That feeling is what it is like to a child who grows up having been raped or molested. That shadow taints everything, steals your sleep, your hopes, your faith. It is always there.Something you can't unsee or unfeel. Something unwanted, evil.

Cypress, Houston, Texas

Lights off! I hear a Witch!

I don't want to overstate the whole thing, or be too dramatic. I had two subsequent nights during which getting to sleep was quite difficult, and I had to climb into my youngest child's bed and wrap myself right round her while pints of anxiety sat, like bad alcohol, in my guts. But it hasn't driven me insane, or made me question my world view. I am still an essentially shallow optimist. I am not damaged.

What I am, however, is host to something that will never leave. It made me realise that you should take great care in what you choose - often in a cavalier moment - to place in your memory, because some things will sit there for ever, like a bad seed; like a shadow on the moon; like a crow on a fence in a dream.

A very tiny part of me now, and will always, consist of an elderly man dying in a wood in Ukraine.

Whilst I empathise with the disturbing thoughts you've undoubtedly had, it's crucial to think about the horror, as you put it, in the context of the things our lifestyles and opinions force on others.
Imagine being Palestinian or Sudanese. Imagine the old man was your father. Our lives ruin others'.

A Jerome Wright, London, UK

I have to agree with Jerome. Many people in our society have a romanticized view of war and violence. When I got back from a deployment in Iraq, I realized how clueless many people are about what war really is. I think seeing images of war and suffering can sometimes help to open the public's eyes.

Jon, Salt Lake City, USA

I tell my children that they cannot un-see something that they see, which is why they must stay away from pornography and why I don't even have a television in my home. There can be no value in planting these perverse things in your head.

Use wisdom in choosing what you consume.

Charles, Palm Bay, FL, USA

Due to my time on 4chan, my resistance to gore has been increased greatly. I don't focus on gore images, I just pass over them with light disgust. But I won't watch that video. It's just...Damn...

I'm sorry you saw that. I've seen two videos of people dying when I was younger and it was months before the visual was diluted in my brain. Since then, I don't watch horror films anymore. I think violence rapes the mind and wish I had, and never do, see anything like that again.

Joshua, McAllen, USA

I watched the video.

Meh.

It's pretty bad but shit happens. This is just one death in a world where people in Gaza are being mutilated to the point where you can't even tell who the mangled used to be. If you get this worked up about a single death you aren't seeing the big picture.

There's nothing cool about sitting through that video. To those of you who did it to show how badass you are: Wow, you are super lulz desensitized. Fuck off and wonder why you don't have a girlfriend some more.

I wanna watch it kinda

But then I don't

I don't think I will

I hope I don't

>>2750586
If you don't get this worked up about a single death then you are missing the big picture.

You don't know what death is like. Open your eyes and hope the day you find out is a long way off.

My mom found CP on my computer a while ago and said something about what it must be like to have that image burned into the back of my head, about to conjure it up at any point.

She also saw my extensive gore folder with the same effect.

How fucked up are all of us, that none of this effects us? It doesn't do a thing to me.

>>2750586
subtle troll, even if it wasn't intentional

>>2750624
We're not fucked up.

We're just different. A new society for the future.

>>2750640

A Stronger Society.

ASS

Kids are going to be different. You couldn't even get a picture of a nude woman when I was a kid. One kid brought a page from the free newspaper downtown with some hooker boobs, little black and white blurry pics. We passed that thing around as if we found the shroud of turin

>>2750624

i took mushrooms and was at a friends house and i was flipping through this weed magazine and all the pictures of growing plants vaguely looked like and reminded me of cp vagina. it sucked and i felt terrible. it doesnt really leave, huh

>>2750620

You care more about one person out of 6.5 billion than two thousand?

Meh, it's not going to change you.

I watched the whole video, and it was pretty gruesome, but I don't think it was worth getting THAT worked up over.
People die every day, in terrible gruesome ways. They have been for years. I mean, romans liked to watch people get ripped apart by lions, but they werent looked down upon.
Death sucks, but it happens. If one death really affected you that hard, you need to live a little more or turn on the news. Gaza is worse shape than that man was.

I am not a vournerable person so those emotion fuel me with the resovle to do righteous things.

