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    1.62 MB Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:13:09 No.2157200  
    Hey /r9k/, I know this isn't /adv/, but I thought you might give me some better answers and provide higher quality discussion. So here goes.

    How does a friendless NEET loser who's post-college (late twenties to early thirties) make friends from scratch and generally turn his life around into something worth living?

    Thanks!
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:15:05 No.2157204
    >>2157200
    protip: you can't.

    its too late now.

    inb4 bunch of normalfags telling OP he has to use drugs/go to therapy/man up. nothing of this shit works. you can only expect a miracle OP.

    same situation here.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:17:21 No.2157219
    well, I'd suggest to move into antoher city.

    there you take a job and start hobbies, and can blame your lack of friends on your moving.
    (you moved because your old job was shitty or whatever)

    so nobody would think you're that awkward i guess.

    but what do i know, I'm just 19, sorry.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:18:05 No.2157220
    Volunteer/ go to clubs/ find a sociable hobby/
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:19:18 No.2157224
    There's some 30-year-old in a bunch of my classes at my university. It's not a big deal.

    If you go to community college, take 21 credits a semester and get all A's (which isn't hard at a CC), you can get into any Ivy you'd like.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:19:21 No.2157225
    You're fucked. Because when your life steers this far out of the norm, you can never return. There's no way to reboot it, no way to fix your past mistakes, you basically have 10 years of going in the wrong direction behind you, and to fix that, you'd have to spend 20 years going in the right direction at double speed just to catch up with the average Joe.

    You have to have friends to make friends, you have to have money to make money, you have to have a social backing of some sort to support you in all your endeavors... if you have nothing, you can't get anything really, short of someone taking pity on you and rebuilding your life for you (which won't happen) or some similar incredible stroke of luck.

    All that you were supposed to build up until now, you didn't, and you have no foundation to build things you're supposed to build in this part of your life, you'll always be an outsider, shunned, ostracized, looked upon as a creepy friendless loser, that's just human nature and the tribal instinct. No matter where you go and how you try to fit in, this will follow you.

    Sorry dude. You're fucked.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:20:26 No.2157229
    >>2157204
    >same situation here.

    Have you considered that perhaps being in the same situation makes you the least qualified to give any advice?

    Listen to people who turned their lives around, OP, not someone who's caught up in the same self-defeating spiral as you.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:21:14 No.2157232
    find out what your interests are.
    do you like art?
    go visiting art courses and shit and you will meet new people
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:21:47 No.2157234
    Same situation here. I shall monitor for any gems of advice, but I fear it's too late for us.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:22:02 No.2157237
    FFS how difficult is it to get a job and make friends at work?

    I fucking hate NEETs. I hate NEET losers even more who complain they can't make friends when all it fucking takes is to stop being a creeper, get the fuck out of the house and socialise.

    If you're not willing to do that, then just fucking kill yourselves already.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:23:33 No.2157245
    >>2157232

    the problem is, that when you meet them and they find out you have no social contacts they think you're an awkward loser.
    I assume that they'd at least subconciously try to avoid you.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:24:32 No.2157251
    >>2157229
    have you considered that NOT being in this situation completely invalidates your advice?

    its as if a blind person was triying to explain colors to a newborn child
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:25:15 No.2157254
    1. hygiene. wash your ass. Wash your clothes. keep the beard under control. Brush your teeth and wear deodorant.
    2. look people in the eye. Smile. Nod.
    3. Carry yourself like you belong there. Don't walk, stride. Think calm and confident.
    4. Comport yourself with dignity.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:26:43 No.2157258
    I honestly think you really need to sit down and think about what you are unhappy about with your life. Write down a list of all the things that make you unhappy. Then pinpoint what the cause of these problems are. Don't be too hard on yourself (eg. I'm a loser, its because I suck) and don't make excuses either. Then figure out a way to tackle said problems. Take baby steps. Some people have a real problem talking to people, or leaving the house. Go for walks if that is the case. If it is self esteem related, buy some clothing that you feel you look good in. Have a shave, and get a haircut you like. Motivation is a bit trickier. You just got to keep pushing at it, a little bit each day. Keep a tally of all the good things and progress you have made. Baby steps. Any progress is good progress.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:28:37 No.2157268
    >>2157251
    Not a poster you're replying to but just fucking read what you just typed, dumbass. You're saying that losers should teach other losers how NOT to be losers?
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:29:04 No.2157271
    >>2157251
    There's a difference between not being in that situation and not ever having been in it.

