saved that tumbled that

Sound advice, more people need to be told shit like that.

Jesus we live in a terrible fucking time.

>>237031
What's wrong with being gay? blox

>>237071

Well it's like being a teenager who dresses up like a vampire and thinks they're edgy and cool and no one gets them. All gays just do it for attention. It's all in their head.

>>236966
That can't possibly be a serious headline. Teachers are that stupid in Britain? Come on now, I actually respected you people.

>>237071

I think the idea is to not display socially unacceptable behavior. I know homosexuality is nothing wrong, but you think anybody will ever convince a bunch of dumb ass middle schoolers?

>>237086
>All gays just do it for attention. It's all in their head.
6/10. Raged quite a bit.

>>237099
He's right, I'm gay and acted like a flamboyant cunt in high school. I then realised that it's petty to define yourself by orientation and went back to my jaded old self. Your orientation does not alter your personality in any way, at heart it's all attention seeking.

>>237092
Just because it's difficult doesn't make it not worth attempting.

>>237088
>mfw I thought that was Bina from Lady but it was just Harisu

>>237117
You realize that your own experience doesn't prove anything? You did it for attention, good for you. Doesn't mean that all gay flamboyant guys do it for attention.

>>237099
He's telling the truth you fucking moron.
HURRR I GOT OWNED ON THE INTERNET SO I RATE HIS TROLL HURRRRRR

>>237117
Some people are gay AND flamboyant. Just because your personality was an affected one doesn't mean theirs are too.

>>237088

It's probably the Daily Mail, which is our newspaper equivalent of Fox News. I've seen worse headlines, most involving immigrants takin' arr jawwbs.

>>237071
Nothing's wrong with being gay.
Being gay is not the same as acting like an effeminate flaming poofter.

I don't care how many guys you want to fuck, just don't act like a exaggerated stereotype.
I don't like straight guys that act that way either.

>>237145

And utilizing your swans for nutritional value.

>>237145
>doesn't realize that excessive immigration floods job markets while providing little or no economic benefit
Don't be late for the bus.

>>237150
>I don't care how many guys you want to fuck, just don't act like a exaggerated stereotype.
>I don't like straight guys that act that way either.
>I don't
>I
>You

Your opinion isn't law, nor is it the opinion of everyone. There are people that adhere to stereotypes and there are people who don't. Many don't just adhere to them because they're actively trying to force themselves to be congruent with it, some just are that without trying or without actively thinking about it.

Or, you know, it's what makes them happy.

Just because you think something is reprehensible doesn't mean it is.

>>237171
>Doesn't realize that closing your borders to immigrants is not the solution to economic crises.

>>237189
Of course me not liking something does not make it reprehensible.

But, it does mean I will dislike it.
It's an opinion shared by many people.
It's like wearing a shirt that says "punch me in the face!" and then complaining when somebody hits you.

If you don't want to be bullied, don't attract attention to yourself.
If you choose to stand out, accept the consequences of this.
I'm pretty sure all children learn ths pretty early in their lives.

>implying faggots don't deserve to be bullied

>>237200
No, it's not. It's not a terrific idea to leave them open, either, for a lot of reasons.

>>237208
"Choose to stand out", huh? How about gay and straight guys that are flamboyant? Should they change themselves completely just to please faggots like you? You're disliking something for absolutely no good reason whatsoever, and then expect people to bend over for you? The world doesn't revolve around you.

>>237208
So the fact that your opinion, one that stifles countless students worldwide, is shared by many others makes it more acceptable to beat students based on their self-expression?

Allowing children to single out the gay kid and beat him up merely because he's feminine is rather fucked up.

Society needs to evolve and adapt to adults and children not adhering to antiquated gender roles and expectations as that is becoming more and more commonplace.

although funny, its a bit sad that teachers are resorted to telling kids to change their personality around.

>>237208
Oh and another thing. Your comparison makes absolutely no sense. Flamboyant people are not ASKING you to hit or bully them.

>>237219
So that leaves us with indecision about the border crisis and no way to properly identify the real problems facing the country.

I love our little talks, /r9k/.

>>237230
Except the point is that if you're being bullied, you should stop acting so flamboyant instead of expecting protection from someone else. That's what he's saying, that's what the headline is saying, and it makes sense.

>>237208
god i just want to smash your head into a curb

The problems in the UK at the moment probably stem from having a government determined to create a bigger upper-lower class split in a country that really can't afford to do that right now.

>>237254
The problem here is not his flamboyant behaviour, it's the bullies. If you've experienced bullying them you should know changing your behaviour after getting bullied for a while won't help.

the headline is pretty dumb but i can see where the teacher is coming from

keep your head down, dont attract attention.
bullying is wrong but stopping every bully is impossible. assholes will be assholes and the only way to make it easy on yourself is to try to make them not notice you.
its the type of thing youd tell any kid who is being picked on chronically.

>>237254
Stop being yourself and you stop getting bullied. IT'S JUST SO EASY!

