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>The Twilight

Oh, I see what this is.

>>2418725

Well maybe you've been lucky picking the creme of the crop but when I randomly pick up a book it turns out to be pretty crappy.

>>2418708
1.nerds like books, books associated with nerds
2.people like to be perceived as smart
3.people read books

Movies > Books

you're good son, well played....

it's most likely due to the "looking at a bunch of words expands your vocabulary" belief

but honestly, I do think books are the better medium for giving you some intellectual stimulation. Films, at their finest, show you pretty pictures and provoke emotion, but books have depth beyond that.

simply that books are the least limited form of entertainement, ever seen a 8hour long film?Books can tell us much more than a film and are much more graphic and descriptive. Ever paused a movie to think about what it was trying to say?

It's perspective.

Bookfags think they have the best medium of entertainment and look down on other mediums
Moviefags think they have the best medium of entertainment and look down on other mediums
Video Gamefags are looked down upon by everyone because 90% of them are less than the age of 12
Poetry is only practiced by emos and liberal arts majors

>>2418777

It's actually a much greater form of stimulation and can have just as much depth as a book, more even.

Twilight was a horribly long book to read! 80% of the book was just a description of how handsome/beautiful so and so looks. It was akin to Robert Jordan and his needless description of dresses.

>>2418831

At the same time, I think it's much easier to be passive and get a lot less out of the experience when watching a movie than reading a book. Not to mention that almost anyone can write a book and publish; television, film, video games, all of these are relatively new technology that very few people can use to effectively convey the fullest extent of their story. And it's not even restriction due to talent; mostly money.

I think oral tradition is the highest form of entertainment, PLUS practical usage for retaining cultural history.

>>2418708
10/10 Excellent Troll, would Troll Again

>>2418859

I don't see how a story could be worse in a movie than a book, maybe you want to imagine it for yourself but that's basically making the book yourself. It's true that a movie doesn't have as much potential as a book but that books story would be better made into a movie.

Honestly, you vampires are not very cool at all. And books about vampires are pretty much as uncool as it gets. It made me feel very sick reading your post OP and this has been saged as a result, as a feeble defense against this attack on my intelligence.

There are many real books for people who think out there, but you wouldn't know, you've dismissed the grand majority of them and then you talk about that tripe. Oh please, find your wooden stake, and keep it very close to your heart.

Personally, I find books the best kind of entertainment, due to me having to imagine how stuff looks and works. OP is completely right about there being billions of absolutely shitty books out there, though.

And it's not like I hate movies, quite the contrary.. It's more that movies to me is a quick 2 hours or so of entertainment.. Generally, I don't find they give good character descriptions and since you rarely get an internal character perspective in movies (such as the thoughts of a character when shit happens), I have a hard time accepting the incredibly retarded stuff they sometimes do.

>>2418963

Wordplay that's not a part of the dialogue often gets lost in when a books being made into a movie. For example, most movies of Dante's Inferno/Divine Comdy can't capture the way he worked with language. And, in a sense, that was a theme in his journey. It's not so common anymore, but the way something is written can be just as important as the actual plot.

That's not to say that film doesn't have qualities that books don't have. The 5th Harry Potter movie > 5th Harry Potter book; J. K. Rowling isn't the queen of words, she just has a (really) interesting story.

>>2418965

I've read good books but they aren't Jesus fucking Christ in paper form, and every single one of them isn't great poetry and art although there are some that is, most are shit, you've obviously just been skimming through the shit and reading the good ones.

90% of all books are boring.

>>2419070

90% of all films are boring.
90% of all games are boring.
90% of all television shows are boring
90% of all comics are boring

And there are hundreds of thousands of each, so even if most of them suck, it's not like you'll run out of good ones.

Books are great.

Twilight however, is not. I'm reading it because there's going to be a class discussion on it and I want to tear apart some girls who can't grow up and think this is the greatest book ever.

So far I see signs of an abusive relationship and the whole book is rather misogynistic, I don't see why girls love it at all.

Twilight could have easily started off as a shitty movie or shitty TV series. And there are bad vampire movies and vampire shows.

Don't blame it on the medium, blame it on the creator.