    Believe it or not, there are people who got tired of being sad and alone, went out of their comfort zone, put in a little effort and are now more satisfied with their lives.

    It's like teaching someone to drive. Don't over complicate this.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:29:34 No.2157273
    >>2157251
    You are ignoring the guy's point. OP should be listening to former NEET's, not NEET's like yourself who have given up all hope.

    Your analogy is retarded by the way.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:31:13 No.2157283
    >>2157271
    >Believe it or not, there are people who got tired of being sad and alone, went out of their comfort zone, put in a little effort and are now more satisfied with their lives.
    Those are people who were in the hole voluntarily then. Because if you're not, you can't get out of it. If you could fix everything by just "putting in a little effort" your problems were meaningless in the first place.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:31:39 No.2157284
    Finding "The Well Cultured Anonymous" was the starting point for me. I'm still a loser, but at least I feel as though I have some direction now.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:32:31 No.2157287
    >>2157245
    yeah the key point is to make it look like you are not a total failure.

    tell 'em something like after you graduated from school you just lost contact to 'em and this is how things went.

    or if you need to find people who are atleast as social awkward as you try meeting people from the internet.
    maybe there are some people in the same place you live in, you will probably share at least one interest and you start basically from the same situation(being a failure at life)

    but if you find likeminded people they will accept you anyway(one of the reasons you have no friends could be exactly this: you didn't find people who you have much in common with you but you have gotten along with those people and the reason you don't see 'em anymore is because after all you are too different)
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:34:29 No.2157297
    Late 20s/early 30s is when having friends and partying 24/7 end. It's time to sit in that cubicle from 9/5 for 30+ years.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:37:18 No.2157317
    >>2157297
    >>2157204
    >>2157225
    this

    >only 3 posts stating the truth
    >billion replies from normalfags telling OP to go lift or to be someone he isn't

    /r9k/ has changed...
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:38:57 No.2157326
    >>2157317
    i am not telling him to change himself.
    i am telling him that he needs to find out what he likes and find a way to meet these kind of people(through courses and shit for example).
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:43:07 No.2157346
    >>2157297
    That's a pretty broad generalization but for the most part it's not too far off from the truth.

    Having a 9-5 job doesn't mean you won't have time to party or socialize. Hell, what I've noticed is that people who have 9-5 jobs have plenty of free weekends to spend them with good company. Even more surprising, people who work longer hours (albeit not confined to cubicles) tend to party even harder.

    If you're smart with your time and money, you can still spare enough of both to enjoy yourselves.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:45:30 No.2157359
    >>2157317
    It's been invaded by normalfags.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:48:30 No.2157374
    >>2157346

    But at that age people already have well-established social circles and are starting families and what not.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:49:09 No.2157384
    >post-college
    First off, does this mean you have some sort of a degree?

    Anyway. This is all tried and true advice that's NOTHING you've never heard before. You just have to go out and do it, accepting that at times it will be terrible, and most of the time you'll be fucking terrified and there's nothing you can do about it instead of going forward. It should obviously get better with patience, time and practice.

    1. Get a job. Obviously, this is probably the most important step. I don't care what job, any job (although it would be nice if it involved being around living people). It doesn't matter and obviously you can't be picky. Even though you'll probably hate it, just having something to do instead of reading 4chan 24/7 should be huge step and should make you just a little bit more proactive and confident, even if a long way from normalfag tier. You'll learn to handle responsibility and you should make some interpersonal connections. Just be polite and smile. Don't be too weird, don't talk about creepy internet stuff, don't participate in any workplace drama and you should be fine.

    2. Work on your hygiene and clothing. There's really no reason to assume that as a NEET you're necessarily a fat greasy neckbeard, but if you are, do something about it. Cut your hair, shave your face, shower, wash your clothes.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:49:13 No.2157385
    Geez, posted this in the wrong thread at first!

    Anyway! Hobbies. Ones that can be social.

    Never got me particularly far because eg. I'm a musician but I'm private about it. I go as far as tutoring in music but that isn't a means of making "mates" type friends.