You're fucking retarded. So are these teachers, who are supposed to prevent bullying. This is like the whole "don't get raped" mentality as opposed to "don't rape."

You are a first world country. Fucking act like it.

>>237230
>Should they change themselves completely just to please faggots like you? You're disliking something for absolutely no good reason whatsoever, and then expect people to bend over for you? The world doesn't revolve around you.

No they shouldn't have to change themselves to please people like me. But the world is full of people like me, if they don't want to "please us" then they can accept that they will most likely be bullied about it.

I dislike this behaviour because it offends my view of masculinity. There, I said it.
I'm sick of seeing little scene-haired tossers walking around.
It irks me.
Whether you accept this as a good reason or not, it is my opinion and the opinion of others.

>>237314
You're the problem, not them.

>>237236
You have missed my point entirely.

Bullying people for whatever reason is wrong.
What I am saying is that they are acting in a way which causes them to be bullied.

If they did not act like flamboyant homosexuals, they would not be teased for being flamboyant homosexuals.

>>237099
Aww...are you a flamboyant faggot too? Go fuck yourself...you people are a pestilence in modern society. No one needs you. I've had it up to here with homosexuals acting like royal cunts.

>>237339
No, I'm far from flamboyant and far from homosexual. I just can't stand stupid people and stupid statements. Homosexuals are no more useless than other people. And are more useful than judgemental, insecure assholes like you.

So many delicious tears in this thread. Are fags really so autistic that they can't adjust their behaviour to fit a situation?

Pic related, you wouldn't do this in Harlem.

>>237314
>I dislike this behaviour because it offends my view of masculinity.

Because every man must be a manly man Dirty Harry type, play football and talk a lot about motor vehicles.

They can't have well groomed hair, an atypical fashion sense or a feminine demeanor because it's just too damn offensive for me to bear. It challenges my view of gender so much, I've learned to hate it.

I hate this subgroup of homosexuals as much as the world hates me so I can justify myself to myself in the terms society gives me to work with because I'm too damn weak willed to think for myself and too ashamed to identify with and embrace others like me going through the same struggles.

I feel bad for you. You probably need a therapist.

>>237326
Once again, point missed.
It would be wonderful if we could all be super best buddies and skip through the flowers together.

That shit doesn't happen.
This is the REAL FUCKING WORLD.

It's their choice, change their behaviour or accept that some people are not going to like it.

And before you say "Nobody should have to change their personality because special snowflake!", if I, and almost everybody else on the planet, didn't restrain their "personalities" to fit the situation they were in, we would all be regarded as absolute wankers.

It is not difficult to adjust your speech, mannerisms and other behaviour when in a different social situation.

>>237245
>derpderpderpderpderp
No, you close the border, allow current residents to stay, and deny access to further illegal migrants. Only once it's secure can you decide on a proper policy, because otherwise you have no say in it either way.

>>237366
First of all, what business would you have in Harlem being that racist?

Second of all, if one is THAT racist, they're going to wear that sign regardless of tact, because that's who they are.

But now you have me digressing from the topic at hand after you likened flamboyant homosexuals with racists for some reason.

>>237375

why don't you change your behaviour..?

your obviously a prejudice dick whos had this vision of masculinity beat into you. chances are your dad is a retard and you'll follow suit. there is more than one way to live life.

>>237372
It's fucking annoying when a "man" acts like a airheaded teenage girl.
I hate when girls do that shit too.

Are you trying to tell me that nothing anybody does bothers you?

I can tell that I bother you.
How dare you persecute me for not fitting in to your ideal of a super accepting optimistic guy, who thinks everybody is a unique and wonderful gift to the world.

>>237389
> AUTISM
The point I was making is that you adjust your behaviour to fit with the accepted norms of a certain region. If you go against the grain you deserve to take a beating.

>I shouldn't have to change my behavior to fit in like everyone else, everybody should just accept WHO I AM!!!!11!!!!1!!!one!!

The butthurt, it's delicious

>>237392
How dare you suggest I should change my behaviour to fit into your ideal model of society!

>>237392
>taking it in the pooper
>lifestyle choice

>>237375
>It is not difficult to adjust your speech, mannerisms and other behaviour when in a different social situation.

This is correct.
If I went around acting however I wanted, which is apparently acceptable for flamboyant gays, I would have had the shit beaten out of me daily.

I change my behaviour so as not to have the shit beaten out of me.
I don't see why they can't be expected to do the same.

I have nothing against homosexuals, but I despise anyone who is flamboyant. If homosexuals want to become more accepted in society they should start by seperating themselves from attention whores and teaching the general public that not every gay person is like that...unless of course, they are.

wow, look at all these faggots hanging out on r9k

>>237409
It's not your opinion that bothers me so much, but your inability to study and better understand it coupled with your inability to see that lack of acceptance leads to more lack of acceptance. Causality.

You being a hater based on your preconceived notions of how people, specifically men (and now teenage girls) "should" act is rather immature.

