Robots tend to be younger... students, as evidenced from all the threads in the past days bawwwing about low grades...

>>2443377

True, but it seems like a bunch of people here are in education. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a few teachers or professors.

I am an ex teacher. I tought singing at a dance academy. Students were anywhere from 17 to 30.
I hated it. The pay was bad, the students uninterested and the whole school was one big cesspit.
Anyhting else you want to know?

>>2443426

That's an interesting gig... not particularly common. Why'd you choose to do it/how long did you end up teaching/what are you doing now?

>>2443436

I studied singing at the conservatory. I worked as a background singer for a reasnoably big star (where I live, that is) for 3 years untill I got fed up with the shalowness and the weird life and decided I would become a teacher in stead.
The problem was that I wasn't good enough to teach at a conservatory, so I got a job at a dance academy (where people were trained to become show dancers)
Singing was a compulsory subject for the first two years, but 90% of the students weren't interested in it at all and only were there for the dance classes, of course.
I taught for 3 years, now I am a singer again.

>>2443356

I'm not a teacher, but I'm friends with a few. They seem to be pretty happy, as long as you've got the right kind of students. They teach H.S., mostly honors classes with motivated students. Some of their peers teach grade-level classes. Not particularly thrilled.

>>2443461

Hm. Interesting history. Thanks for your response.

I'm heavily considering a teaching career. I believe that a proper public education is the first step towards a better America (and future in general). I'd like to get into government to enact better policies and education requirements, but I figure it's best that I start at the bottom rung and work my way up, so I have a better understanding when I do.

I'd probably do mid/high school in the maths, computers, or physics. I also have an interest in teaching history and/or government.

I taught music for a bit, and now I'm back in school getting a grad degree in music education. I do love teaching, especially when you get the right mix of kids.

In music, it tends to be better, just because you have kids who want to be there, and you can get rid of the assholes much more easily.

>>2443528

Me again. Honestly, if you have 1/2 a brain, /r9k/, please teach. Put in a few years. Consider it part of military duty. Balance out the idiot teachers that are only collecting a paycheck because they're too stupid to do anything else.

Remember that one teacher that gave a shit in your life, and do that for a few years. Please. It kills me to see so many mouthbreathers join the profession because they're too stupid to do anything else in life. If you're smart, motivated, and have a high bullshit tolerance (hell, you're in here, you should), please consider teaching for a year. Most states will let you get off with a quick emergency certification course, and teaching certification lasts a while.

>>2443569
Highly relevant:
http://www.zenmoments.org/my-favorite-liar/

>>2443569

You really want this bunch of illiterate emo-fags teaching?

I've considered teaching as a profession. I've done time with the Marines, got a medical discharge, and I'm now attending a reputable university. But everytime I think about it, it seems like it's meant to be a women's profession. Not that I look down on women, but that's just how I see it, and I ask myself "do I want to do that, or something more 'manly.'"

>>2443569
Shut up, will you? I'm an ex teacher, most ingrateful job ever.

>>2443618

Yes, shit like this. Be great, be brilliant. Make people think. Turn people into things other than the idiots they turn out to be.

I'm sleep deprived, so this is sounding more and more like a stupid rant, but in all honesty, you people are at least slightly creative and smart in here. All the idiot teachers you hated - do something about that. Make sure some kid looks back fondly on one part of his education.

Teaching sounds nice until you realize that it takes years of schooling, some ridiculous program to get you some kind of "credential", and then more schooling. After the entire ordeal is over you might understand why there are so many tight-assed, strict as a fucking nun teachers out there. They're indignant, and they should be. Not a single one of those classes you take teaches you how to be good with kids, or how to interact with students when they start fucking up.

>>2443673
Hey think of it this way. You can tell the kids how much you hate Hajis or try to recruit them for the military. and the school probably won't fire you because you're a Veteran.

>>2443680

Oh, it's absolutely the more ungrateful, shit-filled job ever. No respect, crap pay, and you get treated like you're as dumb as the kids.