    But a while back... I developed an interest in motorbikes. Got onto a good bike forum with plenty of members in my area and whilst I haven't gone on one of the group rides (shit like having to work and wanting a bit more confidence for the more challenging rides) yet, I will soon enough and there'll be plenty of social-ness to be had. The staff recognise me at some of the bike shops and stop me for chats when I've come in just to quickly grab something and be on my merry way. It's great.

    I'm not actually friendless but the above was a great example to me of finding social activity in other ways to what I'm used to (friends from high school, uni, whatever).
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:49:28 No.2157386
    >>2157284
    That guide is superficial at best. Most of the stuff are pretty much quick-fixes or "band-aids" and does little help on your social skills in the long run. I'd recommend this one if you really want to have decent social skills.

    http://www.succeedsocially.com/

    I used to be super reserved and awkward when I was in my late teens. This site helped me a lot on how to interact with people, and I made friends easily using the takeaway lessons from the articles and shaping them with my own experience with people.

    I'd also recommend "How to Win Friends and Influence People". Pretty basic stuff, but the book sells even today for many reasons.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:50:10 No.2157392
    >>2157384
    3. Start exercising. /fit/, sticky, etc. Not for appearance but for your own well-being, exercise is the best fucking anti-depressant and, again, it keeps you off 4chan.

    4. Socialize. Never say no to a chance to go out and meet new people, especially since they're going to be so sparse in the beginning. People you know from work should get you started, if not, pick an interest, try to find some people that are into that and go to some meetings.

    Oh, and try to spend your free time outside the house, fuck, just sit on a bench in the park and read if you have nothing better.

    5. Try to up your qualifications. Take some classes in a community college, or some courses... You're probably a nerd so you could try and specialize into, say, computer repair since you already know everything you need to know, just get certified and look for a job that's just a little bit better. Or something, obviously I don't know you well enough.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:51:21 No.2157402
    >>2157374
    Haven't you considered people moving away from those well established circles to form new ones (e.g. moving across opposite ends of USA for work and stuff)?

    That's loser talk, man.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:53:26 No.2157419
    >>2157384
    >>2157392
    this guy sums it up pretty well.
    seconded

    (captcha: "7 turdsr ", lol)
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:57:04 No.2157442
    >>2157317
    >>2157359
    >invaded

    There's always been normalfags. Your incessant wallowing in self-pity is what transformed the original /r9k/ into something so pathetic that moot had to take it out the back yard and shoot it.

    Shut the fuck up. Yeah, okay, you're not feeling so well. That's not a reason to put down somebody who actually wants to turn his life around. If you really have no hope, just kill yourselves and let people like OP try and find something he enjoys in life.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)11:58:07 No.2157448
    >>2157402

    I mean at late 20s/early 30s people are settling down and entering the post-college career phase. They already have friends and shit going on so the OP is going to appear needy and awkward.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)12:00:18 No.2157461
    Anyone actually enjoy being a NEET?

    Once you get out into that "real world" and see how shitty and depressing it is you'll wish you stayed in that basement.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)12:00:38 No.2157462
    >>2157448
    not everyone has shit going on.
    after i graduated from school i lost all my friends.
    my best friend went kinda psycho and tried to kill himself more than once(he never told me) and i have never been very close with the other people from my class since we didn't have much in common.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)12:14:36 No.2157570
    >>2157200
    I have those speakers and that keyboard.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)12:25:53 No.2157683
    >>2157570
    this is why OP made the thread, to show everyone his battlestation
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)12:32:04 No.2157720
    >>2157386
    Thanks anon, I'll check it out.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)12:46:09 No.2157833
    >>2157386
    if this really works they should make a sticky for it on /r9k/ so everyone who is socially awkward will stop talking about it
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)12:47:08 No.2157846
    >>2157833
    There's a difference between being socially awkward and having no friends and no life. Socially awkward people can still have perfectly normal lives and relationships.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)12:48:19 No.2157853
    >>2157846
    true but this sites seems to address at least some problems of socially awkward people
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)12:49:46 No.2157863
    ITT: normalfags thinking robots can change 20+ years of social fuck ups, bullying, phobia, and rejections in a few months with some stupid guide that tells you to be yourself unless you suck, in which case don't be yourself.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)13:14:27 No.2158069
    It is possible. I went from having 0 friends in high school to having a decent group of friends in college. I ended up ditching most of them when I moved back home after graduation.