Your opinion is your opinion, but should you and others thinking it's "fucking annoying" have anything to do with allowing bullying?

Some people like acting like that, some people like people who act like that, some people are born that way, just how you were born gay.

A lot of people don't like gay guys, should they be bullied for fucking men? I mean, nobody likes them, they're fucking annoying, getting into our society and corrupting it from the inside out with their birth-defect driven perversions.

Bigotry sucks doesn't it? The door swings both ways, dumbass.

>>237474
> your inability to study and better understand it coupled with your inability to see that lack of acceptance leads to more lack of acceptance.
I have not laughed so hard in a long time, please continue.

>>237463
You seem to have no idea how much I, and almost everybody else, has changed themselves to fit in to the societal norm.

I don't make these opinions of mine known in public because I know some people do not agree with them, and this would cause conflict.

This is no different to a flamboyant man acting like everybody else to avoid conflict.

Why is this a difficult concept?

>>237419
>If you go against the grain you deserve to take a beating.

Now I know you're trolling. Good effort, you almost had me.

>>237474
>You being a hater

Hater's gonna hate.
Every action you take is going to have a "hater".
If you don't wish to have haters, choose actions which bother as few people as possible.

I'm not trying to argue whether my opinion is wrong, right, or justified.
I'm trying to say that, no matter how bad you may think this is, if you choose to do things that annoy people, they are going to retaliate in some way.
Of course it would be wonderful if this wasn't the case, but it isn't, and it's not changing any time soon.

Oh yeah, I read this in the metro on the way to work the other morning. I had a little giggle to myself then realised I was on the tube and people were looking.

by gay they mean dont act like a queer faggot, have problems with some dude? Go talk to him , get shit straight , like a fucking normal human being , communicate with each other

I don't see what the problem is. I hate flamboyantly gay people.

I'll have to quote myself when I say "Just because you're gay, it does not mean you have to act like a faggot."
And in case you don't know what i'm talking about, how about this
"Just because you're Black, doesn't mean you have to act like a Nigger."

>>237513
Go to Iran and try disputing that then

If I was to walk down the street shouting out expletives, because I feel like acting that way, I deserve to get called out on it because I'm doing something that bothers people.
People are bothers by flamers.
Surely the flamers are aware of this, yet choose to be obnoxious.

>>237544
There are people that act flamboyant and there are people who ARE flamboyant. Do you know anything about bullying, by the way? Being less flamboyant after getting bullied for a while won't stop the bullies. And you can get bullied for not just how you act, but by having a "gay accent". This is just one example of the many things you cannot change and should not need to change.

"Just because you're gay, it does not mean you have to act like a faggot."

Self-hatred much? Some men are just feminine. Some women are just masculine.

Hating them for it is as pointless as trying to change them. Advocating violence against them is even more illogical.

Gays hating gays because they're too "gay."

THAT'S a hell of a concept.

You sound like idiots.

ACCEPT US, BUT DON'T ACCEPT THEM, OR THEM, OR THOSE PEOPLE.

Remember the gay kids back in school?

They were always uppity faggots.

Remember being in games/P.E with those guys. Never did a fucking thing just stood in the corner to gossip.

And of course those were the in-the-closet-but-we-already-know-except-themselves gays so you could'nt call them out on it or else they throw a hissy fit

>>237582
>gay accent
There is no such thing as a gay accent, people play it up.

>>237588
Yeah, all of those faggots are the same. Even the ones that act straight. "Masculine" they call it. Like getting fucked in the ass is masculine. Look at them, they even hate eachother.

Fucking burn in hell faggots.

>There are people that act flamboyant and there are people who ARE flamboyant.

Not the guy you're replying to, but as you can probably tell, I am an opinionated, obnoxious cunt.
I do not act this way in public because I know it would annoy certain groups of people.
Why should I have to change my behaviour to fit into everybody's ideal if flamboyant men shouldn't have to do the same.

Everybody changes themselves to some degree to fit into society.

>>237610
Show me where you take your facts from, please.

Bullies are just being themselves. How dare you ask them to change. You're clinging to antiquated ideas of a non-bullying society, don't you want our country to move forward

>>237610
Man, I'm a linguist.

I've wanted to do a study about the prevalence of lisps in the gay community for like 2 years, but the ethics committee keeps denying it. I want to know what the fuck is going on with that.

All the fags in this thread are so butthurt.

PROTIP: to avoid butthurt, don't shove cocks up your butt

>>237309
Oh, don't get me started on the "dont get raped" argument.

The problem I have with people who think it's a bad argument is that it's EXACTLY like those horror movies where there's a murderer about and some dumbass chick goes outside her house because she heard a noise IN HER UNDERWEAR.
Seriously. I'm *NOT* saying the killing is justified. I'm saying the VICTIM was not being defensive. And that's the point of this whole thread.
There's a time and a place for everything. School is not one of those places.