>>2750680

Depends who the person is

>>2750590
But I couldn't sit through that video and I don't have a girlfriend ;_;

the first gore photo i saw was of a man who fell off the train platform and managed to get his head stuck between the platform and train itself. obviously he was just hanging there with half his head cut into the platform. i couldnt get the image out of my mind for a couple of days but i just exposed myself to more to desensitize myself.
I still feel for people when i see these images. I know they were someones friend, or family member. They had a life. I also saw part of the video. I couldnt watch it after the first couple of strikes with the hammer.
I am disgusted with what our fellow humans do to each other.
Senselessness, idiotic, inhumane.
Which kills me more and more everytime i come into contact with someone of mean, hateful, spiteful likenesses.

>>2750695
I'm the guy who was called a 'subtle troll'. Glad to see I'm not all kinds of fucked up, because apparently someone agrees with me. I know that it was a very bad, horrific experience for this man to go through before his death, but you have to realize that this sort of thing happens every day. If seeing this happen makes you deeply disturbed, good, you need to realize that it happens to people all the time, especially now with what's going on with Gaza.

If you've seen a gore thread on /b/ at any point over the last 5 (almost 6) years, you'll be fine.

I watched the video of the cat being burned alive, the one in the cage, a few years ago. It took a long time to get back to normal, but I eventually did. Time heals all wounds.

Anyways, I wouldn't watch this video, because I know how much ignorance is bliss.

>>2750731
This.

Pretty much if you've been a /b/tard for more than a year or two this video should disturb you a little but won't fuck you up.

>>2750680
That's not what I said.

None of you have ever actually experienced death. My three year old brother died when I was five. I am still not ok with it. I never will be.
>>2750695
I won't bother trying to explain it to you; just think about the irony of you suggesting to others that they live a little more and watch a little more news. Death isn't in the news. It's right in your fucking face and it's real. You've never seen death.

>>2750731
You can't compare still images with no proof, no references to a video with sound.

You know what raped me like that video raped her? The dead face of that lady that died because of Scientology, Never seen a corpse that old with emotion still on it.

It's not that bad, be a fucking man about it.

god i miss old 4chan. CP was the order of the day, it was perfectly commonplace on /b/, and even after moot declared no more there were epic jailbait threads, which then meant LS-model level shit. Gore threads were slightly less common (due to their generally less HAWT nature) but still one could be found on /b/ at any time. 4chan used to be largely about desensitizing yourself. it used to actually be deviant. now it really is just shit.

If anything, I think watching this kind of stuff should give people a different perspective on life. People don't like thinking this stuff exists and thus get ignorant and nihilistic. And I'm not sadistic by any means, but if you really consider yourself a true human being you should sit your ass down and watch one of the most fundamental aspects of life happen before your eyes.

>>2750756
I'm sorry your brother died, but how are you one to say that these people have never seen death? For all you know they could be a vet from the war.

The way I look at it, we're all animals. No life is sacred and no life is more valuable than someone elses. And it's a shame that people can hang on to death for such a long long time. Emotions are a bit of a curse in a way.

I've seen the video.

Two teenagers kill a man with a hammer in a plastic bag.

Thinking back at all the horrifying things I've seen through the internet. I'm beginning to wonder whether this was a blessing or a curse on mankind.

don't know about you guys but i fap to that video

>>2750624

What did she say? I don't have a cp folder but I cant imagine wtf would happen if my mum found one. Full story if you please.

>>2750727

Why do we "need to realize" this shit, exactly? Should we not flinch at or feel saddened by such brutality because it happens all the time? Should we just shrug it off, or hey, go and fight the Israelis you keep bitching about?

A man died in the woods, tortured and murdered by some bored teenagers.

It's incredibly awful and incredibly sad. I don't "have to" minimize that because people are starving in Africa or children are dying in Palestine. Those are horrible too. Those sadden me too.

Human society needs a disgust/distress response to this kind of thing.

>>2750833
I am sure some of the people who have experienced death have read this thread, maybe even replied to it. What I said was a response to the people whose comments leave no doubt in my mind that they have not.

>>2750756
Your making some pretty loft claims, and are coming off as an extremely presumptuous person. Stop it.

Meh, the video was disturbing, but no scarring to the point where I will constantly be haunted by the Ukrainian that was tortured it the woods.
Month goes by, all is forgotten.
Although this video did bring murder and torture into a perspective for me, and it has changed me in that sense.

Oh come on, worse things happen every day. The only difference is that the other guys rarely film it. There are mothers who have eaten their children, mujahideen who skin people alive, Soviet guards that tied prisoners to poles and let the mosquitoes bite them to death. There is much evil in all of us, but many people just ignore it.

