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  • hang in there, fella

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    63 KB Booksss Notripfag 12/15/08(Mon)05:31:55 No.2444929  
    Dear /r9k/et-scientists that you are,

    Follows hereafter a list of books I intend to read (I only have bought about 20 of them, and will acquire the rest in a short while, when I have amassed the vast fortune necessary to do so).

    Most of them are from the "100 best English language novels from 1923 to the present"-list (TIME magazine) and the "Modern Library 100 Best Novels"-list. The rest are my own picks and recommendations from other people.

    Please point out some more epic books I will like (but wait until I have posted the entire list, might take a few minutes).
    >> Notripfag 12/15/08(Mon)05:32:45 No.2444936
    English

    2666 (Roberto Bolano)
    A Bend in the River (V. S. Naipaul)
    A Briefer History Of Time (Stephen Hawking)
    [NOT "A Brief History of Time"]
    A Clockwork Orange (Anthony Burgess)
    A Dance to the Music of Time (Anthony Powell)
    A Day No Pigs Would Die (Robert Newton Peck)
    A Death in the Family (James Agee)
    A Farewell to Arms (Ernest Hemingway)
    A Global Parliament - Principles of World Federation
    [AVAILABE ONLINE]
    A Handful of Dust (Evelyn Waugh)
    A High Wind in Jamaica (Richard Hughes)
    A House for Mr. Biswas (V. S. Naipaul)
    A Mercy (Toni Morrison)
    A Passage to India (E. M. Forster)
    A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man (James Joyce)
    A Prayer for Owen Meany (John Irving)
    A Room with a View (E. M. Forster)
    A Tale of Two Cities (Charles Dickens)
    A Town Like Alice (Nevil Shute)
    A Treatise of Human Nature (David Hume)
    Absalom, Absalom! (William Faulkner)
    Against a Dark Background (Iain M. Banks)
    Alice's Adventures in Wonderland / Through the Looking-Glass, and What Alice Found There (Lewis Carroll)
    All The King's Men (Robert Penn Warren)
    American Pastoral (Philip Roth)
    An American Tragedy (Theodore Dreiser)
    Angle of Repose (Wallace Stegner)
    Animal Farm (George Orwell)
    Anna Karenina (Leo Tolstoy)
    Anthem (Ayn Rand)
    Ape and Essence (Aldous Huxley)
    Appointment in Samarra (John O'Hara)
    Are You There God? It's Me, Margaret (Judy Blume)
    Arrowsmith (Sinclair Lewis)
    As I Lay Dying (William Faulkner)
    At Swim-Two-Birds (Flann O'Brien)
    At the Mountains of Madness (H.P. Lovecraft)
    Atlas Shrugged (Ayn Rand)
    Atonement (Ian McEwan)
    >> Notripfag 12/15/08(Mon)05:33:17 No.2444940
    Beloved (Toni Morrison)
    Blood Meridian (Cormac McCarthy)
    Brave New World (Aldous Huxley)
    Breathing Lessons (Anne Tyler)
    Brideshead Revisited (Evelyn Waugh)
    Call It Sleep (Henry Roth)
    Cat's Cradle (Kurt Vonnegut)
    Catch-22 (Joseph Heller)
    Citizen of the Galaxy (Robert Heinlein)
    Collected Poems of W.B.Yeats (William Butler Yeats)
    Crime And Punishment (Fyodor Dostoyevsky)
    Dangerous Laughter: Thirteen Stories (Steven Millhauser)
    Darkness at Noon (Arthur Koestler)
    Death Comes for the Archbishop (Willa Cather)
    Deliverance (James Dickey)
    Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? (Philip K. Dick)
    Dog Soldiers (Robert Stone)
    Double Star (Robert Heinlein)
    Dune (Frank Herbert)
    East of Eden (John Steinbeck)
    Elmer Gantry (Sinclair Lewis)
    Ender's Game (Orson Scott Card)
    Everything That Rises Must Converge (Flannery O' Connor)
    Fahrenheit 451 (Ray Bradbury)
    Falconer (John Cheever)
    Feed (M. T. Anderson)
    Fifth Business (Robertson Davies)
    Finnegans Wake (James Joyce)
    For Whom The Bell Tolls (Ernest Hemingway)
    From Here to Eternity (James Jones)
    Getting Things Done (David Allen)
    Go Tell it on the Mountain (James Baldwin)
    Gone With the Wind (Margaret Mitchell)
    Gravity's Rainbow (Thomas Pynchon)
    Great Expectations (Charles Dickens)
