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    53 KB Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:09:34 No.2933010  
    So, /r9k/

    Why do people join gangs? Why would someone throw their lives away on this petty shit, these guys will kill you over your iPod or whatever without thinking twice. Their lives are obviously going to be short because its inevitable that they'll be killed by the cops or rival gang members or in prison or whatever.

    So what is it, poverty? Why would someone who is poor immediately get involved with shit like this and not try to legitimately work their way up? Could it be needing a sense of belonging or whatever? Is it simple stupidity? I simply cannot grasp the mindset. What do you rowboats think?

    Also, in b4 NIGGERS
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:12:53 No.2933046
    We are raised on different ideaologies, not everyone is told to be successful and work way up = ultimate goal.

    That's why people are lazy.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:13:12 No.2933052
    because they are niggers.
    More seriusly, because in an area like that, people see the gangsters as relatively well off, and want to emulate them in the absense of other successful role models.
    because it is dangerous not to have some affiliation with the locals.
    because their brother did
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:13:54 No.2933057
    White chicks and gangs signs.
    G-g-g-gang signs.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:15:04 No.2933070
    why do people join the police? or the army?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:16:30 No.2933092
    >>2933046
    In a way I sort of agree.
    We all have some idea what we want to do growing up. Maybe not an ultimate goal, but for me growing up, I knew that I would do a degree, and get a proffesional job. I just couldnt concive of doing manual work say.
    Now I have friends who dont see the attraction of office work, and grew up wanting to work in a factory. Unfortunatley now the factories here are all closed most of them have ended up in call centres and the like.

    In "da projects maan", some kids grow up aspiring to be gangsta. Most dont though, to keep context, otherwise we'd have to wall the places off.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:20:11 No.2933135
    generally, these people have no role models. once they find someone who will make sense of life and "show them the way," it all clicks for them.

    typically, their daddy is gone, in a gang, or died from a rival gang and their mom is a whore or completely out of the cultural loop.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:23:59 No.2933167
    >>2933070

    Are you seriously going to compare joining the police or the army to joining some gang? The former generally aspires to do some good (even if it is misguided) and the latter only tries to advance themselves by fucking people over or earning respect by fucking people over.
    >> banana !7fj3lJn342 01/27/09(Tue)19:27:10 No.2933194
    Basically what you said OP. They want respect, a sense of belonging and they think that these people will 'have their back', almost like a second family. Like other people have said, lack of role models.

    Yes, it is stupid, but you have to look at it from the POV of a kid growing up in some 'ghetto', while his dad is who-knows-where and his mother is out sucking dick to fuel her crack addiction.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:27:27 No.2933196
    >>>So what is it, poverty? Why would someone who is poor immediately get involved with shit like this and not try to legitimately work their way up?

    If someone was rich enough to pay their way through any school and do whatever ever they want in life, would they do it? In most cases, yes.
    Same with poverty. Why do you think get rich quick books sell?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:27:51 No.2933197
    I fail to see the difference. Gang=police=army. All the same. One is just sanctioned. Good is a matter of perspective.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:30:01 No.2933214
    >>2933167

    and all three use forse to impose their will on others. where's the fun in that?

    *MUTEBLOKK*
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:33:17 No.2933237
    *mootblox*

    >>2933167

    what's in your alleyway? recycling bins.... or bullet cases?
    >> Fat House Cat !Pyd2/R7DNA 01/27/09(Tue)19:34:08 No.2933246
    It's a dangerous world outside of our middle class white suburbia, these kids are prime targets for enemy gangs, joining a gang is a means of protection along with many other things that have already been listed. Also OP saying he cannot grasp the mindset is a bit ridiculous, step out of your privlidged box for a moment and think of what it'd be like to have no real father or mother figure, no education, constant strife with other gang members who wouldn't think twice to shoot you if the time called for it. No hope for a future, no money, no way of getting out of their situation, much like a depressed person comes to think that suicide is their only option these kids think that the gang life is their only option.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:37:36 No.2933275
    BECAUSE THE POLICE SUCK THAT'S WHY
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:37:49 No.2933279
    Gangs make it easier for people to get around:

    http://www.jakeandamir.com/post/60888010/question
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:37:56 No.2933280
    >>2933010

    How old are you OP? Because there's a magical time around your 20th birthday when you realize 90% of people are dumber than a retarded lemming.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:39:22 No.2933294
    Uh, you're missing the key ingredient. The missing piece, OP, is:

    BECAUSE OF DRUGS

    And other illegal activities, too. But mostly, because of drugs.