One of my friends prides himself in being an ultra jaded apathetic internet tough guy and bragged about how he watched this video and laughed, why do some people think it's a good thing to be desensitized to everything? I don't know if i felt more raged or sad for him at the time for acting like such a douche.

whats all this fucking BAWWW...how does video compare to terorrist beheading vids, russian soldier decapitation, muslim stoning/gang murder of that girl?

>>2750526
HAHA OH WOW WHAT A BUNCH OF FAGGOTS.
i watched it while browsing the web and eating pizza with some friends.
there is obviously a large difference between watching it online and being around the perpetrators when it is going on.
with the former, who gives a flying fuck, it's not news that there are always stupid shits that do this crap for fun.

>>2750940
Sorry if I came off as presumptuous. The kind of ignorance some people in this thread are exhibiting just disgusts me. I'm fine with you not understanding death; I am glad for you. Just don't fucking act like you get it and anyone who gives a shit is wrong.

>>2750970
That's how the whole world is, no one wants to admit to being hurt.

People go to great lengths to hide how much pain and sadness they feel.

Although one thing that interests me about this video is how interested the filmer was in the face of the guy they hit. I got the feeling he had never done this before and was curious as to what would happen.

>>2751008
poster here.
i used to live in mumbai and whenever we would visit impoverished villages in the south of india you would see dead bodies of kids and beggers sometimes just lying around. I have lost my dad at a young age and my grandmother whome i lived with for much of my early life. shit sux, but you don't need to be a fucking pussy about it.
unlike OP, I must say that I don't see why one who has not been around a relative that has died cannot 'understand death'. When you die, you loose your senses, and then it does not matter to that person. i now feel like crying over it is quite selfish as it simply shows that you feel inconvenienced by the loss of life.

>>2751015
that's a very good thing.
emotion interferes with logic and rational decision making, and it makes you psychologically stronger to resist temptations to give into feelings of hurt.
also, you aren't as much of a pussy, generally.

>>2750624

Nothing really quite effects me, but I don't have a sexual interest like some of you guys do in gore or cp. Never the less when my mother came across my porn supply (Back in the day when I printed it and didn't have a PC in my room), she remarked years later that she was either concerned or didn't know how I could get off to that 'violent' stuff. I think it was simply because it was rough sex.

>>2751036
mr. bubbles is autistic and therefore incapable of feeling empathy for other fellow human beings

>>2751049
Probably a troll, but I'll humor you. Obviously we came away from the experience with very different ideas, but it isn't about being "inconvenienced" for me. I don't think there will be any reconciling of our beliefs, so I won't bother trying.

"It happened in 2007, as part of a summer-long spree in which 21 people were murdered in Dnipropetrovsk, Ukraine. The trial is still going on. With possibly the biggest and most immediate sadness I have ever felt in my life, one penultimate sentence noted that most of the victims were vulnerable people - vagrants, the elderly, a pregnant woman, children."

Any video of the latter two?

>>2751015
>no one wants to admit being hurt
how do you know you are not just overly emotional and everyone else's emotions aren't just more tempered than your own raging hormones?

>>2751079
you sound like the bad guy in a sci fi movie where robots take over the world.

>>2751079
People who suppress emotions for logic and rational decision making are usually antisocial and bad with people/relationships. It's like denying your humanity. It'll catch up with you eventually, and not in a good way.

I won't watch the video, but I think I'm jaded enough to handle it.

Nevertheless, I do think there's some degree of glorifying being desensitized to it all... it's silly to me.

>>2751152
please indicate to me how being unemotional makes antisocial, or even asocial, in the least.
a highly rational, stoic man can value friendship and society same as any other. They can respect that man has developed to be a social creature and must network in order to achieve best.
in fact, a society of such people would have no problem accepting similar behavior from others.
and some parts of our humanity are to be denied if we wish to optimize the function of our society regardless.

>>2751233
Nobody is without emotions, and pretending you don't have them makes you a tool. Also, not having emotions makes things pretty fucking boring.

>>2750526

uh is it wrong that I didn't know what video the article was talking about, and. assumed it was some weird ass porno or something.
I then read the article and realized very quickly that it was that murder video which I had watched a few weeks ago and totally forgotten about.

