Filesharing is going to be dead soon now that they are cracking down.

thanks for the warning MPAA drone!

how does the DMCA warning process work, anyway? you get a letter from you ISP??

lol@america

I think it's really stupid NBC charges .99 cents for their shows on demand when it's completely free to watch on their website or on hulu

and for that i encourage people to torrent their shows

I don't have a Neilsen box so why would they care how I watch their shows?

the real question is, why would anyone want to watch nbc/universal content?
real life example: i've only known faggots to download bsg and then whine when they get dmca'd

i got a DMCA for torrenting XIII

>>2937953
Even if you are trolling there are people out there right now that believe what you just said so I'll respond

Why is it retarded to sell a product? Just because you can stream it doesn't mean you shouldn't buy it.

I can watch all the free television I want by spending my day hanging out in a waiting lounge at a hotel or a hospital, it doesn't mean I shouldn't buy a television.

it's the price you pay for convenience man. 99 cents shouldn't break the bank.

>>2937980
Exactly. This is a show that already aired for fuck's sake, that's how it was capped, when it was aired FOR FREE the first time. I guess they claim they lose out on DVD sales? Either way, it's retarded and I hope they all get AIDS. Especially Mark Ishikawa @ (818) 777-4876

I hope they have fun sending a DMCA to me. Because it's my personal goal to download everything they make now.

I don't have a Neilsen box so why would they care how I watch their shows?

arent all cable boxes sorta acting like neilson boxes these days? but apparently DVR fucks up their numbers, which is funny because I DVR 80% of the shit I watch so I can fast forward thru their bullshit commercials.

they air these shows for free

why the fuck does it matter if someone downloads?

just because someone downloads does not mean they were buying DVDs

anyways, if you guys are still using torrent then stop

there are safer and better ways to download tv shows along with all other media

>>2938061
thats not possible

You do not understand how cable works

>>2938061

Just wait until they make it so you are restricted and can't fast forward past these parts, just like those obnoxious on screen warnings they put on DVDs that they prohibit you from skipping. Those alone are enough reason to rip or download a copy. The pirates don't have to put up with that shit like us idiots that pay for it. :(

>>2938074
such as?

I guess 'John Kennedy' has never heard of a little thing called THE RADIO before...

"""One of the most difficult tasks for companies that sell copyrighted music, movies, or computer software is estimating how much money they lose due to piracy. So they have been known to--how to put this delicately?--exaggerate.

That's the topic that The Pirate Bay trial in Stockholm explored on Wednesday when John Kennedy, the chief executive of the International Federation of Phonographic Industries, testified that every MP3 file that is swapped online represents a lost sale. The IFPI is the Recording Industry Association of America's international affiliate.

Kennedy answered "Yes" to Pirate Bay defense attorneys when asked whether that was true, to peals of laughter from less-than-sympathetic spectators, according to news reports.

Pirate Bay attorney Jonas Nilsson pressed him on whether or not the group had done an analysis of copyright infringement and lost revenue for specific songs (it hadn't). """

lol these fuckers are getting their asses handed to em... for such a huge trial you'd think they would have at least learned the technology and proper terminologies first, they've already dropped over half the charges due to their own ignorance.

but what if im canadian

Usenet: Making piracy simple and anonymous since 1979.

Thank god I live in the third world, where piracy is practically mandatory.

>>2938078
Which part, then clue us all in. Because I've definitely heard them admit the numbers get thrown off by DVR'ing... and I've never known a single person to ever have, or know anyone who had, a fucking Neilson box, so how do they come up with their arbitrary numbers then??

>>2937924

Alabama?

Lately. for mainstream stuff, I avoid torrents. I stick to more direct peer to peer sharing, like Direct Connect ++. Also rapidshits and others for albums.

>>2938140
they make them up

protip: Advertising doesn't work and ratings are a shell game.

>>2938181
exactly. which has been known to kill some pretty good shows prematurely, unfortunately. none (or perhaps not enough *cough*DOLLHOUSE*cough*) lately, but it happens.

>>2938164

WUT R GOOD HUB?? LIONHUB JUST HAS ANIME AND PRON

>>2938140
>>2938140
I had a friend that had a Neilson box and basically each family member had a button and if they were watching at the time they press yes. Each yes represented roughly 10000 or something. But they never did it so Neilson took it away, and when they did use it, they were fucking around anyway, so it wasn't a true measure.

>>2938164
I had a friend get redirected away from RS to a Time Warner warning page last week.

>>2938218
just when they think they're catching up, we'll invent something else.

>>2938013
Except they are foregoing convenience to try and force the market to adhere to their outdated system.

I don't like having to sit through 5 minutes of show and 10 minutes of commercials. I want to watch something when I want to see it, as many times as I want, in high quality with minimal commercials. If the only way I can do that is to torrent it, then so be it.

>>2938273
You misunderstand. You achieve the convenience upon buying the program. You can watch it whenever you want and not have to deal with the commercials that you'd see if you were watching on television or on Hulu

if they would release DVDs sooner they might solve some problems.

