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>Three years old. Tell mom I want to be a girl, she laughs.
>12 years old. Tell mom I want to be a girl. She says it's just a phase.
>Join football team in highschool. Quit the next year because seeing the cheerleaders makes me envious.
>Go to the gym for months and get fit. Punch out a mirror in rage at what I look like.
>Get a girlfriend. Have sex. I spend the whole time wishing I was her. Break up with her, don't give her a reason. She spends the next two years trying to get back together with me, always asking why and I still don't give her a reason.
>Graduate high school. Almost kill myself that night but pussy out of it.
>Scholarship to college. Drop out after a year, skipping school several days a week and end up not going at all by the end.
>Move back with mom, now a shut-in who browses the internet all day.

Why can't I just enjoy life? There's nothing even that appealing about being a girl, but for some reason, the thought of not being one fills me with absolute disgust. What is wrong with me?
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not therapists, etc...


blurx
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What position did you play?
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>>2563907
Running back
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Why do you want to be a girl, OP?
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>>2563854
I also wish I was a girl. Shit sucks man.
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>>2563947
I have no fucking idea. I don't WANT to want to be a girl. It's just a nagging feeling I've had since as long as I can remember, I wish every day I understood why.
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Sounds like you're transgendered, which means that your brain is gendered differently from your body. This will most likely never go away.
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It sounds like you had a traumatizing event at an early age that caused you to think you're a girl.
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>>2563986
Nothing like that comes to mind. Do you mean before I was three years old? I can't even remember anything from then.
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Oh god, trap feels.
I didn't want to get into this because of the feels but.
>tell parents I want to trap up before leaving for university.
>they say nothing, assume they're one board
>come back
>they don't mention it
>after a week muster the courage to bring it up
>still nothing
>all my friends are far away
I can't do this on my own.
What do?
;_;
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>>2564013
support group blox
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>>2563986
>traumatized
>believing childhood trauma explains all abnormal behaviour
You read too many novels.
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I don't understand. What's beyond being a "girl" besides considering yourself one? Do you think dressing up in dresses and wearing make up make you a "girl"? I'd consider that more idolatry, or fantasy fulfillment. Also, you're a fag.
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>>2563854

It's called being transgendered. A lot of other people are like this.
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>>2564052
You are the problem with society.
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>>2564052
I consider myself a man. If I considered myself a girl, I wouldn't want to be what I already was.
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Could be that you just hate yourself, and you think that being a girl would make it all better, since it's been one of the things you've been longing for since you were a kid. Maybe you should try being a girl and see if you're still unsatisfied.
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Yes, through mutual friends / social circle. But come to think of it, they actually seemed to deliberately try to interact with me. It was entirely passive on my part, so I'm still beta as fuck.
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>>2564064
Please, explain. Crititque please.
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>>2564080
what BL0X am i reading
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op bumping for input


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>>2564183
Hey OP, you could try considereing yourself a feminine person who is male.
Just a suggestion, if you aren't transgendered.
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>>2563854

You're transgendered. So, congratulations, welcome to the LGBTQ club.
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Don't I have to crossdress and get surgery to be transgendered? Or am I ignorant of what the term means
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>>2564225
What the fuck is the Q for?

Also, everytime someone says LGBT, I always get it confused with a BLT sandwich.
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>>2564257
Well that's kind of up to you.
Most want to pass, but it doesn't matter to some.
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>>2564272
It stands for Questionable
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>>2564257

Transgendered simply means you identify or 'feel' as if you were born into the wrong sex.

>>2564272

Q means queer, queer people just a blanket umbrella term for alternative sexualities and don't wish to define themselves with a label.
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>>2564326
What does that even mean?
Kinda vague isn't it?
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>>2564272
Q means "queer". It's just an umbrella term for those who don't fall neatly under the gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgendered label. It can also stand for "questioning".
>>2564257
>Don't I have to crossdress and get surgery to be transgendered?
Not necessarily. You said that since you were little, you wanted to be a girl. A transgendered person is just someone who identifies more closely with the opposite sex or feels like they were born as the wrong sex. It's most likely the product of exposure to certain hormones in the womb.
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>>2564272

Q stands for "Queer." It's a catch-all for other sexualities/genders/sexes/sex-gender-combinations not covered by the LGBT acronym.