    Greenmantle (Charles de Lint)
    Guilty Pleasures (Laurell K. Hamilton)
    Henderson the Rain King (Saul Bellow)
    Herzog (Saul Bellow)
    Housekeeping (Marilynne Robinson)
    How To Win Friends And Influence People (Dale Carnegie)
    Howards End (E. M. Forster)
    I Know Why The Caged Bird Sings (Maya Angelou)
    I, Claudius (Robert Graves)
    Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah (Richard Bach)
    >> Notripfag 12/15/08(Mon)05:35:48 No.2444952
    Infinite Jest (David Foster Wallace)
    Influence - The Psychology of Persuasion (Robert B. Cialdini)
    Invisible Man (Ralph Ellison)
    Ironweed (William Kennedy)
    Jane Eyre (Charlotte Bronte)
    Kim (Rudyard Kipling)
    Light in August (William Faulkner)
    Lolita (Vladimir Nabokov)
    Lord Jim (Joseph Conrad)
    Loving (Henry Green)
    Lucky Jim (Kingsley Amis)
    Main Street (Sinclair Lewis)
    Memory And Dream (Charles de Lint)
    Middlemarch (George Eliot)
    Midnight's Children (Salman Rushdie)
    Money (Martin Amis)
    Moonheart (Charles de Lint)
    Mrs. Dalloway (Virginia Woolf)
    Mulengro - A Romany Tale (Charles de Lint)
    My Antonia (Willa Cather)
    Mythago Wood (Robert Holdstock)
    Naked Lunch (William Burroughs)
    Native Son (Richard Wright)
    Neuromancer (William Gibson)
    Netherland (Joseph O'Neill)
    Never Let Me Go (Kazuo Ishiguro)
    Nostromo (Joseph Conrad)
    Notes from Underground (Fyodor Dostoyevsky)
    Of Human Bondage (W. Somerset Maugham)
    On Liberty (John Stuart Mill)
    On the Beach (Nevil Shute)
    On the Road (Jack Kerouac)
    One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Ken Kesey)
    One Hundred Years of Solitude (Gabriel Garcia Marquez)
    One Lonely Night (Mickey Spillane)
    Pale Fire (Vladimir Nabokov)
    Parade's End (Ford Madox Ford)
    Physics Of The Impossible (Michio Kaku)
    Play It As It Lays (Joan Didion)
    Point Counter Point (Aldous Huxley)
    Portnoy's Complaint (Philip Roth)
    Possession: A Romance (A. S. Byatt)
    Pride and Prejudice (Jane Austen)
    >> Notripfag 12/15/08(Mon)05:36:11 No.2444955
    Principia Discordia (Greg Hill & Kerry Thornley)
    Rabbit Is Rich (John Updike)
    Rabbit, Run (John Updike)
    Ragtime (E.L. Doctorow)
    Red Harvest (Dashiell Hammett)
    Revolutionary Road (Richard Yates)
    Rights of Man (Tom Paine)
    Scoop (Evelyn Waugh)
    Shane (Jack Schaefer)
    Sherlock Holmes: The Complete Stories (Arthur Conan Doyle)
    [ISBN-13: 978-1853268960]
    Sister Carrie (Theodore Dreiser)
    Snow Crash (Neal Stephenson)
    Someplace to Be Flying (Charles de Lint)
    Something Wicked This Way Comes (Ray Bradbury)
    Sometimes a Great Notion (Ken Kesey)
    Sons and Lovers (D. H. Lawrence)
    Sophie's Choice (William Styron)
    Starship Troopers (Robert Heinlein)
    Stranger In A Strange Land (Robert Heinlein)
    Studs Lonigan (James T. Farrell)
    Suttree (Cormac McCarthy)
    Tender Is the Night (F. Scott Fitzgerald)
    The 4-Hour Workweek (Timothy Ferriss)
    The 48 Laws of Power (Robert Greene)
    The Adventures of Augie March (Saul Bellow)
    The Age of Consent: A Manifesto for a New World Order (George Monbiot)
    The Age of Innocence (Edith Wharton)
    The Alexandria Quartet (Lawrence Durrell)
    The Ambassadors (Henry James)
    The Art Of Seduction (Robert Greene & Joost Elffers)
    The Art Of War (Sun Tzu)
    The Assistant (Bernard Malamud)
    The Berlin Stories (Christopher Isherwood)
    The Big Sleep (Raymond Chandler)
    The Blind Assassin (Margaret Atwood)
    The Bridge of San Luis Rey (Thornton Wilder)
    The Call of the Wild (Jack London)
    The Catcher In The Rye (J-D- Salinger)
    The Color Purple (Alice Walker)
    >> Notripfag 12/15/08(Mon)05:36:32 No.2444958
    The Complete Works by W. Shakespeare (William Shakespeare)
    The Complete Works of Saki (Saki)
    The Confessions of Nat Turner (William Styron)
    The Corrections (Jonathan Franzen)