>>2418980


Then the entertainment comes from your own imagination and not the book, reminds me of /a/ telling me Evangelion is so great because you get to make up your own explanation for the ending.

>>2419137

I agree with all your other points though.

I don't think that a medium of expression should be judged by the failure of its worst examples, but by the success and excellence of its best examples.

>>2419137

Not the person you're replying to, but you're agreeing with him or her, I think. A movie or TV series wouldn't let me imagine how someone or something looks.

A book (or a radio drama?) would.

Unless it's a picture book.

In which case, fuck.

Reading is exercise for the brain.

>>2419127

That's not my point.

>>2419091

I'd much rather play a bad vidya than watch or read a bad movie or book.

every time I stumble upon threads like this one it reminds me of who frequents /r9k/. i always swear to myself I won't come back, but it's the only fucking board that has general discussion besides /b/.

actually /b/ might be better.

>>2419159
>>2419159

I don't think you should have biased for a medium, I was just giving that example to say not all books are great.

>>2419219

If this thread is shit than it's no different than any other thread currently on /r9k/.

Go back to /b/.

>>2419216

Video games are kind of a different monster, I'll admit that was a bad example. I can ignore plot if I like a battle system, a good plot can be ruined by a steep learning curve etc.

But I will admit that less time is wasted on a bad movie than on a bad novel.

All you sagefags completely missed to point, I shouldn't have expected so much from the board closest to /b/.

Books are longer. There is only one person in production so it can be more personal, and ideas don't get lost along the way. Books are longer, and that is far more important than you imagine.

Think, two hour lecture on WWI versus a year course on WWI.

A writer can go much more in-depth about his ideas, than any other form of entertainment. A writer can develop his characters much further. A writer can use more beautiful and interesting language, without fear of being misunderstood.

That being said, I do think, that a good movie can far surpass a bad book. But no other thing will ever be as good as some books (except, maybe, life).

Books>films>comics>anime>other forms of TV>4chan

>>2419444

Ya, there should be longer movies that would be really interesting.

>>2419476
Completely agreed. IMHO every movie should be 4 hours+. Too bad the people that watch EPIC MOVIE LOL would never watch that, so no money, so never happening.

>>2419527

Ever tried making a movie? Making a LONG movie, 4+hours, takes a really long time, is very expensive, and is just difficult overall. Film students are typically limited to 10-15 minutes even on final projects. And that's with dirt-cheap production equipment and crew. It becomes an order of magnitude more expensive if you're shooting on film as opposed to digital - for a 10 minute movie film stock alone costs ~3k. And that's if you don't screw up and have to reshoot...

The lack of public interest in a 4+ hour movie is not the only thing killing the concept.

>>2419527
movies will fundamentally never be as expansive as any kind of the written word or even music because there are so many details. painters have more control. really, a director or a script writer could never pick out a set exactly how they want themselves, could never pick out the perfect actors ever, etc. movies have less control. in recording, there is more control, in electronic music more so, and there is a fair amount of freedom and power in painting, but in the written word there is no limit that can be transcended by conscious thought. not to say most books accomplish this.

books really are overrated, but they're still the best.

This is compared to television where about 0.5% of books are anything other than mediocre. It's purely averages Watson.

>>2418817
Poetry is an art form that is frequently slandered and for good reason. Real poets can be astounding, there are a lot of hacks though.

>Too bad the people that watch EPIC MOVIE LOL would never watch that, so no money, so never happening.
It's not so much the consumer as it is the theatre. The shorter the movie, the more movies they can show, thus more traffic and higher profit. Theatres bitched for years to get average movie length cut, and they got what they wanted.

90% of people who don't read books are idiots. Seriously, just read a book.

>>2421075

You're an idiot. What does that even mean? Which book? What the fuck, what kind of phrase is that? A BOOK? Like all the books are good? Like all books are equal? Like even the worst book in the world is better than any other piece of art made with another media?
Goddamnit.

>>2418844
robert jordon had a variety of characters creating the need for a strong mental image of them

>>2418748
Only a pretty dumb person would pick up a completely random book and expect to enjoy it.