>>2564346

That's kinda the point.
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I don't want to be transgender, I want to be a girl. My friends joke about 'trannys' sometimes, I don't want to be a man in a dress. I feel hopless
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>that feel when you used to have a healthy social life, but threw it all away for personal reasons
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>>2564405
>>2564405
That feel
man, MAN, that fucking feel
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>>2564405
And you can't get into romantic relationships because you don't feel complete in your own skin enough to even consider emotionally and physically committing to someone else.
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>>2564404
Now that's a feel that never goes away.
I know I'll always live with it.
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So if this feeling is never going away, why shouldn't I just kill myself?
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Being born in the wrong body is just a myth, it is just the logical equivalent of the culture we have having such wildly different standards and responsibilities arbitrarily assigned to each gender. There is nothing biologically inherent about being a man that means you can't wear a dress, be a cheerleader, get fucked in the ass, wear make up, etc. You just choose not to because of what other people would think, coincidentally you also want to be it because of what others will think.

There is no such thing as being transgendered because gender is just a social construct, that's why you can't be transracial. You're just overly envious of the advantages women have in society, and underwhelmed by the advantages men have. It's all in your head, and your upbringing, just learn to do what you want regardless of what is arbitrarily expected of you. This whole "Transgendered/Transexual/Transvestite" fad, is just that a fad. It has no basis and biology and every basis in culture. Have you noticed that there are very few trannies in cultures that don't have such strict gender distinctions.

This whole "It's not a choice thing" is stupid, it is just a way for people to place the blame not on their own inabilities to break cultural norms, that are only being reinforced in their heads, and place them in the "Well I can't help it, so you can't criticize me" category. They feel protected from critique that way, it is acceptable to laugh at a dude who wears a dress, but it is unacceptable to laugh at a dude who "HAS to wear a dress, because you know Genes and stuff"
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>>2564518
The way I deal with it, is I pretend I'm a trap samurai, but instead of having the duty to kill myself terribly, I have to live terribly.
I dunno why you should live, but I just couldn't do that to my family and friends.
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>have gender issues
>"IM TRAPPED IN A MAN'S BODYYY"
>sexchange
>hair, clothing and makeup like a woman from the 1950s

>"I'M A MAN TRAPPED IN A WOMAN'S BODY!"
>dat hormone therapy
>force voice lower, start talking like a douche
>grow a douchechill pencil beard or pedogoatee

makes me wonder if all gender identity problems and delusion based
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>>2564535
As a three year old, I didn't care about any of that stuff. I just had the constant desire to be a female. What you said makes some sense, but how could I feel this way when I was that young if it's purely a cultural thing?
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>makes me wonder if all gender identity problems and delusion based

are*
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>be male
>want to be female
>you clearly have a female brain in a male body

>be dissatisfied with your body
>you are clearly a person with a 10/10 brain trapped in a 2/10 body.

>be human
>want to be a wolf
>you are clearly a wolf trapped in a human body

This doesn't work kids.
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>>2564535
I agree with about half of what you said. There is no biological basis for transgenderedism, but that does not mean that it isn't legitimate.
In some American Indian tribes children could choose their gender when they came of age, and it wasn't done because of female privilege, MRA stuff.
I think we can recognize that gender is expressed socially, and allow people to choose theirs, without society falling apart.
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>>2564576
Don't listen to that bastard.
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>>2564576
>have shitty parent
>parent says "you can't do that, only girls can do that"
>FUCK YOU I WANNA BE A GIRL
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>>2564572
>I'LL QUOTE THEM IN CAPS, THAT'LL MAKE THEM FEEL SILLY
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>>2564617
If there is no biological basis for something, it is completely and utterly behavioral.
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I liked a fellow just like that OP, he recently revealed to me that other day that he's a 'woman'. I never really thought too much of the guy - he stoled 20 bucks from me, was kind've a jerk and used his words to dance slyly around people, would clean my weed tin out while i slept, smelt my underwear, whiny heroin addict, but handsome as fuck and incredibly cool to just hangout with, but nothing more.