I honestly wasn't bothered by it, I flinched/sneered a bit when he started whacking his face near the end, though that was more out of reflex than disgust (like when you see someone get punched in the balls)

guess I'm just tough :\

>>2751100
I am unable to detect what other people feel, but I can feel for them when they explain their mood or they do something very obvious. The weird thing is that this only works with women--toward other men I just feel apathy.

>>2751233
You're doing exactly what I mentioned, you're suppressing your emotions, so much so that you think you don't have any.'

This is a classic defense mechanism to stop from being hurt.

I agree with you on the last point though, I don't think we should let EVERYTHING out, emotion-wise, some things should be denied.

>>2751152

To be fair - they (tend to be) bad with the overly emotional, non-rational portions of humanity.

Which is the majority sure, and your point is valid (I'm not arguing it) - I'm just adding on the idea that the reason they're bad with them is often because humanity is often pretty fucking stupid.

Still - trying to force rationality into an irrational world and expecting a good result isn't really all that rational or smart in itself...

Except, if you want to take the argument one further... someone has to do it =/

Someone has to fight for rationality - or we let the irrational, emotionally led, easily manipulated, mostly useless people decide how things are going to be...

Of course, if you actually care about these people - you can argue it either way... either we should care about them and value their opinions (As irrational and, by that standard, worthless - as they may be) and therefore work to work with their irrationality in some sort of compromise... *or* if you really care about them and you believe rationality is the only good way to go - then we should be working our asses off to bring it to them too... no matter how hard it is.

I find it easier to believe the old cliche of "it takes all kinds" though... mainly cause, if everyone around me was smart and rational... then when some irrational fuckers somewhere attacked us, we'd have no nice cannon fodder to put at the front of the army to sacrifice themselves for whatever emotional irrational reason made sense to them...

tl;dr - we need both types. probably.

>>2751256
when did i say i had no inclinations toward being emotional?
i simply said it is generally a good idea to abandon one's emotions in favor of purely rational thought processes whenever and however possible.
i don't know what a 'tool' is and if that makes me one really, i don't care in the least.
I find overly emotional people to be downright annoying and unpleasant, same as you might find unemotional people boring.
perhaps i have opted for something a bit extreme however. Being passionate about one's work can be an important tool. perhaps there is a happy medium, but it still seems like the majority of situations call for pure rationality (as much as possible) over emotionality.

i watched it and it made me feel bad the whole day but not to the extent of the person who wrote the article

i just felt shitty and like i have done something wrong

the part that got to me was when they started stabbing him with a screw driver and when you could hear him gargling on his own blood : (

>>2751282
>guess I'm just tough :\

THIS IS WHAT PEOPLE WHO WATCHED THE VIDEO ACTUALLY BELIEVE

how can being emotional over the content of this video possibly be in your best interest in any capacity???

I watched the whole thing... Meh.

http://forum.uncoverreality.com/audio-video/52789-murderers-brutally-kill-man-camera-beware-sickest-
thing-you-will-ever-see.html

Protip:Thinking about who we're talking about here, a soft girl who watched a video and died inside from it? That's fucking retarded, and she wouldn't last even 40 seconds on /d/.

the reason one should be proud of not getting emotional over such media is it indicates a degree of control over one's psychology, which is something to be strived for, as it can be a useful tool.
now, it's not something to be too proud of, all you are doing is watching a video online, but one can feel a bit proud over the degree of control they have.
Some people might have the ability to control their emotions over the content but have simply opted not to. I cannot say whether they should be proud or not because I don't know if they exist and if they have tested themselves, trying to control their emotions, and failed, so i cannot comment on them.
Another possibility is one is simply too stupid to understand the implications of knowing there are such crazy people closer to civilized society than you might think, and that will result in no response as well. But, people here seem smart enough, so I am guessing this does not apply to most of us debating in this thread atleast.

>>2751418
What you call control over one's psychology others call sociopathy

>>2750560

What's the problem? You're so out of fucking touch with reality that your children must suffer too? You're a horrible parent.

>>2751418
I think you're overrating your ability to "control" your emotions. I still say all you're doing is suppressing them.

>>2750535

Yeah except child molestation is funny.

i wonder what would happen if people spammed this link in kids forums...

Tonight on fox news Hackers infect the minds of children...

All I thought when watching that video was "ewww", but the kind of "ewww" you state when stepping into dog shit.

The picture that will always stick with me however is the shotgun-suicide picture on Rotten.com about 10 years ago now I think. Guy shot his face off but was still alive. His baby-blue eyes stared into the camera with his tongue hanging outside his jawless remains of a mouth.