    The Crying of Lot 49 (Thomas Pynchon)
    The Cunning Man (Robertson Davies)
    The Day of the Locust (Nathanael West)
    The Death of the Heart (Elizabeth Bowen)
    The Door into Summer (Robert Heinlein)
    The Fountainhead (Ayn Rand)
    The French Lieutenant's Woman (John Fowles)
    The Ginger Man (J. P. Donleavy)
    The Giver (Lois Lowry)
    The Golden Bowl (Henry James)
    The Golden Notebook (Doris Lessing)
    The Good Soldier (Ford Madox Ford)
    The Grapes Of Wrath (John Steinbeck)
    The Great Gatsby (F. Scott Fitzgerald)
    The Handmaid's Tale (Margaret Atwood)
    The Haunting of Hill House (Shirley Jackson)
    The Heart is a Lonely Hunter (Carson McCullers)
    The Heart of the Matter (Graham Greene)
    The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy (Douglas Adams)
    The House of Mirth (Edith Wharton)
    The Hunt for Red October (Tom Clancy)
    The Illuminatus! Trilogy (Robert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson)
    The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (C. S. Lewis)
    The Little Country (Charles de Lint)
    The Magnificent Ambersons (Booth Tarkington)
    The Magus (John Fowles)
    The Man Who Loved Children (Christina Stead)
    The Martian Chronicles (Ray Bradbury)
    The Master and Margarita (Mikhail Bulgakov)
    The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress (Robert Heinlein)
    The Moviegoer (Walker Percy)
    The Naked and the Dead (Norman Mailer)
    The Old Man and the Sea (Ernest Hemingway)
    The Old Wives' Tale (Arnold Bennett)
    The Painted Bird (Jerzy Kosinski)
    The Politics of World Federation: Two Volumes (Joseph Preston Baratta)
    The Portrait of a Lady (Henry James)
    >> Notripfag 12/15/08(Mon)05:36:59 No.2444961
    The Postman Always Rings Twice (James M. Cain)
    The Power and the Glory (Graham Greene)
    The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie (Muriel Spark)
    The Principles of Mathematics (Bertrand Russell)
    The Puppet Masters (Robert Heinlein)
    The Rainbow (D. H. Lawrence)
    The Recognitions (William Gaddis)
    The Satanic Verses (Salman Rushdie)
    The Secret Agent (Joseph Conrad)
    The Sheltering Sky (Paul Bowles)
    The Sot-Weed Factor (John Barth)
    The Sound and the Fury (William Faulkner)
    The Sportswriter (Richard Ford)
    The Spy Who Came in From the Cold (John le Carre)
    The Stand (Stephen King)
    The Sun Also Rises (Ernest Hemingway)
    The Tipping Point (Malcolm Gladwell)
    The Wapshot Chronicle (John Cheever)
    The Way of All Flesh (Samuel Butler)
    The Wings of the Dove (Henry James)
    The Wood Wife (Terri Windling)
    The World According to Garp (John Irving)
    The Worm Ourobouros (E.R. Eddison)
    Their Eyes Were Watching God (Zora Neale Hurston)
    Things Fall Apart (Chinua Achebe)
    To Kill a Mockingbird (Harper Lee)
    To the Lighthouse (Virginia Woolf)
    Tobacco Road (Erskine Caldwell)
    Trader (Charles de Lint)
    Tropic of Cancer (Henry Miller)
    Trustee from the Toolroom (Nevil Shute)
    U.S.A. (John Dos Passos)
    Ubik (Philip K. Dick)
    Ulysses (James Joyce)
    Under the Net (Iris Murdoch)
    Under the Volcano (Malcolm Lowry)
    V. (Thomas Pynchon)
    Vanity Fair: A Novel without a Hero (William Makepeace Thackeray)
    Walden (Henry David Thoreau)
    War and Peace (Leo Tolstoy)
    Watership Down (Richard Adams)
    >> Notripfag 12/15/08(Mon)05:37:27 No.2444965
    We The Living (Ayn Rand)
    White Noise (Don DeLillo)
    White Teeth (Zadie Smith)
    Wide Sargasso Sea (Jean Rhys)
    Winesburg, Ohio (Sherwood Anderson)
    Wise Blood (Flannery O'Connor)
    Women in Love (D. H. Lawrence)
    Wuthering Heights (Emily Bronte)
    Yarrow (Charles de Lint)
    Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (Robert Pirsig)
    Zuleika Dobson (Max Beerbohm)
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:38:28 No.2444971
    you have pretty much everything covered there