Anyways, after unsuccessful rehab attempts he spilt the beans to me.

I remember him saying once, on a date he took me out on when we first met, 'people always look a you".

Wonder if thats why he's such a fuckup.
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>>2564576

At age three you had no concept of Sex, i.e. male vs. female either. You didn't know how you were biologically different, you just knew, girls got to wear pink, girls had long hair, girls got to wear dresses, and so on and so forth. You only really had a concept of gender, not sex, as a 3 year old. You knew that girls got to do certain things and boys got to do other things, you wanted to do what the girls did. You didn't just arbitrarily want to be a girl, you, even on a tiny level, understood the different gender expectations and what you couldn't have.

There was nothing stopping you from doing everything a girl was doing at age 3, boys and girls at age three, are pretty much physically identical with clothes on and same hair length. The only thing that stopped you from playing with barbies, and wear dresses was because your mother said "Boys don't do that".

Now I'm not saying the sexes are the same, but I am saying the way we assign gender roles is arbitrary and draconian, so of course you are going to get some people who fall through the cracks.
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>>2564643
Sorry for those typos. I swear I'm not brain-damaged.
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>>2564643
fuckups are fuckups because being a fuckup rewards them with continuing to exist.
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>>2564535
>>2564617
There actually is a biological explanation for it. Of course, there still has to be more research done, but science has found a possible biological cause.
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>>2564535
This is actually good advice. When I was going through gender issues, I spent three months in the wilderness completely detached from society.
You might want to try that, if it doesn't work by all means, get therapy and hormones, but you should at least try it.

>>2564576
Three year olds can be aware of cultural norms.
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>>2564616
Always the wolf analogy.
But there is a clear divide between between people and wolves, though there isn't between men and women.
Also, you can't have a wolf mind, as people are on an entirely different cognitive level than wolves.
The only way that argument works is if you believe that men and women have universally applicable differences based entirely in biology, rather than different social expressions.
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>>2564617

You just said exactly what I said, but added an example, some cultures have more than 2 genders as well. What exactly don't you agree with? I didn't say feelings weren't legitimate, I just meant that the basis for those feelings weren't biological therefore the solution doesn't necessarily need to be physical, hormones, etc., but instead emotional and mental, i.e. disregard gender roles. The tribes you're talking about still had specific gender roles assigned to their genders, it is just people got to pick which they preferred, which made it infinitely simpler.
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>>2564684
You're talking about the brain scan study. Which really just provides more evidence for neuroplasticity.
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Play with the cards you've been dealt.
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>>2564696
it always comes up because its an identical thought process.

There is no such thing as a female brain, the brain structures itself according to however the fuck you're conditioned to act. Meaning transgenderism is no more or less legitimate than furries.
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>>2564635
So anything other than being an animal in the woods is totally irrational?
What the fuck do you mean?
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>>2564721
If you read the op, you'd see that I've spent my whole life trying to play the hand I've been dealt, and am still trying. It hasn't made me feel any better so far
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>>2564684

I'm going to be honest with you. If you give enough people enough money, there will be "Biological/Scientific" proof of anything. The same thing with the biological proof for Homosexuality, when to be honest it doesn't matter if it is a choice or not, you should be free to make it. We need to stop focusing so much on justifying stuff in a way that makes it beyond reproach and understand why these things are so insignificant and personal they don't require justification to an outside party. If I think Meg White and Lars Ulrich are the best drummers EVAR, it doesn't require brainscans to understand why I like shitty music, and justify it as "Not my choice" so no one can criticize me for it.
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>>2564743
There is no biological basis for being anything other than an animal in the woods, yes.
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Huh, this is actually a pretty decent thread.
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just be gay already
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>>2564745
Actually, you're using the idea that you should be a girl as a fall-back to explain everything in your life that dissatisfies you.