But if real people, really smart people started doing a few years of teaching in droves, maybe we could break this God-awful cycle.

>>2443705
But...that is completely irrelevant to what I've asked. Also, I don't hate Arabs. Just some of them. And no way in hell am I going to tell anyone to join the military. Something people need to decide on their own.

>>2443718
Well, I did my share. No way I am going back in. Good luck changing the world.

>>2443673
Insecure.

I would love to teach. But the thing is that what I love most is just learning. I want to learn a lot of things, enjoy a profession, and maybe once I get all of that experience and knowledge take a break and pass down it down to the next generation.

By then I probably wont have high bullshit tolerance.

Maybe I could be a substitute teacher :D I remember that there was always that substitute teacher that was really interesting and always thought something out of the ordinary.

>>2443718
Changing the teachers isn't the answer, changing the system is the answer. It shouldn't be so buttfuckingly hard to get a credential to be a teacher that only the highest order of drones are able to do it.

>>2443737
In college, I was a tutor. Java and Calculus.

One of the best way to learn is to teach. Obviously, you want to have knowledge before teaching, but students will ask questions that you never thought of, or you have to really re-think something in order to explain it to others.

I learned a lot as a tutor.

>>2443724
Do what you want bro. What more manly of a profession is there besides being a soldier/OPERATOR OPERATOR. I mean, your profession is what you make of it.

I love it when the students have that eureka moment and they understand.

>>2443757

Oh, I agree. Getting a teaching certificate requires either dedication, or having nothing else of value in your life that you have time to do it. The whole "No Child LEft Behind" thing about getting "qualified teachers" simply made it so that only people who had hours to waste could be teachers. It had nothing to do with actual educational ability.

>>2443853

The only problem with getting that eureka moment (and discovery learning in general) is that there's no way to guarantee it will EVER happen. You can show some kids the same material over and over and over, and it will just never sink in, no matter how many millions of ways you present it.

>>2443865

>>discovery learning

oh shit, we have a real ed student here, throwin down lingo!

i just finished my first practicum. chemistry. shit was awesome.

still amazed by the spectrum of abilities in the class. bottom 5 couldn't even balance chemical equations for shit's sake.

>>2443784
I agree. Sometimes my understanding of "simple" ideas are tested when I try to teach it. It's a great way to learn.

>>2443893

I'm almost ashamed to have used that term in a thread. I'm the grad student from upthread. I didn't do education for undergrad, but just got into it for grad. I think it's best that way - I learned what I'm going to teach, and then I'm learning the best ways to teach it. I'm also starting up several music ed. research studies, so maybe my work will actual help someone else.

Congrats on finishing your first practicum. That wide disparity you see is something that's going to hit you every time you get in there.

>>2443853
You know there's that story about Albert Einstein and how he came to the theory of relativity from a daydream about sitting in a bus that was traveling the speed of light, and how if he was looking at a clock the time would remain the same.

I'm pretty sure he wasn't a student at the time, but I just like to imagine that lazy kid sleeping in his arms in math class who suddenly has a daydream like that and you see his head pop up, with his eyes wide open. Boom, theory of relativity in that epiphany he just had.

>>2443695

You don't sound like a troll but you are almost 100% wrong...

>>2443920

yeah, i'm in an after-degree program, so i've already got my bachelor's of science.

I also taught a 'non-academic' science class during the practicum. Quickest way to a) find your limits and b) learn how to manage a classroom.

>>2443931
He was probably a pretty bad student in university. He did come in second-last in his graduating class. The last place didn't even graduate.

>>2443695

I agree a little bit... not about being indignant, but about the classes.

My curriculum class was a fucking waste, my inclusion class was a fucking waste, my classroom management class was a fucking waste.

the only class that i even looked at after finishing the coursework was my assessment class. gotta learn how to write them test questions and shit!