>>2938340
Thank You, NBC-Universal representative. Now GTFO.

If you can watch it on hulu, spare yourself the trouble. Unless of course, you are impatient.

>>2938356
Look, I'm not trying to convince you to start buying television shows. I rarely if ever buy episodes when I can watch it for free elsewhere.

I just ask that you don't use bullshit rationale and accept the fact that you can't justify piracy, the same way you can't really justify NEEDING to watch a show. You just want to.

>>2938383
Haha o wow, it's true - they really do troll our boards.

>>2938398

>>2938383

Need to do it to stay alive. True story.

>>2938383
And what if you miss one of the shows? Not everybody sits at home every single night watching television... not ALL of their shows are available on NBC.com nor Hulu. And it's not like they'll put the DVD out until a fucking YEAR LATER or something. So it would make sense that you'd just download the one you missed... ESPECIALLY if you live in another country. But no, do carry on with your trolling, devil's advocate, argument for argument sake and just all around general faggotry. I bet you were the king of debate club weren't ya sport?!

>>2938432
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSRS BIZNESSSS

The first show my bf's bro in PR tried to DL he got a warning on. I was like "lol damn."

how the hell do they manage to track down people so fast and easily?

>>2938371
too bad Hulu is "not available" in my area, not everyone lives in the states, it takes over a year for shit to come out on DVD, Anyway I do it for the troops, torrent everything and send it downrange, THAT's supporting the troops, not some stupid faggot ribbon magnet.

>>2938471
Then maybe you should move off of Fire Island

lol, torrents.

>>2938469
Torrents.

>>2938509

There is no such thing as secure torrents and with torrents they can easily know everyone's addresses?

I've gotten letters from these guys before, just don't UPLOAD the video, thats when they will send you a letter. Just take the office episode or whatever your downloading out of your folder so people can't upload it and no problems. Not that they will follow through on a lawsuit just because you get a letter though.

the thing is, plenty of people can easily just change their ip address, but the ISP knows all of em and will still send the letters to your house. that's one of the "bad" things about all these companies continuing to "lose" all these trials, they just focus more and more on ISP's and the individual user : /

but we'll adapt, overcome and move on... we always do : D

>>2938454

well thanks for that, we always appreciate your input

>>2938543
yep, friendly ratio's aren't 'so friendly after all. leech like a motherfucker if you live in '1984 BigBrother-Land'

>>2938486
Timeshare on Fire Island?

>>2938531
Correct on both counts.

Get on private trackers dudes! :)

do you guys know how much money it costs to produce an episode of a show?

That's why they have commercials, to recover the cost of producing it and hoping that they will earn money.

I was doing onset work and post work on tv show for amizon, not sure if they aired it or what. But it ended up costing roughly 70,000 for one episode. and thats cheep. We had roughly 15 guys on set, where Don Was interviewed musicians for about an hour or two. nothing special, no special effects. It's the equipment that costs so much, you need 3-4 cameras rolling at the same time, then you have to pay some one to digitize it, then you have to pay some one to edit it. It's alot of work.

Also for my bloody valentine comercials where they filmed a real audience watching the show they had to bring in the fire marshalls for the flames / explosives they wanted to do. then they had alot of post work, ended up costing 250k just to shoot footage to be used for the trailer / tv spots. then you have to pay the trailer company to edit and make it look nice.

so that would be why you have lots of commercials, and thats why they get mad at you for d/l the shows.

now i just d/l the latest episode of bsg because i couldnt see it, and they didn't upload it on their website. So i mean i understand, but being all like FUK THEM, I AIN PAYING SHIT, just makes it so they produce shittier shows. i mean if they arent getting add revenue why spend 1 mil+ an episode, its not worth it.

stop acting like dicks

>>2938608
No U

>>2938608
So you were like that guy in the movie fluff pieces about the real people who work on sets. Only that set painter was likeable and you are a blubbering fagatron.

>>2938608

lol God forbid someone wants to catch up in a series at any given point in time. Also I'll go ahead and venture to say that most people who DL shows probably get the DVD sets but just don't have the patience to wait a whole 1-2 years for a dvd menu.

>>2938607
lol doesn't help, your isp can see p2p traffic and will hand over your info in a heartbeat.
If you're not encrypted you're not safe.

>>2938608

Time for them to change their outdated business model.

>>2937924
Who downloads this shit anymore? Seriously?

Just use Hulu.

>>2938646
Encryption doesn't help either

>>2938662
faggot ass hulu doesn't work in canada

>>2938695
And your faggot ass can't use proxies?

>>2938608
Pay the actors less then. 95% of them are only acting because of nepotism, rather than any kind of actual talent anyways. Acting isn't hard.

>>2938727

you must know some fast proxies

>>2938741
1) Login
2) Load video
3) Pause and let buffer
4) Enjoy, you impatient ADD-riddled fuck

Honestly? Every cable service should offer what comcast does. On Demand is great for catching up on shows.