    First of all, if you've been in crap schools all your life and you spel and tak all ghetto, the working world may not be too desirous to you. So, you can work as an auto mechanic or a fast fry cook, legitimately. Yay! Welcome to riding the bus to work every day for the rest of your life, and being looked down on by everybody. OR, you could sell drugs, and have a nice car, have rims (not a big deal) for the purpose of attracting not one but multiple girlfriends (a fairly big deal), etc.

    Why join a gang for that? Because large amounts of money are changing hands in this business, large amounts of money attract predators, so somebody has to work security. In fact, the sales people usually have to do double-duty as security, too. So, the guns. Also, in a business like this, you need a hierarchical structure to control the cash efficiently and make decisions, so its gangs part II. The clothes and signs and whatnot are just the frills, the real point is making money in an organized manner. Look up Venkatash, a Chicago sociologist, and his recent published book Gang Leader for a Day.

    There's your explanation.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:40:53 No.2933314
    Gangs reflect a distorted version of the American dream, the rags to riches tale. A man becoming rich through running a business or becoming qualified contains the same ingredients as a gangsta rising up the hierarchy. The difference is real life is legitimate and doesn't contain senseless violence, drugs, etc.
    >Good is a matter of perspective.
    No it isn't. Only a retard would apply moral relativism to such basic foundations of society as law and military force.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:42:11 No.2933330
    holy fucking shit the blood gang sign is cool as hell man i'm joining bloodz tomorrow
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:42:30 No.2933334
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    Because they're so destitute they feel that they have no other option in life. On top of that, everybody wants to be part of something bigger than themselves, it gives them a feeling of safety and belonging. Even though I can see how social pressures can push them to be criminals and can't sympathize with them at all.

    Also, i'm reading this, it's pissed off Navy Seal vs. pimps and drug dealers, halfway though, shit's pretty satisfying.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:44:18 No.2933356
    Group favoritism and all that shit. When people join armies, police forces, the government, or do anything with anyone else in large scale cooperation we are essentially doing the same shit gangs do
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:46:00 No.2933369
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    AW SHIEET
    GUESS WHO STEPPED INTO DA HOOD
    /b/ WUZ HERE
    >> OP !SpEedzSd6o 01/27/09(Tue)19:48:58 No.2933394
    >>2933369


    lol well played anon


    mtblock
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:49:11 No.2933396
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    blog gang sign > all
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:50:38 No.2933416
    >>2933314
    Oh so moral relativism applied to foundations of society huh? I am sure the founding fathers intended the constitution to be extended to slaves too. Right? The weren't using relativism at all huh. I mean after all salves were property and not really people. That's not relative at all is it.

    I am sure there is an absolute good to the conflict between Israel Vs. the Palestinians too. Which one is good again? I forget.

    Everything is relative, even your ideas of moral relativism being not being fit for founding a society.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:52:41 No.2933431
    The reason is, that gang-members get laid. Straight time. Once again it is a social ill that relates to the hormonal stupidity of the female. She sees gang members as "bad-ass", and "sexy" she gets wet at the thought of these animals, because she mistakes their gang membership for social status, and their heartless killing and robbing for bravery. She comes along and fucks gang members, and what do you know? We have more gang members in our society. This is one of the many reasons I am actually considering turning to trannies.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:53:38 No.2933439
    You seriously had to ask this question?

    Joining a gang could provide you with protection and safety in certain areas. Also some act as families.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)19:56:53 No.2933479
    niggers. so entertaining
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:00:08 No.2933529
    Because teens are fucking stupid these days. I know so many people in gangs and a majority of them pretty much just joined to fit in, feel cool, etc. You go into their house and they live nice, they have a caring family. They fuck up because of their own stupidity.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:00:27 No.2933532
    Why not?
    You get money, protection and a sense of belonging.

    I'm not saying it's the best choice, but it's an appealing one.

    Also, they get to hang around with like people. Shitty neighborhood/poor/parents suck: join a gang.
    Ronery/middle class/PARENTS DONT UNDERSTAND ME BAAAAW:participate in an /r9k/ lonely thread
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:02:50 No.2933568
    Poor black guy here
    I can actually answer questions about gangs. To give you some hints:most of you guys are way off
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:03:11 No.2933578
    >>2933294
    Ha, read some out-takes from that. The leader of the gang he hung out with had a business degree.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:12:39 No.2933702
    >these guys will kill you over your iPod or whatever without thinking twice

    Because if you don't join one, you're liable to be killed over your iPod by any of the gangs. If you're in one, you've got protection and brotherhood with at least one group of people who are at least marginally capable of doing so.

    Or you know, all of you /r9k/ people can go on making stupid, uneducated accusations about them all being dumb ghetto niggers who're just up to no good, like people here seem to be doing for the most part.