Another way to think about it is like at a workplace. I would love to curse like a sailor all day long. But in the workplace, that's just not cool. If I go into an interview, I speak a more proper English than I do amongst pals. I refrain from making innuendos. I don't use slang in a silly manner. Etc. Etc.

Same thing goes for gays. "Oh, but it's who I am."
YEAH AND I'M A CUSSING LOUDMOUTH ASSHOLE, BUT YOU DON'T SEE ME CRYING ABOUT IT.

>>237625
>Why should I have to change my behaviour to fit into everybody's ideal if flamboyant men shouldn't have to do the same.

There we go. Right there. REALLY look at that statement.

Protip: You don't have to, you choose to stifle yourself and your personality for the sake of pleasing others around you because you are too weak willed to be your own person. For this, you demonize flamboyant and feminine men for being the people they want to be. You work up so much resentment against them that it eventually becomes hate.

And here we are, watching you hate these people because they get to be something you're too afraid to be for fear of social reprisal.

That's actually kind of sad, man. I legitimately pity your cognitive dissonance. You'll figure it out one day. For now, I'll let you get back to railing away at me.

>>237628

Accents are learned, not innate. Unless you are suggesting homosexuals are exposed more to other homosexuals throughout their childhoods than they are to heterosexuals it seems absurd to suggest people with 'gay accents' cannot help how they speak.

>>237632
>Bullies are just being themselves.

Bullies are actively damaging the lives of people around them socially, emotionally and physically. This is the same reason why muggers and pedophiles aren't acceptable.

Flamboyant gay men/boys hurt no one.

>>237582
Yes. I had a couple bullies in my time.

Honestly, i understand once you're a target, it's kind of hard to stop being one.
BUT there's always hope for the future. Let them know before hand that they should try and fit in.
I had a couple friends in school who had that gay voice/slight mannerisms. Sure we teased him about it, but we teased everyone. I got shit talked about me because of my unibrow. I didn't fucking cry about it. I rocked it even into high school AND STILL MADE FRIENDS.

Again, there's a way to be an obnoxious person, and a way to go out asking to get your ass kicked.

>>237668
>You don't have to, you choose to stifle yourself and your personality for the sake of pleasing others around you because you are too weak willed to be your own person.

Guess what I've been doing in this thread?
That's right, I've not been stifling my personality.
Are you honestly telling me that you would rather every other intolerant person in the world walked around acting like a gigantic cunt because that's the real, unstifled them?

>you demonize flamboyant and feminine men for being the people they want to be. You work up so much resentment against them that it eventually becomes hate.
>And here we are, watching you hate these people because they get to be something you're too afraid to be for fear of social reprisal.
Stop being an armchair psychologist.
I find their behaviour irritating, in the same way I find a screaming baby irritating.
It just annoys me.

>>237694
>unibrow
ew

>Let them know before hand that they should try and fit in.

>Let them know beforehand that their lifestyle is socially unacceptable and any indication of that is justifiable as a reason to get bullied with little to no support from friends, parents or teachers. You are not normal. Try to act normal. For the love of God be normal. Why aren't you normal?

Self motherfucking loathing. Get help.

If you are though and dominant enough, you can act however you please in high school. Problem is that acting gay is almost by definition being overly feminine and speaking in a strange accent, which radiates weakness.

What's up with they way fags speak? I mean seriously, can anyone who speaks like that tell me why they do that? Where dit it come from?

>>237686
well physically hurting people isnt ok for any reason, but the other stuff? thats awfully bigoted of you. Really? Their personal feelings and beliefs are "damaging?" maybe you should just suck it up and deal with it. Some people think differently than you, welcome to the 21st century. 60 years ago you would have been one of the ones saying African American music was "damaging" our youth

>>237729
>Let them know beforehand that their lifestyle is socially unacceptable and any indication of that is justifiable as a reason to get bullied with little to no support from friends, parents or teachers. You are not normal. Try to act normal. For the love of God be normal. Why aren't you normal?

Welcome to how everyone else gets treated by society. You want equality? Deal with it.

>>237767
How are bullies and African American music at all related. One beats people up, the other is fucking music.

Straw man argument is STRAW MAN.

>>237791
Uh huh, that's how minority groups attained their civil rights. By "dealing with it."

Way to be in such a rush to give up and take it up the ass from the status quo. You people are pathetic.

>>237791
> You want equality? Deal with it.
/thread

The way the gays are arguing for their case is like someone expecting it to be OK for them to fart in a lift. Sure it may suit one person, but everyone else has to put up with your stinking shit.

>>237842
BUT IT'S NOT HURTING ANYONE!
SELF-HATING MUCH!?

>>237867
Neither is a fart in a lift.

It's annoying, but harms nobody.
Just like flamboyant guys.

>>237867

It is annoying when people act flamoyant.

>>237884
and it's not annoying for people to go around farting everywhere?

>>237888

It is annoying; I am agreeing with you.

>>237894
should it be socially acceptable for people to go around farting because they're just naturally gassy. Because they were born that way?