I've grown over it by now, obviously, but never wanted to see the picture again. Since then every single gore picture or video does little to me. Though the beheading videos did require some 'getting used to' I must admit. Especially the one where the victim gurgled/shouted when they started cutting his head off.

I don't browse ogrish forums or something, I mean, I'm not a fucking psychopath, but overall I think gore is pretty damn interesting and fascinating. It's death afterall, how is that not awesome?

I get sick every time I watch it, but afterward I just kind of forget it. It's never had a lasting effect on me, it's more just "Watch it, feel a little nauseous, turn it off, go on with life."

http://www.IHateJasmine.com/?id=eww6yt0ollepen7y96ju8vqwd0qh6

>>2750756

I know I'm late coming into this, but never seen death?

Well fuck you buddy, you aren't the only person in this world who's experienced something tragic. Oh, so your brother died when you were 5? I saw a gang murder in front of my eyes when I was 13. I'm not saying this to be like "hur dur I'm tough" because it was disturbing, but I'm just pointing out that you (and me) aren't fucking special.

Lot's of people deal with lot's of shit.

>>2751481

Youre a fucking deranged pile of shit that is getting bigger and bigger as you age which hopefully isnt too much more.

>>2751526
Uhh...what the fuck is your problem, faggot?

I gave a proper explanation why the 3guy1hammer video doesn't phase me...

The worst part is the fuckin gurgling noises he makes after they beat his face in the the hammer, and yes, it is a hammer. Shit still doesn't even phase me :/

Fuck. This might be the deepest thread I've ever seen on /r9k/.

Intense

i have 3guys1hammer as my windows wallpaper using vista dreamscapes

So is somebody going to post the video or what.

A lot of opinions expressed ITT come from different sides of the fence. People commenting from different areas in the range of duality. If you are a good person and a man, you should use negitive emotions to strengthen your resolve to be a force of good. When you see a disgusting display of humanity let it serve as a reminder that there is filth in the world that must be dealt with for great justice! Dont go looking for sick shit but when you do see it do not cower or be indifferent.

I can watch this hammer video, I can watch 1man1jar, I can look at uncoverreality, I can look at the Pain Series...

but I can't open .gif images because I am afraid I will see a zombie pop out.
WHAT THE F

>>2751449
suppressing them is controlling them.
and still nobody has given me an explanation as to why doing such a thing is bad.

>>2751695
>Dont go looking for sick shit but when you do see it do not cower or be indifferent

That's what annoys me, I think, is people who actively search for this type of content to watch, thinking it "toughens" them up, when it does no such thing.

If you like the rush it gives you (and some people do), fine. But don't act like you're doing yourself some sort of service, and then brag about it to overcompensate for your raging inadequacies.

>2751682
>2751364

I remember once this guy was like "Hey man did you see that picture on the internet of that baby laying dead on the side of the road!??" And he started laughing. I knew then that I would have to consider him completely insane. Anyone who actually enjoys that would have to be insane. Same with this other guy who one day decided to show me this super-violent gang video that he's gotten somehow with gang members beating up random people.

I will/have completely disowned and never talk to people ever again if I see that they enjoy watching stuff like this. it is one of the most disturbing things to me.

I've seen that video three times. Once by myself and twice with friends. I didn't even flinch, I hate you newfags so fucking much.

See I'm well aware of the horrid shit that happens in this world. Yes I get it life sucks and then you die. That doesn't mean that video shouldn't bother you.

Sorry but there's something wrong with you if you can watch that video and feel nothing without suppressing your emotions.

My reactions to the video?
It wasn't the murder that got to me it was the deliberate torture. In my head I was thinking "just put the poor guy out of his misery you little shits". After everything was said and done though I was filled with cold rage and wanted nothing more than to see those fucks dangling from the end of a rope. Not tortured just dispassionately taken out of this world like the mad dogs they are.

What stuck with me though and I'll never forget this as long as I live was the way the blood pulsed from the red pulp that once was a face.

>>2751838
Oh my God, did you just come here from Digg?

I will be honest, the video did affect me in some way. I decided to watch it out of sheer interest. To test myself. I had watched a series of human anatomy videos where some bodies were dissected. I wanted to see if my ability to tolerate gore was strengthened.