I was a part time teacher while going to grad school. I taught high school level chemistry, honors chemistry, and honors biology at the end of my tenure.

Teaching is definitely an amazing experience. I only taught for two years but it was completely rewarding with the people I met and the kids I helped through to college.

Prior to teaching as a part time teacher, I was a substitute for a few months. It was pretty awesome if you had some work to do and wanted to get paid for it. I'd come to class with a briefcase of my own work and the actual teacher would usually have a handout for the class to do. I'd just sit there after most of the kids would finish what they needed to finish or whatever they were doing and then I'd write a comment about people who annoyed me. Usually I'd just throw my iPod on and do work. Some kids would ask what I was doing... I'd usually scare them off when I told them about my thesis. It was worth the $100 a day. I'd work 9 days out of the month and I'd have money for food and rent.

So if you're thinking about teaching, definitely go for it. It's awesome.

I'm a level thirty-seven teacher. I only need 284XP to get to level thirty eight!

I've tutored, and it depresses me. Then again, I was stuck teaching remedial students. I mean, there's nothing that can compare to how good it feels to really teach someone, to see them finally understand, but, at the same time, there's so many people who are unmotivated and frustrating to work with.

/r9k/ probably hasn't read Rookies, but it's a pretty kickass manga about a teacher. If I ever become a teacher, I'd like to be a teacher like the main character is.

http://www.onemanga.com/Rookies/1/01/

>>2444274

Who can forget GREAT TEACHER ONIZUKA?

I may not have actually taught a classroom but I have coached for a tennis team before. I have to say, that I would not nearly be as good at tennis or would I be as life-wise had I not done so.

I'd like to eventually be a high-school level history teacher. Right now I'm in college, though.

I'm glad to see that some /r9k/ folks are going into teaching, and maybe a few more actually considered doing a few year's service. As stupid as this sounds, I hope that we actually fix educational policy in this country, so that we aren't held to the fire by "No Child Left Behind," but actually by a set of standards that will help education and our society progress.

In all honesty, we've fucked it up for a lot of kids out there. A lot. Does the system need to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up? Maybe. Does that mean it can't be done? No.

I beat my ass up teaching for 2 years before I went back for my masters. I fucked some things up, I did some really awesome things, and there are still a few kids that ended up in college that still keep in touch. Does that handful of kids make it worth it? Maybe.

Most of you that are in college right now, and say you want to be theaters: let me tell you, it's going to be hard as fuck. You'll be paid nothing, you'll be yelled at by the administration, the students, and the teachers. It will be too much. They'll expect you to make magic right out of the box. The parents want you to be like that inspirational teacher in every teaching movie - except without making the kids do all that tough work. Administrators demand that you go over fucking standardized tests every day, question by question, arming them not for thinking, but for bubbling in sheets. Students? You'll have somewhere between 20-40 in your class, and they'll each demand a different thing. They'll all try to take up your attention at any given moment.

Don't get disheartened. Surround yourself with other young teachers who are positive. Support each other. Don't drop after a year (or less) because the assholes are trying to force you out. I won't tell you how many times I typed up a resignation letter and was within about 200 steps of the administration office to deliver it.

cognitive science ftw!

I'm a high school English teacher, actually. When I was student teaching, I got a big card signed by all the students in my 9th grade class and one of them drew a big, "shoop da whoop" face all across the bottom. I wrote Underage b& on his assignment I graded and we laughed about it later. All in all it depends on whether or not the school is making AYP. If they are, then you will probably enjoy teaching. If they aren't, you're going to be in hell for practically no pay.

>>2446407

The correct answer to that is to sharply slap him, tell him to never come here again, and to go out and be social. Never encourage someone who still has hope to come here.

i has papers for math teaching, but srsl i don't want to. maaaybe when ill be 50 and dont care but moneyz

I was a substitute teacher for a day once.

Put me in some math class but there was no lesson plan or anything like that so we played poker all day.

Was pretty fun.