    Also, I must say, that Blood hand sign is rather clever.
    >> Gang sign difficulty settings OPs 01/27/09(Tue)20:20:45 No.2933791
    Victory is beginner mode.

    killaz is medium mode.

    B.k blood killa is hard mode.

    blood is nightmare mode.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:34:07 No.2933937
    >>2933568

    Okay, now I'm curious. Enlighten us, oh wise blackanon.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:38:33 No.2933994
    man you guys might say Einstein is smart or some shit but it takes a true genius to make the word blood with your fingers

    here's to you California blood gang member
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:40:17 No.2934013
    >>2933937
    Not him, but I'd like to bring up that the discipline that seems to be a favorite to mock around here, sociology, has a lot to offer up in terms of explanations to such phenomena. Consider checking out some articles online if you have access to academic journals via your college or anything like that.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:43:06 No.2934040
    people join gangs for protection from other gangs, to have a sense of identity, belonging, self-importance, and to have the possibility of being able to make attractive amounts of money in what is usually a indigent area

    /thread
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:43:48 No.2934049
    Why do people join gangs?

    For the same reason that you lurk 4chan. Loser.
    >> Larry !/BFmpSG9KA 01/27/09(Tue)20:44:49 No.2934062
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    >>2933396
    What the fuck is that sign supposed to be?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:45:07 No.2934068
    >>2934049

    For porn?

    Bootblocks
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:47:23 No.2934098
    Most gang members live in poverty stricken areas with horrible education systems, oppressive police, and violence around every corner. Many people see gangs as a way to stay safe from other gangs, feel less vulnerable around police, and get ahead in life. Many do not have father figures in their lives and look to gang leaders for inspiration.

    It's very hard for someone who doesn't live in an environment like this to understand. Take 4chan for example, where all the white 16 year old suburbanites love to be racist and shout nigger at every opportunity. "These people are gang members because they are niggers, and niggers suck. If I were in their situation, I'd make something of myself" Give me a break.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:48:26 No.2934114
    >>2933070

    To get the chance to shoot niggers, of course.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:55:07 No.2934192
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    >>2934114

    Oh, hey, Trombley. I didn't know you posted on /r9k/.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)20:57:06 No.2934215
    >>2934062
    >blog_gang_sign.jpg

    Hurr Durr.

    L and O are right next to each other, looks kinda like a second B.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:01:36 No.2934281
    can you suburbanites say 'to be a part of a community, any community, in mr. robinson's neighborhood'? sure you can. i knew you could.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:03:21 No.2934304
    It starts slow, you don't just wake up one day like "I'm going to join a gang!"

    First it's doing drugs, then selling them, then selling a lot of them, then eventually joining a gang to either be protected or for a bigger supply. Other crimes branch out the same way.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:03:35 No.2934306
    Ever wondered why drug barons can easily run their business in jail and never get betrayed? Nowadays they are more like managers who work with people rather than the substances themselves, they often live nowhere near their "turf" and never see the majority of their dealers. All this gangster culture is just a recruiting tool to create a pool of uneducated deluded failures willing to risk their lives to do their work.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:05:23 No.2934328
    >>2933937
    this thread was still around?
    Okay as a black guy who happens to have family in gangs this is what I can tell you:
    1.Gangs are based in racism.
    Most gangs revolve around the same thinking behind nationalism and racial pride. This is why you will NEVER see a multiracial gang.
    2.Gangs and mafias are different
    Mafias have actual wealth and considerable heirachy. Gangs are always poor
    3.Gangs are not as seriously "epic" as they sound
    Being a gang member will never get you sex, popularity, or anything of that sort. It will get you beat the fuck up(like my neighbor recently was)
    4.Gangs rarely mess with non-members
    Despite living in a neighborhood with TONS of gangs I've never been approached. Why you ask? I keep to myself and I don't start shit.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:07:00 No.2934348
    >>2934192
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    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:07:41 No.2934358
    Their moms just never got scared and said you're moving with your Auntie and Uncle in Bel-Air.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:13:23 No.2934428
    >>2934328

    >Despite living in a neighborhood with TONS of gangs I've never been approached. Why you ask? I keep to myself and I don't start shit.

    Yeah, but you're black. And you said gangs are based on racism, so how often do they fuck with white or spanish people who aren't in their gangs?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:13:51 No.2934438
    >>2934328
    I find this very interesting.