The only people who aren't dissatisfied are dumb enough to think anything they do matters.
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Just become one then if you want to be one so badly.
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>>2564750
The study he was talking about was done by students at a university. But since it lacked a proper control group and ignored the fact neuroplasticity exist, its basically meaningless.
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Single mother / Divorced parents, OP?

Are you below average weight for your height/age?

Tried steroids?
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>>2564750
>>2564651
>>2564535

Same guy here again. I'll give you an example my roommate told me, he's gay by the by, which is relevant to the story. He told me when he came out to his parents, they were like "We knew since you were 4 years old and you always wanted to play with dolls and picked the Pink Balloons" and his brother said, "I knew because you always wanted to be Pocahontas when you were 6". And I was just like "Those are totally arbitrary things, and personal choices in aesthetics, if you always played with Transformers toys would that mean you always wanted to be a truck?".

My point is, that they assigned him an identity before he was old enough to understand what that identity even meant. Now I'm not saying homosexuality is never the result of chemicals and shit, but I do believe that the way your family treats you when they subtly think you are gay from the age of 3 or so, might push you to one side or another.
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>>2564736
I think see what you mean.
I think the one thing trapped inside another thing's body thing is a rhetorical strategy, kind of like being born gay. People just say it because some people think that people don't deserve legitimacy without a biological basis, when all of this is actually of a question of social interaction and social expression.
So, the only reason not to like traps is because you believe that social interaction should be tied to biology, but because there really is no single way to model human interaction off of biology, then I don't know what to tell you.
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>>2564790
Single mom, healthy weight for my height, never tried steroids.

>>2564786
Even if that was possible, I wouldn't want to burden my friends and family with the whole thing.
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>>2564789

I've read parts of the study, and I've also read studies on biological reasons for homosexuality, bisexuality, etc. It is part of what I do education wise. I don't remember all of it, but I remembered that the study was either unsound or biased to begin with. What you're saying makes sense though. Liberal students attempting to prove that their desires and actions and mannerisms are not their fault but biology's fault. Now don't get me wrong I'm not saying liberals are bad, but they focus on the wrong thing. IT should be a focus on "I'm a human being, if I make a choice that only effects me, and no one else in a significantly negative way either by design of by probable accident, than it should be within my rights to do it". But that is a dangerous opinion to take because it leaves you open to critique.
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OP, you just need a paradigm shift in terms of gender. You can do all those "girly" things you want; the mere fact that you want to do them doesn't make you any less of a man. You are a man, but you can choose how to behave.
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>>2564856
I don't want to be a man doing girly things, I want to be a girl doing things in general (manly or girly). I want cashiers to address me as ma'am instead of sir. There is nothing else in the world I want more than that.
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>>2564881
Well you're not entitled to that. Get over yourself.
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>>2564881
I don't want cashiers (or people in general) to address or see me at all.

I guess that means I'm a non-existent entity trapped in an existent entity's body.
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But don't some people suffer from hormonal conditions that might explain things?
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>>2564881
>>2564881

Okay but why do you want to be a girl. This is what I've been trying to get at. You seem to only want to be a girl because of the way we treat women, however you view that, and not because of any sort of physical reason. You hate your body because it prevents you from getting that sort of treatment and you love their bodies because it gets them the treatment you want. Were all things equal, you wouldn't want to change, because it is all about how the world is perceiving you and treating you, and that is effecting how you view yourself.
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>>2564925
trans-existentials represent!
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>get over it
I've been trying to do that my whole life. I've been wishing for the impossible since I was born. I'm just going to be miserable until the day I die.
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>>2564916

>I want to fuck guys instead of girls
>LOL YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO THAT

>I want to fuck girls instead of guys
>LOL YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO THAT
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>>2564881
I want teenaged girls to treat me like I'm the most attractive thing they've ever seen.

I am a hot person trapped in an ugly body!
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>>2564942
You want the reason? There is no fucking reason. I don't care about being treated like a girl, people holding doors for me or whatever. I've had no problem getting relationships, I know I'm not ugly. If anything I enjoy the advantages to being a guy more than I'd probably enjoy the advantages to being a girl. The only things I want are to simply BE a girl, and be recognized as one.