>>237842
>The way the gays are arguing for their case is like someone expecting it to be OK for them to fart in a lift. Sure it may suit one person, but everyone else has to put up with your stinking shit.

The real obnoxious part is the fact that gays listen to people who say that being publicly gay should be equated with something unpleasant and awkward AND AGREE.

That's pathetic.

>>237839
look I said physical harm is not ok. Calling you a faggot? Ostracizing you? They're just expressing themselves. They can't help how they feel, maybe you should be a little more progressive and accepting.

And I brought up rock music in the 50s because people said that the lyrics and dancing were "inappropriate" and would harm society, JUST like you're saying about bullies actions. It's time to grow up and accept people for who they are.

>>237931
Being publicly gay =/= being a flaming faggot

WHY DOES NOBODY UNDERSTAND THIS?

>>237931

Being gay pertains only to a sexual preference. There is no problem with this. Acting flamboyantly is a different matter.

>>237931
The POINT that you are missing is that SURE, you may love the smell of farts. There may be MILLIONS OF PEOPLE who enjoy that smell. But most people don't and if you go around spreading sulfur everywhere, or just coat yourself in it every morning because "it makes you happy" or WHATEVER, then don't be surprised when you get pissed on for being an idiot who goes into the jungle wearing a fucking meat jacket.

ITT: Butthurted beig mad.

>>237941
have you ever considered that what you call "being a flaming faggot" is actually just how they are?

>>237936
The force is strong at this one. Quality trolan.

>>237967

How is that relevant? You don't have to accept everybody for who they are, just because they're being themselves.

>>237967
Yes I have considered it.
I don't give a flying fuck.
I have also considered that everybody else changes something about themselves so as not to offend others,

I for example, do not walk around voicing the opinions I have shown in this thread, as it would annoy people.
I adjust my behaviour to suit the situation I am in and the people around me, like everybody else manages to do.

They can do the same.

>>237999
that's just you being a self-loathing cunt. if everyone just learned that being themselves was okay, people like you wouldn't be so angry.

>>237936
Sure people being assholes is expressing their right to free speech, but it doesn't make it right, just how running up to every black person on the street and screaming "nigger " in their face isn't right.

That's what's called hate speech. Although legal, it's reprehensible for obvious reasons. Or I guess not so obvious to you.

>>237958
Damn flamboyant gays, walking around being all themselves and whatnot. Talking to people and acting all flamboyant. Just being all feminine, living their lives trying to not be hated for who they are. How dare they.

>>237978
>I don't like the content of this post I better call him a troll

I thought your side was the one that DIDNT want bullying, have you ever even thought about how damaging your words might be?

>>238010
being angry is just being himself, stop bullying him

>>238010
Please explain how altering my behaviour in different social situations is self loathing?
It's common courtesy.

>>238013
>Damn stinking farters, walking around being themselves and whatnot. Talking to people and farting up a visible cloud. Just being all stinky, living their lives trying not to be hated for who they are. How dare they.
See, I can lie too. Especially the part about ACTIVELY TRYING NOT TO BE HATED.

>>238013
Oh wow so you're telling people to change the way they act JUST because it MIGHT offend some backwards regressive that can't accept them for who they are? Do you even listen to yourself? Words don't hurt anyone, what kind of pathetic, self loathing person would even think of that?

>people defending flamboyant gays

I bet these are the sorts of people that hate loud "girly girls" and wannabe comedians in their schools, huh

Me, I don't give a shit about any of it, but picking shit apart is fun.

>>238013
>for obvious reasons

That's not how logic works bro. Perhaps to some people, acting like a priss and talking about how much you like to suck dick is just as offensive as the word nigger to other people.

For obvious reasons.

sometimes acting more gay can benefit you. for example:
>"hey faggot bet you'd love to suck me off"
>"i think i'd rather fancy a bum with you instead and pump your virgin asshole with my big willy!"

try that one out kids, guaranteed alphaness awaits you.

>>236966
sound advise there

like anyone uses "gay" as a homosexual term anymore..

havent you learned this already? arguing with faggots is a waste of time, faggots are meant to be bullied.
to faggots, normal people aren't "educated" or "open minded" enough. can't blame them, faggots will be faggots and will like faggotry (they consider this "normal")

>>238065
>That's not how logic works bro. Perhaps to some people, acting like a priss and talking about how much you like to suck dick is just as offensive as the word nigger to other people.

HUGE difference between being flamboyant, talking about sex in public, and racist epitaphs.

If you can't draw the differences between these three things, this conversation is over. You're simply being bitchy and facetious. Either that, or you have some sort of learning disability.

>>238133
>epitaphs

Huh? Who died?

And all you ad hominem meandering says to me is that you can't think of a way to defend your position logically. This issue is clearly too emotionally charged for you to handle.

That said, words are words. They cannot hurt anyone. If you want to start arguing that certain words should not be allowed because of the beliefs they represent, well, maybe China or North Korea is a better place for you?

