ANARCHlSM

it would fail from our lack of effort and turn into a dictatorship

Dictatorship is the only way that works.

I kinda like a Oligarchy

Who's we?

America or /r9k/? Hard to tell by your starter pic.

Personality type feudalism.

okay, we like comedy so ben franklin gets to be president, fuck that asshole washington. dude was no fun

/r9k/. I just used the Convention picture because that's what they basically did.

I'm thinking some form of loose banditry, where the government is really just a bunch of thieves who ride through towns and "tax" people once in awhile.

>>2557333
...the punchline is so obvious here, I'm not even going to bother delivering it.

Noocracy

>>2557341
I'd appreciate if you didn't.

>>2557312
Oligarchy is a horrible idea, are you just mentioning it because it sounds cool?

>>2557333

This is a good time to remark that I fucking love the word "kleptocracy."

You should too.

Peer to Peer governance with Merit Resource Allocation.

an obamaocracy, clearly

.doc would do just fine for me

>>2557409
you mean a combination of obama socialism and zedong communism?

>>2557365

Ya. Too bad we are talking about creating a new government, not keeping our current system.

>>2557436
Nooo, god dammit, you weren't supposed to post the punchline!

A 21st century revision of European-styled democracy + common law
+ a bill of rights to include provisions for technology up to and including the internet, also restricting the use of surveillance technology
+ guarantees for a high standard of education
+ complete freedom of movement
+ totally controlled firearms, meaning police may not have access to them either (DISCLAIMER: pro-gun? just ignore this one, because I guarantee this thread will be completely derailed if you don't)
+ proportional representation and coalition based multi-party democracy with a born citizen as figurehead head of state
+ a number of non-hierarchical democratic bodies
+ total judicial independence
+ some SERIOUS restrictions on the free media (yes, that's right) prohibiting them from reporting anything too divergent from the truth.

that last one is pending, subject to me thinking up a way to do it without censorship powers.

>>2557411
Pff. .txt, nigga. Better compatibility.

I think FAT32 would suffice.

>>2557491

you must be shitting, ext4 just went stable bro!

>>2557477
Why not RTF?

I would put my rc files in /etc/rc.d/ instead of /etc/init.d/ like a fag. "rc.d" means less typing, and less letters, leaving more room for the actual OS. Not to mention rc files in rc is more logical than putting rc files in a folder called init.d.

NTSC NTSC NTSC

>>2557313
Your comment made me rage for a limited time. 2/10

>>2557461

So give non-elected representatives to the judiciary the complete power interpret law....:/

I think the best thing the American system has going for it is the bicameral legislature.

If every state gets the same amount of votes in congress, states with bigger populations and bigger economies get screwed.

If every state gets a certain amount of votes in proportion to their size, tiny states get ignored.

Therefore, the Senate uses the first system and the House uses the 2nd system. Win-win. Jefferson was fucking clever for thinking that one up, I'll tell you that much.

We should build a highly advanced artificial intelligence that would secretly rule over the entire population by using advanced CGI to generate fake presidents every 4 years so that the people think that they're electing human beings, when, in reality, they're ruled by a machine that is only ruled by pure logic, incorruptible. The machine should be kept hidden deep within the ground in a massive complex layered like an onion, filled with various defenses so that the AI cannot be tampered with by humans.

>>2558884

Sounds like Towards the Terra, bro.

Socialism, of course - which will explicitly dissolve into Communism.

In before extremely retarded randians crying SPUTNIK IS A LIEEE and thinking etatism is communism

Something 'bottom up' rather than 'top down'

>>2558908

'True' communism would be good. Socialism is the shitty part.

>>2557461
YOUR IDEA SUCKS

FAGGOT

Fat32

/thread

Anarchism (post-scarcity), of course. Why would I want people to tell others what to do? Each can make up their own damn mind.

True, working communism is the best government. Unfortunately it is absolutely impossible because everyone on earth are not robots.

stfu kids, socialist capitalism is where it's at. There's no such thing as practical communism, and woe to mankind if it were. Any form of government that operates with groups as oppossed to individuals would cause massive bloodshed and possibly starvation.

>>2557293
freedom?

BAH NEVER MIND THAT'S OLD FASHIONED, FASCISM IS THE BEST WAY!