Why?

There is no fucking why. It doesn't make any sense at all, whatsoever. There's no logic or reason to it. I've just felt that way since as long as I can remember. I feel that way every second of every day. And I'll likely continue to feel that way.
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Congratulations op, you have a psychological disorder.
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I've wanted to be one since I was born. I used to pray to god every night to turn me into one. Even now I still hold out some irrational hope that I'll wake up tomorrow in a lovely female body. I guess the only thing to look forward to is that full, genetic sex changes will be available in the future.
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>>2564710
NARTH tried to use that same argument in terms of sexual orientation to invalidate the brainscan research done on gays at the Karolinska institute. However, there is little evidence to support the neuroplasticity theory in regards to sexual orientation, especially when one takes into consideration how often reorientation therapy fails. In fact, when Dr Doidge briefly discusses sexual orientation in his book on neuroplasticity, he says "according to Richard C. Friedman, researcher on male homosexuality, when male homosexuals develop a heterosexual attraction, it is almost always an 'add on' attraction, not a replacement." This suggests, if anything, that though neuroplasticity makes it possible (though according to most ex-gay studies, highly unlikely) to "add on" an alternate attraction, sexual orientation is most likely an inborn trait that can't be removed. This is why most ex-gay programs have shifted their focus from from gay-to-straight conversion to an emphasis on celibacy.
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>>2564981

Body Dysmorphic Disorder. I'm not even a psychologist and I can recognize that. The problem is that now instead of treating people with this disorder, you have a whole bunch of "liberated" doctors who just think the cure is giving into you. fucking drug Pushers
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Christ, does it really matter why OP wants to be a girl?

No amount of arguing about the cause or how it is impossible is going to change what s?he wants.
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kill your self, nobody cares. you are not important to this world or any other world
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Don't worry bro, I'm strongly considering it
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>>2565006

I'm not the guy you are responding to, but all that proves is that decades of programming can't be undone with months of therapy. Which is not a huge surprise, but you've sort of talked yourself in a circle because while you can't unprogram someone, you can add on to that programming. So all it proves is that once settled on something it is near impossible to reprogram the brain without drugs/radical therapy. But it isn't impossible to keep programming them as long as that new programming isn't at odds with the old.

So while it is next to impossible to make someone straight, it isn't nearly as difficult to make them bisexual, because it doesn't conflict.
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I wish I was a dude. Would be so much easier.
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>>2564797
>but I do believe that the way your family treats you when they subtly think you are gay from the age of 3 or so, might push you to one side or another.
This really only works for gays with gender-atypical behavior. There are gays who behave in a way that is typical to their gender, but still turn out gay.
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>>2565006
reorientation therapy fails because it tries to undo what was done over a decade or more during a person's most aggressive developmental period in a few weeks.

They focus on celibacy because it is impossible to condition someone to do x when y provides considerably greater rewards.
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>>2565021

He has gender dysphoria. I have BDD, it's not like that at all. BDD is where you look at specific features of your body and actually see them as being severely deformed, and constantly think about it.

For example, when I look in the mirror I see that the cartilage of my nose is bowed out to the left, giving my nose a C shape. Everyone I've asked says they have no idea what I'm talking about and that it's not bowed, but whenever I look in the mirror or at a picture of myself I feel extremely depressed and angry.
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>>2564988
You still won't be a girl. You'll be a guy who had an operation.
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>>2565127
>have a flaw
>obsess over flaw
>you have a mental disorder

Sounds like psychology desperately attempting to justify it's existence.
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>>2563854

Nothing's wrong with you. Ask yourself why you want to change. I've wanted to be a girl for the longest time, I think it has to do with the fact that I'm extremely passive yet positive, traits not associated with men. Combine that with a healthy adoration of the female body and I think that's a rational explanation in my case. It's a stretch to say I was making those connections when I was 2, but at least now that's my understanding.
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>>2565129
He doesn't care about actually being female, he just wants people to see him as a female.