    The biggest thing that helped me was finding a group of people that had similar interests. In high school I was the only person interested in math/science/engineering while everyone else was interested in marching band and sports. I got into college and suddenly there were many people who had similar interests.

    You need to have some common interest with people. In the US the best common interest you can have is football. Seriously, keep tabs on trades and the draft, watch 20 minutes of sports center a day, and try to catch 1 or 2 of the big games every week during the season. With that you can talk to just about anyone on the street, and have a decent conversation.

    Another thing to do is become a regular at one of your local bars. Do that and keep up with sports and your are golden.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)13:24:19 No.2158183
    >>2158069


    this is exactly why i never was really good friends with everyone in my old class except for one person.
    that is why i want to meet new people with common interests.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)13:39:55 No.2158336
    >>2158069
    so basically, like what others like and do what others do.

    yeah, i think im going to stay alone...
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)13:40:25 No.2158341
    >>2157863

    Well for alot of normalfags they assume that hyjiene and neckbeardedness is the the issue. The main problem for me is that you can't easily get over years of exclusions or rejection .
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)13:42:05 No.2158355
    >>2158336
    no.
    you are implying that no one has the same interests as you.
    you just need to find other people who have the same interests.
    this has nothing to do with changing yourself.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)13:46:16 No.2158391
    >>2158355
    yeah see, the problem is, my interests are not normal, you don't find people who like the things i do arround the corner.

    but you do find people who like what everybody else likes everywhere, and by "what everybody else likes" i mean your average joe stuff, sports, beer, clubs and parties are the first things that come to mind.

    i only have 1 sort-of-friend who shares my interests and hes too busy having a better group of friends than me and several girlfriends to even spend time with me.

    your mind cannot fathom how fucked up i am when it comes to socialities.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)13:51:12 No.2158433
    >>2158391
    i knew someone like that too.
    just to give you a heads up but your friendship will probably end sooner or later.
    at least that is what happened to me when my best bro became a member of a left winged politcal youth group. he met new people and he happened to make sports everyday(already before i met him) which is the reason why girls kept asking telling him that they have feelings for him. this guy was a bigger nerd than me.

    i am also not interested in the usual sstuff most people are interested in nowadays. i hate going to clubs and i hate sports and the taste of beer.
    you know what? there are still people out there who will have the same interests i have. you just need to know where to look for them.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)14:10:25 No.2158582
    >>2158433
    yeah what do i do? internet meetings are fucking retarded, i've been to several, do i wear a huge sign stating the things i like while going around?

    im too tired to keep triying, i've tried enough.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)14:15:40 No.2158626
    >>2158582
    if you like cooking stuff go to cooking courses for example.
    go to place where you know that there are people with the same interests as you.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)14:17:41 No.2158644
    >>2158626
    i did, they were all fucking retarded, have you ever gone to an anime convention?
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)14:35:33 No.2158795
    >>2158644
    nope.
    i am not into anime
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)14:50:44 No.2158937
    >>2158644
    If you have no friends, you pretty much have to associate yourself with the craziest creepiest stinkiest people ever, since you're on their level, socially. Well, worse actually, since they have friends and you don't.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)15:21:39 No.2159185
    >>2158937
    >>2158795
    exactly.

    im fucked up in another level.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)16:19:08 No.2159583
    >>2159185
    Does the thought that you must basically beg for friendship from the lowest of the low (anime hambeasts and such) ever make you suicidal?
    >> 583746208 04/18/12(Wed)16:30:19 No.2159664
    >>2157237

    ...which is ironic cos I FUCKING HATE NEET HATERS.

    why? Cos they're usually TORY / CONSERVATIVE PRIVILEGED SCUM RACIST FUCKSTOPPERS.

    I WILL ENDGAME YOU.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)16:35:53 No.2159694
    Learn the drums. Join a band. Presuming you're chubby or fat of course. Fatsos on drums looks kickass and you'll meet lots of people in the hipster/underground scene, just ignore the urge to vomit as the hipsters circlejerk while boasting about their "originality" and you'll soon grow used to the taste.
    >> Anonymous 04/18/12(Wed)16:39:01 No.2159704
    You'll realize that real life is mundane and generally not worth the effort

    Then you'll go back to videogames


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