>>2558987

you miss the point completely. In true communism, if one person starves everyone starves, therefore everyone works against starving. Ever played the zerg in starcraft? they're communists.

Fascist. Only with cultural nationalism, instead of the blue eyed blonde nonsense. Secular, still capitalist but with restrictions on large businesses, and liberal attitudes to sexuality (consider Ernst Roehm).

>>2558999
like ants?

they all work for 1 thing, and they're doing a really good job

>>2559095
Ants are a really bad example.
They're all being manipulated to propagate the genes of another being. Genes that they share, but they won't pass on themselves.

Bad example.

National Capitalism

>>2558987
Socialist capitalism?
What the fuck is that?
You can't all means of production owned in common AND in private.

You guys all suck, the good answer was democracy

NOW ALL OBEY ME AND GO SUCK SOME BALLS

christian theocracy

>>2559179
fuck, democracy. america isnt democratic at all.

i want anarchism god damn it. fucking hate government intervening with people's lives.

>>2559245
why would you want a bunch of people doing whatever the hell they want? Have anarchism and it will lead to military dictatorship

>>2559245
But you like when other people are interfering with you, your wife (oh, they would very deeply interfere with her) and your things?

America was perfect before lincoln decide "LOL, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS BETTER THAN ALL YOUR STATE GOVERNMENT!!! I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU VOTE FOR, DURR I AM PRESIDENT, WE HAVE CIVIL WAR NOW AND RUIN THE FOUNDATION OF THE COUNTRY (United states, not just one super powered federal government) BUT LOLOLOLOL IT'S TO END SLAVERY SO EVERYONE WILL BE FINE WITH IT"

Slavery sucks, but it wasn't worth trashing the country over.

Anarchism is the opposite of a realistic vision.
It, by definition, is the most easily abusable system possible.
The secret to a stable system is one that cannot be abused.

Theocratic Communism. Take that Marx.

>>2559350
>Slavery sucks, but it wasn't worth trashing the country over.

Yes it was. Fucking Paultards.

>>2559333
how will you know it will lead to military dictatorship? its not like when there are no authorities, people are going to eat each other up. universal law should be in concern.

>>2559340
sorry, the people dont set millions of rules to each other. if there are conflict between people, that's their own problem. they should be able to negotiate.

If a president is good for the people, why do they need an army of security agents to protect them?

>>2559350
>America was perfect before lincoln.

wow, go re-learn history. then lets see whats up.

Restricted Democracy
+ common law
+ a bill of rights to include provisions for technology up to and including the internet, also restricting the use of surveillance technology
+ guarantees for a high standard of education (with provisions to make kids into strong people with strong will)
+ complete freedom of movement
+ Legal drugs and Firearms of all kinds, but massively harsh penalties if crimes are commited either under the influence or with firearms - we're talking torture
+ total judicial independence
+ No state media, but huge penalties if the truth is bent
+The voting public consists only those who pass a series of tests to gauge their awareness of politics
+Free genetic engineering

TECHNOCRACY
http://www.technocracy.org/
4 REELS

>>2559393
To protect them against nutjobs with italian rifles.

>>2559399
Torture is a bit much. To get into power, you could say that you were going to abolish torture, and you'd get power.
Just ruin them financially. Make sure they can never get a job, like bury them under debt or something. They might go on a spree kill, but if everyone is packing heat, they may just sell their gun instead.

under anarchism there would be no president to shoot. problem solved.

>>2559430
They'd just shoot you instead, to get your stuff.

http://www.lust-for-life.org/Lust-For-Life/WorkersCouncilsAndEconomics/WorkersCouncilsAndEconomics.h
tm

>>2559448
Because nobody shoots you for your stuff in today's advanced society.

>>2559390
Social Contract Theory.

When everyone is too busy trying to protect their things from other people, they'll turn to someone. There's going to be factions and gangs eventually, as people find teaming up against others will benefit themselves a lot. Even amongst family members.

If someone has 10 siblings, he can fight a family of only 1, and take over their things no questions asked.

But if that 1 befriends another family with 9, the two of them can combine to combat the 10. Thus eventually leading to people grouping completely together and giving 1 person power.

>>2559459
Exactly..?

Is this meant to be a contradiction or an affirmation?