>Acting isn't hard.

>>2938727

Proxies with streaming media. Enjoy your slideshow.

Ok broskis, how do we "pirate" now since the waters are unsafe....?

>>2938644

do you not read? i wasn't saying that you shouldn't torrent ect. i torrent, but i was asking that you guys drop the shit ratonale of i want everything for free and it's not wrong. Yes, you are not causing a loss of sales, but you are lowering the potential revenue generated by producing a show.

Instead of watching T.V. you torrent the episodes while it is airing, the show gets lower ratings, the show generates less ad revenue because why would companies want to pay lots of money for spots that air durring a show that no one watches.

Just understand by torrenting you are causing them a loss of potential revenue. It's not the same as stealing, there is no phsyical loss.

>>2938638
Never seen that, i have no idea what your talking about. I am a student, i dont make my living working on set. I have some friends that give me calls from time to time to work on set with them. I do freelance graphic design work.

>>2938773
See >>2938754

>>2938774
usenet

hulu.com

if you are in canada, fuck you, you're in canada, it's better there, and the air is cleaner and you have space.

also torrenting is super gay, I only rapidshare, I wonder if rapidshare will end up giving my isp to someone, ive downloaded over 160 gigs of music, but most of it is out of print albums, although now im getting into jazz and downloading a lot of flac stuff..but this is all from music blogs, which would have been taken down if they violeted soemthing...but..i dunno.

>>2938782

As I don't have a Neilson box it doesn't matter if I watch the ads or not. It doesn't matter if I download it or not. Your point is invalid.

>>2938808
Thanks

Most basic cable shows suck ass anyway.

>>2938782
protip: they've already been paid for the commercials. only about .001% of their audience torrents. fuck you, what you don't want to hear, your previous jobs and your morals.

>>2938762
it isn't HD tho. I'd rather watch an HD.mkv rip than a SD picture on my 40" HD TV. Hell, I don't even bother watching Supernatural on the tele anymore because this podunk little town i moved to last year for work doesn't even have CW-HD, so I download every single one of those, nice crisp quality, commercial free.

>>2938739

its not the cost of actors that makes the shows budget so high, its the equipment. Sure they get paid a lot to act, but it costs alot to light and film. Along with paying money to film places, want to film a restaurants scene? you have to pay the restaurants shit ton of money, like how much they would make that day + some extra. Then you have to pay the post guys, who have to have a fiber line or two, lots of servers to store all the raw footage. high def i think is 60 mb per frame uncompressed. tv shows run at 30 fps, then you have news casts that runs at around 60 fps. Then again for each show you have 3-4 cameras rolling. Its a lot of space, and a lot of equipment. Then you have either have final cut, or pay a shit ton for an avid system. It's about 10k a year for an avid license. you have 4-5 editing machines running, thats like 50k just for editing software a year. Thats why so many places are switching over to macs for final cut.

>>2938820 if rapidshare will end up giving my isp to someone

facepalm.jpg

it doesnt matter... soon we are all going to be paying by the channel and then there wont be advertising anymore

>>2938900
and the stations pay for ALL of that, then get paid for advertisements AND dvd sales on top of that, turning a profit in the end. SO QUIT YER BITCHING FAGGOT.

>>2938947
They've been talking about that for years, it'll never happen.

>>2938947
Incorrect sir. As long as there are channels the distribution companies (your cable/satellite providers) will bundle them together to ensure *someone* is getting all those less popular channels.

>>2938900

You haven't addressed this point yet >>2938823

swefag here....


...LOL!

Anyone have that cartoon that was on the frontpage of piratebay last week?

TORRANTS IS AMATEUR

ME AND TORRENT IS DONE PROFESSIONALLY

>>2938142
...What exactly do you mean by Alabama?

>>2938900
>Budget: $7,000 Gross revenue: $424,760


Heh, what?

>>2938900
china called they want their great wall back

>>2938383
>>I just ask that you don't use bullshit rationale and accept the fact that you can't justify piracy

I agree with this guy. I pirate everything I watch, I don't even have cable. but it's not like I pretend what I'm doing isn't wrong. The only reason I'm able to do what I do is because other people are paying for or watching commercials for the same things I'm getting for free. I'm an ass for it but whatever.

>>2939057
What's a good way to get started with Usenet?

>>2939216
usenet is bullshit LOL PAYING FOR TORRENTS.

>>2939291
PROTIP: there are providers with free test accounts
you just make a new fake account all 3 days, there are tools which do this for you

>>2939291
Well I currently pay for a rapdishare account because it's much faster than torrenting and more convenient. If usenet offers something similar I might check it out. I've never quite understood how to use it though.

>>2939341
I have a rapidshit acct too which just proves how lazy i am... i'd rather just hit up TPB or EZTV and torrent than search for new DDL links : /

>>2939340 link?

and excluding the news, i only watch 3 channels a week witih basic cable

What are some good sites with DDL (RS.com) links too, por favor

>>2939719 good sites with DDL
IceDDL has a decent search

huh