    happy reading!
    >> Notripfag 12/15/08(Mon)05:38:30 No.2444972
    Deutsch

    // Saemtliche Werke (Franz Kafka) [ISBN-13: 978-3518420010]
    Also sprach Zarathustra (Friedrich Nietzsche)
    Beim Haeuten der Zwiebel (Guenter Grass)
    Berlin Alexanderplatz (Alfred Doeblin)
    Billard um halbzehn (Heinrich Boell)
    Buddenbrooks (Thomas Mann)
    Das Glasperlenspiel (Hermann Hesse)
    Das Kapital (Karl Marx)
    Der Antichrist (Friedrich Nietzsche)
    Der Fuerst (Niccolo Machiavelli)
    Der Zauberberg (Thomas Mann)
    Die Blechtrommel (Guenter Grass)
    Die Leiden des jungen Werthers (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe)
    Divina Commedia (Dante Alighieri)
    Fruehlings Erwachen (Frank Wedekind)
    Homo Faber (Max Frisch)
    Hundejahre (Guenter Grass)
    Kritik der praktischen Vernunft (Immanuel Kant)
    Kritik der reinen Vernunft (Immanuel Kant)
    Nikomachische Ethik (Aristoteles)
    Phaenomenologie des Geistes (G.W.F. Hegel)
    Philosophische Untersuchungen (Ludwig Wittgenstein)
    Politeia (Platon)
    Siddhartha (Hermann Hesse)
    Steppenwolf (Hermann Hesse)
    >> Notripfag 12/15/08(Mon)05:39:28 No.2444977
    Francais

