately that's often not the case any more. Other forms of conflict are usually more effective now.

But conflict itself remains, and anything to provoke it is good, especially when it consists of bringing down sacred cows and politicians to size.

No harm came of this, did it, so what's your problem?

>he so arrogantly wants to "protect" from Wen

Can you mount any moral defense of the policies of the Chinese oligarchy? It doesn't matter how much they've been led and manipulated into buying the Party bullshit, they oughtn't to be treated this way.

Also, your general reformism can go fuck itself in hell.

(Differentfag than you're responding to here.)

It isn't pride, it's fear and self-loathing. Of course they know they aren't being given the chance to live like human beings, but the only way to avoid being sent to labour camp there is cheering for Hitler. To say that the Chinese possess a distinct identity which makes them crave authoritarian leadership is ridiculous in itself.

>>3025226
throwing a shoe isnt a form of protest... it just makes you seem like a douchebag. if he had started making a fuss by shouting serious questions then he woulda been more in the right.

also stop with the protest bullshit. even in a democratic society protestfags accomplish very little relative to the effort they expend. its always more effective to change something from within. of course the current chinese oligarchy seems like shit next to the average western democracy, but you cant compare them like that. you compare it to what it was a decade ago, two decades ago, etc etc. change doesnt happen overnight in real like, especially in a nation of over a billion people. the generation of chinese that grew up during china's initial forays into reform are now the generation in power, and they are making progress.

>>3025260

Well, they HAVE had thousands of years of authoritarian figures. Like the emperors.

So, they won't say anymore that french are nazis, it's the whole Europe now.

Hahahahaha. Faggots.

Chink government has always been corrupt and authoritarian. They're smarter than whitefags, but for some reason, the whole government thing is something they've never got a handle on.

They need Western imperialism IMHO. They were by themselves for hundreds and hundreds of years, and their society stayed shitty and totalitarian and their most innovative and free-thinking people escaped elsewhere. We need to break them out of their cycle by taking over their society and remaking it in our image. I mean they obviously don't like it, or else they wouldn't be so desperate to escape to our countries.

>>3025341
>shitty and totalitarian

only totalitarian is right. shitty was dependent on the era but for centuries china was generally a better place to live than europe.

>>3025260
you don't know anything about confucianism do you

>>3025362
You don't know how to use commas and question marks, do you?

>>3025368
hurr durrr, a hurrdurr HERP DERP

>>3025368
>commas

lolwut

mootisfaggitblock

>>3025381
Hurr durr, to you, too.

>>3025382
I've got something for you, you uneducated American!
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>>3025390
I think I prefer our version's lack of overly choppy sentances.

>>3025402
>sentances
Hmm, OK, but maybe you should sort your spelling out too, you uneducated American.
Take a look - http://www.dictionary.com

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>>3025284
>throwing a shoe isnt a form of protest... it just makes you seem like a douchebag. if he had started making a fuss by shouting serious questions then he woulda been more in the right.

I agree that would've been much, much better, but a shoe is better than nothing.

>also stop with the protest bullshit. even in a democratic society protestfags accomplish very little relative to the effort they expend

Don't confuse a bunch of grandmothers standing on a street yelling about DA WAR and being ignored with what I'm talking about: forcing the people in power to stop putting off dealing with issues by forcing an ideological confrontation. The Chinese themselves did it in 1989. The oligarchy won provisionally by invading the square, but in the process they exposed themselves as the tyrants, in a literal sense, I'm not meaning this solely as a pejorative, they are. It was like 1954 or 1968 in Hungary and Czechoslovakia, respectively. The dissidents continued to provoke shit, and ultimately exposed the regimes there for the sick farces they were. China will be no different.

>>3025413
lol fuck you I'm and engineering major. Nothing over a paragraph I've written in over 3 years has been off a computer without a spellcheck.

>>3025341
Many of China's problems are the result of Eurofag imperialism. BROTIP: benevolent imperialism is a myth.

The best part about using communism to defeat imperialists isn't liberating the country from foreign powers, it's showing everyone on the world stage that I am. I love uppity collegefags thinking they are making a difference it is so adorable ;3

Do people really not understand that western style democracy is never ever ever coming to China and bawwwing about it will not fix anything? Silly humanist value on individual life.

>>3025436
Funny that Hong Kong, Taiwan and Macao are the richest parts of China.