It turns out, it was. However, I could not watch past the money-shot of his mangled face. That part wounded me. It wasn't the fact that the face was mangled, but rather that the body was still breathing. The gurgling of the man breathing through the holes left in his face was a sound I think I will always remember.

After I turned off the video, I just sat there and thought. I was one of the more solemn moments of my life.

I can't understand how someone can do that to another person. Especially with no other reason other than fucking entertainment.

I truly wish those boys will be tortured to death.

>>2750733

NEDM

Caitlin Moran said she was a 4chan regular in a previous column.

It certainly made me flinch and cringe. I just wanted the poor guy to be put out of his misery. It's not going to haunt me for life.

This stuff happens on a day to day basis all over the world. You just have to admit that this is just another day.

>>2751860

>I truly wish those boys will be tortured to death.
>I saw something and found it so terrible that I want it to happen again.

>>2751759

Gives you cancer. Much of our immune system is linked to the limbic system. Repressed emotional response to aversive stimuli causes reduced nervous system response to all stimuli globally. Which means your body will not react as strongly to injury or emotional distress because the 'feeling' of it is repressed. Leads to interesting effects like greatly increased rates of cancer and heart disease, not to mention your emotional intensity even for good things is lessened, aka: souless zombie oh noes.

10 deaths is a tragedy
a million is a statistic.

The truth is, that each death is completely fucked and if we couldnt look past that, everyone would go insane.

this is why PTSD is such a big issue for soldiers. Killing in war is murder all the same, and they know it at some base level of consciousness

>>2751285

Your word is law, Mr. Bubbles. I'll always listen.

If those fuckers tortured and killed me like that poor guy, I would've ripped their organs out of their bodies and crushed their skulls.

As a thought exercise when I watch thinks like this I always reflect on the fact the people involved are real. The old man lived a life before it came to an end. How did he get there? Did he love? Was he ever loved in return? What did he think of when he woke up that fateful morning? What was his childhood like? What were his dreams? Then I think about my life and the fact that I don't know how it will end, that my life may end every bit as horribly and I would never know until it's too late. It's sobering.

Memento Mori and all that jazz.

>>2751954
i don't know that controlling / suppressing certain emotions, such as fear and horror, will reduce your ability to feel other emotions as well. I have never heard of this and I don't understand how it would follow logically either.
As far as controlling feelings of joy when something good happens, I don't understand why you would, I was talking about controlling one's emotional reaction to such a stimulus as this video.

>>2751974
I was hoping more for an explanation for why I feel that way.

>>2751418

Being a hardass is easy online huh?

For one, I guarantee you wouldn't be so indifferent if this happened in front of you. Until later when you repressed it.

Being unrused by this isn't anymore useful than being moved. You can go bitch about Gaza and nigger nigger nigger, but what happened here is just as atrocious the next.

This was a group of teenagers who decided to kill 21 people for entertainment.

>>2751972
Hey did you get that from "On Killing"?
If not it's an interesting book in that goes into further depth on that theme with regards to the hypothetical causes of PTSD.

>>2752072
it looks like you read the first sentence and concluded i thought it was some great achievement to watch this and not feel sad.
if you see the rest of my comment, i acknowledge it still isn't much of an achievement.

>>2752013

The thing that gets me the most is the pain they must feel.
I hit myself on the head with a cupboard, or a doorpost and I curse and feel pain. I get punched and I feel pain. I trip and fall and I feel pain.
But I've never taken repeated blows to the face with a hammer/pipe/beam. Imagine.
The first one looked horrible. And then more. And more. And more, until his face is but a bloody pulp.
Imagine what he must've seen. Sure, the shock helps lessen some of the pain, but that doesn't mean getting your face pounded with a heavy metal object still won't hurt like fuck.
That just brings tears to my eyes. The extreme pain he must be going through and the utter surprise ("Why are they doing this? What did I do?") and the fact that even after he's been beaten and stabbed he's still breathing. He's still hanging on to life.

>>2752072
i disagree. you can acknowledge it is wrong, but the ability to control your emotional reaction is a useful tool nonetheless.

>>2752049
So you're so special and all powerful that you can block all the bad reactions you have while keeping all the good, positive ones, as you skip happily down the road of your life.

It doesn't work like that.

>>2750806
Amen brother.
I used to think /r9k/ was the "cool hangout" where all the oldfags went to escape the newfags and cancer in /b/, but now I see that /r9k/ is mostly all newfags and cancer.
I tried to look the other way when I saw 200+ tripfags, but this thread definitely confirms it- you are all fucking newfags.