    A Rebours (Joris-Karl Huysmans)
    Candide (Voltaire)
    Discours de la methode (Rene Descartes)
    Du Contrat Social (Jean-Jacques Rousseau)
    Essais (Michel de Montaigne)
    Germinal (Emile Zola)
    Julie, ou la nouvelle Heloise (Jean-Jacques Rousseau)
    Justine ou Les Malheurs de la Vertu (Marquis de Sade)
    L'Etranger (Albert Camus)
    L'existentialisme est un humanisme (Jean-Paul Sartre)
    Le Comte de Monte-Cristo (Alexandre Dumas, pere)
    Le mystere de la chambre jaune (Gaston Leroux)
    Le Pere Goriot (Honore de Balzac)
    Le Rouge et Le Noir (Stendhal)
    Les 120 journees de Sodome ou l'ecole du libertinage (Marquis de Sade)
    Les Justes (Albert Camus)
    Les Miserables (Victor Hugo)
    Madame Bovary (Gustave Flaubert)
    Meditations metaphysiques (Rene Descartes)
    Un Amour de Swann (Marcel Proust)
    Vingt mille lieues sous les mers (Jules Verne)
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:39:46 No.2444980
    Why did you wall of textus with your taste in books? You are not that important.
    >> Notripfag 12/15/08(Mon)05:41:54 No.2444996
    OK, that would be all.

    If you're wondering why there are German and French books, I'm Luxembourger (next to Germany and France), and my native tongue most closely resembles German. But I prefer anglo-saxon literature.

    Any suggestions?
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:42:45 No.2445003
    >>2444980
    No, feel free to sage, I don't care. But there might be someone who likes books and wants to copy this list, or even tell me what I'm missing out on.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:43:58 No.2445013
    I can't help but noticing that you're calling us 'roket-scientists' (or, perhaps, 'rcket-scientists'). This is wrong and I will have no part of it.

    tl;dr: Your name for us sucks.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:45:11 No.2445021
    www.harvard.com/onourshelves/top100.html
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:45:57 No.2445028
    >>2445013
    I'm sorry. Any way to make up for this?
    >> AM !!/CJ7Dj5CNz0 12/15/08(Mon)05:46:27 No.2445032
    Harlan Ellison's "Deathbird Stories"

    Paingod is my fave from that collection. Ellison basically creates a new gods and a myth to accompany each

    Neil Gaiman, Patton Oswalt and a few others highly recommend it
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:48:34 No.2445048
    There's no way I'm reading through your wall-of-text list, you European bastard.

    Here's a short list of books I've enjoyed and think someone else would as well:

    The Corpse Walker
    One Hundred Years of Solitude
    East of Eden
    Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ's Childhood Pal
    The Brief Wondrous Life of Oscar Wao
    Love in the Time of Cholera
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:49:31 No.2445054
    >>2445032

    Superbig thanks! (originally, this was "duly noted", but well..)
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:51:32 No.2445069
    >>2444955

    Anyone read Call of the Wild? I'm reading it on my iPod, it's pretty interesting but there doesn't seem to be a big plot event yet...doesn't help that I didn't get a back of the book summary or anything

    And if you haven't read Catcher in the Rye yet idk if you have enough interest in books to read more than a few of the books on your list; The Catcher in the Rye is a very mainstream popular book...
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:51:54 No.2445072
    Godel, Escher Bach.
    Must read. Especially for a channer.
    Redneck Manifesto.
    Apocalypse Culture 1 and 2.
    Again, must reads for 4channers (maybe some of it is /b/ heavy) but not stuff you see pop up on lists like these that often.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:52:38 No.2445077
    >>2445048
    Oh come on, don't be so ad hominem, you make me wanna cry there :(
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:53:41 No.2445085
    Also, Siddartha is the best book on that list that isn't catch 22.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:55:51 No.2445096
    >>2445077
    >don't be so ad hominem

    Once you obtain all of these books I'm going to kill you and steal them.