Meaning he'll get the surgery, chug the hormones, and then kill himself when he couldn't pass if his life depended on it
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>>2565127
>>2565127

That's what I mean, we're splitting hairs, he has all the signs of BDD, except we call it something different because the part of his body he hates is his penis, then again he also hates his non-female features. He has the common problems associated with BDD too, Suicidal thoughts, Major depression, Social Phobia. His aesthetic ideal is the female body, as opposed to other features. We can talk about Gender Dysphoria being a sub-category of BDD, but to totally separate the two is silly when they have the same co-morbid mental illnesses.

We only separate the two to make it seem less like they are being shallow and obsessive over small minor things. It gives it a credibility that BDD doesn't have usually.
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>>2564535
It's really up to why you were the first sperm in your mothers womb.

Also this is the one life everyone lives bro.
You could take pills and get a change, but it costs more then enough to make you do porn for a living.
and getting the dick cut off is irreversible...

Always research your stuff man,
personally I would just dress and find one of the pegging ones.
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>>2565162

I don't think you get it. I've asked a few people and they literally said that my nose looks perfectly straight and that I was full of shit. When I look in a mirror or in a picture of myself, I clearly see a deformed, C-shaped asymmetric nose. That's just one example. I also obsess over my jawline, neck, collar bones, muscle insertions, skeletal proportions, basically everything about my body.
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>>2565129

If the end result is an indistinguishable female body, I couldn't care less. That's like saying a shut-in should never try make friends because he was a shut-in.
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shit like this is "normal" but being a pedo is not?

fuck all of you.
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To all the people in this thread, I am a straight male who never really fantasizes about having sex with men. WHY THE FUCK DO I FAP TO BAILEY JAY AND WANT TO SUCK HIS HUGE DICK.
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>>2565165

So again it is cultural conditioning, you were told your personality traits aren't "male" so you identified with female, that combined with adolescence an age where you really start to notice the female body, admiration leads to envy etc.

It really is that simple.
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I don't understand why anyone would feel hatred towards transgender people.
The idea of being the sex you don't identify as would be fucking horrible. And the fags think they have it rough. At least you can hide being a pedo and fucking a kid in the ass or being queer and sucking off dudes in a highway reststop, you can't fucking hide that transgender shit, not if you're transitioning.
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>>2565225
>>>/hm/

youarefuckinggayblox
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>>2565210
You can change being a shut-in

You can't change your genes.
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>>2565210
Except you won't be indistinguishable by any stretch of the imagination.

They'res a reason its called "passing." You look just enough like a woman to get a 65 out of 100.
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>>2565247

Did you miss the part about "full, genetic sex change?" No, I would never get SRS in its current state. That would only happen if I was desperate to be seen as a woman, which I'm not. It's for my own fulfillment, so it won't happen unless it's real.
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OP here. Just sayin I'm not

>>2564988
>>2565210
>>2565280

I probably shoulda used a trip.
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>>2565247

He could look like this, this is a transgender. You can't tell this looks like a man in anyway.
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>>2565086
Though oftentimes it doesn't take decades to become "programed". Children as young as 7 can experience attractions to the same sex in spite of being exposed to heterosexuality all their life. Likewise, children raised by same-sex parents typically grow up heterosexual in spite of being exposed to homosexuality all their life.

Anyway, I see what you're saying. I just don't see it as all that far-fetched that biology would play a significant role in determining sexual orientation. If it can determine something as trivial as which hand you prefer, I don't see why it couldn't determine which sex you prefer.
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>>2565280
Isn't SRS more about getting rid of the male genitals that only serve as a constant reminder of the person's maleness, and not "oh i am now real girl"
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>>2565207
>>2565207

No you don't get it, you're talking about BDD, which I have no doubt you have, I'm just saying Gender Dysmorphia is also a type of BDD, or at least should be considered one. Let me put the definition here so you can see what I mean.

BDD is a type of mental illness, a somatoform disorder, wherein the affected person is concerned with body image, manifested as excessive concern about and preoccupation with a perceived defect of their physical features. The person complains of a defect in either one feature or several features of their body; or vaguely complains about their general appearance, which causes psychological distress that causes clinically significant distress or impairs occupational or social functioning. Often BDD co-occurs with emotional depression and anxiety, social withdrawal or social isolation.