    Actually I used to live in the Midwest where the various Indian tribes were basically gangs themselves. They were pretty ok, unless you fucked with them.
    >> Antonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:14:52 No.2934450
    I have heard that gang members are recruited at a relatively young age. I've heard 10 and 13, so I am not sure of an exact age.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:17:39 No.2934484
    >>2934428
    I live where there are white and latino gang(it's california). The Latino gangs don't mess with me in fact they're cool. The white gangs will befriend you long enough to rob you though
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:21:22 No.2934530
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    OP's picture is missing a very awesome gang sign.
    >> CrPlan9 !PLAN9M8Wsc 01/27/09(Tue)21:25:21 No.2934577
    I have been trying to do the Blood sign for like six minutes and I give up. Fuck, that thing is like some kind of torture.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:26:19 No.2934585
    >>2933396

    Fuck, I love barbegue!
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:26:19 No.2934586
    >>2934577
    It's so freaking easy. Just try.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:26:58 No.2934593
    >>2934530

    Van Buren Boys represent!
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:29:20 No.2934612
    >>2934577

    Use one hand to help make the other. Do you have fucking sausage fingers or what?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:31:10 No.2934632
    >>2934428

    Mexifag here. I'm pale as a daisy and don't look very mexican at all, but so far nobody's fucked with me. Race doesn't mean shit. Just don't be a fucking tool and you'll be fine. Get out of the fucking suburbs, gringo.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:32:20 No.2934645
    >>2934577

    Yeah, it's no wonder gangbangers can't shoot straight, they all have arthritis from making gang signs. Shit is hard for me too.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:34:39 No.2934680
    The signs are pretty easy to do.

    I guess they have to be, I mean look at who has to do them.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:35:15 No.2934688
    >>2934593
    jesus christ i love you
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:35:29 No.2934690
    >>2934632
    Gringo? Isn't that some insult from Star Wars?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:38:00 No.2934714
    >>2934577

    This has got to be a troll, sure it isn't the easiest sign on that chart, but it's still pretty easy.

    //Split it up first, learn each hand, then put it together.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:38:02 No.2934715
    Well, first of all, your average gang member has a higher than average testosterone level and lower than average intelligence. This is empirical info. In theory, gang members may also have less diverse genealogy, due to their being a part of a community that is very likely to remain in the same area for several generations.

    Because of their poverty, they are raised to believe that the rest of society is against them. As time goes by, they believe this is the case, and they give up trying for better grades in school or better jobs after school.

    The gang becomes a surrogate family; similar individuals who share a similar worldview and similar aversion to participation in the rest of society. In their minds, the gangs and the criminal activity associated with gangs is the right way to be; it is a righteous rebellion against the unjust society around them. They apparently never realize that their position in life can be changed with honest work and a willingness to receive guidance.

    And so, after a few generations, you end up with today's typical ghetto nigger. Dumb as a brick, almost certainly inbred and with nearly no hope of success in life, or hope of being able to even understand what success is, in the first place.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:42:47 No.2934771
    >>2934328
    The rest of you need to read this.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:48:19 No.2934836
    You know what bothers me more than gang members? Shitty white kids that grow up in "urban" areas that for whatever reason associate with a certain gang no further than refusing to write "ck" in words or by sometimes wearing blue or whatever. I know a few people that are potheads and hang out with like two black people and apparently they're hardcore crips.

    Fucking wiggers.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)21:53:36 No.2934902
    I used to be in a football(soccer) firm, we could of been classed as semi-gang so to speak. Brawls at games, selling shitty cocaine, stealing cars, looting little corner shops.

    It all has to do with wealth, and where you grew up. I had a father to look up to, and grew up in a working class part of the city. We mainly just did it for the lulz, and to seek protection from other "firms" at games.

    Something to look back on later in life, i suppose. Im now working towards a University degree, and should be making a nice amount of cash with said degree at the end of it.

    Still love a good scrap tho, internet tuff guy etc.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)22:06:50 No.2935074
    At the Anon who has experience with gangs:

    What about initiations? Do they have to kill someone to be accepted into a gang or is that some bullshit myth invented by paranoid, white suburbanites?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)22:13:34 No.2935167
    >do they have to kill someone to be initiated
    bahahaha
    no.
    there are 10 year old crips and bloods

    it's where you grow up.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)22:20:01 No.2935228
    rap music makes blacks think its their role to be gangster
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)22:26:47 No.2935319
    >>2935074

    Usually you get jumped in by a couple of NIGGAZ for a few seconds, then later on they give you missions and shit
    >> Anonymous 01/27/09(Tue)22:45:51 No.2935490
    >>2935319
    Kinda like GTA:SA, right?
    >> Anonymous 01/28/09(Wed)00:14:26 No.2936421
    >>2934688

    I love you too, even if your a dude. That's just my style.



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