    I just want you to know that.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)05:55:58 No.2445098
    >>2445069

    What can I say, I've spent my childhood mostly reading German books. I mean, have you read Faust by Goethe, or Tod in Venedig by Mann? You probably haven't, but still I don't judge, because it's just not your native tongue.

    I love books, and right now, I want to indulge in English/American literature. Just haven't had the time to do so until now.

    Just sayin'.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)06:00:15 No.2445131
    >>2445096

    You can buy most of them at a very modest price, considering their age.
    >> AM !!/CJ7Dj5CNz0 12/15/08(Mon)06:00:49 No.2445138
    Zen and the art.. will give you a good taste of American culture (roadtrips, technology) it's the new Walden. "On the road" is good too (more roads, basically sparked the current american teenage dream: drugs, chicks, party, woo!)
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)06:17:05 No.2445267
    >>2445138
    So, I can't make it through Zen. My dad recommended it. He recommended lots of good books, but reading a father son book recommended by your father is almost as uncomfortable as sitting next to him the car when Mike And The Mechanics come on the radio.
    >> AM !!/CJ7Dj5CNz0 12/15/08(Mon)06:20:03 No.2445284
    >>2445267
    even worse, the son got stabbed to death IRL as mentioned in the epilogue

    okay so skip that one, def hit "On the Road". I hated it but recognize its value and heavy influence on 60's american culture
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)06:24:49 No.2445318
    >>2445284
    On The Road was another Catcher In The Rye experience for me.
    Even though I read it as a young teenager, so much of the popular culture I had been into up to that point was heavily derivative of these works, so they actually fell flat for me. Despite recognising their fine writing.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)07:15:07 No.2445661
    Gormenghast trilogy seems to be missing from your list.
    >> AM !!/CJ7Dj5CNz0 12/15/08(Mon)07:18:23 No.2445687
    >>2445661
    I really want to read the gormenghast trilogy, the author having gone insane while writing it has an alluring element for me. next summer, I will attempt to read it, this I vow.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)07:22:49 No.2445715
    >>2445687
    It's hysterically funny and somewhat unsettling too. Enjoy!
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)07:39:32 No.2445802
    is that it? just fiction? pffff

    a lot of novels are pretty much about the same thing. if you spent half as much time reading even just the back of some of the books you listed as you evidently have spent typing that shit out for 4chan, you'd be able to cross a hell of a lot off the list. E.g., theres only so many books about american expats in 1920s paris you can read before getting sick of the whole concept.

    tl;dr: you can narrow the list down. by a lot.
    >> 2-XL 12/15/08(Mon)07:53:19 No.2445859
    Fuck yeah Mrs Dalloway!
    I'm not reading you big ass list, but if you don't have these add them, they're all by Vonnegut cause I have much love for the man.
    Breakfast of Champions
    God Bless you, Mr. Rosewater (My favorite book :D)
    SlaughterHouse-Five
    and lots of people would say Cat's Cradle too, but I didn't like that too much
    Uh and for some unrelated shit read A Scanner Darkly, the book is so much more amazing (and easier to follow) than the movie
    yeah so
    Get on that shit
    FUCK YEAH MRS.DALLOWAY
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)09:59:57 No.2446478
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    >>2445802
    At some time, I just want all these books to be in my home library (as soon as I live alone, still at college right now), and I want my children to grow up with them. I've grown up with books, too, but mostly German ones, since my parents don't speak/read English that well.

    >>2445859
    I've only read Slaughterhouse-Five by Vonnegut, and I absolutely loved it. It fucked with my mind (kind of).

    -----------

    Different question: what book on that list makes you most uncomfortable? I got into 1984 thinking 'oh yeah that book was written like 60 years ago, I bet it doesn't impress no one anymore', but shit, that thing was really making me uneasy.