Makes you think that putting China in more responsible hands would be a good idea.

>>3025431
Fuck you, too, pig disgusting engineer.

>>3025341

i would argue that the opposite is true. western politicians, the self selecting group of authoritarian wannabes that they are, would give their collective left nut to exercise the type of power that the chinese communist party weilds. they already have to grease their way up their respective party apparatus and would not be in politics if they didn't desire to bend the world around them to their will. if they had the opportunity to dispense with the ritual humiliation of the hustings and the ballot box, they do it tomorrow.

only party competition and the fear of the response from the other institutions of state, not to mention the mob, stops this from happening, at least overnight. thank's to the drip-drip-drip erosion of our civil liberties, we'll probably be living in a very similar society to the chinese as they are now within a generation.

>>3025478
Not really, there will be a revolt, the current elite will be replaced by governments that are xenophobic and protectionist but less elitist and authoritarian than our current leaders.

Fucking mutes on original content need to stop.
>>3025430
Protest is actually more effective in authoritarian states than anywhere else; democratic leaders are legitimized by election, even when they're just as ridiculous as dictators, and democratic political cultures, no matter how ossified, tend to be more self-consistent and with more stable mental power structures (usually, they don't need to use guns, in other words), whereas most hardcore totalitarian leaders are past giving a fuck about international opinion and will usually just shoot any dissidents right away. Basically democracies marginalize radicals, the hardcore totalitarian states just shoot them. States falling somewhere inbetween- from post-Stalinist USSR and satellite states to the South African apartheid regime- can't do either of those, at least not as fast or as easily.

Where foreign protest fits into this I'm not exactly sure, but it can't hurt.

>change doesnt happen overnight in real like

Not often, but it does, and it should. Not literally overnight, of course, but there's no reason why China today couldn't lift all restrictions on free expression and so on and begin laying plans for free elections sometime in the next few years.

>>3025475
Right. They are rich because of a vast influx of wealth that came with foreign control. Much of that wealth was taken through various means from the rest of China. So it's like if I robbed all the apartments in my building of their furniture and then said "But hey, look how nice my room is! My higher standard of living justifies my methods."


Besides, Maco isn't anything special, Taiwan only got rich long after foreign control was gone, and Hong Kong's wealth was not entirely a result of British policy.

>>3025501
Apartheid was a unique case, it was essentially the equivalent of a racially-defined republican European republic exerting power over a black country.

>>3025513
Macao is very special, even now the average standard of living there is higher than Shanghai.

>>3025501
>Not often, but it does, and it should. Not literally overnight, of course, but there's no reason why China today couldn't lift all restrictions on free expression and so on and begin laying plans for free elections sometime in the next few years.

Do you study history at all, or do you just enjoy making up absurd scenarios? China has had a revolution like that before. Elections were held. Do you know what happened? The semi-legitimate president was assassinated, and the country plunged into the bloodiest century it had ever seen. Congrats bro, your suggestion just killed 100 million people. But oh wait, it's all done so that the GLORIOUS WESTERN VALUES OF HUMANISM AND DEMOCRACY can shine shine shine forever, so it's all justified. Seriously, fuck you.

>>3025462

>bawww

That's all I've heard.

>>3025513
But it's not actually as though wealth was actually carted away from the rest of China and concentrated in the foreign enclaves. It's rather that the enclaves pursued pro-business policies, allowed free speech (in Taiwan that was admittedly rather relative) and made their areas attractive for high-wealth and educated individuals. If you want to go ahead and keep making excuses for the failure of Chink society to make itself attractive, go ahead. But the figures don't lie, China's brightest and best prefer not being ruled by their central government.

>>3025430
If you read more about the Tiananmen Square shitstorm you realize that there is more than one side to the Communist party there. The hardliners are the ones that ordered the troops in when the ones that sympathized with the students couldn't solve the problem in a "reasonable" amount of time. Those hardliners were also mostly older generation types that by now are dieing off. The effects of that protest ARE being seen, they're just slowly trickling through the corrupt bureaucracy that is the main problem with China today.

>>3025539

Yes it fucking was. The Opium Wars and the policies resulting from them caused money to flow to the cities that Europeans invaded, establishing centers of trade that were phenomenally wealthy at the expense of the rest of China. The more liberal laws came after the money, not the other way around.


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