- free guns for everyone
- forbidden to form groups of any organization or non neutral idiology
- science is most important policy
- no bullshit energy sources (wind, hydro) but yes to electric cars
- all forms drugs are outlawed (alcohol, tobacco too), if caught no persecution except banishment from said country
- NO FUN

>>2559350
trashing the country? the way i see it having strong state government is counterproductive.

>>2559467

What things? people would have access to all the same shit everyone else has. there would be no profit motive for crimes.

>>2559514
Because everyone is satisfied with just one car, one fridge, one wife, one computer, one ...

>>2559533
so I'm supposed to fear violent gangs of computer nerds who hoard computer chips because they are stupid assholes? preventing that doomsday scenario is the reason we should allow power to concentrate in the hands of the greediest, sociopathic, and corrupt people on the planet and give them a monopoly on violence?

>>2559550
I'm going to give up with you. Enjoy your strawmen. Of which you have more than your fair share.

>>2559482
what do you think war is for? are you new to earth?

>>2559562
honestly, if we make enough for everyone to have what they want, the only reason gangs would shoot you for your stuff is to create artificial scarcity, and then try to profit from that. today we will call those people capitalists and worship the ground they walk on, getting rid of them has proven to be a difficult task.

>>2559550
You don't have to fear them, they might fear you.

Since assuming you can beat up a computer nerd, the only logical choice would have that nerd team up with another nerd.

Those two nerds keep you down due to safety concerns that you will beat them up.

>>2557461
I'm going to help you establish this.
Then I'm going to lead a revolt with rifle armed rednecks, chanting USA! USA! USA! While driving around firing at from folding chairs in the bed of a pickup truck.
It will be glorious.

>>2559333
I see it as leading to feudalism.

i would like a system where i am undisputed ruler but you have my word i would work for fariness and freedom

>>2557461
I sort-of like this one.I would consider doing away with the myth of representation in legislature altogether i.e. just having members elected by proportion of votes. My MP (UK) hardly ever sits in, and even if he did, he's one guy. Power should be in the hands of those that give a fuck i.e. actual voters.

And for the last one: no. I am sympathetic to banning things that are directly harmful i.e. drugs. If they could be genuinely controlled, only some wacko libertarians would for them back (which is similar to your policy on guns.) I believe there is a genuine demand for prostitution, though, for example, and it should be legalized and regulated

>>2559902
I mean "representation"...of constituencies

>>2557491

I lol'd

In regards to OP, I think the U.S. needs to become a democratic republic.

>>2559920
you wouldnt be making a subtle pun would you?

anarchy. u are all retards. die

GENIOCRACY FOR FUCK'S SAKE.

-Social status is determined by intelligence.
-Children that show obvious signs of mental retardation are euthanized.
-Citizens below a certain intelligence level are not allowed to vote.
-Citizens who wish to apply for a government or management position must take a test of logic to prove that they can reason, and reason well. The higher the function, the more difficult the test and the higher one needs to score to get in.
-Old people who show signs of a mental disease (Alzheimer's for example) are euthanized.
-Depressions, burn-outs and other forms of work-related mental breakdowns are allowed since they're a result of stress that can happen depending of circumstances. However, if a person suffers too many breakdowns, this generates a penalty in his intelligence rating and he'll be demoted to a lower (and less stressful) position.
-A small amount of poor/homeless are tolerated because they're a buffer for the job market if things pick up dramatically.

>>2563192
You realize an idiot such as yourself would not benefit from a geniocracy?

A loose centralized government with a STRONG state government. The authority of the state supercedes the federal government, especially in times of crisis. Dispose of all federal supportive programs.

It would be a strict dictatorship because based soley on baw threads I am fairly convinced that I could kick the fuck out of roomfulls of you people at a time, while befriending anybody who actually posed a threat.
But you would probably enjoy my reign, it would be like Jim Jones touring with slayer.

>>2559402
technocracy is definitely the way to go.. provided the country we're speaking of is capable of being largely self-sufficient and doing a better job of it than all communist retard states did...

>>2563226

It is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

anarchy u dumb bitch

heroinism. anarchy ftw

anar

anarchy = love

Libertarian Socialism

The state would be a small organization of the working class, which handles economic decisions and the allocation of resources. Small communities would govern their own citizens on social issues, and citizens who were unhappy with a certain social organization could migrate to another or organize their own. Criminal justice would be fairly relative depending on the community.

>>2560587

Now why would l go and do a thing like that?

:3