Oh Jesus Christ. This same advice can also apply to heterosexual folk who are perceived as gay by their peers. If teachers are not willing to actually help people, they should resign.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/8862247/Bullied-schoolchildren-told-to-act-less-g
ay.html

It's real and as a British man who had to suffer to idiocy of British secondary school teachers, I am not surprised by it at all.

I hate faggots. We shouldn't allow their behaviour.

>be constantly bullied through middle school
>start doing wrestling and boxing in high school
>nobody ever messed with me again and the ones that used to pick on me started doing this with other kids

Not being bullied is about being intimidating.

>>238223
Sorry for you being fag as a faggot.

>>238442

No, you just became a man. You dropped your limp-wristed faggot act and you're stronger for it. Revel in your straight manliness.

Being flamboyant has nothing to do with being gay, if you're straight noone complains when you're flamboyant.

>>238198
So I guess it's ok to have children screaming racist EPITHETS (I'm tired and multitasking), sexist and homophobic remarks at other young students? I suppose swear words are fine too? What about sexually explicit remarks?

Where do you draw the line?

On the streets, anything goes. It's up to the parents to teach their child tolerance of others. In schools? Students should be held to a higher standard than petty bigotry, hate and intolerance.

Are you advocating that male children who don't conform to the masculine stereotype SHOULD be subjugated to bullying, bigotry and blatant violence in schools? If not, why are you so apathetic about them not receiving help from faculty?

The ad hominems stemmed from my frustration with dealing with a complete idiot whose only logical defense is semantics and word games.

>>238494
>Don't conform to straight male stereotype as a gay man because it doesn't mesh with your personality
>receive hate from both straight people and gays for not hiding being gay better

This is ridiculous. Feminine men don't deserve to be hated. They do nothing wrong and they hurt no one. Simply being is enough to garner hate and violence? Huh.

>>237071
There is nothing wrong with being gay. But people (and especially those of the dumber kind) have a tendency to fear/dislike/hate people who are unlike them (i.e. gays, blacks, asians). Since this is a leftover from our survivor instincts back when we still needed them, it's a key part of human nature and unlikely to change during our lifetimes.

TL;DR people are dumb, deal with it

>>238601
It's understood that children and adults are intolerant of others for various reasons, but could it hurt to at least attempt to teach them not to be as opposed to apathetically letting the world eat itself, and minority groups, alive?

We've evolved past clubbing people on the head and dragging them to caves to reproduce, I think we can evolve past this.

>become gay
>automatically have to act overly-flamboyant and adopt a strange high-pitched voice with a slight lisp

Gays are okay, faggots I can't stand.

>>238642
>implying humans have actually evolved at all past that, and aren't just cavemen with more precise boundaries and a lot of pretend morals and etiquette, stuffed together in groups that allow them to create things they are not even close to ready for

>>238692
Eh, what's wrong with guys acting like 'faggots', anyway? They're basically just acting like a mix of a girl and a guy. They still have opinions and hobbies and shit, as both guys and girls do. Still perfect friend material.

Nothing wrong with the headline. People that act gay have a higher propensity to be bullied than those that do not. I don't see what the issue is.

homosexuals are to be respected like heterosexuals.

faggots are to be disrespected like all other people who act/are obnoxious

>>238549
>Students should be held to a higher standard than petty bigotry, hate and intolerance.

"Higher standard" is a dangerously subjective description. Who defines what a higher standard is?

>Are you advocating that male children who don't conform to the masculine stereotype SHOULD be subjugated to bullying, bigotry and blatant violence in schools?

In a perfect world no one would have to deal with opposing view points, but in the real world, there ARE opposing viewpoints and there's simply nothing you can do about it. Some people don't like gays. Sorry. You can't control people's minds just because they disagree with you.

And you keep bringing up violence. This will be the 3rd time I have said violence is never justified. Please do try and pay attention.

>If not, why are you so apathetic about them not receiving help from faculty?

Nobody helps nerds when "being themselves" is outside the norm. Nobody protects the shy girl in the corner who gets berated by the "pretty" girls for not having a boyfriend and not showing enough skin. Nobody else gets special help and multimillion dollar ad campaigns about how bullying is bad and their lives will get better. You think people should be treated differently just because of their sexual preference? Some of us believe in equality.

>The ad hominems stemmed from my frustration with dealing with a complete idiot whose only logical defense is semantics and word games.

I'd imagine that would be difficult to deal with. I'm sorry someone was doing this to you, that's why I stick to logic and Socratic method.

Like I said this all seems like a very emotional issue to you. You need to calm down and approach it objectively if you actually want this conversation to go anywhere.

The most irksome thing about this headline is that it's advertising to the whole world that parents cannot teach their children how to behave properly and teachers do not have the power to discipline them for acting out of line.

And people are just okay knowing that. No one is going to strive to be a better parent and no one is going to rally for people in a position of authority to get the power they need to repremand these children for abusing other kids. Instead they're forcing these children to deal with the problem themselves and, while it is ideal they learn to handle a bad situation, they aren't likely to know just what options are available because they're just kids.

