2 things are to blame for this:

- 21st century americans believe everything should be given to them on a plate in 30 seconds or less. when they become parents, they expect it to be just as easy.
- as a direct result, they let other things (tv, teachers, older kids, parenting books, etc.) parent for them. all of these things pander to parents by ensuring a child's safety over all else.

You will not make a very good parent.

Um, no shit and its a terrifying trend and often used as an excuse to censor adults.

The Internet and TV were never made for kids. If parents don't think it suits them then don't let them on it just like you don't let your kids go to bars and strip clubs.

>>2497151
Typical basement philosopher bullshit
The real reason behind this is because our culture says we can make anyone into anything. If this were true making the perfect citizen would just be a couple of 30 year olds and a newborn away. But it isn't and it never was. Media isn't replacing parents because parents never had that role

You want to shelter your kid? Fine. But when they do something I dissapove of, and get fucked up because they don't get that some people really will stab you first if you threaten them, don't complain to me.
TL;DR people like me will end up maiming your snot nosed shits because they never got to see the darker side of people.
GG mom and dad!

>>2497159
Probably not.

But why do you say so?

>>2497120
>tl;dr i smoke crack cocaine

>>2497193

You are a witty, funny person and your comment is highly amusing. We all benefit by your existence and to lose you would be a tragic loss for us all.

>>2497193
tl;dr I don't get the point

>>2497177
Based on your argument
>kids becoming desensitized to violence
>because they haven't felt any real, genuine pain.

Isn't the reason why people become desensitized to something is because they see enough of it? If your theory is kids have to feel pain to not be desensitized to it, I can't help but disagree.

>>2497165
I suspect you come from /v/ or maybe /a/?

>>2497212
PROTIP:Desensitization doesn't really do as much as it's hyped too. Humans have a natural gag reflex when it comes to actual violence. It's one thing to see a head get chopped off but when you stare down at some sobbing poor sap you probably won't do it

i disagree, op...parents are not "overprotective of their children"...if they were then they wouldnt need the rest of us to babysit their children for them...the problem with parents is that they are LAZY which is why "the government and the people who run the internet" should be doing the job their moms and dads should be doing in protecting the little sugar dumplings away from objectionable material

>>2497212

Forgive me; it's early in the morning and I felt like getting this off my chest, so maybe I didn't word it as well as I should have. It's a serious issue.

What I mean is this: If you have never felt pain, then you can't appreciate it. In a practical setting, this means you're likelier to take really stupid risks because you don't respect the consequences of failure. It doesn't even have to be physical pain--losing money, say, or something of value.

Until you're hurt, you won't appreciate how bad hurt really is. It sounds cruel, but that's how I see it. Not telling you to hit your kids or to let them get maimed or injured, but to grow into decent and whole humans, they have to know what hurt is.

I hope that made sense, I can barely keep my eyes open.

>>2497229
>>2497165
>>2497151
The exact same faggot of all three post

>>2497243
f to tha izzail

anon2497229 here and thats my only post...why not contribute something other than simultaneously being smug and wrong?

>>2497235
Experiencing pain is NOT what makes you avoid it. Predispositions and endurance do that for you.

I think the important point here is we acknowledge the quality of OP's thought.

When danger lurks, do we run and hide or do we run and go train.

personally i think many prefer the first because they honestly feel weak: weak against the world, weak against the government, weak against the factors that control their meager lives. When one feels weak all you can do is run.. the idea of strength does not occur to these types as they have never known, nor seen, power of will for the use of good.

Its up to you to show them. if they refuse comprehension, do it because the next generation is watching. Its a sad cycle when a flimsily generation abandons their successors, inadvertently condemning them to the very weakness they despise, and fear.

My parents did not shelter me from violence, when I was younger (like 14-15) and I tried to buy a M rated game for my N64, my mom would not care because she knew I wouldn't grow up to become a serial killer just because I saw a squirrel piss on some rocks in a night club (Conker's Bad Fur day lol).

My friend had been sheltered by his parents, and he grew up to become prone to psychological problems, when his girlfriend left him, he nearly killed himself because he had never felt as much pain due to him being driven away from it for his whole life.

>>2497265
i was speaking to THEIR point of view...reread that...and btw what the fuck is going on with our schools!? faggots cant think, faggots cant read...

>>2497258
I am the fag who wrote
>>2497173
>>2497203
>>2497215
>>2497224
>>2497268

>>2497235
That makes sense. If you have it good, well then you can never consider what it's like to have it bad.

Why are you depriving yourself of sleep, fellow anon?

>>2497289

Funeral. A coworker of mine, a woman I regarded as something of a grandmother. She died Saturday. The viewing is at noon and the burial at two. I don't know any of her family, but I feel I should go, just to show respect. Just drop in, say hello, and be done. She was a pretty good lady, so it's kind of getting to me, y'know?