As for the video, I watched it, and I didn't care. I felt the same way I did when I watched 1man1jar and 2girls1cup: "oh man! hahaha damn! haha ooo" and after that, it was over.
If you're sitting in your bed at night thinking about this shit, there's something seriously wrong with you. Just think about something else and goto fucking sleep.

>>2752109
stop being a retard. i never said i had perfect control over my emotions, you seem to be getting butthurt that all i am saying is it is a useful ability to be able o control one's emotional response, especially to negative stimuli, as most situations would benefit from a purely logical and rational analysis as much as possible.

explain what 'it' is and why 'it' does not work 'like that' instead of blabbering on incompetently.

>>2751923

It'd do their victims some justice. When they get out of prison, you know something pretty bad is going to happen to them.

here:

http://www.meet-a-dieb.de/spiel.php?id=36

>>2752078
No, I did not but ill check out bookchan to see if i can get it online

first part is a quote, but I forget who from.

the second part is my thoughts on the matter

>>2752049

You would seem to be under the impression that there is a method to 'control' your emotional response to visual stimuli. While it is possible to regulate the emotional affect you conciously feel aka 'repress' it. The emotional response to visual stimuli is actually produced by an entirely seperate and unconcious visual pathway linked to the amygdala. This produces interesting effects like 'subliminal messaging' where an image can be flashed on a screen faster than it can be conciously seen but it will still produce an emotional response in the person viewing it. The neurological pathways that cause emotional response from visual stimuli in fact bypass concious processing entirely. So in a quite literal sense you cannot have concious control over your emotional response to visual stimuli. It can be reduced through specific or generalized conditioning (becoming numb to it) or you can reduce the emotional affect you feel from it conciously (repression) but you simply do not have the ability to "control your emotional response" if you are in fact a human being and not some sort of sentient conglamorate of internet programs.

Wow, this video is not THAT bad. Sure it's horrible, but its just an acknowledgment to reality. Try not to get murdered, yourself.

>>2752109
correction: it doesn't work like that especially if you are a woman. They can't help it.

>>2752145

"Oh guys aren't I cool? I'm and oldfag, and you're all newfags. /r9k/ is just newfaggotry all over. Bawhaw why did you ruin my perfect 4chan with it's delicious gore? Boo hoo, I'm an oldfag."
Honestly, get over yourself. You self-proclaimed oldfags are worse than the newfags.

>>2752183

This is true, the y chromosome actually contains all the genes that contribute to the formation of the large frontal lobe and cerebral cortex that are the hallmark of the concious human being. Women's lack of concious regulation of emotional responses and behavior is due much like lobotomy patients to lack of a functioning frontal lobe. Also their inability to speak about anything other than magazines and relationships is thanks to their lack of grammar or syntactical ability. They are actually just parroting sounds and individual words in a way which often convinces the undiscerning that they are capable of actual speech.

I don't mind that a woman and mother gets pretty worked up about about this video, but to let her write about it and then have other people read it says something about the failure of men to contain female idiocy.

The video interested me much more than it shocked me. I find myself... I don't know, surprised that people can kill the hell out of someone and just... treat it like it's nothing. They're joking, laughing, having small talk during the beating. I mean, the only point where I seen any, uh, "shock" (I guess..) is when the one killer was all "dude just fucking kill him already". I mean, they were totally casual about it until that point. Their first kill was totally spur-of-the-moment as well. The one time I'm actually interested in the human mind, instead of disgusted by it, and it's three teenage psycho-killers. Hah.

oh, and

>>2752052

4chan isn't your personal therapist.

>>2752172
i'll assume you mean 'conscious'. now then, the amygdala is responsible for activating the sympathetic nervous system. In other words, it allows an evolutionary response used to immediately trigger a human to with fight or flee from a dangerous situation, as in if you see something about to attack you it immediately causes you to react with an emotional response of fear. That's pretty much it, despair is involved most with the right frontal lobe, but with a stimulus that does not require an immediate response, such as sadness, brain activity is much more generalized, as the subject typically has more time to think and react.
now, considering you are not about to be attacked in viewing this media and recognizing its implications, sadness and despair would play a large role in the emotional response you have here, you are mixed up my friend.

To me the only thing this illustrates is reinforcement of the notion that Eastern Europe is a fucking blight within the modern age. It's just like this disgusting land of dark age barbarity and misery.