It is disgusting to place all the responsibility on these homo kids because it's saying that bullying is perfectly fine in comparison.

All the people bitching... YOU go be a teacher in the UK and we'll see how good you are at making children into the obedient, socially-conscious, treehugging, politically correct little angels you want them to be.

>>238931

But, yet, when sexual education comes up, I'll just bet you you're all in favor of handing out condoms to kids because parents and teachers "cannot properly discipline kids for acting out of line", isn't that right?

>>238931
that's how bullying has been handled for the past 100ish years of the modern school system

Why should it be any different for gay people?

>be a girl
>use that stupid voice, go on about fashion shit, be very simply incredibly feminine
>nobody gives an eighth of a shit, it's expected and encouraged

>be a guy
>use that stupid voice, go on about fashion shit, be very simply incredibly feminine
>I cannot be friends with you, even though I am friends with the girl in the first description! You are weird and disgusting and a faggot, which is terrible!

>>239056
I hate women like that

>>239064
Yes, but you're the sort of person who goes on 4chan, so nobody cares. The attention these girls get is from normalfags.

>>239064
You hate women who are feminine... and into fashion.

What?

>>238964
How is teaching children not to hate/bully one another at all related to preventative measures in case children don't commit to abstinence?

>>239123
no, that voice and that overly feminine shit, makes them look like dumb sluts

>>239147

Bullying makes children ready for the real world

Would you rather have a kid who gets his shit set straight in school and then sorts themselves out, or a kid that's treated like a special flower who's always right in school who will get fucked to death in the real world when he gets or tries to get a job?

Bullying is a system that works and provided it isn't too extreme I'm fine with it.

>>239828

This. This so much.

I don't know why we raise our kids to be such pussies.

>>239893

Because of liberals

>>239828
What a load of bullshit. Here's a better solution: punish kids if they bully so that they learn not to bully so that when they're adults they don't bully so that there's nothing to prepare for.

>>240267
most bullies have abusive parents and aren't going to be affected by anything you can (legally) do to them as a teacher/school admin.

The world has shitty people in it. That's how it is.

>>240300
Then take them away from their parents and put them in a better place. Require parenting lincenses from now on.
>illegal
Not if we change the law.

I am gay. I've been gay since school.
Why should I have stopped acting gay?

That's discrimination.
Why don't the teachers tell the foreign pupils to stop acting so foreign?

Also, I believe this is discrimination towards people who aren't gay but are gay in their eyes.
There is a divide, some are gay and some aren't; I wouldn't like to be called straight, as with some people don't like being called gay.

BURN THE SCHOOLS

>>240318
And btw.
>That's how it is.
If it were up to people like you we'd still be living in caves. You aren't supposed to accept shitty things. You're supposed to fix them.

>>240326
>Why should I have stopped acting gay?

To fit in.
Everyone does this and if you don't want to, don't.
Just don't cry when you get bullied

>>240360
There shouldn't be bullies full stop.
The whole point of school is to learn.

I can easily say I learnt more outside of school than in.

>>240318
yes change the law so we can physically hurt children that are being abused at home. Surely that will help the situation.

And your other idea is a totally proportionate response to the possibility that some fag will get his poor little feelings hurt.

Kids are mean. To everyone. It's not exclusive to homosexuals and it's frankly insulting to everyone to act like it is.

Does the newspaper mention if they're foreign or not?

>>240360
>Why should I have stopped bullying?

To not be punished.
Everyone does this and if you don't want to, don't.
Just don't cry when you get punished

Superior

>>240384
>hurt children
>take them away from abusive parents
Dohohoho. Good one anon.

Be honest at least. This is about the parents' right for you. You think that if you manage to spawn that you should own the spawn and be able to do anything you want with it. Don't pretend you care for the child.

I don't have anything against gays/homosexuals. I can't, however, stand queers and faggosts that act and squeal like little girls.

>>240334
you can't remove shitty people from the world, period. It's like the laws of physics, that's just how the world works. Even if you magicked away everyone who committed a thought crime agains gays, something else would take the place of being the shitty part of life because that's how the human brain works. It's all about perspective.

>>240406

Was just about to opst the same, Fair enough if you are gay, but don't try and be a fucking girl

>>240404
i think we somehow misunderstood eachother somewhere along the line because you are not responding I anything I was talking about in that post

>>240418
We can put people in jail. We can't put gravity in jail. By your reasoning we should just accept killers and remove all murder laws. After all, we'll never be able to completely remove murders so that means we might as well make it legal.

You complacent, defeatists POS.

>>236966
I am gay, people knew at school.
I'm effeminate in some ways people would bully me in general. Geeh, I pulled other kids about, although I wasn't that malicious.

In middle school there was this kid who carried a knife. I was unsure what to do so yeah I didn't scream like a woman or anything but I'm just going to say. The schools ARE NOT doing their job properly and the amount of bullshit they keep putting out is pathetic.