OP is A) Concerned with his body image and displays excessive amounts of preoccupation with an or several vague imaginary physical defects, i.e. being a man, looking too masculine, having a Penis, etc.

B)OP is complaining about this general appearance despite it only being in his head, he feels men aren't attractive, thus doesn't want to be one. Hates his body.

C)OP's BDD is co-morbid with Emotional Depression, Social Withdrawal, Suicidal ideation, etc.

So you can see why they are very very similar right? I'm not saying you have the same thing, I'm saying it should be considered a type of the same disorder. Having Genital HErpes is very different than having the cold sore type.
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>>2565294
Biology should be replaced with brain structure, as how certain parts of a person's brain are structured dictate whether this person is left-handed or right-handed, gay or straight, transgender or not, etc.
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>>2565294
Except no one attempts to reassign seven years olds.
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420chan is a good place to have your problem thoughtfully analyzed, OP. Way less trolls and LOL SUICIDE dickweeds than 4chan

This is a transgender board, they really know their stuff.
http://boards.420chan.org/cd/

I wish you the best of luck, my friend. I just want to give you a huge hug right now.
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>>2565327
You've got pretty much all of that backwards.

The brain structures itself in response to whether this person is left-handed or right-handed, gay or straight, transgender or not, etc.

Its called neuroplasticity.
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YOURE SUPPOSED TO FIND A GF AND VICARIOUSLY EXPERIENCE IT THROUGH HER

THATS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT YOU IDIOTS

SINCERELY,
GOD
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>>2565292
When you take off his wig, you see the male pattern baldness, though.

Not even mentioning the carefully chosen camera angle, photoshopping, lighting, contrast, etc, etc.
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>>2565340

everyone on that board needs medical attention
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>>2565349
Hey, God, what happened to that Rapure thing that was supposed to happen last August? I was prepared, man, and you let me down.
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>>2565342
Neuroplasticity is how the brain changes in response to stimuli, not how the brain is innately. And a person is innately left-handed, straight, not transgender, etc. The only real thing that could change this is, what? Brain damage?
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>>2565370
The only person that made the cut was a 97 year old pagan woman living off the grid in north dakota.

Everyone assumed she was eaten by a bear.
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>>2565334
"Reassign"? Are you talking about gender identity or sexual attraction? Either way, yes they do. Lots of parents will try to intervene if they suspect that their child has atypical attractions or gender behavior.
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You're a girl OP. Just accept it already. There are probably uglier girls than you in the world so it doesn't matter anyway, being a girl has nothing to do with how attractive you are.

To all the anons calling OP a man, give her time and she'll figure out the situation herself.

Answer this question OP, would you rather have a female body and be treated as male by others

OR

Have a male body and be treated as a female by others.

If the answer is the second one you are not actually transsexual, but jealous of the "beauty" aspect of biological females. If it helps, at least I think of you as a girl.
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>>2565383
Also, when are you gonna bring back the dinosaurs? Are you gonna start craking down on the pedos like you're supposed to? And can you stop my balding?
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>>2565380
>stimuli doesn't influence neuroplasticity, stimuli does!
what?
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>>2565370
You were not prepared. The only way to be prepared for the rapture is to not be prepared.
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>>2565349

What are women then, God? You mean Derrida was right and they're really soulless beings?
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>>2565380
So people are born knowing how to write, throw a baseball, and suck cock.

amazing.
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>>2565319

That post wasn't directed at you, I was quoting the guy who said that all mental disorders were bullshit to show that I did have a legitimate disorder.

But I do agree with what you're saying, they are similar and both are somatoform disorders
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Do they? I haven't seen any actual studies done, not to be that kind of guy, that shows children under the age of 10 or so fully understand what homosexuality is, and consider themselves to be that. Kids are kids, their likes are arbitrary and the gender lines are blurring just enough to confuse them, but not enough to accept them being who they want to be regardless of sexual orientation or gender norms. It is a shitty time to be a kid because they are bombarded with gender biased propaganda from all sides and then expected to make a coherent decision when they're so full of hormones that'd you most likely fuck a horse just to get off.