    Pic not related, but I guess I have your attention now.
    >> whistler 12/15/08(Mon)10:05:28 No.2446515
    >>2446478
    Madame Bovary did for me. Because she is so annoying and it just never stops. I had not expected that.
    >> AM !!/CJ7Dj5CNz0 12/15/08(Mon)10:14:01 No.2446575
    >>2446478
    Not sure if it's on the list:

    Nausea by Sartre made me ill almost vomitty a couple times

    granted, I was a sheltered 17 year old and had never seen the internet at it's finest (necro-gore fucking FTW), so I have no idea what effect it would have on me now.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)10:59:44 No.2446829
    >>2446575

    lol nice. I've put it on my list.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)11:02:54 No.2446847
    >>2446478

    >pic

    Jesus! Man, come on, not cool. DDDDD:
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)11:10:49 No.2446879
    >>2446515

    Madam Bovary sucked. I honestly don't see the appeal of the book, nor do I see why it's considered classic or canon. Not only is it boring, but the main character is an idiot who constantly makes really really stupid choices, and doesn't do much else besides that. What's the point?!

    1984 on the other hand, was genuinely scary, and disturbingly prophetic. That's a book I'll be giving to my kids when they're teenagers... if it's not outlawed by then.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)11:11:18 No.2446882
    >>2446847
    What time is it where you live? Dark-outside-time, much?

    xD (lol "xD")
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)11:27:21 No.2446968
    Okay holy shit if you can read German I sincerely hope you've read everything by Kafka, because goddamn I would kill for the ability to read his stuff in German.

    Those are all good picks on the list, not surprisingly, but they lack any sense of nuance. What I mean by that is that you have great representatives of Modernist lit (Dalloway) but nothing really drenched in Modernist style (heart of darkness, for instance, is conspicuously absent). My problem with that is that you'll never discover the slightly weaker, but immensely entertaining offshoots and precursors to these "classics." I mean, you're gonna miss out on sex like "The Picture of Dorian Gray," and that's just sad.

    For that reason, I'd highly recommend reading that list until you find a book that you really enjoy, and then taking a break to search for its contemporary titles. They may not be as proficiently written or universally appealing, but I think you'll end up enjoying the experience a lot more.

    Lastly, lemme just say it's fucking awesome to see Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Class on that list. I even had high school teachers try to tell me that book is "just about drugs, right?" and it's always very disappointing to hear.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)11:29:33 No.2446989
    OP, why do you think those books are good?
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)11:32:49 No.2447012
    >>2446879
    For it's time, Madam Bovary displayed a level of sexuality/promiscuity that was honestly revolutionary. It essentially began the entire Realist genre, and to this day it's use of realism is considered extremely bold and compelling.

    However, like Mrs. Dalloway, a lot of people find it boring precisely because it feels so restrained (and isn't nearly as shocking today as it was in the past). If you want to appreciate it, you really have to focus on the author's use of language. If you pay attention, you can really see how Realist writing is a crazy balancing act between restraint and extreme complexity.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)11:39:31 No.2447057
    I hate people who strive to read all the 'classics' as if having read them makes them look smart or interesting.

    I have a lot more respect for people who move from book to book based on their interests. You don't have to read a specific set of books to be 'well read'.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)11:41:17 No.2447068
    >>2444996
    A Luxemburger sounds fucking delicious. That is all.
    >> Sparky !n0ffRKpgOw 12/15/08(Mon)11:41:32 No.2447070
    >>2446968
    >I even had high school teachers try to tell me that book is "just about drugs, right?"
    >high school teachers
    >just about drugs, right?

    I just exploded with rage. I just turned in my final paper for Literary Criticism on Alice in Wonderland, there's so much more to it than people give it credit for!

    I love Lewis Carroll, thank you for including him in your list.

    Oh, how funny, I just read White Noise for that class too, it's pretty good! Catch-22, Hitch-hikers, East of Eden/Grapes of Wrath, Neuromancer? I think I'm in love with you.
    >> What Teeth! 12/15/08(Mon)11:42:54 No.2447080
    >The Great Gatsby (F. Scott Fitzgerald)

    Why is it that this book is so widely praised? I read it not long ago and it was the most boringly written, mind numbing pile of shite I've ever experienced.