Kids, especially ones slightly younger than the bully, are very unlikely to know what to do to defend themselves. It's nothing to do with them being gay or acting queer.

This is sheer homophobia.

>>240379
but there is. There shouldn't be murders and rapists but there are, that's reality for you.
If you can't handle it just quit.

>>240443
What do you mean by hurting the children then? Do you think the only way to punish them is to beat the crap out of them?

>>240326

>Why should I have stopped acting gay?

Because being gay is about liking boys, Not pretending you are a girl.

>>240491
But there's a duty in the police to stop such things.
There's a lot less murder[er]s and rapists than there was several centuries ago.

If the teachers can't see the obvious that a child is being bullied they should not be working.
It's their duty to teach kids not let them become frail through bullying.

>>240497
Prevention is best cure.
Ever realised how there was a lot less bullying in the 1940s? They used whip kids into shape that's why.

Plus, they were far more intelligent.

>>240476
no, the point is you can't remove all bad people so you have to draw the line somewhere and somewhere before "he said something mean :(" is a decent enough line especially when your solution is apparently have all children raised by state approved and licensed parenting practices to make sure nobody has any thoughts that might hurt someone's feelings.

What's so special about gay people that we have to completely remake society just in case someone makes a joke about them?

>>240513
But you don't know what homosexually implies?

>>237189
Not that guy, but your opinion that faggots shouldnt be persecuted for being faggots isnt law either.

>>240497
the only thing that's even going to affect that kind of kid is that, but of course that won't change anything about his behavior

A kid that's whipped daily by his drunk dad isn't going to give a shit if you send him to detention.

>>240548
>especially when your solution is apparently have all children raised by state approved and licensed parenting practices
Ding ding ding. Here we go. It's the parents should be able to do whatever they want with their spawn argument.
God forbid we put any kind of quality control on parenting!

Thanks for playing but you're transparent as fuck.

I'm gay myself, but some gay people are enough to make even me a homophobe.

Being gay shouldn't affect your personality, Just who you are attracted to.

To all my lovely gay people out there:

Me and my fellow black peers dealt with bullying in Nashville, Tennessee. Want to know our secret? Push through and stop acting like a little bitch. You're not special and nothing you say is going to make you any less of a juicier target. Prevention can only go so far. People are people and they will act like cunts at the smallest chance given.

Just stop being such a flaming faggot.

>>240387
Bitch, please
You think people get punished for not stopping bullying?

>>240533
Yes, there are policemen and teachers because obviously things like this shouldn't be happening. Yet these things happen, it's just the way things are. Where are trying to state here?

>>240700
>there wouldn't be any more murders or rapes if we made it legal. they amount would stay the exact same

>>240577
child abuse is already illegal bro. The only reason to implement some bullshit parenting license is because you want to control the way everyone is brought up to think. What happens when the other guy gets elected then? Gay? License denied. Approve of gays? License denied. Disapprove of the practice of denying people a license for disagreeing with me? DENIED.

assembly line child rearing isn't going to work any better than the assembly line education system we have now. It's would just completely homogenize and stagnate human social development because now instead of just raising your kids with new progressive ideas you'd have to fight the licensing board to get the law for the entire system that everybody has to follow changed. Except that desire would be completely absent in you because your parents wouldnt have gotten a license if they raised in a way that let you think for yourself.

"parenting licenses" is a regressive idea and a huge back door for whatever asshole in power at the moment to brainwash a whole generation.

>>240579
fucking this

I've met many gay people who were total bros, but then I've met the other kinda gay people the flamboyant annoying valley-girl wannabe kind and I just want to punch them in the face because they annoy the shit outta me

>>240700
They should work harder.
Somethings are just too bloody obvious.

You're all shit-eating morons.
Every fucking last one of you.

>>240709
>dey's gunna take my children because I dun agree with da agenda
>the fact that I treat them like shit has nothing to do with it

>>240740
>Implying you can take a beautiful girl and hide her away from the rest of the world.

>>240773
typical

treating them like shit is already illegal, and I'm not arguing to change that. there is absolutely no reason to implement a licensing system for that reason. Not to mention it would be 100 times more impossible to enforce. What do YOU think this hypothetical parenting license would do?

http://gawker.com/5675734/british-teen-boys-just-cant-stop-kissing-each-other

fagfag here, lol'd hard.

That aside, I really hate femmy gays.

>flamboyant homosexuality
They can't choose how they want to be! They should be allowed to up-play who they are without discrimination!

>having a personal opinion
YOU'RE A DIRTY ASSHOLE WITH DADDY ISSUES I'M GONNA JUDGE THE FUCK OUT OF YOU LOOK AT MY DOUBLE-STANDARDS LOOK AT THEM

faggots gonna fag

ITT: independent thinkers with insightful ideas on social norms and homosexuality vs. Special Snowflake gays

>>242980
nono they should be able to have an opinion, but that opinion should be personal and should not affect the way a school treats it's students.