The idealized media man is getting more "traditionally" feminine, and the idealized media woman is getting more traditionally masculine. Then in the real world you're hit with people telling you that that is wrong, your dad tells you you should be a man, while your mother tells you you should be more sensitive. Your grandma tells you not to hit girls and be a gentleman because girls like when you listen and care and your grandfather tells you about the time he killed a Chink with his bare hands, all the while ignoring his wife. The girls at school simultaneously fuck the big strong guys as they pine for the sensitive loner types on the silver screen. And lets be honest, society, the media and pretty much every other piece of non human propaganda tells you "You can only be one of those things, so choose you faggot, and so god help you if you choose wrong because this is who you are for the rest of you life"

cont.
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>>2565410
People are born with a predisposition to use their left hand to hold something over their right hand, to be attracted to males instead of females, etc.
>>2565400
Are you serious? Clearly brain damage is not stimulation. At least nowhere near what most environmental factors are.
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>>2565384
I've never heard of people sending their seven year olds for reorientation therepy that consists of pumping them full of drugs while they watch gay porn.
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>>2565408
Anyone claiming to tell you the answer is only barring the way to the truth.
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>>2565424

We treat personality traits and sexuality like they are a fucking skill tree in WoW, and if you try to get to many of them you'll be a useless piece of ass. Life is fluid, but that is a complicated lesson. It is hard to make a character on TV, be a BiSexual Football player who enjoys Classical music, when you can define him as just one, and lets be honest the media raises us, our parents just help. And lets be fair the media sends out such fucking mixed signals, you have Glee coming on Fox, which if you just turn a few channels over you can see the same logo under a show talking about how all homosexuals are the devil incarnate.

This sexuality and gender game is rigged. But the thing is we all lose, because none of us know who we would be if not for everyone telling us what we couldn't be, what we could never be, because we were born with the wrong thing between our legs. How many more men would be Ballerina's? How many more women would be UFC fighters? And how many more of them would be infinitely happier for it? That is a question that we can't answer, obviously, but it still gets at the heart of the issue. We are all robbed of our full potential at birth, because their are things, and don't be a smart ass and say "mother", but their are things that should be perfectly reasonable for us to want to be, that we are told from the moment we pick them up and display interest/talent/aptitude with, that it isn't "For boys/girls"
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>>2565437
Except... they aren't!

Babies grab pretty much randomly and the hand that more consistently makes contact with something determines whether they are right or left handed while the brain structures itself accordingly to more efficiently utilize whatever hand.

sexual orientation develops in a similar fashion. Erections happen pretty much randomly and whatever you happen to be looking at more often while erect establishes the foundation of "sexual orientation."
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The way people treat you and what they tell you doesn't affect how you are. The problem is that people are born a certain way and interpret the world around them in a way that corresponds to their character.

When I was a kid my dad told me that girls needed to be protected by boys.

So I took that advice and doted on my older sister, holding the door open for her and shit like that.

But my dad didn't mean it like that, I was born biologically female and he was trying to warn me and "condition" me as female or some shit. But I genuinely thought he meant for me to protect my sis.

Since I'm a boy I filtered out the influences that I thought weren't directed to me because I'm a boy, and since I thought of myself as a boy, even when people were trying to treat me as a girl I interpreted it as people being shitty to me or trying to insult me.

Basically if you're a boy it doesn't matter how you're raised, you pick the details you pay attention to and those are the ones that shape you.

Also transitioning isn't the answer to all your problems, but it makes you a complete human being capable of taking on the challenges you need to, instead of being a broken miserable freak (that's how you feel right? It's not true, you're just some assembly required)
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>>2565439
No, that wouldn't happen. However, there are Christian preachers out there who advocate beating the shit out of your son if he starts acting like a "sissy". Does that count?
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>>2565485
Except that isn't reorientation therapy, that's child abuse.

One is systematic, controlled, and (most importantly) consensual, the other is random and non-consensual.

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