    I finished reading it to see what happens at the end. Not much, it turns out.
    >> Sparky !n0ffRKpgOw 12/15/08(Mon)11:44:36 No.2447091
    >>2447070
    Your French & German lists make me so envious, I wish I could read those books in their original language. Hell, I'm learning Italian now partially because of Dante's Inferno :'D German is next on my list of languages though, so someday I'll be able to read Nietzsche in his original language!
    >> Sparky !n0ffRKpgOw 12/15/08(Mon)11:45:55 No.2447099
    >>2447080
    Personally, when I read Great Gatsby I hated it. It's only now, 5 years later, that I look back and want to read it again, this time for myself rather than for any class.
    >> What Teeth! 12/15/08(Mon)11:52:56 No.2447132
    >>2447099

    I was the same. I basically didn't bother with it in school and managed to scrape a pass based on notes I found on the internet. I wish I didn't go back and try to read it properly.

    I did the same for To Kill a Mockinbird, but I loved it on my second read through.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)11:53:16 No.2447136
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    OP, you forgot Lanark: a Life in 4 Books by Alasdair Gray.

    Seriously. It's as much a great book as "One Hundred Years of Solitude". It's amazing.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)12:07:47 No.2447236
    No Haruki Murakami?

    Come on man, his stuff is all modern classics.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)12:14:39 No.2447277
    srsly,
    even if you read everyday, you won't get to read 2% of all published material in the world

    stick to the books that you enjoy
    >> I have an IQ of 135 !TARDwwOGcE 12/15/08(Mon)12:21:06 No.2447321
    fkin reading iz 4 fgts

    lrn 2 telewishn tards
    >> wat Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)12:45:22 No.2447520
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    >>2446968

    I have already read Heart of Darkness and Dorian Gray (loved the, the Wilde on a bit more).

    BTW, there are some other books that *are* on the list, that I nonetheless will read again. E.g., I had to read "Un amour de Swann" by Proust in high-school, like 3 years ago, but my French level wasn't sufficiently high to understand it in its entirety, so I just read it in German instead of French before the final exam. Now, I have been studying law in the French-speaking part of Belgium for the past 1 1/2 years, and I'm definitely planning on reading it in its original language.

    Concerning Kafka, I've read several short stories and the novella "Die Verwandlung (The Metamorphosis)", liked the mind-fucking of it and plan now to read all the rest. I actually bought "Das Schloss (The Castle)" 4 years ago, but still haven't read it.

    >>2447080

    My younger brother of 17 read it several weeks ago and also told me it was quite boring, but that there was a lot of standing around at classy parties. I like that. If it bores me too much, I can still put it away.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)12:45:57 No.2447524
    >>2447520
    CONT.

    >>2447091

    I, too, want to read the Divine Comedy (it's on my list). Too bad I don't speak Italian, so I've chosen the German translation, because it's the language I understand best (same for Niccolo Machiavelli's "Il Principe", "The Prince" in English, "Der Fuerst" in German).

    >>2447136

    Put it on the list, thanks.

    >>2447236

    I've actually read the German translation of "Umibe no Kafuka" (Kafka on the Shore, or Kafka am Strand in German). I enjoyed it, but this also was when I was about 17, so I might have been a bit young to fully appreciate it. Might re-read it.

    >>2447277

    How can I know what I'll like beforehand?

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    Link: Updated list of books in .docx (also added stuff not recommended by you, but which I encountered today browsing the net).

    http://rapidshare.com/files/173627825/Books.docx.html (can only be downloaded 10 times, apparently).

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    Pic not related, but she's very pretty.
    >> Anonymous 12/15/08(Mon)16:05:49 No.2449340
    buempehrino.


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