>>2497235

Understandable direction you're coming from, and it's the truth. Most parents however, like >>2497229 said, are simply too lazy to deal with any of their children's issues on their own. Why should they have to take the time to explain to their kids what violence, sex and drugs are? It's easier to complain to TV and internet providers for allowing such perverse things to be remotely accessible to a child.

The right way: Your child stumbles upon porn online. You take the time to explain to them what it is, why it's there and why adults use it. If you've not given them "the talk", now's a good time. Dissuade them from perusing such things until they're older and more capable of understanding it on a personal level, but keep in mind they'll probably find more. If absolutely necessary, set up parental controls on your computer to limit time used or monitor what websites are visited.

The wrong way: Your child stumbles upon porn online. Rather than explaining what it is, you scold your child for finding it and ground them from the computer, then contact your local ISP and tell them they're doing a horrible job keeping your child from finding porn. You don't install parental controls because you're a moronic douchebag, and instead crusade against the internet for harboring such vile footage that your child, who actually understands how to operate a computer, can find.

OP, if you communicate with the coworker about the subject again, tell her it's the parents responsibility to care for what their child has access to and not the "ruler of the internet." Parental Controls are not hard to access / set up, especially on nowadays computers. Holy shit, they're actually built for exactly the reason we're talking about, who would have thought? Also, call him / her a stupid douchebag and tell them they'll make a terrible parent.

Sheltered upbringings are becoming more common, and they're very bad.

I look at kids today, they're all snotnosed brats who expect everything right now this instant, and end up being mentally scarred for life when something bad happens to them, >>2497271's friend being a classic example.

Next generation will be the worst generation, mark my words.

And dear god i sound old...but i know i'm right. I know it.

>>2497282

how about producing something rather than just tearing down all else.

>>2497312

Maybe you are; maybe you're not. The world is in the shitter right now, but overall, we've got it good. Mostly affordable health care, mostly free of disease, mostly living older than fifty years...you know, in all, the world is getting better, even if it does have problems.

And the one thing that never changes?

The old always talk about how horrible kids are "these days". I'm not meaning to be cute or insulting--it's just that when we're kids, we don't understand how awful we can be.

>>2497307
In all fairness, even when I was in elementary school, I was able to circumvent every parental control I came across.

Part off the problem is these whiny baby-boomers can't even use the technology themselves. They just think it's a magic box and that it keeps little Johnny occupied. So the moment something oh-so-shocking happens, they blame someone else for their ignorance.

>>2497330
This is true, but I can look at my peers and see the exact same thing. The kids who went to private (especially religious) schools are always the ones with the deepest psychological problems. And they are ALWAYS the one engaging in stupid behavior the moment they get free.

>>2497342

"Good afternoon, you've reached the Texas Instruments help line--"

"DID YOU SELL MY SON THIS TRASH?"

"...ma'am?"

"DO YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU WRITE 5318008 ON ONE OF YOUR FILTHY CALCULATORS AND LOOK AT IT UPSIDE DOWN, THAT IT SAYS SOMETHING??? SOMETHING OFFENSIVE???"

"...what?"

"YOU ARE SUCH A FUCKING IDIOT."

>>2497357

funny, i had the exact opposite experience.

>>2497357

Private schools don't do wonders for us. I should know, I attended one from K-12. However, if you're not a fucking idiot and have the ability to root yourself in reality, it's possible to avoid being completely fucked up by their system. I did my best to keep myself and my circle of friends out of the "mindless sheltered" attitude. However, I also had parents that were pretty cool, allowing me to do whatever I felt like so long as it wasn't illegal. Can't say the same for some of those poor schmucks at my school.

Wait, this argument runs in a circle.

1. Kid sees something bad
2. Grows up angry about it
3. Tries to stop it from getting seen
4. Raises over protected child
5. Grows up and witnesses it
6. Raises a child resentful towards restrictions
1. Kid sees something bad

God damn it people

>>2497323
Okay:PEOPLE CAN'T BE BUILT. HUMAN NATURE EXIST

>>2497406
You sir know nothing of the modern debate over human nature

>>2497390

Private school kept my interactions with women to a minimum.

And here I am.

>>2497432

Take your BA in philosophy and go back to slinging coffee at Starbucks, writing your screenplay that will never be seen by anyone important, and having an unwarranted sense of self importance because you own a mac.

>>2497390
It's impossible to be mindlessly sheltered. If this were true everyone would need to have the "talk" just so they could have sex. I learned how to masturbate on my own

Who put the kids at the helm of the internet in the first place, hmm?

>>2497454
SCIENCE DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS MOTHERFUCKER?
Science has pretty shown human nature is very biological and environment(espicially media) doesn't do shit

>>2497457

You, sir, have not been to private school.

My older brother, who attended the same school as I, insisted on not even masturbating because he thought it was sinful. This lasted until he was 20 years old, when I, 6 years younger than him, told him he was a fucking moron.

All I have to say is **** censorship and **** everyone who disagrees with me.

God, this thread could only be full of fucking shit. I know this because I read op's post. Anyone who's written more than three sentaces here is a fucking retard.