There was another group like this over there a few years ago. That's how it is over there. The women try to find a way to escape and the men just stab each others' eyes out with screwdrivers and shit.

It's a frozen land of death, misery, and hell. FUCK Eastern Europe, that's what I say.

I watched the entire video, not out of some sense of being "manly" (which would be a strange thing for me to have done, being a straight woman), but out of curiosity. I'd never seen something like that, so I wanted to. And then people talk about being made physically ill by it, which just confuses me - I've never felt physically ill from a picture or video. I don't think I'm desensitized, exactly, more that I was never sensitive that way to start with.

>The footage is nearly seven minutes long. I stopped watching after 1.47. I felt physically different - very very high, in a bad way, as if I were going to pass out. I was also, with sudden irrationality, worried that the footage might in some way damage my computer, which I turned off, then unplugged, then covered with a cloth.
lol.

>>2752172
also i already stated by control i mean repress, and the ability to 'repress' such a thing can be a useful tool, again, especially if the stimulus is very negative as purely rational thought processes tend to be ideal in such cases.
it does not follow logically and i have never heard of repressing sadness until the feeling passes lead to a general reduction in one's ability to experience happiness, for example, or any other stimulus.
I already said this.

>>2752349

Oh? A man being beaten to death would not arouse an immediate flight or fight reaction? If we were assessing the threat on a purely concious level this would be true as there is no actual threat from a video. But as you should well know things like a man screaming out in pain, or visuals of someones face in fear are actually processed as threats. Look at the reaction that many people in this thread had to it, or the reactions that most people in society would have, lots of anger, disgust, lots of people very 'keyed up' which indicates an autonomic nervous system response.

I think you are trying to create an intellectual justification for your own emotional repression. If you know enough about psychology to make that argument perhaps you also know enough to identify a defense mechanism when you see it? Control of your emotions indeed.. pfffft.

>>2752452
see, this is just retarded.
it may be a small deal, but when it comes to more important things it truly is generally a good idea to keep your decisions as logical and rational as possible overall.

Man. Didn't bother me much...but wow, that's a lot of blood, and I feel sorry for that guy.

I mean shit, they were really whaling on him with that hammer...I'm surprised he didn't black out. I mean shit, I curse up a storm when I barely tap my thumb with a hammer, that shit hurts...poor guy, what a fuck awful way to go...hearing your own skull cave in and choking on the blood.

The death rattle...or rather death gurgle of him in his own blood almost got me. Almost. But I will say that's a really un-nerving sound, especially when you know what it it.

>>2752487
there is clearly a component of sadness and despair which one can consciously repress, and having the ability to do so, as i stated in my first comment, is useful. I can't help that I watch this and realize it is a bad thing and understand bad things happen in the world, but at the same time see it is just a video, and it would be irrational of me to let it bother me that much.

>>2752474

Well then I'm sure you can remember the last time you felt really happy about something, or really sad, or maybe really enraged by something or other? How often does that happen now?

>>2752452

Can't believe we're the only 2 posts out of 130+ that noticed the cloth part

wtf haha! Thats worse than the "wrap your blinking red xBox in towels"

>>2752551

That would be a cool coping mechanism if it didn't make you an empty souless shell of a human being barely covering a seething mass of unadressed emotion huh?

Didn't you read your freud?

HAH what a pretentious bitch, she says she can relate to war veterans who don't want to talk about having killed people.

War veterans see the brutal death of their beloved comrades up close and personal, and have personally killed many people

She watched one and a half minutes of a stranger being killed, with no knowledge of it being real or not.

What a hooker.

>>2752622
just because you can hurl insults at me does not legitimize your views.

i have this strange unsettling feeling that i want to go through what that man did because i hope it would make me realize that it is truly ok, like, i would just die eventually or i would recover and be all set, and that would sort of make it ok in the end.
right now, i try to comprehend how bad it must be to be in that man's place and feel like i never can, which creates a more unpleasant feeling in me because it makes his pain seem all the more infinitely painful.
anyone else feel the same?

>>2751723
You are afraid of the unexpected. The .gif you describe is called a 'screamer', it like a short suspense movie sequence.

I watched it, meh. Stuff like that doesn't bother me.

Earlier today, my mom called me to make sure I was okay because she heard on the news that a car similar to mine was involved in a bad car wreck near my apartment. I responded "oh cool, I'll go check it out!". She was slightly taken aback by my indifference to rubbernecking the tragedy